Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 2020-03-28 01:44, Yuri wrote: On 2020-03-22 03:50, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-03-21 19:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día sábado, marzo 21, 2020 a las 07:49:23p. m. +0100, Hans Petter Selasky escribió: On 2020-03-21 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi ports@ Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ? Hi, I made a liveshow recently using the following ports: virtual_oss, webcamd, baresip, zynaddsubfx, midipp and obs-studio . Worked great and I have some patches to improve support under FreeBSD. Might be an idea for coming BSD conferences ! Is this somewhere recorded to get an idea? Thanks Currently I have two videos at my facebook page (You need to add me as a friend): https://www.facebook.com/hanspetter.selasky The second one is better than the first one :-) Found some bugs with JACK input and had to configure use of ALSA manually in the port. From a user's standpoint it would be best if this configuration was represented as a meta-port that would install all required dependencies and a sample configuration, and would provide instructions on how to configure/use it in pkg-message. Is it possible to create such a meta-port? I need to push some patches upstream first to obs-studio. --HPS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 2020-03-22 03:50, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On 2020-03-21 19:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día sábado, marzo 21, 2020 a las 07:49:23p. m. +0100, Hans Petter Selasky escribió: On 2020-03-21 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi ports@ Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ? Hi, I made a liveshow recently using the following ports: virtual_oss, webcamd, baresip, zynaddsubfx, midipp and obs-studio . Worked great and I have some patches to improve support under FreeBSD. Might be an idea for coming BSD conferences ! Is this somewhere recorded to get an idea? Thanks Currently I have two videos at my facebook page (You need to add me as a friend): https://www.facebook.com/hanspetter.selasky The second one is better than the first one :-) Found some bugs with JACK input and had to configure use of ALSA manually in the port. From a user's standpoint it would be best if this configuration was represented as a meta-port that would install all required dependencies and a sample configuration, and would provide instructions on how to configure/use it in pkg-message. Is it possible to create such a meta-port? Yuri ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 00:14:01 +1100 Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 24/03/2020 9:31 pm, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 04:38:11PM +, Bob Eager wrote: > >> People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the > >> port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new > >> though and there was no time to update it). > >> > > The port is about a previous thing from jitsi (a SIP client) when > > people speak about Jitsi c'est speak about https://meet.jit.si aka > > https://jitsi.org/ > > > > The video bridge is in java and the frontend is in javascript with > > desktop apps iirc for those who do not want to use a browser. Note > > that on freebsd desktops it works well in firefox browser. > > > > No login required, no decidated required it just works fine. > > > > There is no port yet of the server part on freebsd but should not > > be hard to do as it is fully opensource. > > Working on it already > Please let me know if you make progress/need help testing. -m -- Michael Gmelin ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
Vincent DEFERT wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry to arrive late, I just see this post now. > > If your install videoconferencing software on your machine, you have no > guarantee your contacts will be able to use the same, or that they'll > know how to install it, or even that they'll be allowed to install > anything on their PC. Initial post of thread made clear : _Servers_ > Message-id: <202003211607.02lg6urk015...@fire.js.berklix.net> > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:06:56 +0100 > Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ? . ^^ > That needs servers. .^^^ > What about bandwidth per user, dont want to impact server hosts .^^ > A much easier solution is to use a server based software. > > You can use a Jitsi-derived solution - a public server is available at > https://meet.jit.si/. > No account creation needed, no administration, just share a URL and > you're done. > > You can also deploy this solution on one of your servers, it's open source. Thanks Yes, Jitsi already mentioned on thread. > Another similar solution is BigBlueButton. Thanks, I found: https://bigbluebutton.org/ https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BigBlueButton > I'm using it to give trainings, it is simple and efficient. > I use it in conjunction with a VM served through Apache Guacamole for > the labs. > > The thing is: your contacts don't need to install anything on their > machines (= you don't have to do troubleshooting over the phone), all > they need is an HTML5 capable browser. > > And unlike Skype, the quality of sound and video is good and you don't > have to register at Microsoft. > > Be it meet.jit.si or BigBlueButton, no ports are available yet, but the I wrote earlier: The jitsi port make install & packages run OK, Ive not tried runnning it. > need for such solutions hasn't been so pressing before. ;) A friend who uses video conferencing for work says some commercial servers are overloading. Good if more of us with servers can support conferencing. I'm making notes here: http://berklix.org/~jhs/txt/meetings_sw.html Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ UK stole 750,000 votes from EU Brits: http://stolenvotes.uk http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300059 http://berklix.uk/brexit/#russia Limit Corona: http://berklix.eu/jhs/std/no_bugs.txt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 3/24/20 11:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 04:38:11PM +, Bob Eager wrote: People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though and there was no time to update it). The port is about a previous thing from jitsi (a SIP client) when people speak about Jitsi c'est speak about https://meet.jit.si aka https://jitsi.org/ The video bridge is in java and the frontend is in javascript with desktop apps iirc for those who do not want to use a browser. Note that on freebsd desktops it works well in firefox browser. No login required, no decidated required it just works fine. Is screen sharing working for you? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 24/03/2020 9:31 pm, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 04:38:11PM +, Bob Eager wrote: People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though and there was no time to update it). The port is about a previous thing from jitsi (a SIP client) when people speak about Jitsi c'est speak about https://meet.jit.si aka https://jitsi.org/ The video bridge is in java and the frontend is in javascript with desktop apps iirc for those who do not want to use a browser. Note that on freebsd desktops it works well in firefox browser. No login required, no decidated required it just works fine. There is no port yet of the server part on freebsd but should not be hard to do as it is fully opensource. Working on it already Best regards, Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 04:38:11PM +, Bob Eager wrote: > People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the > port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though > and there was no time to update it). > The port is about a previous thing from jitsi (a SIP client) when people speak about Jitsi c'est speak about https://meet.jit.si aka https://jitsi.org/ The video bridge is in java and the frontend is in javascript with desktop apps iirc for those who do not want to use a browser. Note that on freebsd desktops it works well in firefox browser. No login required, no decidated required it just works fine. There is no port yet of the server part on freebsd but should not be hard to do as it is fully opensource. Best regards, Bapt signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:15:37 +0100, Vincent DEFERT stated: >And unlike Skype, the quality of sound and video is good and you don't >have to register at Microsoft. I don't believe we even have a version of Skype available for FreeBSD in the ports system. If it is, it is probably well out of date. The latest version of Skype is 8.53.0.77 reported by Microsoft. There are several versions made available by Microsoft for Linux and MAC. Perhaps if enough users flooded Microsoft with a request for a FreeBSD version, it might happen. Personally, I love Skype and have had great success with it. I don't know why you are apparently having audio & video problems. Perhaps it is localized to your equipment. -- Carmel pgp5jOx009YR7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
Hi, Sorry to arrive late, I just see this post now. If your install videoconferencing software on your machine, you have no guarantee your contacts will be able to use the same, or that they'll know how to install it, or even that they'll be allowed to install anything on their PC. A much easier solution is to use a server based software. You can use a Jitsi-derived solution - a public server is available at https://meet.jit.si/. No account creation needed, no administration, just share a URL and you're done. You can also deploy this solution on one of your servers, it's open source. Another similar solution is BigBlueButton. I'm using it to give trainings, it is simple and efficient. I use it in conjunction with a VM served through Apache Guacamole for the labs. The thing is: your contacts don't need to install anything on their machines (= you don't have to do troubleshooting over the phone), all they need is an HTML5 capable browser. And unlike Skype, the quality of sound and video is good and you don't have to register at Microsoft. Be it meet.jit.si or BigBlueButton, no ports are available yet, but the need for such solutions hasn't been so pressing before. ;) Vincent ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
Bob Eager wrote: > People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the > port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though > and there was no time to update it). Thanks Bob & others who mailed Jitsi, By chance I too tried a week or so ago & it failed. Just failed again, (after pkg upgrade) with cd /usr/ports/net-im/jitsi ; make on 2 systems with uname -a FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #14410: Sun Mar 15 16:28:46 CET 2020 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE #623: Thu Mar 19 16:41:59 CET 2020 both with ports/ .ctm_status ports-cur 13413 .svn_revision 528938 jitsi-2.10.5550 is marked as broken: fails to start, missing requirement pkg install osgi.native No packages available to install matching 'osgi.native' echo /usr/ports/*/*osgi* # echo: No match. make TRYBROKEN=YES package # Succeeds ! Thanks to all who have replied to this thread so far, I will add more notes here, (as well as repling to ports@) as I work through them: http://berklix.org/~jhs/txt/meetings_sw.html Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ UK stole 750,000 votes from EU Brits: http://stolenvotes.uk http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300059 http://berklix.uk/brexit/#russia Limit Corona: http://berklix.eu/jhs/std/no_bugs.txt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 2020-03-21 19:53, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día sábado, marzo 21, 2020 a las 07:49:23p. m. +0100, Hans Petter Selasky escribió: On 2020-03-21 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi ports@ Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ? Hi, I made a liveshow recently using the following ports: virtual_oss, webcamd, baresip, zynaddsubfx, midipp and obs-studio . Worked great and I have some patches to improve support under FreeBSD. Might be an idea for coming BSD conferences ! Is this somewhere recorded to get an idea? Thanks Currently I have two videos at my facebook page (You need to add me as a friend): https://www.facebook.com/hanspetter.selasky The second one is better than the first one :-) Found some bugs with JACK input and had to configure use of ALSA manually in the port. --HPS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
FWIW, I saw a talk about an early version of this in an ApacheConEU: https://openmeetings.apache.org/ It did look very interesting. Cheers, Pedro. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 22/03/2020 3:06 am, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
Hi ports@
Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ?
As much more of the world goes into lock down & social distancing, ie
not meeting friends at the pub / restuarant etc on Saturday night
etc, BBC has shown some social groups have arranged a matrix of 10
to 20 faces from cameras on each of 10 to 20 screen, so groups can
chat virtualy, & drink localy @ home.
That needs servers. Doubtless there are big commercial firms offering,
but if some of us think it may be interesting adding such software
to our FreeBSD servers for use by friends, Any reccomendations what
to add from ports/ ?
Might it all be in https://www.freebsd.org/ports/multimedia.html
or more likely scattered ? Keywords to search with ?
What about client apps on android, apple & MS
('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
What about bandwidth per user, dont want to impact server hosts.
If most of this has been asked before, an URL to a FAQ would be fine thanks.
Cheers
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Hi Julian,
A few of us are sorting our a couple of test/eval instances of NextCloud
Talk and Riot.IM with Matrix for AV/conferencing for various use-cases
including FreeBSD community oriented stuff.
Feel free to hit us up off-list if you'd like more info or be in that loop
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Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 22:53:12 +0100
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:08 PM Julian H. Stacey
> wrote:
> >
> > What about client apps on android, apple & MS
> > ('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
> >
> IMHO, anything that requires _users_ of a service to download or
> install software on their machines to use a (video) conferencing
> service is too heavy on requirements already.
> People in my circles (both professionally and privately) are using
> Whereby https://whereby.com/ with good results.
> We will see how good it holds up if traffic increases exponentially,
> but for now the service has been flawless.
> So if you are building anything, you should aim for something that
> works as easily as that.
https://jitsi.org/
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Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:08 PM Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>
> What about client apps on android, apple & MS
> ('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
>
IMHO, anything that requires _users_ of a service to download or
install software on their machines to use a (video) conferencing
service is too heavy on requirements already.
People in my circles (both professionally and privately) are using
Whereby https://whereby.com/ with good results.
We will see how good it holds up if traffic increases exponentially,
but for now the service has been flawless.
So if you are building anything, you should aim for something that
works as easily as that.
HTH,
--
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Torfinn Ingolfsen
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Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
El día sábado, marzo 21, 2020 a las 07:49:23p. m. +0100, Hans Petter Selasky escribió: > On 2020-03-21 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi ports@ > > Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software > > ? > > > > Hi, > > I made a liveshow recently using the following ports: > > virtual_oss, webcamd, baresip, zynaddsubfx, midipp and obs-studio . > > Worked great and I have some patches to improve support under FreeBSD. > Might be an idea for coming BSD conferences ! Is this somewhere recorded to get an idea? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On 2020-03-21 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi ports@ Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ? Hi, I made a liveshow recently using the following ports: virtual_oss, webcamd, baresip, zynaddsubfx, midipp and obs-studio . Worked great and I have some patches to improve support under FreeBSD. Might be an idea for coming BSD conferences ! --HPS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
El día sábado, marzo 21, 2020 a las 04:38:11p. m. +, Bob Eager escribió: > People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the > port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though > and there was no time to update it). What about news/nn? Ay, how I do miss the times of USENET! For example: comp.unix.unixware.misc alt.usage.spanish comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc muc.lists.freebsd.hackers es.humanidades.gramatica es.charla.gastronomia https://alt.usage.spanish.narkive.com/m06VpOud/alt-usage-spanish-faq ¡Ay que tiempos han pasado! matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub Deutschland raus aus der NATO! NATO raus aus Deutschland! Frieden mit Russland! Germany out of NATO! NATO out of Germany! Peace with Russia! ¡Alemania fuera de OTAN! ¡OTAN fuera de Alemania! ¡Paz con Rusia! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:38 AM Bob Eager wrote:
>
> People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the
> port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though
> and there was no time to update it).
I second this.
In principle, a sufficiently recent build of Chrome/Chromium browser
might do the trick,
jitsi meet (javascript-based, IMHO) works in it just fine.
>
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:06:56 +0100
> "Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
>
> > Hi ports@
> > Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server
> > software ?
> >
> > As much more of the world goes into lock down & social distancing, ie
> > not meeting friends at the pub / restuarant etc on Saturday night
> > etc, BBC has shown some social groups have arranged a matrix of 10
> > to 20 faces from cameras on each of 10 to 20 screen, so groups can
> > chat virtualy, & drink localy @ home.
> >
> > That needs servers. Doubtless there are big commercial firms offering,
> > but if some of us think it may be interesting adding such software
> > to our FreeBSD servers for use by friends, Any reccomendations what
> > to add from ports/ ?
> >
> > Might it all be in https://www.freebsd.org/ports/multimedia.html
> > or more likely scattered ? Keywords to search with ?
> >
> > What about client apps on android, apple & MS
> > ('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
> >
> > What about bandwidth per user, dont want to impact server hosts.
> >
> > If most of this has been asked before, an URL to a FAQ would be fine
> > thanks.
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux
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> > http://stolenvotes.uk http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300059
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Re: reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
People have been saying good things about jitsi (Java based) bu the
port didn't work on a quick try (my ports tree isn't very new though
and there was no time to update it).
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:06:56 +0100
"Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
> Hi ports@
> Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server
> software ?
>
> As much more of the world goes into lock down & social distancing, ie
> not meeting friends at the pub / restuarant etc on Saturday night
> etc, BBC has shown some social groups have arranged a matrix of 10
> to 20 faces from cameras on each of 10 to 20 screen, so groups can
> chat virtualy, & drink localy @ home.
>
> That needs servers. Doubtless there are big commercial firms offering,
> but if some of us think it may be interesting adding such software
> to our FreeBSD servers for use by friends, Any reccomendations what
> to add from ports/ ?
>
> Might it all be in https://www.freebsd.org/ports/multimedia.html
> or more likely scattered ? Keywords to search with ?
>
> What about client apps on android, apple & MS
> ('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
>
> What about bandwidth per user, dont want to impact server hosts.
>
> If most of this has been asked before, an URL to a FAQ would be fine
> thanks.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux
> http://berklix.com/jhs/ UK stole 750,000 votes from EU Brits:
> http://stolenvotes.uk http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300059
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> http://berklix.eu/jhs/std/no_bugs.txt
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reccomendations of conference / party audio video software ?
Hi ports@
Any reccomendations of conference / social group party chat server software ?
As much more of the world goes into lock down & social distancing, ie
not meeting friends at the pub / restuarant etc on Saturday night
etc, BBC has shown some social groups have arranged a matrix of 10
to 20 faces from cameras on each of 10 to 20 screen, so groups can
chat virtualy, & drink localy @ home.
That needs servers. Doubtless there are big commercial firms offering,
but if some of us think it may be interesting adding such software
to our FreeBSD servers for use by friends, Any reccomendations what
to add from ports/ ?
Might it all be in https://www.freebsd.org/ports/multimedia.html
or more likely scattered ? Keywords to search with ?
What about client apps on android, apple & MS
('cos most friends are non tech & dont run BSD or Linux PCs etc)
What about bandwidth per user, dont want to impact server hosts.
If most of this has been asked before, an URL to a FAQ would be fine thanks.
Cheers
--
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