Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-04 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

On 03.01.2012 22:32, Greg Larkin wrote:

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On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

Hi Porters!

I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
Committers a public service to test their new ports
or ports patches during development or before
submitting a ports PR.


[...]

Wow!  Stellar job, Bernhard, and I'm looking forward to using
redports.org for fixing ports that are broken under clang.


Hope you don't want to do that today because during the night the
current building machine paniced and needs someone power cycling
it. I will do this in the evening so no builds today :(

It looks like I could get some hardware from portmgr so
hopefully more hardware and redundancy is available soon.


I noticed one minor typo on https://redports.org/buildgroups:
automaticaly - automatically


Thanks, it's fixed now!

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-04 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

On 02.01.2012 23:32, Doug Barton wrote:

Is there such a thing as a redports mailing list?


I neither have the infrastructure nor the time to
setup and maintain my own list so I created one on
Google Groups:

redpo...@googlegroups.com
https://groups.google.com/group/redports

IRC was easy:
#redports on Freenode
irc://irc.freenode.net#redports

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 1/4/12 3:07 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 On 03.01.2012 22:32, Greg Larkin wrote:
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 On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 Hi Porters!

 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
 redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
 2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
 Committers a public service to test their new ports
 or ports patches during development or before
 submitting a ports PR.

 [...]

 Wow!  Stellar job, Bernhard, and I'm looking forward to using
 redports.org for fixing ports that are broken under clang.
 
 Hope you don't want to do that today because during the night the
 current building machine paniced and needs someone power cycling
 it. I will do this in the evening so no builds today :(
 
 It looks like I could get some hardware from portmgr so
 hopefully more hardware and redundancy is available soon.
 
 I noticed one minor typo on https://redports.org/buildgroups:
 automaticaly - automatically
 
 Thanks, it's fixed now!
 

Hi again Bernhard,

It looks like ports are building fine now.  As I was building the first
port on your system, I thought of an enhancement, and I am interested to
know how difficult it would be to implement.

I maintain various p5- and py- ports, and I often want to test them
under multiple versions of Perl and Python, in case there are
conditional behaviors in the Makefile.

Assuming you're not planning on allowing users to create their own
builds, what about adding the ability to set build variables in a
make.conf file?  For instance, if I commit etc/make.conf to my personal
repository location, redports would overlay my options before starting
the build.  Then I could do things like force Python version 2.7, Perl
version 5.10, etc.

What do you think?

Thank you,
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-04 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

On 04.01.2012 19:21, Greg Larkin wrote:

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On 1/4/12 3:07 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

On 03.01.2012 22:32, Greg Larkin wrote:

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On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

Hi Porters!

I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
Committers a public service to test their new ports
or ports patches during development or before
submitting a ports PR.


[...]

Wow!  Stellar job, Bernhard, and I'm looking forward to using
redports.org for fixing ports that are broken under clang.


Hope you don't want to do that today because during the night the
current building machine paniced and needs someone power cycling
it. I will do this in the evening so no builds today :(

It looks like I could get some hardware from portmgr so
hopefully more hardware and redundancy is available soon.


I noticed one minor typo on https://redports.org/buildgroups:
automaticaly - automatically


Thanks, it's fixed now!



Hi again Bernhard,

It looks like ports are building fine now.  As I was building the 
first
port on your system, I thought of an enhancement, and I am interested 
to

know how difficult it would be to implement.

I maintain various p5- and py- ports, and I often want to test them
under multiple versions of Perl and Python, in case there are
conditional behaviors in the Makefile.

Assuming you're not planning on allowing users to create their own
builds, what about adding the ability to set build variables in a
make.conf file?  For instance, if I commit etc/make.conf to my 
personal
repository location, redports would overlay my options before 
starting
the build.  Then I could do things like force Python version 2.7, 
Perl

version 5.10, etc.

What do you think?


That sounds a lot like OPTIONS support. Tinderbox is already able to do
that so the only thing I need to solve are that it has to work in a 
shared
environment. That means it will have to build all dependencies from 
scratch
all the time because there are too many combinations and we don't 
really

support mixing and matching weird combinations of slave ports (though
everybody does it). Then add some user interface to enter contents of
make.conf.

OPTIONS support is already on my todo since the very beginning but I 
have

no idea on when I will be able to work on that.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 01/04/2012 06:00, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 On 02.01.2012 23:32, Doug Barton wrote:
 Is there such a thing as a redports mailing list?
 
 I neither have the infrastructure nor the time to
 setup and maintain my own list so I created one on
 Google Groups:
 
 redpo...@googlegroups.com
 https://groups.google.com/group/redports
 
 IRC was easy:
 #redports on Freenode
 irc://irc.freenode.net#redports

That's awesome! Perhaps now the discussion about redports can start
migrating to that group?


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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-03 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

On 02.01.2012 23:32, Doug Barton wrote:

Is there such a thing as a redports mailing list?


No, currently not. There is no mail infrastructure for redports
yet. If people want such a list or an IRC channel I could certainly
do it but it's not high priority for me right now.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-03 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 Hi Porters!
 
 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
 redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
 2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
 Committers a public service to test their new ports
 or ports patches during development or before
 submitting a ports PR.
 
[...]

Wow!  Stellar job, Bernhard, and I'm looking forward to using
redports.org for fixing ports that are broken under clang.

I noticed one minor typo on https://redports.org/buildgroups:
automaticaly - automatically

Cheers,
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-02 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

On 01.01.2012 21:03, Vitaly Magerya wrote:

Hi again. I've got this issue: an update to one port depends on an
update to another one, and I'd like to test both before submitting.
So the question is this: if I've got both ports in the repository,
when rebuilding the dependent port, will redports use the dependency
from official ports tree, or from my repository?


Redports will use your whole repository as an overlay to the original
ports tree but it also caches already build packages based on
PKGVERSION. So if you have a port in your tree which is different
from the original port then you should take care that you bump
PORTREVISION or PORTVERSION/DISTVERSION.

To do what you want just commit both ports to your tree and trigger
a build of the slave port. You can verify that everything was as
expected by looking at the buildlog where you can see which packages
in which versions were used as dependency.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-02 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 12:44:58 +0100, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 Hi Porters!
 
 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
 redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
 2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
 Committers a public service to test their new ports
 or ports patches during development or before
 submitting a ports PR.
 
 Many people test ports only on their own machine
 because of lack of hardware. Redports gives you
 instant access to build environments for FreeBSD 7.4,
 8.2, 9-CURRENT, 10-CURRENT on i386 and amd64 and even
 special ones that use CLANG/LLVM or GCC 4.5 as ports
 compiler.
 
 For everyone familiar with FreeBSD Ports Tinderbox [1]
 it's pretty obvious how it works. In fact redports is
 build on top of multiple Tinderboxes so it is
 scalable, fast and reliable. With your account you get
 your own Subversion Repository to maintain your ports
 and with every commit to the repository all affected
 ports are automatically built.
 
 When registering an account please read the UserGuide
 [2] first to get an idea of how to work with it.
 Feedback and new Ideas are welcome!
 
 
 Best regards,
 Bernhard Fröhlich (decke@)
 
 [1] http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/
 [2] http://redports.org/wiki/UserGuide

This is awesome, thanks!

Uli
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-02 Thread Doug Barton
Is there such a thing as a redports mailing list?



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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-01 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Sa., 31. Dez. 2011 23:26:14 CET, Vitaly Magerya vmage...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bernhard, is there a time limit on build execution, or some other kind
 of hang prevention?

Yes, there is some limit in tinderbox but I think it's somewhere around 24 
hours.

 My port (lang/stklos) has a known problem with hanging on 9.x, and
 it's already been building for 90 minutes (normally it takes one)...
 So, if you'll read this message before it is finished, please just
 kill it.
 
 This brings me to a feature request: being able to abort your own
 builds before they are finished.

This should be possible so I've added it to the todo list for the upcoming 
versions.
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2012-01-01 Thread Vitaly Magerya
Hi again. I've got this issue: an update to one port depends on an
update to another one, and I'd like to test both before submitting.
So the question is this: if I've got both ports in the repository,
when rebuilding the dependent port, will redports use the dependency
from official ports tree, or from my repository?
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-31 Thread Vitaly Magerya
Bernhard, is there a time limit on build execution, or some other kind
of hang prevention?

My port (lang/stklos) has a known problem with hanging on 9.x, and
it's already been building for 90 minutes (normally it takes one)...
So, if you'll read this message before it is finished, please just
kill it.

This brings me to a feature request: being able to abort your own
builds before they are finished.
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-30 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Do., 29. Dez. 2011 19:13:46 CET, Stephen Montgomery-Smith 
step...@missouri.edu wrote:

 I am trying this out.   Looking at the instructions on 
 https://redports.org/wiki/UserGuide:
 
 
 svn co https://svn.redports.org/yourusername
 mkdir www
 cp -pr /usr/ports/www/phpvirtualbox www/
 svn add www
 svn commit -m phpvirtualbox added
 
 shouldn't there be a second line cd yourusername or something like
 that?

Yes, thanks for spotting that! It's fixed now.
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-30 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Do., 29. Dez. 2011 17:55:06 CET, Marin Atanasov Nikolov dna...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Frank Laszlo fr...@franksworld.org
 wrote:
  On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
   
   Hi Porters!
   
   I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
   reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
   by everybody!
  
  
  FYI, I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error when loading the page.
  
 
 Me too :(
 
 BTW, has anyone considered evaluating Jenkins [1] for doing the same
 thing?
 
 Jenkins is quite interesting IMO, and is worth testing it out :)
 
 [1] http://jenkins-ci.org/
 
 Regards,
 Marin

I spend a few months planning and researching how to best implement the idea in 
a way that fits into the FreeBSD ecosystem. Throwing that all away and using a 
java based finished product will take a lot more time to only reimplement the 
status quo.

Redports has been designed with care to heavily use Tinderbox and ZFS for 
actual building and only reimplement what is really needed. The result is 
easily extendable and written in C, shell and python for the Trac plugin.

http://svn.bluelife.at/index.cgi/redports/browse/trunk
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Vitaly Magerya
Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
 Hi Porters!
 
 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody!

First of all, this is pretty great.

Next, questions, comments  feature requests.

1. It would be good to see what is currently in the queue for each
backend (or buildgroup) right now; just to get an estimation of when
your build will finish (e.g. in a few minutes vs. in a month). An
actual estimation would be even better.

2. GCC 4.5 buildgroup currently shows 0 queued builds, but for some
reason my build in that buildgroup does not start. Is there really
nothing queued there?

3. On My builds page I see two strange builds in waiting state: one
for buildgroup GCC another for 4.5; should that be one buidgroup
GCC 4.5?

4. Is each backend a separate physical (or virtual) machine (i.e. do
they all operate independently)? Are more machines planned?

5. Is there a way to see all the build archive, not just yours when you
are logged in?
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Do., 29. Dez. 2011 15:26:12 CET, Vitaly Magerya vmage...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bernhard Froehlich wrote:
  Hi Porters!
  
  I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
  reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
  by everybody!
 
 First of all, this is pretty great.
 
 Next, questions, comments  feature requests.
 
 1. It would be good to see what is currently in the queue for each
 backend (or buildgroup) right now; just to get an estimation of when
 your build will finish (e.g. in a few minutes vs. in a month). An
 actual estimation would be even better.

Showing the buildqueue is easy but making predictions from the list is nearly 
impossible. There is a scheduling algorithm that tries to be fair but it cannot 
do much more than that. 

 2. GCC 4.5 buildgroup currently shows 0 queued builds, but for some
 reason my build in that buildgroup does not start. Is there really
 nothing queued there?

Currently all builds are on the same machine and there is a limit of 2 parallel 
builds for this machine.

 3. On My builds page I see two strange builds in waiting state: one
 for buildgroup GCC another for 4.5; should that be one buidgroup
 GCC 4.5?

Sounds like a bug. I will have a look at that.

 4. Is each backend a separate physical (or virtual) machine (i.e. do
 they all operate independently)? Are more machines planned?

There is currently only one backend machine that is limited to two parallel 
builds. It is a 6 core Phenom II with 16GB Ram so performance is quite decent 
but more hardware will be needed over time. I would also like to get get some 
Tier-2 hardware like powerpc or sparc if there is enough interest. So 
organizing more hardware is on my todo but it will take some time.

 5. Is there a way to see all the build archive, not just yours when you
 are logged in?

No currently not but this is only a cosmetic thing and easy to fix. I've put it 
on my todo.
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Iqbal Aroussi
FYI: me too.
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 16:08, Frank Laszlo fr...@franksworld.org wrote:

 On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

 Hi Porters!

 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody!


 FYI, I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error when loading the page.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Frank Laszlo

On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

Hi Porters!

I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
by everybody!


FYI, I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error when loading the page.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Marin Atanasov Nikolov
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Frank Laszlo fr...@franksworld.org wrote:
 On 12/29/11 6:44 AM, Bernhard Froehlich wrote:

 Hi Porters!

 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody!


 FYI, I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error when loading the page.


Me too :(

BTW, has anyone considered evaluating Jenkins [1] for doing the same thing?

Jenkins is quite interesting IMO, and is worth testing it out :)

[1] http://jenkins-ci.org/

Regards,
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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Frank Laszlo wrote:

  I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
  reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
  by everybody!
 
 FYI, I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error when loading the page.

In nginx case, it's usually a sympthom of broken/stalled/stopped backend.

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread wen heping
Account created.
Am I the first user of your redports.org ?

wen

2011/12/29 Bernhard Froehlich de...@freebsd.org

 Hi Porters!

 I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
 reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
 by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
 redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
 2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
 Committers a public service to test their new ports
 or ports patches during development or before
 submitting a ports PR.

 Many people test ports only on their own machine
 because of lack of hardware. Redports gives you
 instant access to build environments for FreeBSD 7.4,
 8.2, 9-CURRENT, 10-CURRENT on i386 and amd64 and even
 special ones that use CLANG/LLVM or GCC 4.5 as ports
 compiler.

 For everyone familiar with FreeBSD Ports Tinderbox [1]
 it's pretty obvious how it works. In fact redports is
 build on top of multiple Tinderboxes so it is
 scalable, fast and reliable. With your account you get
 your own Subversion Repository to maintain your ports
 and with every commit to the repository all affected
 ports are automatically built.

 When registering an account please read the UserGuide
 [2] first to get an idea of how to work with it.
 Feedback and new Ideas are welcome!


 Best regards,
 Bernhard Fröhlich (decke@)

 [1] http://tinderbox.marcuscom.**com/ http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/
 [2] http://redports.org/wiki/**UserGuidehttp://redports.org/wiki/UserGuide

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Re: redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
I am trying this out.  Looking at the instructions on 
https://redports.org/wiki/UserGuide:



svn co https://svn.redports.org/yourusername
mkdir www
cp -pr /usr/ports/www/phpvirtualbox www/
svn add www
svn commit -m phpvirtualbox added

shouldn't there be a second line cd yourusername or something like that?
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redports.org - The public FreeBSD ports development infrastructure

2011-12-29 Thread Bernhard Froehlich

Hi Porters!

I am happy to announce that redports.org has finally
reached the point where I think It's safe to be used
by everybody! In case you never heard of it before
redports is the result of an idea born at EuroBSDCon
2011 in Karlsruhe to give Port Maintainers and Port
Committers a public service to test their new ports
or ports patches during development or before
submitting a ports PR.

Many people test ports only on their own machine
because of lack of hardware. Redports gives you
instant access to build environments for FreeBSD 7.4,
8.2, 9-CURRENT, 10-CURRENT on i386 and amd64 and even
special ones that use CLANG/LLVM or GCC 4.5 as ports
compiler.

For everyone familiar with FreeBSD Ports Tinderbox [1]
it's pretty obvious how it works. In fact redports is
build on top of multiple Tinderboxes so it is
scalable, fast and reliable. With your account you get
your own Subversion Repository to maintain your ports
and with every commit to the repository all affected
ports are automatically built.

When registering an account please read the UserGuide
[2] first to get an idea of how to work with it.
Feedback and new Ideas are welcome!


Best regards,
Bernhard Fröhlich (decke@)

[1] http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/
[2] http://redports.org/wiki/UserGuide

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