Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote:
 When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9. 
 is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x.

Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came in with 5.x, so
you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release version.  
 
 Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I
 use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any
 big problems?

You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- but what would be
the point? All you get then is a machine that costs more than an
equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs worse.

Cheers,

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[Fwd: Re: no route to host - urgent problem]

2005-03-17 Thread Laszlo Zsolt Nagy

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One important remark - if you are in stress, reboot to old working 
kernel (hope that will work :-) ) and wait till evening.

Vladimir
Ok I did not delete the old kernel. Everything is fine now. Thank you 
for your help.

  Laci

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Re: flash plugin?

2005-03-17 Thread Gert Cuykens
  flash-0.9.5
  flashplugin-0.4.3
  flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12
  flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12
  flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12
  flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113
  linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2
  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2
  linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1
  linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1

How did you use grep to display this ?
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Re: DSL LAN Sharing with FreeBSD-5.3+natd+ipfw

2005-03-17 Thread Yance Kowara
I had a similar setup

http://members.iinet.net.au/~yance/pppoenat.html

in rc.conf where you put gateway_enable=YES
this will appear
00100  28  2096 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0

You can add extra ipfw config using a script similar
to mine, and in rc.conf
firewall_script=path/to/your/firewallscript

I hope it helps.

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Re: flash plugin?

2005-03-17 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:36 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   flash-0.9.5
   flashplugin-0.4.3
   flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12
   flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12
   flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12
   flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113
   linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2
   linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2
   linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1
   linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1
 
 How did you use grep to display this ?
 

never mind i thought there was some fancy grep option that scanned all ports :) 

I# ls | grep flash
dummyflash
flashplugin
flashplugin-firefox
flashplugin-mozilla
flashplugin-mozilla-devel
flashpluginwrapper
linux-flashplugin
linux-flashplugin6
linux-flashplugin7
I#
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dual boot two disk

2005-03-17 Thread Perica Veljanovski
Hi
I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I 
installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to 
sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) 
and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first 
10G. When I boot the system I get:

F1 FreeBSD   (the fbsd on ad0s1)
F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2)
F5 Other (again the fbsd)
So there is no option to boot from the second disk!?
Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he 
sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the 
mbr on ad2.

I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! 
how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot 
menu?

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nNCL:registering deferred (0)

2005-03-17 Thread Gert Cuykens
I wanted to reinstall mozilla but this time with the mail thingie enabled. 
I did make config make deinstall make reinstall but it get stuck doing
nothing at the end saying nNCL:registering deferred (0)
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Re: Serial console

2005-03-17 Thread Daniel Bye
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 02:07:07AM +0100, Emanuel Strobl wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 15. M?rz 2005 12:37 schrieb Daniel Bye:
 [...]
  The machine boots - you see the BIOS POST, the SATA controller comes up,
  then you see FreeBSD's boot messages on the console.  As soon as the
  kernel launches, we get the login: prompt and then nothing.  So, we know
  the hardware works; the problem is something I am doing with the kernel
  config.  As I said, this setup is the same as a machine running the same
  hardware, that is known to be working.
 
 If I understand it correctly you see the kernel probing, any you also see 
 that 
 a getty gets started at ttyd0 but you can't type (and see the echo) anything, 
 right?

Yes, this is the case.  We see the same lack of responsiveness to the
keyboard during the loader, as well; I guess this points to a problem
with the cabling.

 Maybe it's your terminal connection (null-modem I guess).

Sorry - yes, we are using a Cisco console server.  And thinking about it
now, I seem to recall that a few months ago we discovered one of the
lines on the octopus was dodgy.  I wonder...

 Make sure to measure 0Ohm between pin 1 and 6 (DSR-DCD) on the DTE (computer).
 That's my only guess. Everything elese seems to be fine...

Thanks for the nudge.

Dan

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problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Hi list,
my computer is not part of a domain, and so I had set my hostname to
old_hostname.
Now I changed it in rc.conf to new_hostname:

~ cat /etc/rc.conf | grep hostname
hostname=new_hostname
~ 

I rebooted, but my pc is still somewhere configured to be called old_hostname.
First of all, when the pc boots, I see this in dmesg:

FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar  9 15:40:46 UTC 2005
my_name@old_hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR

Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my
/var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start:

[Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(old_hostname)


My question is: how can I change my hostname to new_hostname safely,
in a way that the old_hostname is not used anymore in any part of
the OS?

Thank you!



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Re: Ports and Packages: Updating problems

2005-03-17 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:30:04 -0800
Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do I need to cvsup again and try the above 4 programs again? or do I
 need to capture the text where they bomb and submit to the ports'
 responsible person?

Gerry, give portmanager a try.  It should straighten out the 
dependencies for you and rebuild everthing via ports.

 Hi Mike. I've seen you promoting portmanager and it looks like a fine
product! Keep up the good work.

 After letting portmanager loose overnight, it came up with this summary:

status report finished

percentDone-=35 = 100 - ( 100 * ( QTY_outOfDatePortsDb-=11 /
TOTAL_outOfDatePortsDb-=17 ) ) upgrade 0.2.9_3 info: ignoring
arts-1.3.2,1, reason: failed during (2) make checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3
skip: kdelibs-3.3.2_2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be
updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip:
kdemultimedia-mpeglib_artsplug-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that
needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip:
kdegames-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated
first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdeedu-3.3.2 has a dependency
arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3
skip: kdeartwork-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be
updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: koffice-1.3.5_1,1 has a
dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first
checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdebase-3.3.2 has a dependency
arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first upgrade 0.2.9_3 info: ignoring
gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0, reason: failed during (2) make checkForOldDepencies
0.2.9_3 skip: kdepim-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be
updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdemultimedia-3.3.2 has a
dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first

update of ports collection complete with either some errors, ignored ports
or both
 

That's interesting, as there are now 11 ports that needs updating and I
started out with 6. I assume it's corrected some versions of packages that
installed complaining version B of X was installed when I had A?

But it seems my biggest headache is getting arts to compile and install so
the remaining ports can update afterwards. I'll go concentrate on that
port specifically and then run portmanager again after I'm successful with
arts [which could be today, tomorrow, next week, next month]. 

Regards,
-gerry
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How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
Hi,

I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.

My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)

Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?

Soo-Hyun
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Re: Who is using ACLs in production?

2005-03-17 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:06PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski typed:
 Anyone using ACLs in production on FreeBSD 5.x?  If so, how do you use
 them, and what are your impressions?  How do they affect performance,
 how reliable is the code, does it really help security, etc.?

I installed many samba servers in small-to-medium sized offices. All have
ACL's enabled and there have been no complaints about performance or
stability. Which is understandable, regarding the fact these samba servers
where mostly replacing NT or w2k fileservers on the same or equivalant
hardware.
Improved security I don't know. It does emulate windows' file permission
quite nicely though.

Ruben

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Mounting DVD

2005-03-17 Thread popbox
Russian (KOI8-R)
.
  man,  FreeBSD  
 DVD. CD  .
,  :
1) #mount /cdrom
 cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument

2) #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
 mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument

 : FreeBSD 4.10
 ATAPI/CAM,DMA   
 ATAPI, 
  (DVD)  FreeBSD.

dmesg : acd0: DVD-ROM TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1912 at ata1-master UDMA33

FreeBSD 
LinuxCenter.ru,Windows 98.

English
Hello.
There is no separated information about mounting DVD in manual man, FreeBSD 
Handbook and other documentation. Mounting it such as CD not gives result.
For example, my variant:
1) #mount /cdrom
 cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument

2) #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument

My OS: FreeBSD 4.10
I compiled kernel with ATAPI/CAM support, and added DMA access for ATAPI 
devices, as it recommended in section Creating and Using Optical Media (DVDs) 
of FreeBSD Handbook.

dmesg output: acd0: DVD-ROM TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1912 at ata1-master UDMA33

There is FreeBSD ports collection on the disks, from your russian diller 
LinuxCenter.ru. Discs are valid and works under Windows 98. 
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Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-17 Thread Stas Myasnikov
Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:33 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ():

When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9. 
is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x.
AFAIK FreeBSD4 isn't run on amd64 in 64-bit mode. Though 5 do.
Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I
Yes. Opteron backwards compatible with ia32.
use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any
Hmm... Intel making Opteron's?
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Re: dual boot two disk

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hi
 
 I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I 
 installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to 
 sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) 
 and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first 
 10G. When I boot the system I get:
 
 F1 FreeBSD   (the fbsd on ad0s1)
 F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2)
 F5 Other (again the fbsd)
 
 So there is no option to boot from the second disk!?
 Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he 
 sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the 
 mbr on ad2.

Hmmm.   I am not exactly clear from your description, but...

I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with
a new menu that included the ad2 disk.Maybe that disk does not
really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of 
the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]).   I believe 
each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors)
also needs to have an MBR for it to work right.   If you are brave, 
try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well.   I don't think 
that would mess up anything and might be what is missing.

Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2

I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0.
You may have to check that.

jerry

 
 I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! 
 how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot 
 menu?

I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically 
the same for what you are trying to do here.

Something like: boot0cfg  -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2

You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever
was in the sector0 before the command.  You can put it back if you need.

You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf  depending
on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable.   I think it
is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those.

You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more
stuff when it runs.  

You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 
as well.

By the way, what happened to ad1?   (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI
so, I am not up on its device naming schemes)

Good luck,

jerry

 
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Re: Mounting DVD

2005-03-17 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:26:30 +0300, popbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 English
 Hello.

Hello,

 There is no separated information about mounting DVD in manual man, FreeBSD 
 Handbook and other documentation. Mounting it such as CD not gives result.

I don't know if there are any differences between FBSD-4.10 and
FBSD-5.4-PRE regarding this, but:

# mount /cdrom/
# ls /cdrom/
audio_tsvideo_ts

and

# cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom
/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660 
ro,noauto   0   0


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Re: Mucking with other drive

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop Pentium 3 1ghrtz 
 with 512mb ram.  I recently dusted off a old hard drive that contains a whole 
 2 gigs of hard drive space.  I have installed the hard disk drive and am 
 wanting to install FreeBsd on it.  Before I go about mucking things up, I 
 just wanted to make sure that when I go to install FreeBsd it will not mess 
 up the existing hard drive.  I have business and payroll progs on it.  I am 
 also wondering if when installing there is an actual question asked by the 
 installation prog for destination.  Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and 
 I swear I read through your installation info until my eyes dried out and 
 couldn't find the answers, so that is why I am bothering you.  I did try to 
 find the answer first.  Anyways any help would be cool as I would really like 
 to start relearning another operating system.

If you do the install on the new old drive, it will not muck with
the MS drive other than to write the MBR to make it know how to
boot the FreeBSd drive.

Now, of course, you could squeeze the MS junk down and install FreeBSD
in a separate slice on the same drive as the MS junk.   But, that is
a different story.

jerry

 
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:58 am, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.

 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)

 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?

 Soo-Hyun

The work areas are probably whats killing you. I don't know how you can 
manage them with the  upgrade shell script, you will have to look 
through the script to determine that.  Somehow or another you need to
make sure after each port is updated its work area is being cleaned 
before moving on to the next port.  

One thing you may want to consider is setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp 
in /etc/make.conf this way you can monitor the size of /tmp with du and 
then maybe manually delete the work areas of ports you are certain have 
been updated.

-Mike
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Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system?

2005-03-17 Thread Gerry Freymann
I've been using Sharity Light to access open shares on my Windoze machine
from FreeBSD.

But somewhere along the line I know this is now built-in to FreeBSD but I
can't remember or find what program to use to do this and I would prefer
not to rely on a port to make this happen.

Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use?

Thanks.
-gerry
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Re: Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system?

2005-03-17 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:51 am, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 I've been using Sharity Light to access open shares on my Windoze
 machine from FreeBSD.

 But somewhere along the line I know this is now built-in to FreeBSD
 but I can't remember or find what program to use to do this and I
 would prefer not to rely on a port to make this happen.

 Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use?

 Thanks.
 -gerry


I think you're looking for smbfs.  I tried it long time ago; but went 
back to Sharity Light.

Best regards,

Andrew
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Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-17 Thread Boris Spirialitious

--- Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris
 Spirialitious wrote:
  When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have
 4.9. 
  is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x.
 
 Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came
 in with 5.x, so
 you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release
 version.  
  
  Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I
  use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any
  big problems?
 
 You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode --
 but what would be
 the point? All you get then is a machine that costs
 more than an
 equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs
 worse.

That is very curious to say. Isn't the advantage
of Opteron the superior IO architecture? There is
not much advantage with 64 bit computing. What is
faster about it? Pointers are bigger, so it use
more cache for less. NOt much 64bit math in
OS. Why do you say it will perform worse?

Boris



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Re: problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On 17 Mar 2005 09:57:26 -0500, Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi list,
  my computer is not part of a domain, and so I had set my hostname to
  old_hostname.
  Now I changed it in rc.conf to new_hostname:
 
  ~ cat /etc/rc.conf | grep hostname
  hostname=new_hostname
  ~
 
  I rebooted, but my pc is still somewhere configured to be called 
  old_hostname.
  First of all, when the pc boots, I see this in dmesg:
 
  FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar  9 15:40:46 UTC 2005
  my_name@old_hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR
 
 That's not a problem; all it means is that's who built the kernel.  It
 doesn't get used for *anything* other than printing that message.
 
  Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my
  /var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start:
 
  [Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
  gethostbyname(old_hostname)
 
 You must have put the old hostname into Apache's configuration
 explicitly.  You will need to change it by hand.  The configuration
 file is (by default, as installed from the port)
 /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf.

No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't
find anything concerning my old_hostname.

I even deinstalled  deleted the configuration files  reinstalled apache.

Don't forget this:
FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar  9 15:40:46 UTC 2005
my_name@old_hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR

Here I have my old_hostname too.

 
 
  My question is: how can I change my hostname to new_hostname safely,
  in a way that the old_hostname is not used anymore in any part of
  the OS?
 
 Changing rc.conf is enough for anything that was configured
 automatically. 

It should be so, but it actually isn't.

If you changed some other configuration by hand, you
 will need to change it again by hand.  Note that if you had not added
 your hostname to httpd.conf, Apache would have used the system
 hostname by default (I believe; I haven't actually checked this
 recently).

I'm sure I didn't set my old_hostname anywhere else than in rc.conf

 
 Be well.
 

However, thank you for your advice, but it didn't solve my problem...


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Re: dual boot two disk

2005-03-17 Thread Perica Veljanovski
Jerry McAllister wrote:
Hi
I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I 
installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to 
sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) 
and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first 
10G. When I boot the system I get:

F1 FreeBSD   (the fbsd on ad0s1)
F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2)
F5 Other (again the fbsd)
So there is no option to boot from the second disk!?
Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he 
sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the 
mbr on ad2.
   

Hmmm.   I am not exactly clear from your description, but...
I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with
a new menu that included the ad2 disk.Maybe that disk does not
really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of 
the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]).   I believe 
each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors)
also needs to have an MBR for it to work right.   If you are brave, 
try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well.   I don't think 
that would mess up anything and might be what is missing.

Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2
I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0.
You may have to check that.
jerry
 

That's what I thought. F5 should move on to the next disk, or more 
precise the next disk's mbr. But it does not.
Anyways, the second disk has a MBR on it. As I said, when I unplug the 
fist dis and boot the box with the old disk (second disk) only, I get a 
normal boot menu from Widows XP (which has it's own boot loader = WinXP 
and Win2k Pro). So the problem is not that the second disk has bad or no 
MBR, rather that FreeBSD's boot manager boot0 doesn't give me a chance 
to boot from the second disk.

I thought about overwriting the mbr on the second disk (ad2), but I 
don't feel very brave :P I think that will most defenetly remove WinXP 
boot manager and probably remove some partitioning info, thus I'll loose 
the data. And since I'm not familiar with WinXP boot process, and don't 
know if FreeBSD's boot manager will pick up where WinXP/MBR left off, I 
rather not do that without any assurance.

I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! 
how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot 
menu?
   

I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically 
the same for what you are trying to do here.

Something like: boot0cfg  -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2
You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever
was in the sector0 before the command.  You can put it back if you need.
You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf  depending
on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable.   I think it
is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those.
You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more
stuff when it runs.  

You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 
as well.

 

I got that part :P What I didn't understand is how the hell I'm I 
suppose to let him know about the other disk :)

By the way, what happened to ad1?   (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI
so, I am not up on its device naming schemes)
Good luck,
jerry
 

BIOS names disks as hdN, and bsd as adN (as you already know). The main 
difference is that BIOS just increments N for the next disk (example: 
pri/master=hd0, pri/slave=cdrom, sec/master=hd1) and fbsd decides N by 
IDE position (example: pri/master=ad0, pri/slave=acd0, sec/master=ad2)

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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread RW
On Sunday 13 March 2005 15:47, Luyt wrote:
 On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
  2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world

 What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin?

   http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png

LOL, that would make a great FreeBSD inside sticker
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Re: Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system?

2005-03-17 Thread Gerry Freymann
On 17 Mar 2005 09:53:03 -0500
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use?

mount_smbfs(8)

 Beauties! Exactly what I was after. Got it mounted and working fine.

-gerry
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
 hello

 i find that loader prompt very frustrating:

 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional
 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world
 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it,
they laugh and go:

is THAT your supersystem? blah

 somebody please tell me, how do i remove it?
 i don't want anything to do with it.

 thanks,
 -- fafa

Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS.  Try 
out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly PC.

-Mike
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread RacerX
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
hello
i find that loader prompt very frustrating:
1. it is *VERY* unprofessional
As opposed to? The multi-colored Windows? The Penguin? The Blowfish?
2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world
I highly doubt that one...
3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it,
   they laugh and go:
   is THAT your supersystem? blah
Then change your friends... Seems like they may be a bit on the immature 
side.


somebody please tell me, how do i remove it?
i don't want anything to do with it.
thanks,
-- fafa
Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS.  Try
out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly PC.
-Mike

Either that or wait till 5.4 is out. I'm somewhat certain that the lil guy 
isnt in 6.0, and it may not be in 5.4

Just my few pennies woith
Best regards,
Chris
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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
 Shultz
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:21 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt



 Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS.  Try
 out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly PC.


Mike, he said he didn't want to invite Evil into his world...

Ted

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RE: problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:05 AM
 To: Lowell Gilbert
 Cc: FreeBSD
 Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change

 No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't
 find anything concerning my old_hostname.


When apache starts up if it don't have your hostname set in it's
config file then it issues a system call asking what
the hostname for the IP address is that is on your host.

whatever it gets back it then uses to setup a default website.  If you
change the name of your host in /etc.rc.conf then it better also
have been changed in any DNS servers that your system is using.


 I'm sure I didn't set my old_hostname anywhere else than in rc.conf


Did you check /etc/hosts


Ted

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Kylix or libborqt

2005-03-17 Thread John
Hey, folks!

At long last, I have found an Open Source data modelling tool!  It
is DBDesigner by fabFORCE.net (http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/)
and it is pretty nice.  I was able to connect to my MySQL database
and suck in the entire schema!  It didn't do the full E-R diagram
because there wasn't enough information in the DD/DL, but it was
a HUGE start.  Unfortunately, I know that from running it under
Windoze

My problem is that, of course, it is only compiled for MS-Windows
and Linux.  That's OK, I have Linux compatibility installed so that
I can run acroread.  What makes matters worse is that it was built
using something called Kylix by Borland (http://www.borland.com/kylix/).
As such, it depends on a library called libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so.

I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux applications on FreeBSD.  I got
acroread running because the packages did everything for me.  So...
1) Do I need a Linux libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so, or a FreeBSD one?
2) Should I forget trying to run the darn thing in Linux mode
   and try to port it to FreeBSD, since it is open source?
The biggest problem with porting it would probably be Kylix
itself, which, while GPL, I haven't found the source.  It must
be quit extensive, because the download is 90.7 Mb and includes
two high-performance C++ compilers.  The Windows version came with
whatever DLLs it needed, so I suspect you don't really have to
go THAT far.

I could use some advice, here.  My goal is to get my database application
up and running with some new features, and it has grown to the point
that having a data modelling tool would be a tremendous help.  On
the other hand, I HATE having to use Windows to do it, and the irony
of using a Windows application to develop a MySQl application is
not lost on me.  I would also like to see as many native FreeBSD
ports as possible.

I am standing at a fork in the road, but this fork has MANY tines.
Anyone who can help me eliminate some of the choices, or even
CLARIFY some of the choices, would be doing me a great service.

Thank you!

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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:31 am, you wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
  hello
 
  i find that loader prompt very frustrating:
 
  1. it is *VERY* unprofessional

 As opposed to? The multi-colored Windows? The Penguin? The Blowfish?

  2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world

 I highly doubt that one...

  3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it,
 they laugh and go:
 
 is THAT your supersystem? blah

 Then change your friends... Seems like they may be a bit on the
 immature side.

  somebody please tell me, how do i remove it?
  i don't want anything to do with it.
 
  thanks,
  -- fafa
 
  Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS. 
  Try out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly PC.
 
  -Mike

 Either that or wait till 5.4 is out. I'm somewhat certain that the
 lil guy isnt in 6.0, and it may not be in 5.4

 Just my few pennies woith

 Best regards,

 Chris

adding my $0.02 to the pot

I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
stick by it seams unwise.

-Mike
 


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Re: problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:38:49 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:05 AM
  To: Lowell Gilbert
  Cc: FreeBSD
  Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change
 
  No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't
  find anything concerning my old_hostname.
 
 
 When apache starts up if it don't have your hostname set in it's
 config file then it issues a system call asking what
 the hostname for the IP address is that is on your host.
 
 whatever it gets back it then uses to setup a default website.  If you
 change the name of your host in /etc.rc.conf then it better also
 have been changed in any DNS servers that your system is using.
 
 
  I'm sure I didn't set my old_hostname anywhere else than in rc.conf
 
 
 Did you check /etc/hosts
 
 
 Ted
 
 


Thanks Ted, Neo-Vortex and Eric.

nothing found with grep on /etc/* , /usr/local/etc* , /var/named/*
but I found this:

# grep old_hostname /var/*
Binary file /var/db matches
Binary file /var/mysql matches
Binary file /var/restoresymtable matches
#

Well I double check once more on my system!

Thank you!

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Re: sshd behaviour

2005-03-17 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:04:48PM +0300, Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:00:44AM -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
  
  As another poster mentioned, the problem is likely related to DNS, and I
  have experienced it as well.  If you are using Privilege Separation,
  then an sshd process will chroot itself into /var/empty before
  performing authentication.  /var/empty is itself usually empty.  One
  thing you can do is to make the dir /var/empty/etc and then drop a copy
  of your /etc/hosts file into the newly created /var/empty/etc/
  directory.  You might want to make sure that the hosts file contains a
  mapping to the LAN machines which you want to ssh from.
  
  Keep in mind that /var/empty has the schg flag set, so you won't be able
  to copy anything to it without disabling this first.  See more at `man
  chflags`.  Try something like this:
  
  # chflags -R noschg /var/empty
  # mkdir /var/empty/etc
  # cp /etc/hosts /var/empty/etc
  # chflags -R schg /var/empty
  
  This will likely clear up your problem.
  
  Nathan
 
 Thank you, Nathan. Can I put soft link into /var/empty/etc (this
 is crossdevice link, and I can't put hard link in it)? And does I
 realy need -R key in last command which you recomended? This mean
 that directory /var/empty/etc has schg flag too. Is it nessesery?

From `man sshd`:

/var/empty
chroot(2) directory used by sshd during privilege separation in the
pre-authentication phase.  The directory should not contain any files
and must be owned by root and not group or world-writable.

I assume you can follow these rules.  The noschg flags may be something
that the FreeBSD developers decided to do for added security, and I
don't see any practical reason to alter it.  Regarding soft/hard links
in the chrooted dir, I don't know if that would work.  I suspect no, as
it would somewhat defeat the purpose of the chroot.  Cross-device link
error: hard links will only work within a single filesystem, not across
multiple filesystems.

Nathan


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RE: Mucking with other drive

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Jerry,

Well, of course it's going to muck with the other drive what
do you think writing the MBR does?  Do you want to risk the MS system
not booting?  95% of the time it will work OK but what if her system
is in that 5% of the time that it doesen't?  You going to go
over to her house and fix it?  What if she's got some nutty drive
program on there like diskmanager that neither of you know about that
is already on the mbr?

Carrie,

PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C.  If you install this
other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going
to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots
it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system
off drive D.

You need to leave well enough alone.  You can pick up older PC's for a
song
these days.  If you have critical data on your Dell then don't
screw with it.  Find some other PC that someone's going to throw away
and load FreeBSD on that.  You don't even need a monitor for it, you
can telnet/ssh into it from your Dell system easily.

Dual-boot systems never work anyway.  The operator always ends up
spending 99% of their time in one operating system.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
 McAllister
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:24 AM
 To: CARRIE WUERFEL
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive


 
  I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop
 Pentium 3 1ghrtz with 512mb ram.  I recently dusted off a old
 hard drive that contains a whole 2 gigs of hard drive space.
 I have installed the hard disk drive and am wanting to install
 FreeBsd on it.  Before I go about mucking things up, I just
 wanted to make sure that when I go to install FreeBsd it will
 not mess up the existing hard drive.  I have business and
 payroll progs on it.  I am also wondering if when installing
 there is an actual question asked by the installation prog for
 destination.  Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and I
 swear I read through your installation info until my eyes
 dried out and couldn't find the answers, so that is why I am
 bothering you.  I did try to find the answer first.  Anyways
 any help would be cool as I would really like to start
 relearning another operating system.

 If you do the install on the new old drive, it will not muck with
 the MS drive other than to write the MBR to make it know how to
 boot the FreeBSd drive.

 Now, of course, you could squeeze the MS junk down and install FreeBSD
 in a separate slice on the same drive as the MS junk.   But, that is
 a different story.

 jerry

 
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Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question

2005-03-17 Thread RW
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:05, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- but what would be
 the point? All you get then is a machine that costs more than an
 equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs worse.

The core market for the AMD64 is 32-bit Windows XP desktop machines, and they 
are good value in that role. 

When I recently upgraded my PC, I noticed that a lot of retailers no-longer 
even have 32-bit AMD CPUs, except for low-speed Semperons.
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Re: problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread José Nicolás Castellano
Pietro Cerutti wrote:
FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar  9 15:40:46 UTC 2005
   my_name@old_hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR
 

This is the name of name and hostname who compiles  FreeBSD 
5.4-PRERELEASE #10 Kernel

Don't Worry about this.
Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my
/var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start:
[Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
gethostbyname(old_hostname)
 

/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf : modify Servername clause to your 
hostname to fix this error

My question is: how can I change my hostname to new_hostname safely,
in a way that the old_hostname is not used anymore in any part of
the OS?
 

/etc/rc.conf : add line : hostname=your_hostname
Simply
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SMART and bad block list?

2005-03-17 Thread David Kelly
On SCSI drives one could look at the bad block lists to see if it was
growing to know if a drive was getting sick. In the wee hours of the
morning one of my Hitachi HDS722516VLSA80's got sick:

Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=282857146
Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out
Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: subdisk vinum0.p0.s0 state change: 
up - down
Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: plex vinum0.p0 state change: up - 
down

atacontrol info says SMART is enabled. So what does this do for me?
Has the drive exhausted its supply spare blocks and can no longer repair
itself?

While we are at it, the size of an LBA is 512 bytes? Putting the
problem block above at about 144G?

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Problems : make buildworld or make -DNOCLEAN buildworld

2005-03-17 Thread José Nicolás Castellano
Hi,
I update to the last cvs RELENG_5_3 and i tryed to:
/usr/src# make buildworld
and
/usr/src# make -DNOCLEAN buildworld
and...
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libtxi
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/infokey
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/texindex
=== gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc
=== rescue
cd: can't cd to /usr/src/rescue
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
What's wrong?
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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
 Shultz
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM
 To: RacerX
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
 
 
 adding my $0.02 to the pot
 
 I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
 to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
 AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
 stick by it seams unwise.
 

It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core
members that have sticks up their ass about this issue.  The rest
of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor
on this issue.

The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to
bother to spend time on a logo change or not?  If the 1 or 2 core
members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably isn't
going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work to do
this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents.

What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the
new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and
your going to see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply
present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at
all.  Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that
GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron.

Ted
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Re: Mucking with other drive

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Jerry,
 
 Well, of course it's going to muck with the other drive what
 do you think writing the MBR does?  Do you want to risk the MS system
 not booting?  95% of the time it will work OK but what if her system
 is in that 5% of the time that it doesen't?  You going to go
 over to her house and fix it?  What if she's got some nutty drive
 program on there like diskmanager that neither of you know about that
 is already on the mbr?

Well, that is true.   That is what I said - except for writing the MBR,
which is mucking with that other drive, but not installing other stuff
over the top of things.   I don't know about those percentages.  I have 
never run in to that situation and had it fail.  Make sure you copy all 
impossible to replace files before doing anything like that anyway.
So, where does Carrie live?   Can I drive there?

 Carrie,
 
 PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C.  If you install this
 other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going
 to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots
 it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system
 off drive D.

Yup.

 You need to leave well enough alone.  You can pick up older PC's for a
 song
 these days.  If you have critical data on your Dell then don't
 screw with it.  Find some other PC that someone's going to throw away
 and load FreeBSD on that.  You don't even need a monitor for it, you
 can telnet/ssh into it from your Dell system easily.

Sure, if you have that opportunity.But, I'd rather reboot and
have use of a decently fast recent machine than consign myself to
an old slow clunker for one or the other systems.

 
 Dual-boot systems never work anyway.  The operator always ends up
 spending 99% of their time in one operating system.

Well, if you get used to FreeBSD, probably you will stick with
that most of the time to get any work done.   But, I find on 
this machine, I use both of the OSen pretty much every day.
That is mostly because I have to interact with people who need
things in MS.
But, dual boot does work and work quite well, actually.

jerry

 
 Ted
 
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
adding my $0.02 to the pot
I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
stick by it seams unwise.
-Mike
 

For what values of it?  FreeBSD is an operating system,
not a logo.  Most people's decision to use the OS aren't
based on its mascot, I would hope.
FBSD has close ties with the Beastie artwork, to be sure; but
saying that the designers won't stick by it when referring
to artwork (rather than a work of art  --- that is, the system itself)
is a emotionally biased statement.  Not that such is inappropriate,
but to contend that FreeBSD isn't worthy to use because of
contention over marketing type issues also *seems* unwise
KDK
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
Hi,
I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
Soo-Hyun
 

Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?
Could you show us the output of df, the output of
cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
warning message you refer to?
Kevin Kinsey
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RE: problem due to hostname change

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM
 To: FreeBSD; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change



 Well I double check once more on my system!


Unless your system is the dns server you need to do as I suggested and
fix the DNS!!

Ted

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Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another

2005-03-17 Thread John A.
The system uses a standard installation.  I have only configured the
ethernet card with the proper ip address for the wireless side of the
network.  The windoze box is running M$ firewall, but it works fine
and allows me to ping my gateway and the FBSD box.  What concerns me
at this point is the fact that tcpdump takes so long to respond.  If I
let it run, it will display a packet about one every 2 min.  They seem
to be in time order with timestamps only ms apart.

Let me know if any other information will help.

John A.



On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:16:51 +0200, abu khaled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well I am sure some one well help you if you provide more information
 about your network configuration/firewall rules,etc...
 
 Do you have a firewall configured on the freebsd box/M$windoze?
 
 --
 Kind regards
 Abu Khaled

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Re: dual boot two disk

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I 
 installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to 
 sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) 
 and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first 
 10G. When I boot the system I get:
 
 F1 FreeBSD   (the fbsd on ad0s1)
 F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2)
 F5 Other (again the fbsd)
 
 So there is no option to boot from the second disk!?
 Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he 
 sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the 
 mbr on ad2.
 
 Hmmm.   I am not exactly clear from your description, but...
 
 I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with
 a new menu that included the ad2 disk.Maybe that disk does not
 really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of 
 the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]).   I believe 
 each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors)
 also needs to have an MBR for it to work right.   If you are brave, 
 try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well.   I don't think 
 that would mess up anything and might be what is missing.
 
 Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2
 
 I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0.
 You may have to check that.
 
 jerry
 
 That's what I thought. F5 should move on to the next disk, or more 
 precise the next disk's mbr. But it does not.
 Anyways, the second disk has a MBR on it. As I said, when I unplug the 
 fist dis and boot the box with the old disk (second disk) only, I get a 
 normal boot menu from Widows XP (which has it's own boot loader = WinXP 
 and Win2k Pro). So the problem is not that the second disk has bad or no 
 MBR, rather that FreeBSD's boot manager boot0 doesn't give me a chance 
 to boot from the second disk.
 
 I thought about overwriting the mbr on the second disk (ad2), but I 
 don't feel very brave :P I think that will most defenetly remove WinXP 
 boot manager and probably remove some partitioning info, thus I'll loose 
 the data. And since I'm not familiar with WinXP boot process, and don't 
 know if FreeBSD's boot manager will pick up where WinXP/MBR left off, I 
 rather not do that without any assurance.

I think it would be OK.   I don't think it will change the slicing info 
unless you tell it to.  On any multi boot installs I have done, it has 
been smart enough to only change what it needed.  
But, it's your machine - doesn't harm me if it screws up, so...   
so it is up to you.Ted M seems to think there are some situations
in which rewriting the MBR can screw things up.  I haven't run in to
one yet, but probably he knows of more such situations that I do.

 
 I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! 
 how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot 
 menu?
 
 I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically 
 the same for what you are trying to do here.
 
 Something like: boot0cfg  -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2
 
 You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever
 was in the sector0 before the command.  You can put it back if you need.
 
 You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf  depending
 on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable.   I think it
 is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those.
 
 You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more
 stuff when it runs.  
 
 You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 
 as well.
 
 I got that part :P What I didn't understand is how the hell I'm I 
 suppose to let him know about the other disk :)

I think it is supposed to figure it out itself by looking at which slices
are marked active - eg bootable.   The -m 0x3  etc marks them active.
You can also tell it which is the default one or the active slices
to boot from.   If you have the -o packet option set, then it will
automatically set the default to whatever you select and the next time
that will be it if you don't select anything else in the time allowed
(set by -t ticks).
 
 By the way, what happened to ad1?   (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI
 so, I am not up on its device naming schemes)
 
 Good luck,
 
 jerry
 
 BIOS names disks as hdN, and bsd as adN (as you already know). The main 
 difference is that BIOS just increments N for the next disk (example: 
 pri/master=hd0, pri/slave=cdrom, sec/master=hd1) and fbsd decides N by 
 IDE position (example: pri/master=ad0, pri/slave=acd0, sec/master=ad2)

Sort of what I guessed.

jerry

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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote:
 Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 adding my $0.02 to the pot
 
 I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
 to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
 AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
 stick by it seams unwise.
 
 -Mike

 For what values of it?  FreeBSD is an operating system,
 not a logo.  Most people's decision to use the OS aren't
 based on its mascot, I would hope.

If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? FreeBSD
started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my opinion.  If 
someone comes up with a better looking beastie that is fine,
to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few people are offended
shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 diversity.

If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because 
that number offends some people.  While your at it please remove 
gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study 
software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no 
need to risk offending.   What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also 
piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case.  Now the Arabic fonts need 
tossing tool,  just to be fair.

-Mike



 FBSD has close ties with the Beastie artwork, to be sure; but
 saying that the designers won't stick by it when referring
 to artwork (rather than a work of art  --- that is, the system
 itself) is a emotionally biased statement.  Not that such is
 inappropriate, but to contend that FreeBSD isn't worthy to use
 because of
 contention over marketing type issues also *seems* unwise

 KDK
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
  Shultz
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM
  To: RacerX
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
 
 
  adding my $0.02 to the pot
 
  I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
  to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
  AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
  stick by it seams unwise.

 It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core
 members that have sticks up their ass about this issue.  The rest
 of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor
 on this issue.

 The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to
 bother to spend time on a logo change or not?  If the 1 or 2 core
 members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably
 isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work
 to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents.

 What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
 logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the
 new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and
 your going to see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply
 present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at
 all.  Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that
 GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron.

 Ted

We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to take pride 
in anything, and it shows.

-Mike


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Re: pf seems to start late?

2005-03-17 Thread Jeff Penn
Volodymyr Kostyrko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Shouldn't PF start right after the interfaces come up? [...]

Guys, didn't you forgot that pf sometimes uses resolver to lookup 
 hostnames present in pf.conf? What happens if it should resole hostnames 
 with local named?

I noticed that openbsd does a two-stage startup if pf is enabled.
Rc initially defines rules for lo0,  ssh/dns/icmp/ etc from any
to any (also NFS if enabled).  After the network is started these rules
are replaced by loading pf.conf.

Jeff

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Re: SMART and bad block list?

2005-03-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 17), David Kelly said:
 On SCSI drives one could look at the bad block lists to see if it was
 growing to know if a drive was getting sick. In the wee hours of the
 morning one of my Hitachi HDS722516VLSA80's got sick:
 
 Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
 left) LBA=282857146
 Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out
 Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: subdisk vinum0.p0.s0 state change: 
 up - down
 Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: plex vinum0.p0 state change: up - 
 down
 
 atacontrol info says SMART is enabled. So what does this do for me?
 Has the drive exhausted its supply spare blocks and can no longer
 repair itself?

Try the smartmontools port.  I don't think it can read the bad-block
list from ATA disks, but it will give you an errors detected/corrected
summary.

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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread RW
On Thursday 17 March 2005 16:16, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
 
 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
 
 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
 
 Soo-Hyun

 Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?

 Could you show us the output of df, the output of
 cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
 warning message you refer to?

And take a look at

du -hs /usr/ports/distfiles/ /usr/ports/packages

You shouldn't really need any packages. And you can manage distfiles with 
portsclean (installed with portupgrade). 

Left unmanaged they can quickly mount up to several GB. A full set of 
up-to-date files for a desktop machine should take up about a 1 GB. 
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote:
  Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  adding my $0.02 to the pot
  
  I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
  to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
  AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
  stick by it seams unwise.
  
  -Mike
 
  For what values of it?  FreeBSD is an operating system,
  not a logo.  Most people's decision to use the OS aren't
  based on its mascot, I would hope.
 
 If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? FreeBSD
 started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my opinion.  If 
 someone comes up with a better looking beastie that is fine,
 to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few people are offended
 shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 diversity.
 
 If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because 
 that number offends some people.  While your at it please remove 
 gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study 
 software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no 
 need to risk offending.   What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also 
 piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case.  Now the Arabic fonts need 
 tossing tool,  just to be fair.
 
 -Mike

Oh, quit your whining.   The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away.
It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used
it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it.   

Since Kirk is very generous in his copyright terms (note, it is not 
owned by FreeBSD), people who enjoy it will continue to use it and 
make variations on it and have fun with it.   People who enjoy whining 
about it will continue to enjoy whining about it.   Such fun.

There is nothing official about Beastie except that Kirk officially 
owns the copyright.   You are making more of a religious issue out of 
it than even the flaming right wing fundamentalists.

If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a 
good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they 
will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD.   So what.   Gee,
maybe Kirk McKusick will design it.Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo
so the mascot isn't threatened.   

jerry

 
  KDK
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:43 am, you wrote:
  On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote:
   Michael C. Shultz wrote:
   adding my $0.02 to the pot
   
   I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
   to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
   AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
   stick by it seams unwise.
   
   -Mike
  
   For what values of it?  FreeBSD is an operating system,
   not a logo.  Most people's decision to use the OS aren't
   based on its mascot, I would hope.
 
  If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist?
  FreeBSD started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my
  opinion.  If someone comes up with a better looking beastie that
  is fine, to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few
  people are offended shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0
  diversity.
 
  If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666
  because that number offends some people.  While your at it please
  remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have
  bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross
  is illegal, no need to risk offending.   What about the hewbrew
  fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case.  Now
  the Arabic fonts need tossing tool,  just to be fair.
 
  -Mike

 Oh, quit your whining.

You call it whining when I state a position that is contrary to your 
own?  Be brave, make a counter point.  People with no original ideas of 
their own result to insults. Surely you can rise above this sort of 
statement.

[snipped the rest, after reading the insult lost interest in the 
remainer of your reply]

-Mike

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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Thompson, Jimi
 
SNIP

 What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent logo

 out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new logo

 used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going to

 see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply present more 
 confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all.  Most 
 likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for example 
 uses multiple brands for the same iron.
/SNIP

Personally, I find the suggestion that we remove the daemon as the logo
to be religiously offensive.  The gods of the old religion always become
the evil of the new religion.  If you're so worried about formulating a
poltically correct response to the daemon, the be concerned about the
politicial correctness of violing MY religious freedom.  

Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing
religious references UNTIL the point at which you go to remove
references to their religion.  If the logo was a cross, the christians
would be irate about having it removed.  If the logo was star of david,
the jews would be irate about having it removed.  If the logo was
cresent moon, the islamic element would be irate about having it
removed.  However, each group would rejoice if another group's icon was
removed as the logo.  

People's arugments about what name you should call your god are the
poorest excuse I've ever seen for most of the ills that befall humanity.
Any right thinking individual realizes that 1) not everyone is going to
agree with you and 2) true conversion does not come with the use of
force.  If your version of god is so totally awesome and your faith is
so great in what you believe and you aren't afraid of being converted,
why do you feel the need to try to supress everyone else?

Now, from a marketing perspective, FreeBSD could do worse than Beastie.
The fact that he is some what controversial generates a significant
amount of publicity.  Any marketing wonk will tell you that ANY
publicity is good and free publicity is the best kind.  6 months later,
people don't remember WHAT was said but they do recognize the name.  All
of it serves to build the brand.  

I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are giving in
to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves
dominating everyone's ideas about religion.  I would urge the FreeBSD
community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious freedom
for everyone.  You have a right to your logo.  It's been your logo for
20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to make you
change it.  I'm not saying that they have to agree with you, but they
don't have the right to force you to change.

2 cents,

Jimi  

  
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newsyslog

2005-03-17 Thread Chris Knipe
Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to get 
rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month?

I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail...
--
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:04 am, Thompson, Jimi wrote:
 SNIP

  What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
  logo
 
  out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new
  logo
 
  used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going
  to
 
  see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply present more
  confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all.  Most
  likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for
  example uses multiple brands for the same iron.

 /SNIP

 Personally, I find the suggestion that we remove the daemon as the
 logo to be religiously offensive.  The gods of the old religion
 always become the evil of the new religion.  If you're so worried
 about formulating a poltically correct response to the daemon, the
 be concerned about the politicial correctness of violing MY religious
 freedom.

 Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing
 religious references UNTIL the point at which you go to remove
 references to their religion.  If the logo was a cross, the
 christians would be irate about having it removed.  If the logo was
 star of david, the jews would be irate about having it removed.  If
 the logo was cresent moon, the islamic element would be irate about
 having it removed.  However, each group would rejoice if another
 group's icon was removed as the logo.

 People's arugments about what name you should call your god are the
 poorest excuse I've ever seen for most of the ills that befall
 humanity. Any right thinking individual realizes that 1) not everyone
 is going to agree with you and 2) true conversion does not come with
 the use of force.  If your version of god is so totally awesome and
 your faith is so great in what you believe and you aren't afraid of
 being converted, why do you feel the need to try to supress everyone
 else?

 Now, from a marketing perspective, FreeBSD could do worse than
 Beastie. The fact that he is some what controversial generates a
 significant amount of publicity.  Any marketing wonk will tell you
 that ANY publicity is good and free publicity is the best kind.  6
 months later, people don't remember WHAT was said but they do
 recognize the name.  All of it serves to build the brand.

 I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are giving
 in to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves
 dominating everyone's ideas about religion.  I would urge the FreeBSD
 community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious
 freedom for everyone.  You have a right to your logo.  It's been your
 logo for 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to
 make you change it.  I'm not saying that they have to agree with you,
 but they don't have the right to force you to change.

 2 cents,

 Jimi

Right on Jimi!

-Mike
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Re: newsyslog

2005-03-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 17), Chris Knipe said:
 Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to 
 get rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month?
 
 I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail...

If you drop the @, that would rotate on the 18th day of every month. 
Try (from the manpage):

$M1D0   rotate at the first day of every month at midnight (i.e.,
the start of the day; same as @01T00)

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Re: newsyslog

2005-03-17 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:09:06PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote:
 Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to 
 get rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month?
 
 I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail...
 
 --
 Chris. 

From the syslog manpage:


$M1D0   rotate at the first day of every month at midnight
(i.e., the start of the day; same as @01T00)


Have you already tried this?

Nathan


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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread cpghost
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:27:54AM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because 
 that number offends some people.  While your at it please remove 
 gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study 
 software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no 
 need to risk offending.   What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also 
 piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case.  Now the Arabic fonts need 
 tossing tool,  just to be fair.

While we're at it (even if it is OT for this thread), there's no
arabtex port in the tree right now. arabtex can generate hebrew
and arabic script via TeX. I'm quite curious why there's no port
for it. Perhaps because of the teTeX 3 transition?

Cheers,
-cpghost.

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Apache Signal 11

2005-03-17 Thread Kyle Mott
This just very recently started to happen (and I haven't upgraded Apache 
as of late either, or any other software for that matter). I keep 
getting this in my kernel.log on 2 different hosts:
Mar 17 09:34:16 logsrv pid 38069 (httpd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 
(core dumped)
Mar 17 00:34:25 g1bs0n kernel: pid 9419 (httpd), uid 0: exited on signal 
11 (core dumped)

Both hosts are running 'apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22' plus 
'php4-4.3.10', and a bunch of php modules that I don't want to list. i 
was able to get Apache running on g1bs0n by not starting ssl; however, 
Apache won't start on logsrv at all.

Looking up man signal, SIGSEGV (11) is a segmentation violation. What 
can cause this on 2 different machines that haven't been updated in a 
while? I'm currently running a ports-cvsup, to verify that 
apache+mod_ssl either does or does not need to be updated.


-Kyle Mott
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Re: Which ports use C++?

2005-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 06:45:53AM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:
 
 Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports 
 anyway?
 
 That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you
 have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and
 compile new software against them on 5.3.
 
 OK. But just to make sure I understand it right - does this mean that if 
 I upgrade to 5.3, then those ports that depend on some incompatible 
 library or are written in C++ do not work until they are recompiled?
 
 I'm aware that some of the library upgrades can be overcome with 
 /etc/libmap.conf, but apparently this doesn't get it all.

Correct on both counts.

Kris

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Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic)

2005-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:43PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote:
 Thanks to all who replied. So it seems the consensus is a likely 
 hardware issue, and I am leaning that way as well now. I will try the 
 suggestion about disabling ACPI however.
 
 To address some of the other comments, that exact CPU-mobo-memory 
 configuration worked fine running Win2000 for many years, so I doubt it 
 is the problem per se.

Doesn't rule out bugs in the ACPI support of your motherboard.  Some
low-quality motherboards only implement an approximation to the ACPI
spec to a level that gets windows to run.

Kris
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X11 windows not setting up properly

2005-03-17 Thread paul thodiyil
I have installed FreeBSD release 5.3 for AMD 64 on my PC (opteron 250
processor, 1gb RAM,  Tyan 2885 motherboard), on a separate FreeBSD
partition on a SCSI hard drive.

It boots up without error messages -- after logging on, at the command
prompt I type startx, all that loads up of the X windows system are 4
terminal consoles, each with a command prompt.  I am unable to get KDE
or GNOME desktops even though I had included these in the setup
process.

I had previously used the 5.2 release when x-windows worked very well.
 My initial attempts to upgrade to 5.3 did not upgrade X-windows, so I
decided to reinstall from scratch.

Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to
appear after startx.

Many thanks.

Paul
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Fwd: X11 windows not setting up properly

2005-03-17 Thread paul thodiyil
I have installed FreeBSD release 5.3 for AMD 64 on my PC (opteron 250
processor, 1gb RAM,  Tyan 2885 motherboard), on a separate FreeBSD
partition on a SCSI hard drive.

It boots up without error messages -- after logging on, at the command
prompt I type startx, all that loads up of the X windows system are 4
terminal consoles, each with a command prompt.  I am unable to get KDE
or GNOME desktops even though I had included these in the setup
process.

I had previously used the 5.2 release when x-windows worked very well.
 My initial attempts to upgrade to 5.3 did not upgrade X-windows, so I
decided to reinstall from scratch.

Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to
appear after startx.

Many thanks.

Paul
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new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql

2005-03-17 Thread Chip Wiegand
I just finished installed 5.3 and am now trying to get apache2, php4, 
myql4 installed. I run sysinstall to install the packages from ftp. php4 
installed, mysql-client installed, but apache2 and mysql-server failed. I 
get this message when I tried mysql4.1.5  - 

Add of package mysql-client-4.1.5 aborted, error code 1 - Please check the 
debug screen for more info
press OK
Loading of dependent package mysql-client-4.1.5 failed

and the same message when trying apache2.0.50_3.

I don't know how to view the debug screen so can't provide any more info 
than those error messages.
I just need those 3 apps - apache2, php4 and mysql4 on this box for web 
developement.

Any suggestions?
Chip
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Re: X11 windows not setting up properly

2005-03-17 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:00:16 -0500
paul thodiyil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to
appear after startx.

 Did you create a file called  .xinitrc in your home directory with the
following content?

startkde

 Otherwise, it just loads the boring plain Xfree interface with no windows
manager or desktop.

-gerry
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:27:54AM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666
  because that number offends some people.  While your at it please
  remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have
  bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross
  is illegal, no need to risk offending.   What about the hewbrew
  fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case.  Now
  the Arabic fonts need tossing tool,  just to be fair.

 While we're at it (even if it is OT for this thread), there's no
 arabtex port in the tree right now. arabtex can generate hebrew
 and arabic script via TeX. I'm quite curious why there's no port
 for it. Perhaps because of the teTeX 3 transition?

 Cheers,
 -cpghost.

To get back OT lets hope this arabtex port is not missing because 
someone is offended by it.  To be more serious I know ports has
hebrew fonts, for example /usr/ports/hebrew/elmar-fonts/pkg-descr 
and /usr/ports/hebrew/culmus/pkg-descr.  There are arabic fonts 
in  /usr/ports/arabic/  About arabtex I just looked at

http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ifi/bs/research/arab_e.html

which refers you to

 ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/

for download.

Maybe this is a good project for some Arabic speaking person to take on?

Making a port of arabtex I mean, if anyone does, be warned 

ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/

seems as slow as molasses. (is that phrase offensive these days? I never 
can be sure any more )

-Mike

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Data Recovery

2005-03-17 Thread Yanek Korff
Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few 
days, assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since?

I've been playing with tools like foremost and jpegrescue a bit... and 
running tests on other filesystems, but it doesn't appear that I'm 
getting full images back from the disk.  Looking at an octal dump of a 
disk image (dd if=/dev/blah of=/some/file), I can find the file 
header... and about 20k of the file, generally... and then there's 
garbage.  Presumably the file's been broken into blocks and there's 
inode table data to consider...

The tests Im running are trying to find jpeg files that HAVEN'T been 
deleted from the filesystem.  My real scenario of course differs.

Pointers/rtfm welcome.
-Yanek.
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strange behaviour : grep -i --colour

2005-03-17 Thread martinko
hello,
i've just found out that while 'grep -i ' and 'grep --colour ' 
behave as expected (by myself), running 'grep -i --colour ' results in 
very strange behaviour - grep consumes all available cpu and, based on 
its input and terminal type, its output is definitely not what it should be.

is this a known issue pls (i couldn't find anything about it) or am i 
just missing something ?

regards,
martin
ps: observed on freebsd 5.3r-p5
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Re: new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql

2005-03-17 Thread Thomas Foster
You can switch ttys to view output of pkg_add to see any error messages..
or try using the Ports tree.
T
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From: Chip Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FreeBSD List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:06 AM
Subject: new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql


I just finished installed 5.3 and am now trying to get apache2, php4,
myql4 installed. I run sysinstall to install the packages from ftp. php4
installed, mysql-client installed, but apache2 and mysql-server failed. I
get this message when I tried mysql4.1.5  -
Add of package mysql-client-4.1.5 aborted, error code 1 - Please check the
debug screen for more info
press OK
Loading of dependent package mysql-client-4.1.5 failed
and the same message when trying apache2.0.50_3.
I don't know how to view the debug screen so can't provide any more info
than those error messages.
I just need those 3 apps - apache2, php4 and mysql4 on this box for web
developement.
Any suggestions?
Chip
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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thompson, Jimi
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:04 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt


 I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are
 giving in
 to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves
 dominating everyone's ideas about religion.  I would urge the FreeBSD
 community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious freedom
 for everyone.  You have a right to your logo.  It's been your logo for
 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to make you
 change it.  I'm not saying that they have to agree with you, but they
 don't have the right to force you to change.


Hi Jimi,

  First, if yuor a FreeBSD user it's YOUR logo too, not just mine.

  Second, I agree with the sentiments - which is why I do not intend
to participate in the rediculous contest for a new logo which was
announced here last month.  I urge everyone else not to participate also.

  The core developers who want to change Beastie are not graphic artists,
they know they aren't graphic artists, and they have never been able to
come up with anything to replace beastie that looks a tenth as good.
They
know this which is why the put together the contest.  If nobody
participates
in the contest then they will be back where they started from and will
not have gained anything in the attempt to change beastie.

  If that happens not only will beastie stay but the malcontents will
have
gotten such a significantly embarassing and bloody nose over the affair
that they will then hopefully drop this stupid and misguided campaign.

  Remember - these religious right politically correct types draw
strength
in numbers.  They know they are a minority in the userbase, and so the
only hope they have of winning is the following:

1) is getting a sufficient number of FreeBSD users converted
over to the way they think.

2) Hiding behind the existing FreeBSD core team and making the rest of
us think that the entire core team is united in wanting to toss Beastie.

So far, numbers 1 and 2 aren't true, and unless the userbase starts
thinking that they are, this effort will die a quiet death.

Ted

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Re: Data Recovery

2005-03-17 Thread Thomas Foster
I hope that you have remounted this filesystem read-only .. or else you 
might not be able to recover anything.  That might be one of the problems 
you are running into.

Sleuthkit allows you to search inodes and fragment ranges of a device for 
particular file and directory names.. then images that inode or fragment 
range into a single image file elsewhere on the system.

Foremost will then open that image file and extract files based on their 
header and footer information, but.. if you do not include footer 
information you might get truncated file recovery.  Also.. as  stated 
before.. if there have been multiple writes to the file system.. you 
probably wont get the file back at all.

Hope this helps..
T
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From: Yanek Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: Data Recovery


Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few days, 
assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since?

I've been playing with tools like foremost and jpegrescue a bit... and 
running tests on other filesystems, but it doesn't appear that I'm getting 
full images back from the disk.  Looking at an octal dump of a disk image 
(dd if=/dev/blah of=/some/file), I can find the file header... and about 
20k of the file, generally... and then there's garbage.  Presumably the 
file's been broken into blocks and there's inode table data to consider...

The tests Im running are trying to find jpeg files that HAVEN'T been 
deleted from the filesystem.  My real scenario of course differs.

Pointers/rtfm welcome.
-Yanek.
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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
 McAllister
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM
 To: Michael C. Shultz
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt


 Oh, quit your whining.   The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away.
 It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used
 it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it.


Wrong.  Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX
predates Kirk.

 If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a
 good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they
 will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD.   So what.   Gee,
 maybe Kirk McKusick will design it.Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo
 so the mascot isn't threatened.


Wrong.  Beastie has always been the logo.  It is one of the hallmarks of
the anti-beastie campaign that the anti-beastie people are now claiming
that
beastie was never the logo.

Ted

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/etc/ppp/ip-up

2005-03-17 Thread Marco Greene (ML)
Hi all,

I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down scripts
and the fact that they do not work.  I am experiencing the same thing and I
have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with little
success.  I would really like to use these scripts.  Are there any hints?

-I have set the permissions to 555
-#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script

Are there any other things that I may have missed?

Note:  pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as found
on one of the links given by the handbook.

Thanks,
Marco

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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Thomas Foster
- Original Message - 
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael C. Shultz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
McAllister
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM
To: Michael C. Shultz
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

Oh, quit your whining.   The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away.
It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used
it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it.
Wrong.  Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX
predates Kirk.
If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a
good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they
will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD.   So what.   Gee,
maybe Kirk McKusick will design it.Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo
so the mascot isn't threatened.
Wrong.  Beastie has always been the logo.  It is one of the hallmarks of
the anti-beastie campaign that the anti-beastie people are now claiming
that
beastie was never the logo.
Who claims that Beastie was never the logo?
Who cares?  Will the logo affect the OS?  If not .. Im happy :-)
T

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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
 Shultz
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:30 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt


 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
   Shultz
   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM
   To: RacerX
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
  
  
   adding my $0.02 to the pot
  
   I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
   to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
   AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
   stick by it seams unwise.
 
  It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core
  members that have sticks up their ass about this issue.  The rest
  of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor
  on this issue.
 
  The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to
  bother to spend time on a logo change or not?  If the 1 or 2 core
  members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably
  isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work
  to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents.
 
  What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
  logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the
  new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and
  your going to see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply
  present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at
  all.  Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that
  GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron.
 
  Ted

 We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to
 take pride
 in anything, and it shows.


No, not at all.  The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully
being able to destroy ANWR for example.

More accurately, the United States has a political system that is
suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the
right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize
control until cooler heads prevail.  We are in one of these times.

Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition.  You and I wern't
alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control
then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia.

I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a
chance of control is much worse than a political system where the
minority gets control every once in a while.  So enduring these periods
of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make.

Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs
that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those
beliefs.  So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot
help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds
of it's own destruction.  Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich.
All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their
philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit.

Ted


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RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Marco Greene (ML)
Here is my 2 cents worth...Can we please stop filling our inboxes with
this

A logo...a mascot...who really cares.  If whoever put it there wants it
there, then let them put it there. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
Sent: March 17, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Michael C. Shultz
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
 Shultz
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:30 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt


 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
   Shultz
   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM
   To: RacerX
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
  
  
   adding my $0.02 to the pot
  
   I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than
   to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change.  If bestie goes
   AWOL so may I.  Using a product when its own designers won't
   stick by it seams unwise.
 
  It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core
  members that have sticks up their ass about this issue.  The rest
  of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor
  on this issue.
 
  The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to
  bother to spend time on a logo change or not?  If the 1 or 2 core
  members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably
  isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work
  to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents.
 
  What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
  logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the
  new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and
  your going to see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply
  present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at
  all.  Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that
  GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron.
 
  Ted

 We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to
 take pride
 in anything, and it shows.


No, not at all.  The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully
being able to destroy ANWR for example.

More accurately, the United States has a political system that is
suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the
right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize
control until cooler heads prevail.  We are in one of these times.

Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition.  You and I wern't
alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control
then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia.

I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a
chance of control is much worse than a political system where the
minority gets control every once in a while.  So enduring these periods
of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make.

Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs
that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those
beliefs.  So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot
help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds
of it's own destruction.  Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich.
All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their
philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit.

Ted


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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:04, Thompson, Jimi wrote:

 Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing
 religious references [...]

baptist class=southernpolitics wing=right
No.  Some people are going to be a pain in the butt regardless, and they 
attempt to use their beliefs (or lack of beliefs) as a tool to bully 
others.  The rest of us hate that our religion is drawn through the mud by 
loudmouths who claim to speak for us.

I'm about as conservative as you can get, but I have a Beastie logo on my 
server (next to the EFF sticker).  Can we drop this now?
/politics/baptist

-- 
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5.3-release-p5 pptp stoped working

2005-03-17 Thread Géczi Szabolcs
re,
after I made a cvsup and buildworld my pptp doesn't work well.
the clients can authenticate succesfully but they cannot reach subnet 
except the tunnel's endpoint ip which is 192.168.1.1.
naturally my ppp/pptp configuration are unchanged.

any idea?
sz
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to
  take pride
  in anything, and it shows.
 

Well, by now we are gleefully off topic for this list, so...
 
 No, not at all.  The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully
 being able to destroy ANWR for example.
 
 More accurately, the United States has a political system that is
 suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the
 right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize
 control until cooler heads prevail.  We are in one of these times.

The USA system attempts/purports to _protect_ the minorities.  This
exists because supposedly the system tries to protect everyone, not
specifically the minorities.  It is only an artifact that sometimes
minorities find themselves able to use the system to influence some
outcome.  They do not seize control.   They wield whatever poser/influence 
they can muster, but they do not seize control.   

 Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition.  You and I wern't
 alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control
 then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia.

First, that wasn't such a minority or untraconservative outcome as
you might think.It had next to nothing to do with Christianity
although some churches and church people got in to the fray.  It was
mostly more an unholy alliance of women activists and those who
were discovering the concept of social engineering.   It initially
enjoyed widespread support -- as well as widespread grumbling.  Most
who apposed it, presumed they could just ignore it which is what they
did.

Next, it was not exactly a failure.   The use of alcohol went down
very significantly.   

Finally, it was not the Mafia that gained power, but the Chicago,
Detroit and Galveston based bootlegger gangs.   They weren't Mafia
related for the most part and probably actually cut in to Mafia power 
during their brief reign.   

 I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a
 chance of control is much worse than a political system where the
 minority gets control every once in a while.  So enduring these periods
 of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make.

It is more that we need to discipline ourselves to protect everyone
and when we begin to fail in that, some corrective events begin to
happen.   Some of those corrective events can actually be disastrous.
 
 Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs
 that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those
 beliefs.  So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot
 help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds
 of it's own destruction.  Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich.
 All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their
 philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit.

Sure, each 'ultra' group contains the seeds/tools of its own 
destruction.   So, lets leave this topic at that.   Either the 
ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy 
themselves.

jerry

 
 Ted
 
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Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt

2005-03-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry
  McAllister
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM
  To: Michael C. Shultz
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt
 
 
  Oh, quit your whining.   The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away.
  It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used
  it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it.
 
 
  Wrong.  Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX
  predates Kirk.

Maybe, but he drew the cutest picture.

jerry

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adding a directory to a CD-image (.iso)

2005-03-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hello!

I donwloaded an .iso-image (Solaris 10, actually), which is about 2.7Gb.

Before burning it to a DVD, I'd like to add a directory to the image. Is there 
a way to do it with tools available on FreeBSD -- mkisofs, growisofs, etc?

I don't want to recreate the main image from scratch, as I'm sure, I'll get 
the options wrong and it will not boot :-) Can I just add a directory to the 
existing iso8859 filesystem?

Thanks!

-mi
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Re: Data Recovery

2005-03-17 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Yanek Korff writes:

 Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few
 days, assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since?

You can restore the files from backup for as long as you keep the
backups.

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Re: /etc/ppp/ip-up

2005-03-17 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Hi Marco,
It works fine for me.
But my file name is ppp.linkup, according to man ppp
and I used the following way
MakHine# cat ppp.linkup
MYADDR:
!bg sh -c sleep 75;/usr/local/bin/noip2 -U 59
MakHine#   

Aftab Jahan Subedar
- Kayoty 4 - Spyware detector for windows, check that out. 
http://www.tucows.com/preview/379868.html

Marco Greene (ML) wrote:
Hi all,
I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down scripts
and the fact that they do not work.  I am experiencing the same thing and I
have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with little
success.  I would really like to use these scripts.  Are there any hints?
-I have set the permissions to 555
-#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script
Are there any other things that I may have missed?
Note:  pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as found
on one of the links given by the handbook.
Thanks,
Marco
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RE: apple share

2005-03-17 Thread Tim Simmons
That's where the tricky part comes in. We can't change any of the software
on the Mac server. I was looking for a gateway between the mac server and
our PCs. We have a login ID and password, but that's all. 


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Subject: apple share

An easy solution is to install Dave (a commericial product) on the Apple
server if it is running Mac Classic. If it is running OSX you can use Samba.



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RE: /etc/ppp/ip-up

2005-03-17 Thread Marco Greene (ML)
Thanks...that worked.  I just found ip-up/ip-down in the pppd man page, but
I guess that is not what I was really after for running something after a
userland connection comes up.

Thanks,
Marco

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Subedar
Sent: March 18, 2005 3:00 AM
To: FreeBSD List
Subject: Re: /etc/ppp/ip-up


Hi Marco,
It works fine for me.
But my file name is ppp.linkup, according to man ppp
and I used the following way

MakHine# cat ppp.linkup
MYADDR:
 !bg sh -c sleep 75;/usr/local/bin/noip2 -U 59
MakHine#   

Aftab Jahan Subedar
- Kayoty 4 - Spyware detector for windows, check that out. 
http://www.tucows.com/preview/379868.html

Marco Greene (ML) wrote:

Hi all,

I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down
scripts
and the fact that they do not work.  I am experiencing the same thing and I
have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with little
success.  I would really like to use these scripts.  Are there any hints?

-I have set the permissions to 555
-#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script

Are there any other things that I may have missed?

Note:  pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as found
on one of the links given by the handbook.

Thanks,
Marco

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permanent changes to interface configuration

2005-03-17 Thread Philippe Bastien
Hi.

I have made some changes to my interface configuration. I used ifconfig to 
change from autodetect to 100baseTX full-duplex. Unless I am mistaken, that 
change is not permanent (it will be lost on the next reboot). What is the 
command or how do I make this change permanent?

Thanks

Philippe

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Can't Login to Box Anymore

2005-03-17 Thread JP
Hello,
 
I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd.  Upon 
rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means.  The 
console also generates the same error:
 
login in free(): error: chunk is already free
 
This is on FreeBSD 5.3.  Any advice on how to mount or access the server from 
the console?  I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is read-only and 
that doesnt' do me any good.
 
Thanks,
JP
 
 
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Re: cannot build openoffice

2005-03-17 Thread RW
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote:
 Hello,
 When I try to build openoffice I get the following error:
 ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so  \ echo  /dev/null
 cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or
 directory
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files'
 ---* TG_SLO.MK *---
 *** Error code 255

 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.

It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be fixed, 
but if you are in a hurry setting:
 
WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES

should make it work.
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Re: permanent changes to interface configuration

2005-03-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-03-17 15:39, Philippe Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 I have made some changes to my interface configuration. I used
 ifconfig to change from autodetect to 100baseTX full-duplex. Unless I
 am mistaken, that change is not permanent (it will be lost on the next
 reboot). What is the command or how do I make this change permanent?

You save all the relevant ifconfig options in `/etc/rc.conf', i.e.:

ifconfig_sis0=inet 10.0.0.2/8 -mediaopt FOO

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Re: Which ports use C++?

2005-03-17 Thread Toomas Aas
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 06:45:53AM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote:

Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports 
anyway?
That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you
have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and
compile new software against them on 5.3.
OK. But just to make sure I understand it right - does this mean that if 
I upgrade to 5.3, then those ports that depend on some incompatible 
library or are written in C++ do not work until they are recompiled?

I'm aware that some of the library upgrades can be overcome with 
/etc/libmap.conf, but apparently this doesn't get it all.
Correct on both counts.
I guess I was lucky in that all my important ports: postfix, 
amavisd-new, cyrus-imapd, mod_php, mysql40-server and apache2 survived 
the OS upgrade without the need to re-compile them. I *am* still 
planning to re-compile them anyway, I'm just glad I didn't *have* to do 
it all in one night.

Just wanted to record this as a data point in the list archives, in case 
someone else is looking at a same sort of upgrade.

--
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Re: Can't Login to Box Anymore

2005-03-17 Thread W. D.
At 14:44 3/17/2005, JP wrote:
Hello,
 
I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd.  Upon 
rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means.  
The console also generates the same error:
 
login in free(): error: chunk is already free
 
This is on FreeBSD 5.3.  Any advice on how to mount or access the server 
from the console?  I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is 
read-only and that doesnt' do me any good.

This might help:
http://www.Google.com/search?q=freebsd+read+only+file+system

 
Thanks,
JP
 
 
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Re: cannot build openoffice

2005-03-17 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +, RW wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote:
  Hello,
  When I try to build openoffice I get the following error:
  ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so  \ echo  /dev/null
  cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or
  directory
  dmake:  Error code 1, while making
  './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files'
  ---* TG_SLO.MK *---
  *** Error code 255
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.
 
 It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be
 fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting:
  
 WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES
 
 should make it work.

Didn't work for me yesterday.  However, I was able to install the
package from:

http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/

HTH

-- 
Regards,
Doug
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Re: Can't Login to Box Anymore

2005-03-17 Thread John
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 12:44:53PM -0800, JP wrote:
 Hello,
  
 I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd.  Upon 
 rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means.  
 The console also generates the same error:
  
 login in free(): error: chunk is already free
  
 This is on FreeBSD 5.3.  Any advice on how to mount or access the server from 
 the console?  I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is read-only 
 and that doesnt' do me any good.

Hey, JP.

The file system being read-only has nothing to do with your login
problem.  I do not recognize what is going on with your login
problem, and cannot help you there, but I can advise you on the
read-only status.  You can issue a mount command to remount (or
initially mount) the filesystems you need to try to solve your
problem.  I won't try to tell you which filesytems you need or
want, but many people will use a mount -a after single-user
boot to do system maintenance.
-- 

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Re: cannot build openoffice

2005-03-17 Thread Chuck Robey
Doug Poland wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +, RW wrote:
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote:
Hello,
When I try to build openoffice I get the following error:
./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so  \ echo  /dev/null
cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or
directory
dmake:  Error code 1, while making
'./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---
*** Error code 255
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.
It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be
fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting:
WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES
should make it work.
Didn't work for me yesterday.  However, I was able to install the
package from:
http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/
Anyone know, does the openoffice-2.0 port work?  Is it worth my while 
giving it a test build?

HTH
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Re: 5.3-release-p5 pptp stoped working

2005-03-17 Thread Andrew P.
Géczi Szabolcs wrote:
after I made a cvsup and buildworld my pptp doesn't work well.
the clients can authenticate succesfully but they cannot reach subnet 
except the tunnel's endpoint ip which is 192.168.1.1.
naturally my ppp/pptp configuration are unchanged.

any idea?
It's just that you didn't mention it:
did you update your kernel after updating world?
Best wishes,
Andrew P.
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
Well, I have just formatted the portion that FreeBSD is placed. And I
have just been reinstalling the whole system again. I found that the
disk shortage does not come from gnome but from OpenOffice 1.1
installation.

Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? (If it does, how much large?)

For your reference, I have partitioned (and labeled) the disk by using
Auto Allocation(?) option in FreeBSD disk labeler.

Thank you.
Soo-Hyun


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:55 -0600, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
 
 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
 
 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
 
 Soo-Hyun
 
 
 
 Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?
 
 Could you show us the output of df, the output of
 cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
 warning message you refer to?
 
 Kevin Kinsey

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make buildworld errors

2005-03-17 Thread luke
i just cvsup'd to release_5_3 and i'm making buildworld but it keeps
erroring out.
 if i do make buildworld again, chaning nothing, it goes a little
further and errors
 again. i've done this a few times. here's my /etc/make.conf

%more /etc/make.conf
CPUTYPE=k6-2
CFLAGS= -O -pipe
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe
NO_FORTRAN= true
NO_I4B= true
NO_LPR= true
NO_X= true
NOGAMES= true
NOPROFILE= true
USA_RESIDENT= yes

%uname -a
FreeBSD gw.internal.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov  5
04:19:18 UTC 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

 
and here's output from the latest time it's stopped. any help is appreciated.

cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\/usr\
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config
-DGENERATOR_FILE  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.c
In file included from
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.c:26:
/usr/include/stdio.h: In function `__sputc':
/usr/include/stdio.h:399: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
gw#

this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the
make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again.
i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a
pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for
a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's
hardware related.
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Re: make buildworld errors

2005-03-17 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 17 March 2005 01:43 pm, luke wrote:
 i just cvsup'd to release_5_3 and i'm making buildworld but it keeps
 erroring out.
  if i do make buildworld again, chaning nothing, it goes a little
 further and errors
  again. i've done this a few times. here's my /etc/make.conf

These are usually hardware errors. Some k6's were famous for 
overheating.

Kent


 %more /etc/make.conf
 CPUTYPE=k6-2
 CFLAGS= -O -pipe
 COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe
 NO_FORTRAN= true
 NO_I4B= true
 NO_LPR= true
 NO_X= true
 NOGAMES= true
 NOPROFILE= true
 USA_RESIDENT= yes

 %uname -a
 FreeBSD gw.internal.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 
 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


 and here's output from the latest time it's stopped. any help is
 appreciated.

 cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\/usr\
 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc
 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config
 -DGENERATOR_FILE  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c
 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.
c In file included from
 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.
c:26: /usr/include/stdio.h: In function `__sputc':
 /usr/include/stdio.h:399: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
 Please submit a full bug report,
 with preprocessed source if appropriate.
 See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 gw#

 this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the
 make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again.
 i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a
 pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for
 a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's
 hardware related.
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Re: make buildworld errors

2005-03-17 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 17, 2005, at 4:43 PM, luke wrote:
this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the
make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again.
i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a
pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for
a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's
hardware related.
Actually, if the compile crashes out at different points, that's almost 
a sure sign of a hardware issue, most probably overheating.  If you 
were just running the system as a network router before, that involves 
so little load that you wouldn't stress anything, but building world is 
a good stress test and marginal cooling will show symptoms like what 
you've described.

--
-Chuck
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Re: cannot build openoffice

2005-03-17 Thread Chuck Robey
Chuck Robey wrote:
Doug Poland wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +, RW wrote:
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote:
Hello,
When I try to build openoffice I get the following error:
./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so  \ echo  
/dev/null
cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such 
file or
directory
dmake:  Error code 1, while making
'./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---
*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.

It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be
fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting:
WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES
should make it work.
Didn't work for me yesterday.  However, I was able to install the
package from:
http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ 


Anyone know, does the openoffice-2.0 port work?  Is it worth my while 
giving it a test build?
Holy frijoles, did you see the size of the tarball that this thing 
downloads?  232 Mb!  Probably takes 49 days to build ...


HTH
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