Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-16 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:08:19 + Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com
wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:06:28PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
  What's wrong with having it build on the pointyhat cluster for those
  which build a package and to make it an option for those which build
  the port?
 
 Surely we want the pointyhat package to be the same as the default
 package that the port itself would build?

I think we already have ports which have a different default when build
on the cluster.

In general I agree that we should have the same defaults. My intention
was that the manual is build by default and the user had to disable
it (this is IMO an userfriendly setting, only power-users care really
about what is installed, and those should have the knowledge to
disable the build of the manual in the options).

Bye,
Alexander.
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:06:28PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
 What's wrong with having it build on the pointyhat cluster for those
 which build a package and to make it an option for those which build
 the port?

Surely we want the pointyhat package to be the same as the default
package that the port itself would build?

mcl
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-14 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:22:26 -0800 Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org
wrote:

 On 12/13/2010 08:06, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

  What's wrong with having it build on the pointyhat cluster for those
  which build a package and to make it an option for those which build
  the port?
 
 I think some ports have split the docs into their own port, e.g.,
 gimp. Is that a reasonable approach here?

It depends on how much time you want to spend to seperate the docs
build from the source build respectively to write some FreeBSD
Makefile-Fu to run configure and just build and install the docs.

Making the manual build (and corresponding build depends) optional is
easy.

Bye,
Alexander.
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-13 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:23:51 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org
wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:54:31 +0100
 Paweł Pękala c...@o2.pl wrote:

  docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
  dependencies correctly set.
 
 Yes, but we don't want them ;)

*Some* people do not want them, so it should be configurable (with the
default for at least the official package build cluster to be enabled).

Bye,
Alexander.
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-13 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:31:25 +0100
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:23:51 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu
 ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:54:31 +0100
  Paweł Pękala c...@o2.pl wrote:
 
   docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
   dependencies correctly set.
  
  Yes, but we don't want them ;)
 
 *Some* people do not want them, so it should be configurable (with the
 default for at least the official package build cluster to be
 enabled).

Can't we just fetch the file as DSITFILES from somewhere?


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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-13 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:12:39 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org
wrote:

 On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:31:25 +0100
 Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net wrote:
 
  On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:23:51 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu
  ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
  
   On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:54:31 +0100
   Paweł Pękala c...@o2.pl wrote:
  
docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
dependencies correctly set.
   
   Yes, but we don't want them ;)
  
  *Some* people do not want them, so it should be configurable (with
  the default for at least the official package build cluster to be
  enabled).
 
 Can't we just fetch the file as DSITFILES from somewhere?

Do you want to invest time to build the port + manual, make the manual
available somewhere, and modify the port each time to fetch it?

What's wrong with having it build on the pointyhat cluster for those
which build a package and to make it an option for those which build
the port?

Bye,
Alexander.
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-13 Thread Doug Barton

On 12/13/2010 08:06, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:12:39 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcuite...@freebsd.org
wrote:


On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:31:25 +0100
Alexander Leidingeralexan...@leidinger.net  wrote:


On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:23:51 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu
ite...@freebsd.org  wrote:


On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:54:31 +0100
Paweł Pękalac...@o2.pl  wrote:



docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
dependencies correctly set.


Yes, but we don't want them ;)


*Some* people do not want them, so it should be configurable (with
the default for at least the official package build cluster to be
enabled).


Can't we just fetch the file as DSITFILES from somewhere?


Do you want to invest time to build the port + manual, make the manual
available somewhere, and modify the port each time to fetch it?

What's wrong with having it build on the pointyhat cluster for those
which build a package and to make it an option for those which build
the port?


I think some ports have split the docs into their own port, e.g., gimp. 
Is that a reasonable approach here? The fact that a lot of the gnome 
stuff A) makes docs by default, B) with no option to turn it off, which 
C) pulls in a ton of docbook and other deps; is not something I'm fond 
of, and would prefer to not see repeated elsewhere. :)



Doug

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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-13 Thread Charlie Kester

On Mon 13 Dec 2010 at 11:22:26 PST Doug Barton wrote:


I think some ports have split the docs into their own port, e.g., 
gimp. Is that a reasonable approach here? The fact that a lot of the 
gnome stuff A) makes docs by default, B) with no option to turn it 
off, which C) pulls in a ton of docbook and other deps; is not 
something I'm fond of, and would prefer to not see repeated 
elsewhere. :)


Are the upstream authors resisting the idea of including pre-built docs
in their tarballs?

Is it that they're making some system-dependent tweaks at install time?
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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-12 Thread Paweł Pękala
Dnia 2010-12-11, o godz. 21:26:24
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net napisał(a):


Pawel/Martin, yes, I would like to use the --disable-manual part
(building the manual by default) to offer the possibility to not have
that much dependencies (build depends).

Pawel, Claws-Mail 3.7.7 was not building the pdf part of the docs for
me. Did it for you? If yes, we have a missing build depends for the
manual...

There was change in pdf building requirements:

2010-12-03 [paul]   3.7.7cvs11

* configure.ac
* manual/xml2pdf ** REMOVED **
* manual/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
* manual/es/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
* manual/fr/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
* manual/pl/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
simplify check for tools needed for manual building,
remove xml2pdf and use docbook2pdf instead

docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
dependencies correctly set.

Pawel, are you interested to take over maintainership of CM itself?

I can take over.

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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-12 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:54:31 +0100
Paweł Pękala c...@o2.pl wrote:

 Dnia 2010-12-11, o godz. 21:26:24
 Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net napisał(a):
 
 
 Pawel/Martin, yes, I would like to use the --disable-manual part
 (building the manual by default) to offer the possibility to not have
 that much dependencies (build depends).
 
 Pawel, Claws-Mail 3.7.7 was not building the pdf part of the docs for
 me. Did it for you? If yes, we have a missing build depends for the
 manual...
 
 There was change in pdf building requirements:
 
 2010-12-03 [paul]   3.7.7cvs11
 
 * configure.ac
 * manual/xml2pdf ** REMOVED **
 * manual/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
 * manual/es/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
 * manual/fr/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
 * manual/pl/dist/pdf/Makefile.am
 simplify check for tools needed for manual building,
 remove xml2pdf and use docbook2pdf instead
 
 docbook2pdf is part of textproc/docbook-utils so now we have all
 dependencies correctly set.

Yes, but we don't want them ;)

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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-11 Thread wen heping
2010/12/11 Jerry freebsd-ports.u...@seibercom.net:
 There is a PR - Number: 152870 waiting to be committed. It fixes

I will take it next week if no other committer take it.

wen


 a nasty bug in how claws-mail reacts with external scripts. Is it
 possible for this port to be committed?

 Thanks!

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Re: Updating Claws-Mail

2010-12-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:52:13 +0800 wen heping wenhep...@gmail.com
wrote:


 2010/12/11 Jerry freebsd-ports.u...@seibercom.net:
  There is a PR - Number: 152870 waiting to be committed. It fixes
 
 I will take it next week if no other committer take it.

miwi took it already (on the 8th). What surprises me is that the
auto-assigner didn't assign it to me initially. And it seems the
mail-CC to me didn't arrive here (or I totally overlooked it and even
deleted it somwhow).

Pawel/Martin, yes, I would like to use the --disable-manual part
(building the manual by default) to offer the possibility to not have
that much dependencies (build depends).

Pawel, Claws-Mail 3.7.7 was not building the pdf part of the docs for
me. Did it for you? If yes, we have a missing build depends for the
manual...

Pawel, are you interested to take over maintainership of CM itself?

Martin, what is your ETA for this? I have a lot of time next week.

Bye,
Alexander.

 wen
 
 
  a nasty bug in how claws-mail reacts with external scripts. Is it
  possible for this port to be committed?
 
  Thanks!
 
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