Re: HELP!!!

2002-09-30 Thread Edwin Groothuis

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:33:40AM +0300, Bakkers Business Solutions SIA wrote:
> I was trying to download a very important file from our bookkeeping software
> server (runing on FREEBSD) to my FTP server and I instead of command PUT
> used GET, than I understood that it was wrong I tryed the same with PUT. I
> think I spoiled that file. IS IT POSSIBLE TO UNDO THAT ACTION???

Nope. Get your backup tapes!

Edwin

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HELP!!!

2002-09-30 Thread Bakkers Business Solutions SIA

Dir Sir/Madam,
I was trying to download a very important file from our bookkeeping software
server (runing on FREEBSD) to my FTP server and I instead of command PUT
used GET, than I understood that it was wrong I tryed the same with PUT. I
think I spoiled that file. IS IT POSSIBLE TO UNDO THAT ACTION???

I was connected to the server through SSH with SecureCRT.
I was connected as ROOT.

Thank You!
Martins


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Re: Unable to make the keyboard work "properly"

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-30 21:42:34 +0300:
> On 2002-09-30 11:32, "Jorge Mario G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Here is my problem. When I'm on the machine the keyboard works
> > perfect, but when i conect to that box thru SSH (Putty) the keyboard
> > is a mess; backspace is delete, delete doesnt work! nor does HOME,
> > END.
> 
> This sounds like you don't have the proper terminal type set in PuTTY
> or your shell environment.  Can you check the terminal type that PuTTY
> advertises to the ssh connection, and compare it with the output of
> the following command, while connected to FreeBSD?
> 
>   echo $TERM
> 
> I have used PuTTY to connect to FreeBSD machines, or Linux machines,
> or Solaris machines, with an advertised terminal type of "xterm".  The
> startup scripts of my shell on those machines never make any change to
> the TERM environment variable.  It all "just works(TM)".

putty expects the remote system to be linux. that's why it does
weird things with keyboard. you'll want to at least make backspace
send ^H.

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HELP!!!

2002-09-30 Thread Bakkers Business Solutions SIA

Dir Sir/Madam,
I was trying to download a very important file from our bookkeeping software
server (runing on FREEBSD) to my FTP server and I instead of command PUT
used GET, than I understood that it was wrong I tryed the same with PUT. I
think I spoiled that file. IS IT POSSIBLE TO UNDO THAT ACTION???

I was connected to the server through SSH with SecureCRT.
I was connected as ROOT.

Thank You!
Martins


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Re: Ports FAQ is a great read

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-30 18:39:16 -0400:
> RE: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
> RE2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
> 
> This is a GREAT read, strongly recommended for newbies.  One or two
> corrections though.  The part that says "Note: You must be the root user to
> install ports" applies only if you don't edit the Makefil and specify a
> different install path.

I would say that this is obvious and not ports specific, thus not
needed in the ports chapter.

> (running "make ; make install" can be shortened to just "make install"
> - cool!)

as has been pointed out by anoter poster, these two commands are not
equivalent.

> The one thing I haven't learned yet is what "make install clean" does
> exactly and why "make" can take different commands in the first place.
 
i suggest you read the GNU make manual:
http://www.gnu.org/manual/make/html_chapter/make_toc.html
it's interesting reading (i really enjoyed it on the summer vacation
last year), and it will give you good introduction on what makefiles
are, and how come make can take more than one "command" as you
called it.

then proceed with the pmake (that's our make) tutorial at
/usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/paper.ascii.gz. beware, it's a bit
outdated, so where in doubt, the make(1) manpage is authoritative.
 
> PS - RE2 is also an amazing read, kudo's to the fine authors!!

what's RE2?


# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-30 22:49:27 -0400:
> There are whole *books* written on make

hmm, i could only find one book on make, by ORA, and that is pretty
old. people who have read it and who i talked to said it wasn't the
best stuff from ORA.

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Re: set fnord foo

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-30 15:26:47 -0500:
> In the last episode (Sep 30), Roman Neuhauser said:
> > could anyone tell me what $subject does? i can't find any
> > explanation. man pages for sh(1) (freebsd) and bash(1) (linux) don't
> > mention fnord.
> > 
> > what does it do?
> 
> The set command will set $1, $2, etc as though the arguments were
> passed to the script itself on the commandline.  So after a "set fnord
> foo", you could do
> 
> $ echo $#
> 2
> $ echo $1
> fnord
> $ echo $*
> fnord foo
> 
> As for what fnord does?  It gives you a headache.

yeah, i figured out i made a complete fool of myself after a bit
more rtfming and googling (FOLDOC). now if i only knew why oh why is
mkinstalldirs written this way.

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program to create partial invisable gifs

2002-09-30 Thread David Banning

Is there anything in the ports to create a gif image with invisable 
edges?

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make buildworld -- ERROR

2002-09-30 Thread MET

I've cvsuped to -STABLE.

So now following a tutorial in the FreeBSD Unleashed book I'ved simply entered 
one command.

# make buildworld

After about 5 minutes it fails horribly.



cc -O -pipe  -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config 
-DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC  -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/lcm.c -o lcm.o
Illegal instruction - core dumped
*** Error code 132
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
ox#

=

Any ideas?  I'm not sure what else to include in this email, so please ask 
away.  

Also note, I'm doing this because I would like to install some ports which are 
having issues, and a few people have suggested that doing this is the way to 
fix it.

Thanks in advance, as always.

~ Matthew

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Re: Ports FAQ is a great read

2002-09-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert

Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "make install clean" is the same thing as:
> make install ; make clean

It's a bit closer to "make install && make clean".

> >> (09.30.2002 @ 1539 PST): Peter Leftwich said, in 1.5K: <<

> > and why "make" can take different commands in the first place.

It doesn't take "commands"; it takes "targets".  
Explaining why that is meaningful involves understanding what make(1)
actually does.  There are whole *books* written on make, and syntax
varies a bit from one make implementation to another.

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DCOPserver:failed inter process communication

2002-09-30 Thread Vinod

Hi there.I was trying to use the "kill $!" command to
kill the last process but instead did a "kill $?" by
mistake and from then on my interprocess communication
doesnt start.
i get the following message
"There was an error setting up inter-process
Communications for KDE.The message returned by the
system was:
Could not read network connection list.
/root/DCOPserver_uncc.edu_:0
Please check that the "dcopserver" program is
running."

thne on my screen i see a ICEauthority failing.can't
make much sense.Can anyone tell me how i can salvage
things here?
Would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Vinod

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Re: help setting up wine

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Weinberger

the freebsd diary put out a good article, i believe. either that or
onlamp.com.

-Adam


>> (09.30.2002 @ 1913 PST): SweeTLeaF said, in 1.5K: <<
> Hello ,
> 
>   Setting up wine?
> 
>   I just installed wine from the 4-stable packages and need some
>   guidance on setting it up.
> 
>   The host i installed wine on does not have any "real" window
>   partitions as the hd is dedicated to freebsd. according to the
>   documentation if the latter is the case then one needs to make fake
>   window directories. The documentation shows the dir. that need to be
>   created , c:\windows, c:\windows\system c:\windows\Start Menu and
>   c:\windows\start Menu\Programs
> 
> I read i can make these fake directories anywhere so i though about
> making a wine dir. in usr and creating them there.
> 
> #mkdir -p wine
> cd wine
> 
> mkdir -p /windows, windows/system etc... is this correct?
> 
> my next question is if the above is how you would create the fake
> directories then how do you create the required directory Start Menu?
> There is a space there, mkdir will create two separate directories Start and
> Menu not one directory Start Menu as the document says to create.
> 
> After creating the fake directories i assume the last part is to just
> tell the config in ~./ that /usr/wine is its root for c: is this all
> or is there more. i think the registry is setup when installing the
> package is this correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Are there any good docs. for setting up wine on freebsd without a
> native windows partition, as the one from the winehq site is
> misleading.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Promise driver maintainer?

2002-09-30 Thread Octavian Hornoiu

Who is the active maintainer or person who ported the Promise driver for
the latest cards from the available Linux driver?  Does anyone know his
name and email?  I would willingly email him myself with my RAID
questions if only I knew a way to find developer contact info.


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help setting up wine

2002-09-30 Thread SweeTLeaF

Hello ,

  Setting up wine?

  I just installed wine from the 4-stable packages and need some
  guidance on setting it up.

  The host i installed wine on does not have any "real" window
  partitions as the hd is dedicated to freebsd. according to the
  documentation if the latter is the case then one needs to make fake
  window directories. The documentation shows the dir. that need to be
  created , c:\windows, c:\windows\system c:\windows\Start Menu and
  c:\windows\start Menu\Programs

I read i can make these fake directories anywhere so i though about
making a wine dir. in usr and creating them there.

#mkdir -p wine
cd wine

mkdir -p /windows, windows/system etc... is this correct?

my next question is if the above is how you would create the fake
directories then how do you create the required directory Start Menu?
There is a space there, mkdir will create two separate directories Start and
Menu not one directory Start Menu as the document says to create.

After creating the fake directories i assume the last part is to just
tell the config in ~./ that /usr/wine is its root for c: is this all
or is there more. i think the registry is setup when installing the
package is this correct?

Thanks,


Are there any good docs. for setting up wine on freebsd without a
native windows partition, as the one from the winehq site is
misleading.








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Re: "local patches" with buildworld ?

2002-09-30 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger




On Monday 30 September 2002 09:32 pm, éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ wrote:
| Dear Sirs,
|
| every time I do "make buildworld", I usually apply several patches,
| is it possible to specify somewhere those patches ? I'm afraid I'll
| forget to apply them once...

Well, the patches really only need to be applied when you cvsup, not 
when you make, right?  (Because just making doesn't change the source, 
which is what the patches change.)

What I do is to have my own shell script which I use instead of 
cvsup'ing directly.  It can then do any special customization either 
before or after the cvsup.

In your case, it would cvsup and then apply the patches.

|
| Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ)
| Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ)
|
|
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RE: 4.7 RC problem

2002-09-30 Thread Derrick Ryalls

opening up the firewall in rc.conf fixed it.  I had explicitly added the
firewall stuff in the kernel for router capabilities later, it just
didn't click for me to explicity open it up right away.  Thanks to all
for the help.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Giorgos
Keramidas
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:49 PM
To: Derrick Ryalls
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 4.7 RC problem


On 2002-09-30 00:06, Derrick Ryalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After some hardware issues were resolved, I did a cvsup to get 
> everything up to date and ready for a kernel compile.  The o/s will 
> eventually be used as a router, but for now it has just one nic. cvsup

> goes fine, and I start the buildworld.  No errors through the whole 
> process, so I reboot to switch to the new kernel.  The machine is now 
> dead to me, it won't respond to pings/ssh/begging.  On site, the box 
> is running, and my brother can log in fine (directly, not via ssh). 
> When I ask him to ping around or even ping localhost, it comes up with
> "ping: sendto: permission denied".

This is definitely a firewall, although not very obvious which one of
them all :-)

The message is identical to what happens when I load the ipfw.ko module
(one of the firewalls available for FreeBSD) without configuring any
rules to allow some traffic through the firewall. See the sample
transcript below (note that I am running all the commands as `root', the
superuser):

root@hades[02:39]/root# kldload ipfw
ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled,
default to deny, logging disabled

root@hades[02:41]/root# ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Permission denied
^C

root@hades[02:42]/root# ipfw add 1 pass ip from any to any
1 allow ip from any to any

root@hades[02:42]/root# ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.084 ms
^C

You have obviously enabled one of the firewalls, in your new kernel
config but didn't configure anything to let packets through before
rebooting.   Does your kernel config include any of the following?

options IPFIREWALL  #firewall
options IPFILTER#ipfilter support

Giorgos.

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Re: Q: continuing interrupted 'make buildworld'

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 17:31, John Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to restart a 'make buildworld' without deleting or recreating
> any unnecesary files (i.e., after messing about in the source tree).
>
> How should I do this? (Is this the effect of 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld'?)

That should work.  It will rebuild a few things that you could
probably avoid, but in general it works fine.

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"local patches" with buildworld ?

2002-09-30 Thread Илья Шипицин

Dear Sirs,

every time I do "make buildworld", I usually apply several patches,
is it possible to specify somewhere those patches ? I'm afraid I'll forget
to apply them once...

Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ)
Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ)


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Re: ssh problems

2002-09-30 Thread Rob B

- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Bye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: ssh problems


> On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 10:52:34PM +1000, Rob B wrote:
> > These two machines are on a private LAN.  Going from one to the other
works
> > fine, but not the other way round.

> > erwin:~$ ssh doormat
> > The authenticity of host 'doormat (192.168.100.1)' can't be established.
> > DSA key fingerprint is c9:5d:b6:f5:d6:ab:6a:58:75:5f:d9:a7:c1:6f:be:00.
> > Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
> > Warning: Permanently added 'doormat' (DSA) to the list of known hosts.
> > key_verify failed for server_host_key

>
> Try running ssh with the flags "-v -v" to get more verbose diagnostics.
> You may well see what is failing, where, when and why.


debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Host 'doormat.number6.loop.bpa.nu' is known and matches the DSA host
key.
debug1: Found key in /home/loop/.ssh/known_hosts:1
debug1: bits set: 1628/3191
debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature incorrect
key_verify failed for server_host_key
debug1: Calling cleanup 0x12002ad20(0x0)
erwin:~$

I'm wondering if erwin's keys are the ones with the problem, and it's
doormat sending the error

> Just as a thought, though, is doormat's server_host_key in the right
place,
> with the correct permissions?

[root@doormat]/root: ls -la /etc/ssh/
total 136
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel512 Jul 29  2002 .
drwxr-xr-x  16 root  wheel   2048 Sep 16 09:13 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  88110 Jul 29  2002 moduli
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  26346 Jun 15  2002 primes
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   1233 Jul 29  2002 ssh_config
-rw---   1 root  wheel668 Jul 27  2002 ssh_host_dsa_key
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel612 Jul 27  2002 ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
-rw---   1 root  wheel537 Jul 27  2002 ssh_host_key
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel341 Jul 27  2002 ssh_host_key.pub
-rw---   1 root  wheel883 Jul 29  2002 ssh_host_rsa_key
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel234 Jul 29  2002 ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   2414 Jul 29  2002 sshd_config

I have regenerated the keys on doormat, still getting the same error


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Re: How to best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Collette

Sean O'Neill wrote:
> I just noticed that the KDE2 ports are no longer in the ports tree.
> 
> What the best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?  Do I need to delete
> KDE2 first and then install KDE3 ?

This is one of those to bring out the big stick for...

pkg_delete -rf qt-*

Not a command to be taken lightly.  It will kill Qt, and ALL things depending 
upon it.  Yes, even if you have Qt2 only apps.  Qt2 and Qt3 don't live nicely 
together on the same box.

If you have apps you rely upon that are Qt only, such as QCad or Kvirc, they 
up and break at this point.  There are some efforts to get these apps up to 
their respective Qt3 versions, but I know some of them are far from straight 
forward porting projects.

Assuming Qt2 isn't an issue, just pop on over to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and do 
the make install.  You might want to consider grabbing the packages, as this 
is a LONG compile.

You can find more details concerning this kinda stuff over at...

http://freebsd.kde.org/

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Rob Ellis

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:39:51PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
> At 05:16 PM 9.30.2002 -0400, Rob Ellis wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:55:36PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
> >> At 03:50 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hi all!
> >> >
> >> >  Can I use something like
> >> >
> >> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
> >> >
> >> >to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
> >> >from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
> >> >doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >-Pranav
> >> >
> >> 
> >> You would use this for IDE HDs:
> >> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192 #Change the "bs" switch to something
> >> that works best for you.
> >> 
> >> Of importance is that ad1 be equal to or larger than ad0. If larger, then
> >> that larger portion will be unusable.
> >> 
> >
> >To make the new disk bootable you want to copy the disklabel 
> >and bootstrap code -- but then you probably also want to do that 
> >on a slice rather than the disk device (e.g., "ad0s1" rather than "ad0") --
> >check your setup.
> >
> >So you might do something like this:
> >
> >  # example only, don't cut & paste
> >  dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/dev/ad1s1 bs=128k # for ata
> >  disklabel /dev/ad0s1 > disklabel.ad0s1
> >  disklabel -R -B /dev/ad1s1 disklabel.ad0s1
> >
> >- Rob
> >
> 
> NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It is
> bootable already.
> 

Thanks, that's good to know.

The disklabel command on the slice does work though?
I was doing that on a two-slice config (os/data), when I wanted 
to copy just the first (small) slice and make it bootable... but now 
that you mention it, it is kind of roundabout when you have one slice 
and the disks are the same... :-)

If you're backing up a small disk onto new big disk, you might
want to slice the big disk differently?

- Rob

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Re: 4.7 RC problem

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 00:06, Derrick Ryalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After some hardware issues were resolved, I did a cvsup to get
> everything up to date and ready for a kernel compile.  The o/s will
> eventually be used as a router, but for now it has just one nic.
> cvsup goes fine, and I start the buildworld.  No errors through the
> whole process, so I reboot to switch to the new kernel.  The machine is
> now dead to me, it won't respond to pings/ssh/begging.  On site, the box
> is running, and my brother can log in fine (directly, not via ssh).
> When I ask him to ping around or even ping localhost, it comes up with
> "ping: sendto: permission denied".

This is definitely a firewall, although not very obvious which one of
them all :-)

The message is identical to what happens when I load the ipfw.ko
module (one of the firewalls available for FreeBSD) without
configuring any rules to allow some traffic through the firewall.
See the sample transcript below (note that I am running all the
commands as `root', the superuser):

root@hades[02:39]/root# kldload ipfw
ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to 
deny, logging disabled

root@hades[02:41]/root# ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Permission denied
^C

root@hades[02:42]/root# ipfw add 1 pass ip from any to any
1 allow ip from any to any

root@hades[02:42]/root# ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.084 ms
^C

You have obviously enabled one of the firewalls, in your new kernel
config but didn't configure anything to let packets through before
rebooting.   Does your kernel config include any of the following?

options IPFIREWALL  #firewall
options IPFILTER#ipfilter support

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Jack L. Stone

At 01:27 AM 10.1.2002 +0100, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> bs=102400 or bs=128k will dd faster though you can play with that.
>
>That's not my experience.  8k dd runs at disk speed (30-40 MB/s) on
>all the machines I've used recently when copying between different
>disks on different ATA controllers.  Between disks on the same
>controller I only get about 13MB/s (why?) but there's no difference
>between 8k and 128k dd.
>
>-- Richard
>

Check your I/O. Try this:
dd if=/dev/ad0c of=/dev/null bs=128k &

and in the background do an 'iostat ad0 1'.  Here's an example with an
IDE drive:

# iostat ad0 1
tty ad0 cpu
   tin tout  KB/t tps  MB/s  us ni sy in id
 03  5.19   7  0.03  11  0  4  1 84
 0  126 127.36 183 22.74   0  0  6  2 92
 0   44 128.00 190 23.76   0  0  2  0 98
 0   44 128.00 191 23.89   0  0  5  0 95
 0   44 128.00 191 23.88   0  0  7  1 92

As you can see, it's really doing 128 kB transfers, for an average transfer
rate of almost 24 MB/s


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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Richard Tobin

> bs=102400 or bs=128k will dd faster though you can play with that.

That's not my experience.  8k dd runs at disk speed (30-40 MB/s) on
all the machines I've used recently when copying between different
disks on different ATA controllers.  Between disks on the same
controller I only get about 13MB/s (why?) but there's no difference
between 8k and 128k dd.

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Re: Ports FAQ is a great read

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Weinberger

>> (09.30.2002 @ 1539 PST): Peter Leftwich said, in 1.5K: <<
> One final suggestion for www.freebsd.org - I would like a command similar
> to "make search name=xx" that would attempt to match any package that
> can be "pkg_add"'ed from the ports collection.  True, searching the ports
> yields lots of links, (Description, Sources, Changes, Download, etc) but it
> is difficult to figure out what's a port only and what can be pkg_add -r
> installed!

please examine /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch, and
/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/README.portsearch.

> The one thing I haven't learned yet is what "make install clean" does
> exactly

"make install clean" is the same thing as:
make install ; make clean

> and why "make" can take different commands in the first place.

i have no idea what you mean by that. do you mean why it was designed
that way? what libraries and functions allow it to do that?

perhaps you'd want to read the make(1) manpage.

>> end of "Ports FAQ is a great read" from Peter Leftwich <<

-Adam


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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Jack L. Stone

At 06:39 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
>Hi !
>
>   Thank you all for your prompt replies. You have said in your
>replies that the bs parameter should be set appropriately. Is there a way
>to find out appropriate block size, or any reasonable size should do, like
>1k or 4k. I am asking because I tried it a few weeks ago and I was unable
>to mount the new drive let alone boot from it. Mostly I must have done
>something wrong.  I dont have access to another drive or else I could have
>tried it again. Let me know if any block size will do or should it be
>specific.
>
>Thanks
>-Pranav
>
>***
>Pranav A. Desai
>
>Home :- (937) 294 1381
>***
>
>On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>
>> At 04:02 PM 9.30.2002 -0700, David Smithson wrote:
>> >> >> >Hi all!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Can I use something like
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
>> >
>> >Yes.  This will work fine.
>> >
>> >> NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It
>> >is
>> >> bootable already.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Jack L. Stone,
>> >> Administrator
>> >
>> >I agree with Jack.  However, if you want to boot from it as "ad1" or
>> >whatever, I think you'll have to tweak your bootloader settings a little
>> >bit.  Right?
>> >
>>
>> Yes, or if it is for a backup for ad0, just switch the cable and
reboot.
>>

This should tell you:
$ dumpfs /filesystem | grep '^bsize'

... and replace the /filesystem with those of your choice

BTW, I found that I could boot right up with the bs=8192, (which was my
bsize) but had to run fsck for anything different because I got warning
about "not clean" on bootup. So, I booted single user and ran fsck and it
cleaned right up. 

bs=102400 or bs=128k will dd faster though you can play with that.

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Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?

2002-09-30 Thread Jud

9/30/2002 12:56:39 PM, Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> (09.30.2002 @ 0312 PST): Socketd said, in 1.2K: <<
[snip]
>> > > Mail/word/nntp (staroffice?)
>> > openoffice/AbiWord
>> I am just asking :-), why not Staroffice?
>
>go for it. it doesn't make too much difference. besides, i can't even
>get openoffice to compile, but many have and many love it.
[snip]

The openoffice package works for me (thank you, Martin).  It's a tbz2 
package, so you can use it as is if your system is the right age, or I 
suppose de/recompress otherwise.

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suscribe

2002-09-30 Thread Enrique Morfin

suscribe me please
tank you

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Re: Need some ftp access advice

2002-09-30 Thread Josh Paetzel

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:25:55PM +, Socketd wrote:
> Hi again
> 
> I am running a ftp server, I don't allow anonymous logins and I chroot 
> all my users.
> The problem is that I want to hold the above settings, but still give all 
> my users a public/joined up- and download dir, how do I do that?
> 
> Br
> socketd
> 
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One possible way would be to chroot them to /home/ftp and then make the common 
dir and the home dirs branch from there.  I don't know off the top of my head 
if you can symlink out of a chrooted environment, I'm thinking you can't, but 
if you can then that is another option.  

So you'd have /home/ftp/upload, /home/ftp/download, both set to read write and 
execute for members of the group ftp, then the private dirs would be 
/home/ftp/users/someuser, where users is read write execute to the ftp group, 
and someuser is read write and execute only to the user someuser.

Josh

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Mike Hogsett


Please anyone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that when you are
using dd with a raw disk blocksize only effects performance and does not
have any effect on the duplicated data.

> Hi !
> 
>   Thank you all for your prompt replies. You have said in your
> replies that the bs parameter should be set appropriately. Is there a way
> to find out appropriate block size, or any reasonable size should do, like
> 1k or 4k. I am asking because I tried it a few weeks ago and I was unable
> to mount the new drive let alone boot from it. Mostly I must have done
> something wrong.  I dont have access to another drive or else I could have
> tried it again. Let me know if any block size will do or should it be
> specific.
> 
> Thanks
> -Pranav
> 
> ***
> Pranav A. Desai
> 
> Home :- (937) 294 1381
> ***
> 
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote:
> 
> > At 04:02 PM 9.30.2002 -0700, David Smithson wrote:
> > >> >> >Hi all!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Can I use something like
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
> > >
> > >Yes.  This will work fine.
> > >
> > >> NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It
> > >is
> > >> bootable already.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jack L. Stone,
> > >> Administrator
> > >
> > >I agree with Jack.  However, if you want to boot from it as "ad1" or
> > >whatever, I think you'll have to tweak your bootloader settings a little
> > >bit.  Right?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, or if it is for a backup for ad0, just switch the cable and reboot
> .
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jack L. Stone,
> > Administrator
> >
> > SageOne Net
> > http://www.sage-one.net
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mencoder w bsdbt848

2002-09-30 Thread Peter B


I have tried to get mencoder to capture and encode from my tv card but it 
won't work. Tried various options and examples from freebsd maillinglists 
without success.

Any suggestions how to accomplish realtime capture and compression ?
(possibly with other tools than mencoder..)


Motherboard:  A7V333-R
CPU:  CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1800+ (1532.91-MHz 686-class CPU)
TV-card:  pci bus 0x cardnum 0x0c function 0x00:(scanpci)
vendor 0x109e device 0x036e 
BrookTree  Device unknown
  bktr0:  mem 0xcf00-0xcf000fff irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0
OS:   FreeBSD wave.campus.luth.se 4.6.1-RC2

pb@wave ~/tmp/MPlayer-0.90pre8 >./mencoder -tv 
on:driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0:input=1 -o test.vid -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc 
-lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg


MEncoder 0.90pre8-2.95.3 (C) 2000-2002 Arpad Gereoffy (see DOCS!)

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon 4 PM Palomino/Athlon MP Multiprocessor/Athlon XP 
eXtreme Performance (Family: 6, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Reading /home/pb/.mplayer/codecs.conf: 38 audio & 106 video codecs
File not found: 'frameno.avi'
font: can't open file: /home/pb/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
success: format: 0  data: 0x0 - 0x0
Detected TV! ;-)
Selected driver: bsdbt848
 name: Brooktree848 Support
 author: Charles Henrich
 comment: in development
START
[V] filefmt:9  fourcc:0x59565955  size:768x576  fps:25.00  ftime:=0.0400
Detected audio codec: [pcm] afm:pcm (Uncompressed PCM)
Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
AUDIO: srate=44100  chans=2  bps=2  sfmt=0x10  ratio: 176400->176400
Opening video filter: [expand=-1:-1:-1:-1:1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1  (-1=autodetect) osd: 1
==
Opening video decoder: [raw] RAW Uncompressed Video
VDec: vo config request - 768 x 576 (preferred csp: Packed UYVY)
Couldn't find matching colorspace - retrying with -vop scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
Sorry, selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Can't find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x59565955!
*** Try to upgrade /home/pb/.mplayer/codecs.conf from etc/codecs.conf
*** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html!
Exiting...
Exit 1



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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Pranav A. Desai

Hi !

Thank you all for your prompt replies. You have said in your
replies that the bs parameter should be set appropriately. Is there a way
to find out appropriate block size, or any reasonable size should do, like
1k or 4k. I am asking because I tried it a few weeks ago and I was unable
to mount the new drive let alone boot from it. Mostly I must have done
something wrong.  I dont have access to another drive or else I could have
tried it again. Let me know if any block size will do or should it be
specific.

Thanks
-Pranav

***
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Home :- (937) 294 1381
***

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote:

> At 04:02 PM 9.30.2002 -0700, David Smithson wrote:
> >> >> >Hi all!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can I use something like
> >> >> >
> >> >> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
> >
> >Yes.  This will work fine.
> >
> >> NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It
> >is
> >> bootable already.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jack L. Stone,
> >> Administrator
> >
> >I agree with Jack.  However, if you want to boot from it as "ad1" or
> >whatever, I think you'll have to tweak your bootloader settings a little
> >bit.  Right?
> >
>
> Yes, or if it is for a backup for ad0, just switch the cable and reboot.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack L. Stone,
> Administrator
>
> SageOne Net
> http://www.sage-one.net
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Need some ftp access advice

2002-09-30 Thread Socketd

Hi again

I am running a ftp server, I don't allow anonymous logins and I chroot 
all my users.
The problem is that I want to hold the above settings, but still give all 
my users a public/joined up- and download dir, how do I do that?

Br
socketd

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread David Smithson

> >> >Hi all!
> >> >
> >> > Can I use something like
> >> >
> >> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1

Yes.  This will work fine.

> NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It
is
> bootable already.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack L. Stone,
> Administrator

I agree with Jack.  However, if you want to boot from it as "ad1" or
whatever, I think you'll have to tweak your bootloader settings a little
bit.  Right?





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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Jack L. Stone

At 05:16 PM 9.30.2002 -0400, Rob Ellis wrote:
>On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:55:36PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>> At 03:50 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi all!
>> >
>> >Can I use something like
>> >
>> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
>> >
>> >to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
>> >from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
>> >doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >-Pranav
>> >
>> 
>> You would use this for IDE HDs:
>> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192 #Change the "bs" switch to something
>> that works best for you.
>> 
>> Of importance is that ad1 be equal to or larger than ad0. If larger, then
>> that larger portion will be unusable.
>> 
>
>To make the new disk bootable you want to copy the disklabel 
>and bootstrap code -- but then you probably also want to do that 
>on a slice rather than the disk device (e.g., "ad0s1" rather than "ad0") --
>check your setup.
>
>So you might do something like this:
>
>  # example only, don't cut & paste
>  dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/dev/ad1s1 bs=128k # for ata
>  disklabel /dev/ad0s1 > disklabel.ad0s1
>  disklabel -R -B /dev/ad1s1 disklabel.ad0s1
>
>- Rob
>

NO! An entire image is taken of the ad0 and no labeling is necessary. It is
bootable already.

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Ports FAQ is a great read

2002-09-30 Thread Peter Leftwich

RE: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
RE2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html

This is a GREAT read, strongly recommended for newbies.  One or two
corrections though.  The part that says "Note: You must be the root user to
install ports" applies only if you don't edit the Makefil and specify a
different install path.  Also, the handbook could be a little clearer about
options for users that do not want to install the entire ports tree, and
instead want to cvsup one specific folder, such as /usr/ports/java/jdk

(Note to self - wow! a "whereis" command?? running "make ; make install"
can be shortened to just "make install" - cool!)

One final suggestion for www.freebsd.org - I would like a command similar
to "make search name=xx" that would attempt to match any package that
can be "pkg_add"'ed from the ports collection.  True, searching the ports
yields lots of links, (Description, Sources, Changes, Download, etc) but it
is difficult to figure out what's a port only and what can be pkg_add -r
installed!

The one thing I haven't learned yet is what "make install clean" does
exactly and why "make" can take different commands in the first place.

PS - RE2 is also an amazing read, kudo's to the fine authors!!

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Re: buildworld

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 12:20, Brian Henning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am trying to do a make buildworld on my machine and I don't
> understand a few things about it. can someone explain what the
> CVSROOT enviornment variable is for? is this the path to the cvsup
> directory... should i be doing a cvsup before or after a buildworld?

The FreeBSD handbook (hopefully) explains it all in detail.
Please read at least the relevant chapter, at:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

Giorgos.

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Re: Unable to make the keyboard work "properly"

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 11:32, "Jorge Mario G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is my problem. When I'm on the machine the keyboard works
> perfect, but when i conect to that box thru SSH (Putty) the keyboard
> is a mess; backspace is delete, delete doesnt work! nor does HOME,
> END.

This sounds like you don't have the proper terminal type set in PuTTY
or your shell environment.  Can you check the terminal type that PuTTY
advertises to the ssh connection, and compare it with the output of
the following command, while connected to FreeBSD?

echo $TERM

I have used PuTTY to connect to FreeBSD machines, or Linux machines,
or Solaris machines, with an advertised terminal type of "xterm".  The
startup scripts of my shell on those machines never make any change to
the TERM environment variable.  It all "just works(TM)".

Giorgos.

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Kevin Oberman

> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:55:36 -0500
> From: "Jack L. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> At 03:50 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> > Can I use something like
> >
> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
> >
> >to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
> >from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
> >doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >-Pranav
> >
> 
> You would use this for IDE HDs:
> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192 #Change the "bs" switch to something
> that works best for you.
> 
> Of importance is that ad1 be equal to or larger than ad0. If larger, then
> that larger portion will be unusable.

You can also use dd(1) on a slice:
dd bs=8192 if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/dev/ad2s2

Same size caveats apply. The output slice must fit and will be the
same size as the input slice. This is handy because you can copy one or
two slices to a smaller disk (as long as it has room for the slices)
and you can re-order slices.

I used to regularly backup my 12 GB drive to a 6 GB drive by copying
the first two slices, one Windows and one FreeBSD. Both were bootable
if I installed the disk in place of ad0. (Actually, it was bootable
from ad2, but required a stand alone boot to edit the fstab.)

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Q: continuing interrupted 'make buildworld'

2002-09-30 Thread John Mills

Freebies -

I would like to restart a 'make buildworld' without deleting or recreating
any unnecesary files (i.e., after messing about in the source tree).

How should I do this? (Is this the effect of 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld'?)

More generally, is there some outline or the _more_important_ 'make'
targets after one has done 'cvsup'? (By '_more_important_' I really mean
the ones a person is likely to use commonly.)

Also, where should I look to get an idea of the defined tags for 'cvsup'
(RELENG_4_5_??? for example)?

Thanks for any help to a newbie.

 - John Mills


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Re: FREEBSD CD Distribution

2002-09-30 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 12:10:08PM -0400, John Ferrillo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just wondering if it is legal to distribute your iso files on CD-rom.  
> I would like to offer them for sale as a service for people without 
> broadband connections.  Basically, I would be downloading the iso's 
> from your site and offer the service of distribution thru ebay for a 
> reasonable sum.  This sum would cover my cost of handling, packaging, 
> and shipping.  I have done this for Linux distributions in the past but 
> have run into some trouble with US companies stating that I have no 
> right to sell their distros in such manner.  Please advise on this 
> issue.  Thanks!

The ISO images may be resold as-is.

Kris



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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Rob Ellis

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 03:55:36PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
> At 03:50 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> > Can I use something like
> >
> >dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
> >
> >to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
> >from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
> >doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >-Pranav
> >
> 
> You would use this for IDE HDs:
> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192 #Change the "bs" switch to something
> that works best for you.
> 
> Of importance is that ad1 be equal to or larger than ad0. If larger, then
> that larger portion will be unusable.
> 

To make the new disk bootable you want to copy the disklabel 
and bootstrap code -- but then you probably also want to do that 
on a slice rather than the disk device (e.g., "ad0s1" rather than "ad0") --
check your setup.

So you might do something like this:

  # example only, don't cut & paste
  dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/dev/ad1s1 bs=128k # for ata
  disklabel /dev/ad0s1 > disklabel.ad0s1
  disklabel -R -B /dev/ad1s1 disklabel.ad0s1

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sis900 : sis0 attach returned 6

2002-09-30 Thread Guido Van Hoecke

Trying to install FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Aug 14 21:23:26 GMT 2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 on a 
new ECS iBuddy4 desknote with sis900 fast ethernet card.

The sis900 is never attached. When I look at dmesg output, I see 
repeated blocks about the sis900:

=> sis0:  port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 
0xdfffb000-0xdfffbfff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci0
=> sis0: Ethernet address: (...mac address...)
=> sis0: MII without any PHY!
=> device_probe_and_attach: sis0 attach returned 6

I can use this device without problems under win2k.

How can I proceed to get the sis900 working?

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Re: how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Jack L. Stone

At 03:50 PM 9.30.2002 -0500, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
>
>Hi all!
>
>   Can I use something like
>
>dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
>
>to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
>from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
>doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).
>
>Thanks
>
>-Pranav
>

You would use this for IDE HDs:
# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192 #Change the "bs" switch to something
that works best for you.

Of importance is that ad1 be equal to or larger than ad0. If larger, then
that larger portion will be unusable.

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
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Re: named rejecting all kinds of serials

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-28 22:51:08 +0200:
> Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-28 15:48:00 +0200:
>  > > Bye the way, RFC 1912 is definitely recommended reading for
>  > > anybody who operates a name server or who is responsible
>  > > for zone files.
>  > 
>  > Heh, RFC 1912 (and the others) are definitely recommended reading
>  > for anybody who operates the BIND name server,
> 
> No, I disagree, it is recommended reading for everone who
> operates name service, no matter if it's BIND or Microsoft
> Domain Wizard or whatever it might be called.  Large parts
> of the RFC are not BIND-specific, including the handling
> of serial numbers, which is the topic of this thread.

Not all content dns servers use zone transfers. Reusing my RFC 2821
example: MTA configuration files format is not part of the SMTP
protocol or any of the related RFC AFAICT, and distributing the
configuration in failover setups thus cannot be either. I don't see
why it should. In fact, DNS as defined by the relevant RFCs differs
from other internet protocols like HTTP so much it's funny. HTTP
doesn't dictate redundant servers, SMTP does neither, nor any other
internet protocol. Redundant DNS servers don't provide any
protection, either. Besides, what good is that clients can resolve
your address using one of a few content DNS servers if the, say, web
server whose address they resolve is down?
 
>  > Your advice was actually very much to the point, Janine obviously
>  > runs BIND. I just find it hilarious that RFCs are a viable way of
>  > documenting an implementation (as opposed to a principle).
> 
> BIND is the reference implementation of DNS, and I guess
> it is the most complete and correct one.

Apache is the reference implementation of the HTTP protocol, yet the
relevant RFCs don't cover distributing httpd.conf among one's
redundant apache installations.

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how to use 'dd' to create image of a hard drive?

2002-09-30 Thread Pranav A. Desai


Hi all!

Can I use something like

dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1

to copy every thing from first drive to the second and be able to boot
from the second drive? Do I need to specify block size ? The second drive
doesnt have anything on it (filesystem or slices).

Thanks

-Pranav


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Re: buildworld

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 12:20:20PM -0500, Brian Henning wrote:

> i am trying to do a make buildworld on my machine and I don't understand a
> few things about it. can someone explain what the CVSROOT enviornment
> variable is for? is this the path to the cvsup directory... should i be
> doing a cvsup before or after a buildworld?

CVSROOT is used by cvs(1), which doesn't normally come into doing a
buildworld.  CVSROOT normally contains the path to the cvs repository.

cvsup(1) is a program for synchronising filesystems across a network
efficiently.  It utilizes cvs(1) on the server to generate exactly the
difference between the version on the server and the version on your
machine.  You definitely want to run cvsup before doing your
buildworld, so you can do it with the nice shiny new sources you've
just pulled down.

Cheers,

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Re: set fnord foo

2002-09-30 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (Sep 30), Roman Neuhauser said:
> could anyone tell me what $subject does? i can't find any
> explanation. man pages for sh(1) (freebsd) and bash(1) (linux) don't
> mention fnord.
> 
> what does it do?

The set command will set $1, $2, etc as though the arguments were
passed to the script itself on the commandline.  So after a "set fnord
foo", you could do

$ echo $#
2
$ echo $1
fnord
$ echo $*
fnord foo

As for what fnord does?  It gives you a headache.

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set fnord foo

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

hi there.

could anyone tell me what $subject does? i can't find any explanation.
man pages for sh(1) (freebsd) and bash(1) (linux) don't mention fnord.

what does it do?

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Video Edit Program

2002-09-30 Thread Tomoki Taniguchi

I was wondering if there is a video editing software like Adobe Premiere for 
FreeBSD.  I know that there is an open source program called cinelerra that 
was written natively for linux.  Is there one for Freebsd?
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

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Re: How to best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?

2002-09-30 Thread Jonathan Chen

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 09:18:19AM -0500, Sean O'Neill wrote:
> I just noticed that the KDE2 ports are no longer in the ports tree.
> 
> What the best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?  Do I need to delete KDE2 
> first and then install KDE3 ?

For best results, yes. This includes all kde2 dependant stuff you've
installed.
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Re: Groups and Mutt

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-28 22:24:21 -0500:
> In the last episode (Sep 28), Bryan Cassidy said:
> > I have been playing around with some other options in mutt and I was
> > just wondering this. When you first open mutt you see all your
> > e-mails right? Well, I want to know instead of seeing "ALL" of your
> > e-mails on one screen can I have like one group for say the
> > freebsd-questions mailing list and everything for the mailing list is
> > sent to that group and so on. I hope I was clear enough with my
> > question. I am new to alot of things so if you don't mind I would
> > like a clear answer that explains a little in detail so I understand
> > what I am doing.
> 
> What you want is procmail, which will filter your emails into different
> mail files.  Then you can tell mutt about them with the "mailboxes"
> keyword.  A sample procmailrc:
> 
> MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
> 
> :0:
> * ^List-ID:  
> bsdq
> 
> :0:
> * ^List-ID:  
> bsds

if you don't like software whose config files look like they're
uuencoded, :) you can use maildrop:

if (/^List-ID: /)
{
to $MAILDIR/bsdq
}

if (/^List-ID: /)
{
to $MAILDIR/bsds
}
 
> And in your .muttrc:
> 
> mailboxes ! =bsdq =bsds

or, if you want mutt to automatically pick up new mailboxes, a
variation of:

mailboxes `find ~/Mail/ -type f -or -type l | perl -ne 'chomp; print "$_ " unless 
m/^.*(postponed|sent|spam|trash)$/'` 

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Re: "Make" always fails on new system

2002-09-30 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-30 01:37:42 -0700:
> Just starting a new system and every attempt to build / make anything fails
> with some kind of LD failure, followed by signal 11 errors. The install of
> the system seemed to go fine.
> 
> Any suggestions what I have missed?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#SIGNAL11

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Re: HP Netserver LH Pro RAID logical disk

2002-09-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 14:31, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
[snip]
> > Parity Drive.
> 
> Is there a way to use the 10GB parity drive, or can I use only 28GB?
Learn how RAID works.  If you want to use RAID, no.  

It's what gives you the redundancy. 


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Re: HP Netserver LH Pro RAID logical disk

2002-09-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen

On 30 Sep 2002, the wise Larry Rosenman spoke, and said:

> On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 13:56, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently bought a HP Netserver LH Pro. It has a HP NetRAID controller
> > with 5 disks attached to it (4x 9.1GB + 1x 2GB, all hotswappable). So it
> > should have a total of 38GB of disk space.
> >
> > But when I look in the HP NetRAID express tools (some sort of BIOS,
> > accessable at boot time) it says that the logical disk is 28GB. When I
> > install FreeBSD, fdisk also says that the size of the disk is 28GB. At
> > this time the machine is configured with RAID-5 (configured this way when
> > I bought it).
> >
> > So my questions are where the other 10GB are, and is there a way to use
> > the total 38GB for FreeBSD? I don't know much about RAID configurations
> > (yet).
> Parity Drive.

Is there a way to use the 10GB parity drive, or can I use only 28GB?


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Re: FREEBSD CD Distribution

2002-09-30 Thread Bob Johnson

> Hi,
> 
> Just wondering if it is legal to distribute your iso files on CD-rom.  

Yes.  Unlike most Linux distributions, FreeBSD is actually free.
The FreeBSD copyright ( http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html ) 
is short and basically says you can do whatever you want with it as 
long as you put the FreeBSD copyright notice on the result and don't 
blame anyone but yourself for the results.

> I would like to offer them for sale as a service for people without 
> broadband connections.  Basically, I would be downloading the iso's 
> from your site and offer the service of distribution thru ebay for a 
> reasonable sum.  This sum would cover my cost of handling, packaging, 
> and shipping.  I have done this for Linux distributions in the past but 
> have run into some trouble with US companies stating that I have no 
> right to sell their distros in such manner.  Please advise on this 
> issue.  Thanks!

While it is technically legal, you will be competing with others 
who already do the same (e.g. see 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html#AEN27455 )
and most (if not all) of whom donate a portion of their profits back 
to supporting FreeBSD development (see http://www.freebsdfoundation.org ).

And just for the record, I'm just a FreeBSD user.  I don't officially 
represent the project in any way.

- Bob

> 
> John Ferrillo
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Re: HP Netserver LH Pro RAID logical disk

2002-09-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 13:56, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently bought a HP Netserver LH Pro. It has a HP NetRAID controller
> with 5 disks attached to it (4x 9.1GB + 1x 2GB, all hotswappable). So it
> should have a total of 38GB of disk space.
> 
> But when I look in the HP NetRAID express tools (some sort of BIOS,
> accessable at boot time) it says that the logical disk is 28GB. When I
> install FreeBSD, fdisk also says that the size of the disk is 28GB. At
> this time the machine is configured with RAID-5 (configured this way when
> I bought it).
> 
> So my questions are where the other 10GB are, and is there a way to use
> the total 38GB for FreeBSD? I don't know much about RAID configurations
> (yet).
Parity Drive.  


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HP Netserver LH Pro RAID logical disk

2002-09-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen


Hi,

I recently bought a HP Netserver LH Pro. It has a HP NetRAID controller
with 5 disks attached to it (4x 9.1GB + 1x 2GB, all hotswappable). So it
should have a total of 38GB of disk space.

But when I look in the HP NetRAID express tools (some sort of BIOS,
accessable at boot time) it says that the logical disk is 28GB. When I
install FreeBSD, fdisk also says that the size of the disk is 28GB. At
this time the machine is configured with RAID-5 (configured this way when
I bought it).

So my questions are where the other 10GB are, and is there a way to use
the total 38GB for FreeBSD? I don't know much about RAID configurations
(yet).

Thanks,

Marco


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Re: I'm New, Help, regarding Installation

2002-09-30 Thread Brossin Pierrick

> When I download the iso images for freebsd5, do I just burn them tot 
> he CD? Like do I need something else to read the iso-images when I 
> boot or does my computer?
> 
> Do I just need the ISo images to install FREEbsd?

I am not sure to understand your question but all you need to do is burn
the iso to a CD; If you are under Windows you can use Nero to burn it.
In case you're under linux or so, use cdrecord.

And it should be bootable!

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Re: I'm New, Help, regarding Installation

2002-09-30 Thread Patrick Holahan

Hi Mooney,

You need to burn the contents of the ISO image.. not the physical file
whatever.iso

If you'd like to read the contents, you can mount the .iso file using the
following:
mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file /path/to/mount/point

I'm not up to date on cd writing under *nix so I can't help you there, but
you can read up / search the web for articles on how to do it..

Regards,
-ph

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: I'm New, Help, regarding Installation


> To the Support Group,
>
> When I download the iso images for freebsd5, do I just burn them tot
> he CD? Like do I need something else to read the iso-images when I
> boot or does my computer?
>
> Do I just need the ISo images to install FREEbsd?
>
> -xachen
> _
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RE: I'm New, Help, regarding Installation

2002-09-30 Thread OCTAVIAN HORNOIU

When you burn the ISO images to the CD it converts it from the ISO
format to an actual CD where files and such are present on the CD.  ISO
is simply a standard for exchanging images of entire CDs with other
people over the internet and such.  Think of it as a giant zip file.
You will need to have a program that supports ISO burning to burn the
CDs but most programs will do that.  An excellent program for burning
ISO's on windows is Nero Burning ROM and there are many for Linux.

At boot time set your computer to boot off of the CD-ROM in the BIOS and
put your newly burned CD in the drive.  It will then recognize it and
boot off the CD you made.  Keep in mind that some older CD-ROMs and
BIOSEs do not support booting off CD-ROM.  Generally with newer
computers, this is not a problem.  If you do run into this, you will
need to create boot floppies.  Please read the Handbook on this issue.

Make sure to read the FreeBSD Handbook thoroughly on installation before
starting to do anything as it will save you lots of headaches.  An
alternative is to get a book from Amazon.  I recommend FreeBSD Unleashed
as it is very friendly to those that are new to BSD.

Good luck!

Octavian Hornoiu



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To the Support Group,

When I download the iso images for freebsd5, do I just burn them tot 
he CD? Like do I need something else to read the iso-images when I 
boot or does my computer?

Do I just need the ISo images to install FREEbsd?

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Re: I'm New, Help, regarding Installation

2002-09-30 Thread Paul Everlund

Mooney Potter wrote:
> To the Support Group,
> 
> When I download the iso images for freebsd5, do I just burn them tot 
> he CD? Like do I need something else to read the iso-images when I 
> boot or does my computer?

ISO-images should not be burned to a CD as data, but as an ISO. If 
burning as data you will end upp with one big file with extension .iso 
and you will not be able to boot. If burning as an ISO you will end up 
with a CD with a lot of files on it. I do not know what kind of burner 
software you are using, but Easy CD Creator, among many others, are 
able to burn ISO's.

> Do I just need the ISo images to install FREEbsd?

Yep.

> -xachen
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I'm New, Help, regarding Installation

2002-09-30 Thread Mooney Potter

To the Support Group,

When I download the iso images for freebsd5, do I just burn them tot 
he CD? Like do I need something else to read the iso-images when I 
boot or does my computer?

Do I just need the ISo images to install FREEbsd?

-xachen
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Re: migration questions

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 02:00, Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0700, Nicholas Hart wrote:
> > Hello!  I would like to migrate my linux (RedHat 7.1) server to
> > FreeBSD.  I am familiar with a lot of unix concepts, but am by no
> > means a guru.  I need some information on how to make this
> > transition as smooth as possible.
> > [...]
> > 3. my firewall & NAT rules
>
> #3 is going to be the trickiest item for you.  It involves a kernel
> recompile and converting your ipchains or iptables rulesets over to
> ipf or ipfw format.  Using ipfw/nat is documented very nicely in the
> handbook however, as is recompiling a kernel.

There is also a great collection of articles on setting up firewalls
with FreeBSD, at web sites such as:

http://www.freebsddiary.org/
http://www.daemonnews.org/

For more documentation available locally, you might want to take a
look at the following places too:

/etc/rc.firewall
This contains a lot of rules for ipfw, and will
certainly be of great assistance to someone who wants
to see practical examples of ipfw at work.

/usr/src/contrib/ipfilter/rules
This directory, part of the ipfilter source, contains
a lot of ipfilter rulesets and examples for ipf & ipnat.

Giorgos.

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Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 10:12, Socketd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's make a layer from top to button:
>   Gnome/KDE
>   GKT/QT
>   Windows manager like Sawfish
>   X windows

Use a fixed-width font when previewing the diagram below.
This is more like:

+---+---+-++
|KDE|  QT-programs  |  Gnome  |  GTK programs  |
+---+---+--+
|  QT library   | GTK library  |
+---+--+
| X11 libraries|
+--+

> Right? So qt and kde programs can't run under gnome/gkt?!?!

You can have both QT-based and GTK-based programs running at the same
time.  I haven't seen many people do it, but you could probably run
most of the Gnome programs within an already running KDE desktop.

Giorgos.

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Re: "Make" always fails on new system

2002-09-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2002-09-30 01:37, Steve Warwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just starting a new system and every attempt to build / make
> anything fails with some kind of LD failure, followed by signal 11
> errors. The install of the system seemed to go fine.

It's always a good idea to include the exact error messages too, when
posting something like this.  Can you copy those and include them to
your message somehow?  Even if this means you have to carefully write
down on a piece of paper a few lines of text, it will be of tremendous
help in realising what the actual problem is.

> Any suggestions what I have missed?

No, none I'm afraid; until it's clear what the problem is.

Giorgos.

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burncd rewriting cd-rw not functioning

2002-09-30 Thread Andrew Watkins

with 
acd0: CD-RW  at ata1-master PIO4

$ burncd -f /dev/acd0c data conf/conf.iso fixate
next writeable LBA 0
writing from file conf/conf.iso size 114080 KB
written this track 114080 KB (100%) total 114080 KB
fixating CD, please wait..
$ burncd -f /dev/acd0c data conf/conf.iso fixate
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCNEXTWRITEABLEADDR): Input/output error
$ burncd -f /dev/acd0c data conf/conf.iso fixate
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCNEXTWRITEABLEADDR): Input/output error

Is there something I'm missing?  Do I need to 'wipe' the cd somehow
first?  Does fixating forever limit the 'rw'ability of the disk?

TIA,
Andrew

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pptpclient

2002-09-30 Thread Yaad Golani

Hi.

Does anyone know how to make pptp 1.1.x use pppd instead of userland ppp?
I've found some articles describing how it can be done in 1.0.3, but since 
1.1.0's Makefile is different, everything changes. 

Thanques.

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buildworld

2002-09-30 Thread Brian Henning

Hello,

i am trying to do a make buildworld on my machine and I don't understand a
few things about it. can someone explain what the CVSROOT enviornment
variable is for? is this the path to the cvsup directory... should i be
doing a cvsup before or after a buildworld?

thanks,
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Re: 4.7 RC problem

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Weinberger

did you remove the bpf device from the kernel?

have him boot into kernel.GENERIC and see if it's happy from within
there.

-Adam


>> (09.30.2002 @ 0006 PST): Derrick Ryalls said, in 1.3K: <<
> First time posting here, and I didn't see the topic before, so here it
> goes...
> 
> I agree to help my brother set up a new bsd box six hours away, doing
> everything remotely once there is network access to the box.  After some
> hardware issues were resolved, I did a cvsup to get everything up to
> date and ready for a kernel compile.  The o/s will eventually be used as
> a router, but for now it has just one nic.  
> 
> cvsup goes fine, and I start the buildworld.  No errors through the
> whole process, so I reboot to switch to the new kernel.  The machine is
> now dead to me, it won't respond to pings/ssh/begging.  On site, the box
> is running, and my brother can log in fine (directly, not via ssh).
> When I ask him to ping around or even ping localhost, it comes up with
> "ping: sendto: permission denied".  He also can't even ssh out.  This
> looks like a permissions/firewall issue, but he is logging in as root,
> and there is no firewall active.  The kernel does have settings for
> routing, but nothing is activated in rc.conf.  Has anyone heard of this
> sort of error?  At this point, we can't even hope for a fix later and
> just cvsup it when it comes out, the only other option is to toast the
> machine completely and go with an earlier revision and not cvsup.
> 
> -Derrick
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Promise FastTrak TX200/SX4000

2002-09-30 Thread Len Conrad


>On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:52:47AM -0700, OCTAVIAN HORNOIU wrote:
> > Are the TX2000 and SX4000 cards

When I checked on the sx4000 about two weeks ago, the FreeBSD guy said he 
was waiting on the cards + docs from Promise US to arrive in DK. I really 
don't think sx4000 will make it into 4.7.

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Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Weinberger

>> (09.30.2002 @ 0312 PST): Socketd said, in 1.2K: <<
> >> Original Message <<
> > > X-windows programs can run under gnome right? But what about kde/qt
> > > programs? (only some of them or what?)
> > you actually have it backwards. gnome runs under X-windows. kde/qt apps
> > run under X too. independent of gnome, completely.
> Let's make a layer from top to button:
> Gnome/KDE
> GKT/QT
> Windows manager like Sawfish
> X windows
> Right? So qt and kde programs can't run under gnome/gkt?!?!

nono. that's an irrelevant comparison. if you install a tape deck and a
CD player in your car, you can listen to CDs and casette tapes. there's
no problem about the CD player not supporting casette tapes. all that
matters is whether the head unit has inputs for both devices.

same thing here. you have qt libs and kde libs, which are necessary to
run KDE applications. stop thinking like Windows. qt and gtk are just
libraries, not exclusive entities.

> > > Browser (Netscape?)
> > galeon
> Ok, you just think it is better or is there another reason?

galeon will interact with your gnome environment. netscape's kindof.
well. just not so cool anymore. galeon is a frontend built on top of
mozilla, which is the new netscape engine anyhow.

> > > Mail/word/nntp (staroffice?)
> > openoffice/AbiWord
> I am just asking :-), why not Staroffice?

go for it. it doesn't make too much difference. besides, i can't even
get openoffice to compile, but many have and many love it.

> > > File manager?
> > nautilus.
> Ok, is this the most used ("default") file manager for gnome?

for the most part, yes.

> > > IP voice (Speak freely, isn't there a graphical one?)
> > yes, but it doesn't work right under fbsd. Yet.
> Ok, when will it be ready? (if you know that).

i'm working with a former fbsd network driver guru on it.

>> end of "Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?" from Socketd <<

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Re: How to restore 'getty'

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Weinberger

no.

'make all' is the same thing as typing 'make' with no targets.

it is dangerous to just build without making dependencies, especially
now that you have started building things randomly throughout the tree.
if you're building just one piece, ALWAYS do:
make depend obj all install
the reason the Makefile has no targets is because of the .include line.
that includes hundreds of lines of Makeifle code.

you need to install world completely. when you installed your system, it
seems you probably left out important pieces, and now you've upgraded
getty, but nothing else. please follow the documented procedure in the
handbook to build/install world.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

-Adam


>> (09.30.2002 @ 0228 PST): Roger Merritt said, in 1.4K: <<
> At 11:43 AM 9/30/02 +0300, Toomas Aas wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >> I've been searching the google group without finding anything on this
> >> subject. I must be using the wrong keywords, because I remember (vaguely)
> >> seeing someone post a year or so ago how to restore something in usr.bin or
> >> usr.sbin. Well, I'll keep on trying.
> >
> >Section 21.4.14 of the handbook has this advice:
> >---
> >If things went slightly wrong, it is easy to rebuild a particular piece
> >of the system. For example, if you accidentally deleted /etc/magic  as
> >part of the upgrade or merge of /etc, the file(1) command will stop
> >working. In this case, the fix would be to run:
> >
> ># cd /usr/src/usr.bin/file
> ># make all install
> >---
> >
> >I've lost the beginning of this thread, so I apologize if this is what 
> >you already tried.
> >--
> >Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
> >* I haven't lost my mind; I know exactly where I left it.
> >
> >
> 
> Ah, now I remember reading that 'way back when I first took the plunge into
> building world, and I had completely forgotten it. The key word looks to be
> 'all'! I missed that. Thank you.
> -- 
> Roger
> 
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Re: Promise FastTrak TX200/SX4000

2002-09-30 Thread Jud



-Original Message-
From: Thomas Spreng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: OCTAVIAN HORNOIU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:31:57 +0200
Subject: Re: Promise FastTrak TX200/SX4000

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:52:47AM -0700, OCTAVIAN HORNOIU wrote:
> Are the TX2000 and SX4000 cards supported under FreeBSD 4.62 or do I have to
> wait for the 4.7 release to purchase them?
>  
>  
> Thanks for your answers ahead of time!

Hi,

read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html about hardware notes for
different releases.



In this case, it doesn't help - the hardware notes 
re 4.6.2 don't show the 2000/4000 cards as supported,
but they also don't show Promise's PDC20276 onboard 
chip, which is working quite nicely for me with 
4-STABLE.

Don't have time to look for it myself here at work, 
but are there any 4.7-RC notes, and if so, do they 
answer Octavian's question?  Failing that, is anyone 
successfully running one of these cards with 4-STABLE?

Jud


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Unable to make the keyboard work "properly"

2002-09-30 Thread Jorge Mario G.

HELLO.

here is my problem. When I'm on the machine the
keyboard works perfect, but when i conect to that box
thru SSH (Putty) the keyboard is a mess; backspace is
delete, delete doesnt work! nor does HOME, END.

I've tried ever possible putty configuration with no
luck!!
I've tried messing with the /etc/inputrc file but
that's a no go

I dont know what to do and this "error" is getting
very annoying
specially cus one of the boxes is used for programming
and all other guys are starting to scream at me

the Linux boxes work perfect from the same "clients"
so for sure the problem is FreeBSD related

Thanks for all the help

NOTE: I've tried so many different keybind in the
.inputrc file that I dont even bother pasting them
here

I'm using the lastest putty (0.52) and
FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE

I still cant get the keyboard to work properly and
this is sad cus I'll have to drop FreeBSD as a
development plataform just for such stupid problem
Thanks




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Puzzling NATD problem

2002-09-30 Thread Kim Helenius

The setting:

Network topology:
Internet---Campus Network---FreeBSD NATD machine---Internal host

A custom kernel build including the following options:
options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT
Used the command:
sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
And started natd with natd -interface xl0

Then did, straight from the manpage, the following firewall rules:
/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any

Now NAT works perfectly for the internal host, but (almost) all TCP connections 
cease to work to/from the NATD machine. AFAIK UDP and ICMP work perfectly. I've 
tried this on two different FreeBSD machines in the same network with identical 
results. If I remove the divert rule, everything works perfectly, except of 
course for the NAT. There have been no similar, puzzling effects on any Linux 
hosts I know of in the same network. I'm sure there's some knob I haven't 
pushed yet :)

I'm aware this doesn't make much of a firewall but I'd like to get natd working 
before I run the firewall script.

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FREEBSD CD Distribution

2002-09-30 Thread John Ferrillo

Hi,

Just wondering if it is legal to distribute your iso files on CD-rom.  
I would like to offer them for sale as a service for people without 
broadband connections.  Basically, I would be downloading the iso's 
from your site and offer the service of distribution thru ebay for a 
reasonable sum.  This sum would cover my cost of handling, packaging, 
and shipping.  I have done this for Linux distributions in the past but 
have run into some trouble with US companies stating that I have no 
right to sell their distros in such manner.  Please advise on this 
issue.  Thanks!

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question about login.conf

2002-09-30 Thread Radko Keves

hi all i try to set minimum of password lenght but have problem:

#cat /etc/login.conf
[...]
rado:\
:ignorenologin:\
:mixpasswordcase=true:\
:passwd_format=blf:\
:minpasswordlen=6:\
:copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
:welcome=/etc/motd:\
:setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES:\
:path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr
/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin ~/bin:\
:cputime=infinity:\
[...]

#cat /etc/auth.conf
auth_list   =   passwd

#cat /etc/pam.d/passwd
passwordsufficient  pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass

#cat /etc/master.passwd | grep rado
rado:(password):1001:1:rado:0:0:Radko Keves:/export/home/rado:/usr/local/bin/bash

#cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

relogin as user rado:

rado$passwd
Changing local password for rado
Old Password: (my old password)
New Password: (empty)
Retype New Password: (empty)
rado$

it change my password to empty but i don't know why 
can anybody help me ?
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Re: BTX halted

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 05:04:07PM +0300, Ülkü SAYILAN wrote:

> I have installed the freebsd 4.3 to no name SCSI pent 166 pc after
> installation, during boot process he has gave error like this
> 
> int:...   err:0001aefl:..1026   eip
> esi:0..   ebx:0.. 0ecx: edx
> cs:0...   ed:0...43ebp:.esp
> 
> 
> ds es fs gs ss
> cs:eip:cc:00..00
> ss:ep:..0300
> 
> BTX halted
> 
> 
> What's the mean of this, anybody can explane this message?!?!?
> 
> is the problem depend on SCSI boot/disk partition, or ethernet cards?
> or anythings?

That's the boot loader crashing.  That's pretty severe.  In principal,
given the crashdump you've printed out, it should be possible to go
into the loader code and work out what was happening at that point,
but you'ld probably have to ask on freebsd-hackers to find someone
with the skills to do that.

This could be one of a number of problems --- disk hardware failure,
problems with the BIOS, wrong disk geometry.  It's unlikely to be
anything to do with the NICs.

One problem, and the first thing to check, is something that used to
be fairly common until sysinstall was modified to remove the
temptation to use such things. "Dangerously dedicated" disks sound
pretty cool to the uninitiated, but beware: many SCSI
controllers/bioses can't cope with them.  Unfortunately, the only
solution if you've installed your system this way is to go back to the
beginning and start all over again, and this time, install a proper
partition table.

If that isn't the case, can you verify that you can boot using the
boot blocks from the installation media (I assume CD Rom)?

Use this procedure:

Start to boot the system from the CD.  When you get the 10 second
count down, hit the space bar to interrupt.  You should end up at
the boot: prompt.

Now type:

unload
lsdev

This will either generate a BTX dump (in which case, you've
probably got pretty bad hardware problems) or it should show you a
list of all potential boot devices, including your hard drive. Now
type:

set currdev={harddrive}  (ie. what lsdev returned for your HD)
load kernel
boot

and you should end up with a running system.

If that whole rigmarole worked, then the problem is that somehow the
boot blocks on your hard drive have become scrambled, and you can
probably repair things by reinstalling them.

If it didn't work and you're not using dangerously dedicated disks,
then you've got really nasty trouble lowlevel trouble which will take
time, effort and probably the services of a FreeBSD guru to sort out.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Gaim - KDE

2002-09-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert

MET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Am I missin something because the problem doesn't appear to be with the GAIM 
> port, but with the gdk-pixbuf-0.18.0 port instead.  It fails to install that 
> port saying something about illegal option -- i.
> 
> Any ideas on how to fix this?

Oh, right, I remember that one now.  The system sed has been enhanced
to include that -i option, but the ports should be able to build
without it, if tweaked properly.  Depending on what stage the sed
invocation comes in at, you might be able to get it running just by
adding "USE_REINPLACE= yes" to the gdk-pixbuf Makefile.

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Re: Apache with Front Page Server Extentions - Apache_FP-1.3.26_x

2002-09-30 Thread Drew Tomlinson

- Original Message -
From: "Gerry Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: Apache with Front Page Server Extentions - Apache_FP-1.3.26_x


>
> Does the httpd binary executable in this Ported App already have the
> Apache FPSE patch applied to it?  Or, is this just Plain Apache
1.3.26?

I'm not an expert but thought I'd pass along how it worked for me.
Maybe others will correct me if I'm wrong... :)

Anyway, I don't think the plain Apache port has the FP patch compiled
in.  However, when you install the FP extensions port, you will see
mod_frontpage get installed as a dependency.  As I understand it, then
mod_frontpage gets loaded as a "DSO".  I don't remember what "DSO"
stands for exactly but it means that it mod_frontpage gets loaded
dynamically when Apache starts, resulting in the same functionalitly
as if it were compiled in.  There is probably a small performance
penalty by not having the patch compiled into the Apache binary but it
is much simpler to set up.

> Also, is it just that the config file has been setup for FPSE, and I
> have to apply the patches locally, and then rebuild Apache locally?
> For this Port to work.

So what worked for me was to install the Apache port first and then
install the FrontPage Extensions port.  I did not have to build Apache
from source.  Then the fun begins in ensuring that your httpd.conf
file is set correctly so the extensions work.  Sorry, I don't remember
the specifics.

There is also an Apache+FP port that installs both together.  However
I don't know how it gets along with other Apache modules or options.
I just chose to install the plain port and then add other pieces
individually.  This worked for me.  YMMV.

> Is, their other FreeBSD documentation more specific about what needs
to
> happen on the FreedBSD side of installing this Port, and then Using
it?
>  Most references push the seeker to the MicroSoft Website which only
> details the "after" the Server is up and running - and very little
about
> the Server install other than run the install script.

I didn't find much either when I looked.  Good luck in getting
everything working!

HTH,

Drew

> Most of the Websites that have documented their install, all show
that
> they have run the FPSE Apache Patch, and then Rebuilt the Apache
Server.
>  If this is the case, then this is what I lack to make this Port
work.
>
> Thanks for your help, in advance.
>
> Gerry Herrera
>
>
>
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Re: Per directory disk quotas ...

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:12:37AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> > disks of the right size, which you can then put a filesystem onto and
> > mount in the correct place.  I've seen reports that this technique
> > works very well to limit the amount of space a jail(8) can use even if
> > the jail's owner has full control over the password file in it.
> 
> Neat, never thought of that ... only issue I could see with using
> something like that is that there appears to be no way of 'growing' the
> file system if required ... but still, a route to look at ...

I believe that disklabel(8) and growfs(8) work just as well on vnode
devices as on regular drives.  And that unlike a regular drive, it's
pretty simple to dd(1) some extra space onto the end of the file...

In fact, let me try that:

I've created a 128Mb vn device on /dev/vn0a, put a file system on
it, mounted it and copied in a bunch of log files:

happy-idiot-talk:/mnt/vn0mnt:# df -kh /mnt/vn0mnt 
Filesystem   Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/vn0a124M   136K   114M 0%/mnt/vn0mnt
happy-idiot-talk:/mnt/vn0mnt:# disklabel -r /dev/vn0
# /dev/vn0:
type: unknown
disk: amnesiac
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 32
tracks/cylinder: 64
sectors/cylinder: 2048
cylinders: 128
sectors/unit: 262144
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   26214404.2BSD 1024  819222   # (Cyl.0 - 127)
  c:   2621440unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 - 127)
happy-idiot-talk:/mnt/vn0mnt:# ls -l
total 135
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  54681 Sep 30 15:05 messages
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15743 Sep 30 15:05 messages.0.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11631 Sep 30 15:05 messages.1.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11253 Sep 30 15:05 messages.2.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11804 Sep 30 15:05 messages.3.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  14268 Sep 30 15:05 messages.4.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15577 Sep 30 15:05 messages.5.gz

The aim is to expand that to 256Mb without trashing the contents...

happy-idiot-talk:/:# umount /mnt/vn0mnt 
happy-idiot-talk:/:# vnconfig -u vn0 
happy-idiot-talk:/:# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1m count=128 >> 
/home/vnodes/vn0backingstore 
128+0 records in
128+0 records out
134217728 bytes transferred in 6.030322 secs (22257141 bytes/sec)
happy-idiot-talk:/:# vnconfig -s labels -c vn0 /home/vnodes/vn0backingstore
happy-idiot-talk:/:# disklabel -r -w vn0 auto
happy-idiot-talk:/:# disklabel -e vn0  [ add in 'a' partition data ]
happy-idiot-talk:/:# disklabel -r vn0
# /dev/vn0c:
type: unknown
disk: amnesiac
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 32
tracks/cylinder: 64
sectors/cylinder: 2048
cylinders: 256
sectors/unit: 524288
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   52428804.2BSD 1024  819222   # (Cyl.0 - 255)
  c:   5242880unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 - 255)
happy-idiot-talk:/:# growfs -y -s 524288 /dev/vn0a 
new filesystemsize is: 262144 frags
growfs: 524288 sectors in 128 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors
256.0MB in 6 cyl groups (22 c/g, 44.00MB/g, 10624 i/g)
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 270368, 360480, 450592
happy-idiot-talk:/:# fsck /dev/vn0a 
** /dev/vn0a
** Last Mounted on /mnt/vn0mnt
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
8 files, 136 used, 253927 free (7 frags, 31740 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation)
happy-idiot-talk:/:# mount -t ufs /dev/vn0a /mnt/vn0mnt
happy-idiot-talk:/:# cd /mnt/vn0mnt 
happy-idiot-talk:/mnt/vn0mnt:# df -kh .
Filesystem   Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/vn0a248M   136K   228M 0%/mnt/vn0mnt
happy-idiot-talk:/mnt/vn0mnt:# ls -la 
total 137
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel512 Sep 30 15:05 ./
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel512 Sep 30 15:00 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  54681 Sep 30 15:05 messages
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15743 Sep 30 15:05 messages.0.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11631 Sep 30 15:05 messages.1.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11253 Sep 30 15:05 messages.2.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11804 Sep 30 15:05 messages.3.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1426

How to best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?

2002-09-30 Thread Sean O'Neill

I just noticed that the KDE2 ports are no longer in the ports tree.

What the best way to upgrade to KDE3 from ports ?  Do I need to delete KDE2 
first and then install KDE3 ?


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BTX halted

2002-09-30 Thread Ülkü SAYILAN


Hi;

I have installed the freebsd 4.3 to no name SCSI pent 166 pc after
installation, during boot process he has gave error like this

int:...   err:0001aefl:..1026   eip
esi:0..   ebx:0.. 0ecx: edx
cs:0...   ed:0...43ebp:.esp


ds es fs gs ss
cs:eip:cc:00..00
ss:ep:..0300

BTX halted


What's the mean of this, anybody can explane this message?!?!?

is the problem depend on SCSI boot/disk partition, or ethernet cards?
or anythings?



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Re: 4.7 RC problem

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Thornton

If you compiled the kernel with the "option IPFIREWALL" you must configure
an firewall or else packets will not pass through.
Add the following lines to your /etc/rc.conf file
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall"

or if you want to do it without rebooting

# ipfw add pass all from any to any

You should then customise your firewall script to your needs as this setup
is insecure.

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> First time posting here, and I didn't see the topic before, so here it
> goes...
>
> I agree to help my brother set up a new bsd box six hours away, doing
> everything remotely once there is network access to the box.  After some
> hardware issues were resolved, I did a cvsup to get everything up to
> date and ready for a kernel compile.  The o/s will eventually be used as
> a router, but for now it has just one nic.
>
> cvsup goes fine, and I start the buildworld.  No errors through the
> whole process, so I reboot to switch to the new kernel.  The machine is
> now dead to me, it won't respond to pings/ssh/begging.  On site, the box
> is running, and my brother can log in fine (directly, not via ssh).
> When I ask him to ping around or even ping localhost, it comes up with
> "ping: sendto: permission denied".  He also can't even ssh out.  This
> looks like a permissions/firewall issue, but he is logging in as root,
> and there is no firewall active.  The kernel does have settings for
> routing, but nothing is activated in rc.conf.  Has anyone heard of this
> sort of error?  At this point, we can't even hope for a fix later and
> just cvsup it when it comes out, the only other option is to toast the
> machine completely and go with an earlier revision and not cvsup.
>
> -Derrick
>
>
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Re: Per directory disk quotas ...

2002-09-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> disks of the right size, which you can then put a filesystem onto and
> mount in the correct place.  I've seen reports that this technique
> works very well to limit the amount of space a jail(8) can use even if
> the jail's owner has full control over the password file in it.

Neat, never thought of that ... only issue I could see with using
something like that is that there appears to be no way of 'growing' the
file system if required ... but still, a route to look at ...

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Re: /usr/ports/java/jdk

2002-09-30 Thread John Bleichert

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Peter Leftwich wrote:

> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:33:50 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: FreeBSD LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: /usr/ports/java/jdk
> 
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, John Bleichert wrote:
> > > RE: http://www.freebsd.org/java/install.html
> > > The first step is to cd /usr/ports/java/jdk -- what if I have no files and
> > > directories in there?  How do I portupgrade or populate in one command?
> > I just did the JDK install 2 nights ago, but opted for
> > /usr/ports/java/jdk13 - is that port directory populated? If your ports
> > tree is installed, why aren't there files in the 'jdk' dir?
> 
> Bless you!  Well what I ended up doing was running /stand/sysinstall and
> downloading the entire ports tree (about 30mb or so?)  It took me a few
> times but then I noticed that /java/jdk is version 1.1.8 - also, make, make
> install then make clean seemed to work fine but my various attempts with my
> various browsers proved java'less!  :(
> 
> > Strange. Also, the /usr/ports/java/jdk witll install version 1.1.8 - is
> > that really what you want?
> > #  John Bleichert
> > #  http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg
> 
> Actually, what I'd like at this point is a way to just populate one folder:
> /usr/ports/java/jdk13 -- is there a single command line method to do so?
> 
> Also, once make has run, are there steps to configure in my browser? Thx,
> 

You need to make a link to the jre libs. I'm not in front of my BSD box so 
I can' give you the full path, but you need to make a symbolic link in 
~/.mozilla/plugins to the library in the ns610 directory under the JRE dir 
in your jdk install. Just poke around in there, you'll find it.

JB


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Re: help with portupgrade portupgrade mess?

2002-09-30 Thread Michael Collette

A Ling wrote:
> If I'd known I'd have troubles, I'd have kept a
> careful log of which errors occured under which
> conditions.  Unfortunately, I tried what seemed
> obvious after looking at the man pages and message
> archives, so the following is a reconstruction from
> memory.
> 
> After doing 'portupgrade portupgrade', I got
>  /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:34:in `require': No such
> file to load --
> optparse (LoadError)

Personally, I wouldn't ever try to get something to try and upgrade itself.  
There is a point in the process where the script that does the installing is 
going to not be there.

Assuming you don't have Ruby installed for any other specific purpose, here's 
a somewhat cleaner way to do this.  Don't just type the following without 
FULLY considering what this will do.  This is what I do, and that's the end 
of that disclamier...

pkg_delete -rf ruby* <- [Deletes ALL of ruby, and anything that depended
 on it.]

[Now do a nice, normal port install]
cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade/
make install clean

[Once that's finished, you'll need to force an update to pkgdb]
pkgdb -fu

And that's it.  Mind you, the safer way to do this would be to only uninstall 
the Ruby components that actually require updating.


Good luck with it!
 
> After cvsup-ing ports, portsdb -uU and various
> portupgrade -r ruby portupgrade machinations, I
> started getting
> [Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg
> ... - 266
> packages found (-1 +2) (...)Cannot allocate memory:
> Cannot update the
> pkgdb!]
> 
> After searching the message archives and make
> deinstall; make clean; make reinstall of ruby* and
> portupgrade, I got memory allocation errors like this
> # pkgdb -u
> [Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg
> ... - 187 packages found (-4 +4)
> (...)/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
> `each': tried to allocate too big memory
> (NoMemoryError)
> from
> /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
> `select'
> from
> /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
> `update_db'
> from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:201:in `main'
> from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `initialize'
> from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `new'
> from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `main'
> from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:914
> 
>I also updated to the latest stable world from
> yesterday (previously from 4 August) to no avail.
> Login.conf limits are untouched by me, and the current
> 
> packages include
> # pkg_info -aI | egrep 'ruby|portup' | col1
> portupgrade-20020921.1
> ruby-1.6.7.2002.09.12
> ruby-bdb1-0.1.7
> ruby-shim-ruby18-1.7.3.2002.09.20
> 
>Anyone recognize this or have suggestions?
> 
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help with portupgrade portupgrade mess?

2002-09-30 Thread A Ling

If I'd known I'd have troubles, I'd have kept a
careful log of which errors occured under which 
conditions.  Unfortunately, I tried what seemed 
obvious after looking at the man pages and message
archives, so the following is a reconstruction from 
memory.

After doing 'portupgrade portupgrade', I got 
 /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:34:in `require': No such
file to load --
optparse (LoadError)

After cvsup-ing ports, portsdb -uU and various
portupgrade -r ruby portupgrade machinations, I
started getting
[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg
... - 266 
packages found (-1 +2) (...)Cannot allocate memory:
Cannot update the 
pkgdb!]

After searching the message archives and make
deinstall; make clean; make reinstall of ruby* and
portupgrade, I got memory allocation errors like this
# pkgdb -u
[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg
... - 187 packages found (-4 +4)
(...)/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
`each': tried to allocate too big memory
(NoMemoryError)
from
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
`select'
from
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:435:in
`update_db'
from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:201:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `initialize'
from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `new'
from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:61:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:914

   I also updated to the latest stable world from
yesterday (previously from 4 August) to no avail.  
Login.conf limits are untouched by me, and the current

packages include
# pkg_info -aI | egrep 'ruby|portup' | col1
portupgrade-20020921.1
ruby-1.6.7.2002.09.12
ruby-bdb1-0.1.7
ruby-shim-ruby18-1.7.3.2002.09.20

   Anyone recognize this or have suggestions?

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Re: How to restore getty [Solved]

2002-09-30 Thread Roger Merritt

The problem that prompted my original question was that init had stalled
during local package initialization and I couldn't use my console. I
thought the problem was with getty not opening the terminals, but when I
noticed that it stalled while running the mysql-server.sh script I recalled
that I had been trying to upgrade mysql before the machine rebooted itself.
Evidently the mangled incomplete installation of mysql-server was the real
problem. I ran portupgrade -Rr mysqlserver, this time it completed, the
system ran 'init' again and now everything is working.

Thanks to everybody who offered help. I'll try to remember what I learned
this time -- what you're looking for is always in the last place you look.
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Re: Promise FastTrak TX200/SX4000

2002-09-30 Thread Thomas Spreng

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:52:47AM -0700, OCTAVIAN HORNOIU wrote:
> Are the TX2000 and SX4000 cards supported under FreeBSD 4.62 or do I have to
> wait for the 4.7 release to purchase them?
>  
>  
> Thanks for your answers ahead of time!

Hi,

read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html about hardware notes for
different releases.

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Re: NEdit dead outta nowhere

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 12:01:19AM -0700, Michael Collette wrote:
> On Sunday 29 September 2002 07:46 pm, Weston M. Price wrote:
> > YESSS..finally someone else with the same problem I
> > have been having. Though I have not been having the problem with NEdit, I
> > have this problem with all Java related IDE's (JEdit, Eclipse, Forte etc).
> >
> > Solidarity you know.
> 
> This is starting to sound open-motif related.  For what it's worth, I'm also 
> seeing the exact same thing in JEdit.  The primary difference being, JEdit is 
> still functioning after all those errors.  NEdit is dead in the water.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=542242+545230+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-ports/20020929.freebsd-ports

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: sftp / scp not working?

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:06:05AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:46:13AM -0400, Adam Bender wrote:
> > 
> > I'm running FreeBSD 4.6.2.  I can ssh into the box fine, but sftp gives
> > this error message:
> > unix13:~/$ sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Connecting to machine.name...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> > Received message too long 1500476704
> > unix13:~/$

> Unfortunately that's not sufficient information to diagnose exactly
> what's wrong.  Could you try running your scp and sftp commands again
> with liberal use of the '-v' (verbose) flag:

Ooops. spoke (typed?) too soon.  I knew that looked familiar...  The
problem is that your shell initialization files are printing stuff out
even when you aren't logging in interactively, and that's being
misinterpreted by the scp or sftp subsystems:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=secure-shell&m=102952631227473&w=2

If you're using csh(1)/tcsh(1), there's a fairly simple cure.  You can
wrap all the stuff that only appropriate for interactive logins into
an if.. statement like so:

if ($?prompt) then
# Interactive settings go here...
set autolist
...
endif

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?

2002-09-30 Thread Socketd

>> Original Message <<

On 9/30/02, 8:10:16 AM, Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
Re: Recommend some programs for gnome + sawfish?:


> cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome-fifth-toe
> make install clean

> keep in mind that most things i list below are actually part of
> gnome-fifth-toe.

OKi

> > X-windows programs can run under gnome right? But what about kde/qt
> > programs? (only some of them or what?)

> you actually have it backwards. gnome runs under X-windows. kde/qt apps
> run under X too. independent of gnome, completely.

Let's make a layer from top to button:
Gnome/KDE
GKT/QT
Windows manager like Sawfish
X windows

Right? So qt and kde programs can't run under gnome/gkt?!?!

> > Browser (Netscape?)
> galeon

Ok, you just think it is better or is there another reason?

> > Mail/word/nntp (staroffice?)
> openoffice/AbiWord

I am just asking :-), why not Staroffice?

> > File manager?
> nautilus.

Ok, is this the most used ("default") file manager for gnome?

> > IP voice (Speak freely, isn't there a graphical one?)
> yes, but it doesn't work right under fbsd. Yet.

Ok, when will it be ready? (if you know that).

Br
socketd

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Re: sftp / scp not working?

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:46:13AM -0400, Adam Bender wrote:
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 4.6.2.  I can ssh into the box fine, but sftp gives
> this error message:
> unix13:~/$ sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Connecting to machine.name...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> Received message too long 1500476704
> unix13:~/$
> 
> and scp gives this one:
> 
> unix13:~/$ scp foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> stty: You can search for documentation on a keyword by typing
> unix13:~/$ stdin isn't a terminal
> stty: stdin isn't a terminal
> stty: stdin isn't a terminal
> stty: stdin isn't a terminal
> Write failed flushing stdout buffer.
> 
> unix13:~/$
> 
> Anybody have any idea what I can do to transfer files to/from my machine,
> besides ssh'ing into it, and the sftp'ing out?

Unfortunately that's not sufficient information to diagnose exactly
what's wrong.  Could you try running your scp and sftp commands again
with liberal use of the '-v' (verbose) flag:

sftp -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If that doesn't tell you immediately what's wrong, please cut'n'paste
the output of the command into a message to this list, plus tell us
what ssh client you're using and any modifications you've made to the
default sshd configurationon your FreeBSD box.

There's also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, which has
searchable archives available at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=secure-shell&r=1&w=2

Cheers,

Matthew

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Promise FastTrak TX200/SX4000

2002-09-30 Thread OCTAVIAN HORNOIU

Are the TX2000 and SX4000 cards supported under FreeBSD 4.62 or do I have to
wait for the 4.7 release to purchase them?
 
 
Thanks for your answers ahead of time!
 


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Re: Per directory disk quotas ...

2002-09-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:18:29AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:25 AM
> Subject: Per directory disk quotas ...
> 
> 
> : does anyone know of some way of setting a disk quota
> : onto a directory?  so  that a directory, and all
> : sub-directories/files below it cannot consume more
> : then x amount of space?
> 
> Setting permissions that alloww only a certain group of users
> to write things in that directory, and then using edquota to
> limit the quota of that group under the directory.  Let's say,
> for example, that you want to limit /mnt/foobar to 100 kbytes.
> Let's also assume that /mnt/foobar is under an /mnt mountpoint.
> 
> Create a new group called "foobar".  The name of the group
> doesn't need be the same. It might helps remembering what
> this group was created for later on though.
> 
> # groupadd foobar
> 
> Make root:foobar the owner of /mnt/foobar.
> 
> # chown -R root:foobar /mnt/foobar
> 
> Add write permission to /mnt/foobar for the group:
> 
> # chmod 0775 /mnt/foobar
> 
> Edit the "group quota" of foobar:
> 
> # edquota -g foobar -f /mnt
> 
> Done.  Don't let "*:foobar" have write access anywhere else
> under /mnt and you're set to go.  The users that belong to
> the "foobar" group will be limited under /mnt/foobar.

Quotas would work, but requires some administrative oversight by the
admin over the users to make sure that files with the group ownership
don't get created outside the specific tree or that files belonging to
other groups don't appear inside the tree.

An alternative approach would be to use vnconfig(8) to create pseudo
disks of the right size, which you can then put a filesystem onto and
mount in the correct place.  I've seen reports that this technique
works very well to limit the amount of space a jail(8) can use even if
the jail's owner has full control over the password file in it.

Cheers,

Matthew

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linux-netscape7 with java plugin?

2002-09-30 Thread cfldeneme cfldeneme

   Can't i never use linux-netscape7 with java
plugin?With linux-base6 netscape isn't running.With
linux-base7 java plugin isn't running?Isn't there a
way to solve this promlem?
Thank you.

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