Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-08 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
 Joe == Joe Marcus Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snipped]

Joe The setuid privileges are dropped once initialization is done since 
GTK+
Joe apps cannot run set[ug]id.  If they could, or if 
gnome-screesaver-dialog
Joe was not a GTK+ app, this wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks for the explanation, but I've a little doubt here, I saw
implementation of gtk_init_with_args()[1]. So I also noticed that it
checks for calling process to be set{uid,gid} and terminates if it is.

So, even if application drops superuser privileges before
gtk_init_with_args(), then how is it be able to access
/etc/passwd.master ?

References:
[1] - 
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gtk%2B/trunk/gtk/gtkmain.c?revision=19481view=markup

TIA
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:51:13PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 23:07 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
   Joe Marcus Clarke writes:
  Joe On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:59 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
   Hi,
   
   Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, 
  it
   doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
   running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing 
  this ?
   And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
   
   During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
   (sometime more, sometimes less) .
   
   Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?
  
  Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver with 
  PAM
  Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which requires 
  the
  Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround is 
  to
  Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a different 
  PAM
  Joe module which does not require root privileges.
  
  I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
  also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
  /usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?
 
 PAM and gnome-screensaver do not work together if you are using
 pam_unix.  Rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, and it will
 instead read /etc/master.passwd directly to authenticate the user.  That
 will work.

So, is there a scenario where PAM and gnome-screensaver *do*
work?  If not, then why is PAM an option?

I admit that I don't fully understand PAM, but have noticed
that there's a whole bunch of PAM stuff in recent FreeBSD
configurations, even at the non-ports level, so I have it in
gnome-screensaver, too.  I thought that was just how it was
supposed to be done.

Therefore, whenever I mistakenly allow the screen to be locked,
I have to log-in from another machine and kill the screen
saver...

My FreeBSD system is physically secure, so I don't have it
lock automatically when the screen saver comes on, so this
only happens when I mis-mouse in the GNOME System menu.  So it
hasn't bothered me enough to really try debugging it, up to now.
(Although I did try to remove the lock screen menu item, but
the menu-editing facility did not facilitate that...)

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-07 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 16:36 +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:51:13PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 23:07 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
Joe Marcus Clarke writes:
   Joe On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:59 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल 
   wrote:
Hi,

Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using 
   gnome-screensaver, it
doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing 
   this ?
And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.

During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
(sometime more, sometimes less) .

Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?
   
   Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver 
   with PAM
   Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which 
   requires the
   Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround 
   is to
   Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a 
   different PAM
   Joe module which does not require root privileges.
   
   I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
   also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
   /usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?
  
  PAM and gnome-screensaver do not work together if you are using
  pam_unix.  Rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, and it will
  instead read /etc/master.passwd directly to authenticate the user.  That
  will work.
 
 So, is there a scenario where PAM and gnome-screensaver *do*
 work?  If not, then why is PAM an option?

If you're using a PAM module which doesn't require root privileges (e.g.
pam_ldap) then PAM support should work.

 
 I admit that I don't fully understand PAM, but have noticed
 that there's a whole bunch of PAM stuff in recent FreeBSD
 configurations, even at the non-ports level, so I have it in
 gnome-screensaver, too.  I thought that was just how it was
 supposed to be done.
 
 Therefore, whenever I mistakenly allow the screen to be locked,
 I have to log-in from another machine and kill the screen
 saver...
 
 My FreeBSD system is physically secure, so I don't have it
 lock automatically when the screen saver comes on, so this
 only happens when I mis-mouse in the GNOME System menu.  So it
 hasn't bothered me enough to really try debugging it, up to now.
 (Although I did try to remove the lock screen menu item, but
 the menu-editing facility did not facilitate that...)

I filed a bug against gnome-screensaver a long time ago (see
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370847).  I don't see this bug
ever being fixed in gnome-screensaver, though.  If anyone wants to work
on a setuid wrapper which can handle the PAM dialog, I would be happy to
integrate it into our port.  There already exists support in
gnome-screensaver to handle such a wrapper, but since the non-PAM
(default) configuration works for me, I haven't been bothered enough to
implement this myself.

Joe

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:36:51PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:51:13PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
   Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver 
   with PAM
   Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which 
   requires the
   Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround 
   is to
   Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a 
   different PAM
   Joe module which does not require root privileges.
   
   I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
   also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
   /usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?
  
  PAM and gnome-screensaver do not work together if you are using
  pam_unix.  Rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, and it will
  instead read /etc/master.passwd directly to authenticate the user.  That
  will work.

Just to add a bit more noise to this discussion: I've just re-configured
gnome-screensaver to not use PAM, and re-installed.  When doing so, I
discovered that this installs gnome-screensaver-dialog, which is setuid
root.  Clearly, that's necessary in order to look at master.passwd
directly.  Isn't the same setuid-root done when PAM is involved?

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-07 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:07 +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:36:51PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:51:13PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver 
with PAM
Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which 
requires the
Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only 
workaround is to
Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a 
different PAM
Joe module which does not require root privileges.

I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
/usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?
   
   PAM and gnome-screensaver do not work together if you are using
   pam_unix.  Rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, and it will
   instead read /etc/master.passwd directly to authenticate the user.  That
   will work.
 
 Just to add a bit more noise to this discussion: I've just re-configured
 gnome-screensaver to not use PAM, and re-installed.  When doing so, I
 discovered that this installs gnome-screensaver-dialog, which is setuid
 root.  Clearly, that's necessary in order to look at master.passwd
 directly.  Isn't the same setuid-root done when PAM is involved?

The setuid privileges are dropped once initialization is done since GTK+
apps cannot run set[ug]id.  If they could, or if gnome-screesaver-dialog
was not a GTK+ app, this wouldn't be a problem.  That's why a wrapper
that actually does the PAM dialog would work here.  Linux, on the other
hand, includes a setuid tool with Linux PAM which does the privileged
work for pam_unix.  This means that none of their login apps need to be
setuid root.

Joe

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x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
Hi,

Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.

During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
(sometime more, sometimes less) .

Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?

TIA
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread R.Mahmatkhanov
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Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल пишет:
 Hi,
 
 Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
 doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
 running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
 And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
 
 During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
 (sometime more, sometimes less) .
 
 Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?
 
 TIA

I'm second it. But not just with like 2.22.1, i meet with this firstly
in 2.18. There is no difference if i build it with or without PAM support.
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
 R == R Mahmatkhanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
R Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल пишет:
 Hi,
 
 Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
 doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
 running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
 And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
 
 During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
 (sometime more, sometimes less) .
 
 Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?
 
 TIA

R I'm second it. But not just with like 2.22.1, i meet with this firstly
R in 2.18. There is no difference if i build it with or without PAM 
support.

Any hacks or workarounds against this, you aware of ? Did you submit
any PR related to this ?

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:59 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
 doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
 running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
 And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
 
 During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
 (sometime more, sometimes less) .
 
 Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?

This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver with PAM
support, but they are currently using a PAM module which requires the
executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround is to
rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a different PAM
module which does not require root privileges.

Joe

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:06:48 -0500, R.Mahmatkhanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



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Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल пишет:

Hi,

Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.

During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
(sometime more, sometimes less) .

Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?

TIA


I'm second it. But not just with like 2.22.1, i meet with this firstly
in 2.18. There is no difference if i build it with or without PAM  
support.


I can't reproduce your problem for without PAM support. I don't use PAM,  
so it works great here with default setup to unlock screen.


Cheers,
Mezz


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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष श ुक्ल
 Joe Marcus Clarke writes:
Joe On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:59 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
 doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
 running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
 And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
 
 During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
 (sometime more, sometimes less) .
 
 Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?

Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver with PAM
Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which requires the
Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround is to
Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a different PAM
Joe module which does not require root privileges.

I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
/usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?

TIA
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
 Jeremy == Jeremy Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snipped]

Jeremy I can't reproduce your problem for without PAM support. I don't use
Jeremy PAM, so it works great here with default setup to unlock screen.

If you don't use PAM, then with which password do you unlock screen, hmm...?

Thanks
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:39:55 -0500, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Jeremy == Jeremy Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


[snipped]

Jeremy I can't reproduce your problem for without PAM support. I  
don't use
Jeremy PAM, so it works great here with default setup to unlock  
screen.


If you don't use PAM, then with which password do you unlock screen,  
hmm...?


I believe that it reads in /etc/master.passwd instead.

Cheers,
Mezz


Thanks
Ashish Shukla



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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 23:07 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
  Joe Marcus Clarke writes:
 Joe On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:59 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
  doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
  running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
  And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.
  
  During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
  (sometime more, sometimes less) .
  
  Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?
 
 Joe This is typically the case when one builds gnome-screensaver with PAM
 Joe support, but they are currently using a PAM module which requires the
 Joe executable be setuid root (e.g. pam_unix).  The only workaround is to
 Joe rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, or use a different PAM
 Joe module which does not require root privileges.
 
 I've tried copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver, but
 also thats of no use. Any ideas, why is that not working inspite of
 /usr/local/libexec/gnome-screensaver-dialog being setuid, hmm...?

PAM and gnome-screensaver do not work together if you are using
pam_unix.  Rebuild gnome-screensaver without PAM support, and it will
instead read /etc/master.passwd directly to authenticate the user.  That
will work.

Joe

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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread R.Mahmatkhanov
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Jeremy Messenger пишет:
 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:06:48 -0500, R.Mahmatkhanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Ashish Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6AM2 ?8H5B:
 Hi,

 Whenever I try to unlock my screen, locked using gnome-screensaver, it
 doesn't accept my password, rejects with Incorrect password. I'm
 running x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 . Any ideas what is causing this ?
 And BtW, I've compiled gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 with PAM support.

 During password verification, there is some non-uniform delay
 (sometime more, sometimes less) .

 Is there anyone else experiencing this issue, hmm...?

 TIA
 
 I'm second it. But not just with like 2.22.1, i meet with this firstly
 in 2.18. There is no difference if i build it with or without PAM
 support.
 
 I can't reproduce your problem for without PAM support. I don't use PAM,
 so it works great here with default setup to unlock screen.

Yes, my fault. I rebuild it with no PAM, and it now working. Thanks!
But i believe i had a negative experience with this in past.

 
 Cheers,
 Mezz
 
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Re: x11/gnome-screensaver-2.22.1 is not unlocking screen on entry of correct password.

2008-04-06 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
 Jeremy == Jeremy Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jeremy On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:39:55 -0500, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeremy == Jeremy Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [snipped]
 
Jeremy I can't reproduce your problem for without PAM
 support. I don't use
Jeremy PAM, so it works great here with default setup to unlock
 screen.
 
 If you don't use PAM, then with which password do you unlock screen,
 hmm...?

Jeremy I believe that it reads in /etc/master.passwd instead.

Okay, thanks for the replies.
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