Re: email addresses and spam
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:11:40PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Ian Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Why MUST that be made sure? And more importantly: why does this conversation have to take place on this list. I signed up to this list because I maintain a few ports, and things relevant to that maintainership might pop up here. I most certainly did not sign up to let my inbox get filled with threads started by a message that should have gone to the list owner instead of the list itself. Best, Koen -- K.F.J. Martens, Sonologic, http://www.sonologic.nl/ Networking, hosting, embedded systems, unix, artificial intelligence. Public PGP key: http://www.metro.cx/pubkey-gmc.asc pgph5ZNh4a0Md.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: email addresses and spam
On Fri, 25 May 2007, Koen Martens wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:11:40PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Ian Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Why MUST that be made sure? And more importantly: why does this conversation have to take place on this list. I signed up to this list because I maintain a few ports, and things relevant to that maintainership might pop up here. I most certainly did not sign up to let my inbox get filled with threads started by a message that should have gone to the list owner instead of the list itself. indeed. this is spam about spam. oops. i am spamming about spamming about spam now. Best, Koen -- K.F.J. Martens, Sonologic, http://www.sonologic.nl/ Networking, hosting, embedded systems, unix, artificial intelligence. Public PGP key: http://www.metro.cx/pubkey-gmc.asc *--* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *--* ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email addresses and spam
All right, who released my email address to spammers? I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Now I have to blacklist this address. Sheesh. Reply-To: Duke Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Duke Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US) AppleWebKit/103u (KHTML, like Gecko) Safa$ X-Accept-Language: en-us To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Sir/Madam, My name is KELVIN JOOP . I am the sale manegar of DUKE COLE TEXTILES AND FABRICS COMPANY IN THE UK Presently, our company is looking for a trustworthy bookkeeper, representative in Canada/USA. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email addresses and spam
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:02:39PM -0700, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: All right, who released my email address to spammers? The mailing lists are public and mirrored all over the world. It's too late for that address, sorry. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email addresses and spam
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:02:39PM -0700, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: All right, who released my email address to spammers? I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Now I have to blacklist this address. Sheesh. When you post to a public mailing list you should accept that your address will be made public. The archives of this list are available on freebsd.org and many other sites. Those archives can easily be found by anything crawling the web. Tim. Reply-To: Duke Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Duke Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US) AppleWebKit/103u (KHTML, like Gecko) Safa$ X-Accept-Language: en-us To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Sir/Madam, My name is KELVIN JOOP . I am the sale manegar of DUKE COLE TEXTILES AND FABRICS COMPANY IN THE UK Presently, our company is looking for a trustworthy bookkeeper, representative in Canada/USA. -- Tim Bishop http://www.bishnet.net/tim/ PGP Key: 0x5AE7D984 ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email addresses and spam
On May 24, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: All right, who released my email address to spammers? Nobody. Spammers routinely search for email addresses by scraping Google, websites, mailing list archives, and even word-list dictionaries or random number generators. I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Now I have to blacklist this address. Sheesh. Welcome to the Internet, as (presumably!) you are new here. The FreeBSD postmaster already spends a lot of resources to try to keep these mailing lists (mostly) spam-free, but there's nothing that we can do to prevent a spammer from sending email to you after you've chosen to make your email address available by sending mail to a public list, and this is going to be true of other mailing lists elsewhere, web forums, Usenet, and so forth. Most people deal with spam by setting up some combination of MTA checking, greylisting, and spam-filtering via Amavis/SpamAssassin/ dspam/ClamAV/etc rather than creating new email addresses, but you can do as you see fit. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email addresses and spam
On 2007-May-24 12:02:39 -0700, Walter Ian Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All right, who released my email address to spammers? My guess is that you did. I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Now I have to blacklist this address. Sheesh. I'm not sure where you have been living all your life but junk mail is a part of being on the internet. I think you need to change your attitude or you'll be winding up in lots of blacklists. Anyone can subscribe to most of the FreeBSD mailing lists. Once they have subscribed, they will receive copies of all the traffic on the list - this includes whatever addresses posters have included in their messages. The project can't accept responsibility for what list subscribers so with the information they receive. It is up to you to protect your e-mail using whatever anti-spam measures you like. -- Peter Jeremy pgpup2kKHRa1W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: email addresses and spam
Walter Ian Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All right, who released my email address to spammers? This is a publicly available list (see lists.freebsd.org), so its likely they grab the mail from it directly (or even read this list as well). I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Why MUST that be made sure? Regards Marcus ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: email addresses and spam
At 12:20 p -0700 05/24/2007, Chuck Swiger didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: On May 24, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: All right, who released my email address to spammers? Nobody. Spammers routinely search for email addresses by scraping Google, websites, mailing list archives, and even word-list dictionaries or random number generators. I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 2 weeks later I get spam. That is not cool, people. You MUST make sure that never happens. Now I have to blacklist this address. Sheesh. Welcome to the Internet, as (presumably!) you are new here. Hardly new. Been here for 15 years. The FreeBSD postmaster already spends a lot of resources to try to keep these mailing lists (mostly) spam-free, but there's nothing that we can do to prevent a spammer from sending email to you after you've chosen to make your email address available by sending mail to a public list, and this is going to be true of other mailing lists elsewhere, web forums, Usenet, and so forth. I had NO idea this was a public list. I THOUGHT it was a private distribution to the ports people. Now you (all) understand my surprise. Most people deal with spam by setting up some combination of MTA checking, greylisting, and spam-filtering via Amavis/SpamAssassin/ dspam/ClamAV/etc rather than creating new email addresses, but you can do as you see fit. I do both. In fact, I wrote my own spam filter in Perl, and it deletes 95% of the email which arrives, catching 99% of the spam. I had *whitelisted* this special recipient address to ensure I got the mail I wanted, but now I see I cannot keep it whitelisted, or else it will be whitelisting spam as well. :/ Perhaps I can conditionally whitelist it if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is one of the recipients. Maybe that's the best setup. So now that everything's clear (I hope), let's put this thread to rest. Thank you. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
