Re: Why are you NOT using FreeBSD -- an example and a solution
Hi, On 13 June 2012 0:20:16 Jason Hellenthal wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:53:04AM +0700, Erich wrote: Hi, Hi, Do we really need another one of these pointless rambling threads... if it helps to keep newcomers with FreeBSD. I placed FreeBSD 10 on an empty disk and downloaded then the ports tree from yesterday. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU Read the FAQ ? The problem has not much to do with X. Installation of Joe. Joe is always the first port I install as I am used to its commands. I then download and compile other ports. As I am currently on a low-bandwidth Internet connection, I try to keep the machine busy during the night with large downloads. Irrelevant It is as I only get errors like this when I install Joe first. Parallel downloading and compilation of scribus and xorg-server How can we help newcomers to avoid this kind of problems? By contributing to PRs and the correct mailing list with solutions, outcomes, patches etc... I am one step further now. As I am getting errors like this very often since I use this method of installing ports I thought that there must be something basic what I am doing wrong. The cause of the problem happens much earlier. I used PCBSD to get FreeBSD onto the disk and did then a source upgrade. This went fine. But PCBSD installed many ports. I assumed now that after deleting them with 'pkg_delete -a' there are all gone and installation can start. Of course, pkg_delete brings some error messages that it could not delete this or that as the package list is wrong. After getting the errors mentioned here, I used to run 'make deinstall' in the affected port. This solved the problem. I wonder now what the difference between pkg_delete and make deinstall is. As I mentioned before, I am getting these errors randomly since around 2007. I obviously never used make deinstall then. I will go back now to the FreeBSD ports installation. Part of it made it to this thread under a wrong subject line but its a start... Erich ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why are you NOT using FreeBSD -- an example and a solution
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: Hi, On 13 June 2012 0:20:16 Jason Hellenthal wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:53:04AM +0700, Erich wrote: Hi, Hi, Do we really need another one of these pointless rambling threads... if it helps to keep newcomers with FreeBSD. I placed FreeBSD 10 on an empty disk and downloaded then the ports tree from yesterday. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU Read the FAQ ? The problem has not much to do with X. Installation of Joe. Joe is always the first port I install as I am used to its commands. I then download and compile other ports. As I am currently on a low-bandwidth Internet connection, I try to keep the machine busy during the night with large downloads. Irrelevant It is as I only get errors like this when I install Joe first. Parallel downloading and compilation of scribus and xorg-server How can we help newcomers to avoid this kind of problems? By contributing to PRs and the correct mailing list with solutions, outcomes, patches etc... I am one step further now. As I am getting errors like this very often since I use this method of installing ports I thought that there must be something basic what I am doing wrong. The cause of the problem happens much earlier. I used PCBSD to get FreeBSD onto the disk and did then a source upgrade. This went fine. But PCBSD installed many ports. I assumed now that after deleting them with 'pkg_delete -a' there are all gone and installation can start. Of course, pkg_delete brings some error messages that it could not delete this or that as the package list is wrong. After getting the errors mentioned here, I used to run 'make deinstall' in the affected port. This solved the problem. I wonder now what the difference between pkg_delete and make deinstall is. As I mentioned before, I am getting these errors randomly since around 2007. I obviously never used make deinstall then. I will go back now to the FreeBSD ports installation. Part of it made it to this thread under a wrong subject line but its a start... I strongly recommend that you install ports-mgmt/portmaster (if you have not done so) and read the man page (YES! You really need to read it all!) and note the example for re-installing all ports. It will assure that all ports are cleanly re-installed. I do admit that I don't delete /usr/local/*, but I do get rid of most everything in it like bin, lib, include (especially important), libexec, libdata, info, modules, man, and so on. (Almost abbreviated and so on to etc which would have triggered much hilarity and some keyboard smashing!) I never install anything of my own in /usr/local, but use /usr/opt for that. If you do it as suggested, you should end up with a very clean, updated system. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why are you NOT using FreeBSD -- an example and a solution
Hi, On 13 June 2012 17:21:30 Kevin Oberman wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: On 13 June 2012 0:20:16 Jason Hellenthal wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:53:04AM +0700, Erich wrote: I strongly recommend that you install ports-mgmt/portmaster (if you I use portupgrade for upgrades. It should lead to the same result. have not done so) and read the man page (YES! You really need to read it all!) and note the example for re-installing all ports. It will assure that all ports are cleanly re-installed. I do admit that I don't delete /usr/local/*, but I do get rid of most everything in it like bin, lib, include (especially important), libexec, libdata, info, modules, man, and so on. (Almost abbreviated and so on to etc which would have triggered much hilarity and some keyboard smashing!) I never install anything of my own in /usr/local, but use /usr/opt for that. I never did this. It is a good idea as it really cleans the system and you have your own stuff outside the third-party stuff. If you do it as suggested, you should end up with a very clean, updated system. I did not want to upgrade it. I just wanted a fast solution to have FreeBSD running and than start from scratch. This starting from real scratch did not work. It seems that your solution would also solved the problem. I never thought of this. Erich ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
