Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, eculp ec...@encontacto.net wrote: Quoting Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Guido Falsi wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:39:11AM -0600, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. I'm having the same issues on FreeBSD 6.3. Just upgraded p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.5_4 to p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_2 and get a similar error: Feb 12 17:10:25 users spamd[22561]: child process [22563] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2541. Running Perl v5.8.9. Had this problem on two machines. I solved it by deinstalling spamassassin and all perl modules it depended upon, reinstalling it and all mandatory and optional perl modules it requires. I'd also like to point out I user pkg_rmleaves to perform this task. This is easier than doing it by hand using pkg_delete and less error prone. You could, obviously, also have portmaster adn portupgrade perform the task, but they'd update a whole lot more ports which don't really need to be rebuilt.(like the perl interpreter itself) I tried to solve the problem by running: portupgrade -fr p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_2 but after reinstalling all packages required by Spamassassin (including perl :groan:!) the problem still persists. I found that if I started the service on the commandline using: spamd -d -C /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid (ie trying to replicate(?) the local rc init process for spamd) then the service will run correctly in the background. I've left it like this at the moment, I hope that's correct and I've not missed out anything, I'll try removing spamd and all the required ports and reinstalling on Monday when I have some free time. Cheers. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://freebsd.munk.me.uk/ - A FreeBSD Admin Weblog http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
Quoting Jez Hancock jez.hanc...@gmail.com: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, eculp ec...@encontacto.net wrote: Quoting Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Guido Falsi wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:39:11AM -0600, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. I'm having the same issues on FreeBSD 6.3. Just upgraded p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.5_4 to p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_2 and get a similar error: Feb 12 17:10:25 users spamd[22561]: child process [22563] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2541. Running Perl v5.8.9. Had this problem on two machines. I solved it by deinstalling spamassassin and all perl modules it depended upon, reinstalling it and all mandatory and optional perl modules it requires. I'd also like to point out I user pkg_rmleaves to perform this task. This is easier than doing it by hand using pkg_delete and less error prone. You could, obviously, also have portmaster adn portupgrade perform the task, but they'd update a whole lot more ports which don't really need to be rebuilt.(like the perl interpreter itself) I tried to solve the problem by running: portupgrade -fr p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_2 but after reinstalling all packages required by Spamassassin (including perl :groan:!) the problem still persists. I found that if I started the service on the commandline using: spamd -d -C /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid Is this actually scoring your email, normally? IMO, the -C should point to the configuration files that are in /usr/local/share/spamassassin which generates the original error. I tried your version and it does what you said but doesn't actually score spam. Thanks, ed P.S. I, like you, am still trying to find the combination to be able to upgrade and have it work. (ie trying to replicate(?) the local rc init process for spamd) then the service will run correctly in the background. I've left it like this at the moment, I hope that's correct and I've not missed out anything, I'll try removing spamd and all the required ports and reinstalling on Monday when I have some free time. Cheers. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://freebsd.munk.me.uk/ - A FreeBSD Admin Weblog http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. Having this problem too, on 8.0-ST and perl 5.10. A portupgrade -Rf spamd and p5-Mail-SpamAssassin do not help. regards, Marco ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:06:03PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. Having this problem too, on 8.0-ST and perl 5.10. A portupgrade -Rf spamd and p5-Mail-SpamAssassin do not help. Try running sa-update as root first? -- WXS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Wesley Shields wrote: Try running sa-update as root first? No luck either: channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed regards, Marco -- Where there's a will, there's a relative. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Wesley Shields wrote: Try running sa-update as root first? Running sa-update -D gives: Feb 12 23:06:41.819 [4545] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all Feb 12 23:06:41.819 [4545] dbg: logger: logging level is DBG Feb 12 23:06:41.819 [4545] dbg: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.3.0 Feb 12 23:06:41.819 [4545] dbg: generic: Perl 5.010001, PREFIX=/usr/local, DEF_RULES_DIR=/usr/local/share/spamassassin, LOCAL_RULES_DIR=/usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin, LOCAL_STATE_DIR=/var/db/spamassassin Feb 12 23:06:41.819 [4545] dbg: config: timing enabled Feb 12 23:06:41.821 [4545] dbg: config: score set 0 chosen. Feb 12 23:06:41.866 [4545] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes Feb 12 23:06:41.867 [4545] dbg: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.66 Feb 12 23:06:41.867 [4545] dbg: generic: sa-update version svn897929 Feb 12 23:06:41.867 [4545] dbg: generic: using update directory: /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000 Feb 12 23:06:42.179 [4545] dbg: diag: perl platform: 5.010001 freebsd Feb 12 23:06:42.179 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.12 Feb 12 23:06:42.179 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: HTML::Parser, version 3.64 Feb 12 23:06:42.179 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::DNS, version 0.66 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: NetAddr::IP, version 4.027 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Time::HiRes, version 1.9719 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Archive::Tar, version 1.56 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Zlib, version 1.10 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.12 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: MIME::Base64, version 3.09 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: DB_File, version 1.82 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::SMTP, version 2.31 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Mail::SPF, version v2.007 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IP::Country::Fast, version 604.001 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.84 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Net::Ident, version 1.20 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Socket::INET6, version 2.56 Feb 12 23:06:42.180 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: IO::Socket::SSL, version 1.31 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Compress::Zlib, version 2.015 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Mail::DKIM, version 0.37 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: DBI, version 1.609 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Getopt::Long, version 2.38 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: LWP::UserAgent, version 5.834 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: HTTP::Date, version 5.831 Feb 12 23:06:42.181 [4545] dbg: diag: [...] module installed: Encode::Detect, version 1.01 Feb 12 23:06:42.182 [4545] dbg: gpg: Searching for 'gpg' Feb 12 23:06:42.182 [4545] dbg: util: current PATH is: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin Feb 12 23:06:42.183 [4545] dbg: util: executable for gpg was found at /usr/local/bin/gpg Feb 12 23:06:42.183 [4545] dbg: gpg: found /usr/local/bin/gpg Feb 12 23:06:42.183 [4545] dbg: gpg: release trusted key id list: 5E541DC959CB8BAC7C78DFDC4056A61A5244EC45 26C900A46DD40CD5AD24F6D7DEE01987265FA05B 0C2B1D7175B852C64B3CDC716C55397824F434CE Feb 12 23:06:42.188 [4545] dbg: channel: attempting channel updates.spamassassin.org Feb 12 23:06:42.188 [4545] dbg: channel: update directory /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org Feb 12 23:06:42.188 [4545] dbg: channel: channel cf file /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org.cf Feb 12 23:06:42.189 [4545] dbg: channel: channel pre file /var/db/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org.pre Feb 12 23:06:42.193 [4545] dbg: dns: query failed: 0.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org = NOERROR Feb 12 23:06:42.196 [4545] dbg: dns: query failed: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org = NOERROR channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed Feb 12 23:06:42.196 [4545] dbg: diag: updates complete, exiting with code 4 regards, Marco -- They don't suffer. They can't even speak English. -- George F. Baer, answering a reporter's question about the suffering of starving miners. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On 02/12/10 22:48, Marco Beishuizen wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Wesley Shields wrote: Try running sa-update as root first? No luck either: channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed Another thing I did was create the file v330.pre in /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin. Just copied the sample one. But I don't think this makes any difference(I did it before rebuilding the ports and it did not solve it). I had to install a few per ports by hand though. Also I did remove them, did not upgrade them in place using portmaster/portupgrade. It should be the same, I know, but sometimes it's not exactly the same. -- Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Feb 12 23:06:42.196 [4545] dbg: dns: query failed: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org = NOERROR channel: no 'mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org' record found, channel failed Feb 12 23:06:42.196 [4545] dbg: diag: updates complete, exiting with code 4 Looks like your local DNS might be broken: # dig -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ; DiG 9.5.2-P2 -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40052 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. 3600 IN TXT http://spamassassin.apache.org/updates/MIRRORED.BY; ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS ns.hyperreal.org. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS a.auth-ns.sonic.net. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS b.auth-ns.sonic.net. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS c.auth-ns.sonic.net. ;; Query time: 56 msec ;; SERVER: 206.126.224.1#53(206.126.224.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Feb 12 17:19:14 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 205 Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, eculp ec...@encontacto.net wrote: Quoting Jez Hancock jez.hanc...@gmail.com: I found that if I started the service on the commandline using: spamd -d -C /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid Is this actually scoring your email, normally? IMO, the -C should point to the configuration files that are in /usr/local/share/spamassassin which generates the original error. I tried your version and it does what you said but doesn't actually score spam. Urgh no! I realized after I'd last posted on the list that that commandline doesn't actually do anything to filter my spam... grr. :( I then went on to try fixing the problem as quoted above using pkg_rmleaves (ran pkg_rmleaves, removed p5-Mail-Spamassassin and all it's dependencies, reinstalled SA), but this did not fix the problem for me either. After that I reverted SA back to the old version just to stem the flow of spam for now until either a fix is released or I get the chance to look into it further. FYI if anyone wants to revert back to the old version of the SA port, what I did was: 1. cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade/ (fantastic tool!) 2. make install clean 3. portdowngrade -s:pserver:anon...@anoncvs.fr.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin -o (when prompted, login using password 'anoncvs') 4. Select '5' when prompted (double check this though, pick the version of SA you want to revert back to). 5. Opt to revert back to that version in portdowngrade when prompted. 6. portupgrade -f p5-Mail-SpamAssassin 7. Start SA. That should hopefully have the effect of reverting back to the old version of SA and allow you to start the daemon without the error message. All the best. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://freebsd.munk.me.uk/ - A FreeBSD Admin Weblog http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote: Looks like your local DNS might be broken: # dig -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ; DiG 9.5.2-P2 -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40052 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. 3600 IN TXT http://spamassassin.apache.org/updates/MIRRORED.BY; ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS ns.hyperreal.org. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS a.auth-ns.sonic.net. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS b.auth-ns.sonic.net. spamassassin.org. 70841 IN NS c.auth-ns.sonic.net. ;; Query time: 56 msec ;; SERVER: 206.126.224.1#53(206.126.224.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Feb 12 17:19:14 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 205 When I do this I get: dig -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ; DiG 9.6.1-P1 -t any mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3570 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: mirrors.updates.spamassassin.org. 3600 IN TXT http://spamassassin.apache.org/updates/MIRRORED.BY; ;; Query time: 201 msec ;; SERVER: 10.0.0.138#53(10.0.0.138) ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 13 00:34:41 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 113 regards, Marco -- Don't sweat it -- it's only ones and zeros. -- P. Skelly ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
Quoting Jez Hancock jez.hanc...@gmail.com: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, eculp ec...@encontacto.net wrote: Quoting Jez Hancock jez.hanc...@gmail.com: I found that if I started the service on the commandline using: spamd -d -C /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/ -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid Is this actually scoring your email, normally? IMO, the -C should point to the configuration files that are in /usr/local/share/spamassassin which generates the original error. I tried your version and it does what you said but doesn't actually score spam. Urgh no! I realized after I'd last posted on the list that that commandline doesn't actually do anything to filter my spam... grr. :( I then went on to try fixing the problem as quoted above using pkg_rmleaves (ran pkg_rmleaves, removed p5-Mail-Spamassassin and all it's dependencies, reinstalled SA), but this did not fix the problem for me either. After that I reverted SA back to the old version just to stem the flow of spam for now until either a fix is released or I get the chance to look into it further. FYI if anyone wants to revert back to the old version of the SA port, what I did was: 1. cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade/ (fantastic tool!) Agreed, I knew it existed but had never used it. 2. make install clean 3. portdowngrade -s:pserver:anon...@anoncvs.fr.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin -o (when prompted, login using password 'anoncvs') 4. Select '5' when prompted (double check this though, pick the version of SA you want to revert back to). 5. Opt to revert back to that version in portdowngrade when prompted. 6. portupgrade -f p5-Mail-SpamAssassin 7. Start SA. That should hopefully have the effect of reverting back to the old version of SA and allow you to start the daemon without the error message It seems to. It started at least;) And ! ! ! YES IT WORKS ! ! ! Thanks for the temporary work around and the detailed instructions that are perfect. It saved me a lot of time. Hopefully this will be worked out in ports shortly. Maybe the perl upgrade will do it but I don't even want to think about it for a couple of days. Have a great weekend, ed All the best. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://freebsd.munk.me.uk/ - A FreeBSD Admin Weblog http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
spamassassin problem with upgrade
Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. Thanks, ed ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Guido Falsi wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:39:11AM -0600, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. Had this problem on two machines. I solved it by deinstalling spamassassin and all perl modules it depended upon, reinstalling it and all mandatory and optional perl modules it requires. I'd also like to point out I user pkg_rmleaves to perform this task. This is easier than doing it by hand using pkg_delete and less error prone. You could, obviously, also have portmaster adn portupgrade perform the task, but they'd update a whole lot more ports which don't really need to be rebuilt.(like the perl interpreter itself) -- Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: spamassassin problem with upgrade
Quoting Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Guido Falsi wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:39:11AM -0600, eculp wrote: Spamassassin seems to crash everytime I try to start it. Starting spamd. child process [89827] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2544. It has always just worked. Any suggestions. Had this problem on two machines. I solved it by deinstalling spamassassin and all perl modules it depended upon, reinstalling it and all mandatory and optional perl modules it requires. I'd also like to point out I user pkg_rmleaves to perform this task. This is easier than doing it by hand using pkg_delete and less error prone. You could, obviously, also have portmaster adn portupgrade perform the task, but they'd update a whole lot more ports which don't really need to be rebuilt.(like the perl interpreter itself) Thanks for the recomendation. I was concerned about the new perl default 5.10. I have yet to update it. Maybe I should just bit the bullet and do it all at once. I'll look at pkg_rmleaves first. Thanks for letting me know your solution for the error message. Have a great day and weekend. ed -- Guido Falsi m...@madpilot.net ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org