Re: source code licensing questions
Thank you all for your detailed answers. Indeed, sounds like we will need some lawyer advice... My gut feeling is that we are going with the BSD license with day one. I am relatively new to open source myself (Been developing most of my work on closed source UNIX systems and windows), but I hope to catch up very soon. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:42 AM, son goku ryu.pla...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks guys for the prompt answers!!! It seems weird that code that uses dtrace must be opened. I mean every serious production level application must have some dtrace-like mechanism inside to collect online information when needed. It is a shame that because of licensing issues, I will have to roll-my-own and re-invent the wheel all over again, probably with cruder and implementation that is more flawed compared to dtrace. I wonder what all the proprietary modules for Solaris (VxVM jumps to mind...) or BSD do? Or there are no such modules anymore... http://www.sun.com/cddl/ - http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html - *1.3. “Covered Software”* means (a) the Original Software, or (b) Modifications, or (c) the combination of files containing Original Software with files containing Modifications, in each case including portions thereof. - *1.6. “Larger Work”* means a work which combines Covered Software or portions thereof with code not governed by the terms of this License. - - *3.6. Larger Works.* You may create a Larger Work by combining Covered Software with other code not governed by the terms of this License and distribute the Larger Work as a single product. In such a case, You must make sure the requirements of this License are fulfilled for the Covered Software. -- http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.php http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/cddllicense.txt http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/ http://www.opensolaris.com/licensing/opensolaris_license/ http://www.netbeans.org/cddl.html http://www.openmediacommons.org/CDDL_License.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing/cddllicense.txt This is a free software license. It has a copyleft with a scope that's similar to the one in the Mozilla Public License, which makes it incompatible with the GNU GPL http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html. This means a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally be linked together. We urge you not to use the CDDL for this reason. Also unfortunate in the CDDL is its use of the term “intellectual propertyhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html ”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/2005/02/04/#cddl === http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/licensing_faq/ *If I use code licensed under the CDDL in my proprietary product, will I have to share my source code?* Yes, for any source files that are licensed under the CDDL and any modifications you make. However, you don't need to share the source for your proprietary source files. === http://lwn.net/Articles/114839/ I am NOT a lawyer , therefore my opinions does NOT have any legal value . In short , CDDL does NOT require to disclose your OWN proprietary sources , BUT ONLY requires to explicitly supply CDDL licensed parts with any changes applied to them with respect to CDDL license . If you are a commercial entity my suggestion would be to seek legal advise from a lawyer with expertise on software licenses and copyrights . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD on E4200/E4300
Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Thanks a lot. Regards -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mar 28 jul 2009 10:15:54 CEST ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300
El día Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribió: Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Hello Albert, The place to look (and make entries) is here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detaillaptop=12868 HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
close users in jail
hi all, I am going to do some research in area of creating server in educational sphere, for example for some computer course at an university. At this server, there would be a lot of users (in tens, even hundreds) and I am also going to write some kind of shell script, which all of this does automatically. (something like pw but it makes as lot of accounts as I want to). At this configuration, it is inevitable to secure some tries of hacking and security attacks on the main system. I would like to get all users into jail (jail in computer :D) I know, if server has good security policy, I shouldn't be afraid, but in the end of course, I can delete all of that stuff very easily. It is a good idea? Some pros / cons ? I would like to get into jail also essential services, apache, ftp, quotas. The biggest why I want to do this that way is a fact there are some other important services at the main server. thank you in advance for response ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300
Le 28/07/2009 à 10:27:04+0200, Matthias Apitz a écrit El día Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribió: Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Hello Albert, The place to look (and make entries) is here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detaillaptop=12868 Thanks for the tips. Another question : I've access (but I can't install anything) a E4200 computer. How can I check what's is supported by FreeBSD ? www.freesbie.org don't answer (maybe the project is stop). Is they are another livecd or something like that ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mar 28 jul 2009 10:44:33 CEST ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: replacing GNATS?
thanks for the link. although this wasn't the interview i was referring to the announcement is great news. i don't quite understand though why there's the need to create a completely new bug tracking system. is this due to technical issues or rather a matter of not wanting to use what all the others are using? or to be more precise: a matter of pride. quite often i've been thinking: dealing with freebsd in general could be so much easier if somebody just said: alright! this is the way to go! a lot of problems aren't really taken take of, but people talk about it for ages not wanting to let go of ancient software e.g. the freebsd mailman archive is a mess basically. searching within it either returns useless results or doesn't work at all. plus the index leaves out certain months or even years. there are so many good ways of having a clean modern mailing list archive interface. or another example: patches which haven't been tested enough to make it into HEAD. they end up either on somebody's personal site in freebsd.org/~username or what's even worse end up in perforce which is a nasty piece of software imo. or take bug reports in general. everybody's concentrating on adding new features to HEAD or participates in endless discussions about some unimportant technical stuff where basically everybody tries to show off their tech knowledge. there are PR reports with patches included which solve critical and sometimes ancient bugs, but nobody's taking care of them. i know people who've been trying to use freebsd since 4.X, but were unable due to a panic which has been analysed and patched. the patch however never made it into the repository, because nobody seems to care. it's no big secret that submitting bug reports is basically a waste of time. if you have a patch for a problem and want to get it committed into HEAD or STABLE you have to get in contact with somebody who has write access to svn. just my 2 cents. ;) alex Glen Barber schrieb am 2009-07-28: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Alexander Bestalexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: i remember reading an interview with a fbsd maintainer where he stated that nobody's happy with the old GNATS bug tracking system, but since it works they're keeping it. why not move to bugzilla or another bug tracking system? most of them come with GNATS_2_* scripts. switching from cvs to svn (except ports) worked pretty well so why not continue in that fashion? Hi, Alexander I don't know if this is what you were referencing about the interview, but there was a funded project announcement in June about this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-June/001261.html Just in case that's not what you're referring to. Cheers. (Disclaimer: No, I am not justifying GNATS over Bugzilla, cvs over svn, etc, etc. It was unclear to me if you were referring to the same 'interview', and I thought I would provide a link.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:33:34AM +, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are you still seeing the error ... ? I just checked everything on server, and it appears to be processing fine ... yes, seems ok many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bind 9 (Was: bsdstats) - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((manager-lock))) == 0)
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 07:37:26PM -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 18:35:17 Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Monday, July 27, 2009 14:07:44 -0800 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 13:17:51 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, I get this error: # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((manager-lock))) == 0) ? 0 : 34) == 0) failed That error from bind, [:1: unexpected operator Is not handled gracefully in the bsdstats script. Is there something I can do to improve the script to handle it better? Well, if OP can provide sh -x /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics output, it's easier to see which variable is empty as a result of a resolver error. Then fix the test expression and either exit or use a retry_x_times mechanism. # script zzz sh -x /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay Script started on Tue Jul 28 11:14:53 2009 + [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + periodic_conf_files='/etc/periodic.conf /etc/periodic.conf.local' + local_periodic=/usr/local/etc/periodic + daily_output=root + daily_show_success=YES + daily_show_info=YES + daily_show_badconfig=NO + daily_clean_disks_enable=NO + daily_clean_disks_files='[#,]* .#* a.out *.core *.CKP .emacs_[0-9]*' + daily_clean_disks_days=3 + daily_clean_disks_verbose=YES + daily_clean_tmps_enable=NO + daily_clean_tmps_dirs=/tmp + daily_clean_tmps_days=3 + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix' + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix quota.user quota.group' + daily_clean_tmps_verbose=YES + daily_clean_preserve_enable=YES + daily_clean_preserve_days=7 + daily_clean_preserve_verbose=YES + daily_clean_msgs_enable=YES + daily_clean_msgs_days='' + daily_clean_rwho_enable=YES + daily_clean_rwho_days=7 + daily_clean_rwho_verbose=YES + daily_clean_hoststat_enable=YES + daily_backup_passwd_enable=YES + daily_backup_aliases_enable=YES + daily_calendar_enable=NO + daily_accounting_enable=YES + daily_accounting_compress=NO + daily_accounting_flags=-q + daily_accounting_save=3 + daily_news_expire_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_df_flags='-l -h' + daily_status_zfs_enable=NO + daily_status_ata_raid_enable=NO + daily_status_gmirror_enable=NO + daily_status_graid3_enable=NO + daily_status_gstripe_enable=NO + daily_status_gconcat_enable=NO + daily_status_network_enable=YES + daily_status_network_usedns=YES + daily_status_rwho_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_shorten=NO + daily_status_include_submit_mailq=YES + daily_status_security_enable=YES + daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=YES + daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 + daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=NO + daily_status_named_enable=YES + daily_status_named_usedns=YES + daily_status_ntpd_enable=NO + daily_queuerun_enable=YES + daily_submit_queuerun=YES + daily_local=/etc/daily.local + daily_status_security_inline=NO + daily_status_security_output=root + daily_status_security_noamd=NO + daily_status_security_logdir=/var/log + daily_status_security_diff_flags='-b -u' + daily_status_security_chksetuid_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkmounts_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkuid0_enable=YES + daily_status_security_passwdless_enable=YES + daily_status_security_logincheck_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_pfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwlimit_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipf6denied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_kernelmsg_enable=YES + daily_status_security_loginfail_enable=YES + daily_status_security_tcpwrap_enable=YES + weekly_output=root + weekly_show_success=YES + weekly_show_info=YES + weekly_show_badconfig=NO + weekly_locate_enable=YES + weekly_whatis_enable=YES + weekly_catman_enable=NO + weekly_noid_enable=NO + weekly_noid_dirs=/ + weekly_status_pkg_enable=NO + pkg_version=pkg_version + pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-8 + weekly_local=/etc/weekly.local + monthly_output=root + monthly_show_success=YES + monthly_show_info=YES + monthly_show_badconfig=NO + monthly_accounting_enable=YES + monthly_local=/etc/monthly.local + [ -z '' ] + source_periodic_confs_defined=yes + source_periodic_confs + local i sourced_files + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/periodic.conf + monthly_statistics_enable=YES + monthly_statistics_report_devices=YES + monthly_statistics_report_ports=YES + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf::/etc/periodic.conf.local: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf.local ] + periodic_conf=/etc/periodic.conf + umask + oldmask=0022 + umask 066 + version=5.4 + checkin_server=rpt.bsdstats.org +
Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:58:07AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:33:34AM +, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are you still seeing the error ... ? I just checked everything on server, and it appears to be processing fine ... yes, seems ok however, the Ports Stats link seems to be wrong, it takes to the CPU stats. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300
Albert Shih wrote: Le 28/07/2009 à 10:27:04+0200, Matthias Apitz a écrit El día Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribió: Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Hello Albert, The place to look (and make entries) is here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detaillaptop=12868 Thanks for the tips. Another question : I've access (but I can't install anything) a E4200 computer. How can I check what's is supported by FreeBSD ? www.freesbie.org don't answer (maybe the project is stop). Is they are another livecd or something like that ? Regards. Assuming there is windows installed in it, just check the device manager for entries like wireless, vga, sound etc. Then have a look at the hardware notes here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/hardware.html to see if these devices are supported. Another thing to try: Boot from the FreeBSD DVD or the livefs iso (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.2/7.2-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso), go to the Fixit option and select to use the live filesystem. Once you get to a console try a few things like dmesg -a to see what the kernel has recognized. Also look for problems like ACPI error messages and the like. At this point it is probably worth to try this with a FreeBSD 8.0 livefs, as it will probably support hardware than 7.2 does not. Many recent laptops have wireless chipsets that are not yet supported in FreeBSD. Take a look at the bottom side to see if an easy access to the wireless mini-PCI express card is provided. You can then easily exchange the card if needed. Atheros-based cards are sold on ebay for a few bucks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpd / time synchronization
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:44:50 +0200 Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com wrote: Hello, I guess there is something simple that is wrong but my server is not really keeping the correct time. I have these options in /etc/rc.conf ntpd_enable=YES ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift Assuming you are running the system ntpd file, the above are not really required. They are the defaults anyway. Try commenting out the line and restarting ntpd. and here's the details of /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.pl.pool.ntp.org server 1.pl.pool.ntp.org server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org server 3.pl.pool.ntp.org driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift restrict default nopeer nomodify You are restating the 'driftfile again', why? Take out the restrict line. I doubt if you really need it. I used to have server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org in the ntp.conf file but today changed all entries to *.pl.pool.* At the moment my clock is about 3 minutes behind time. It has been running for a year and I do not have ntpdate enabled so I guess subsequent reboots did not correct the drifting problem. Is there anything obvious I am missing here? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all very much! Are there any error messages logged? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Then you admit confirming not denying you ever said that? NO! ... I mean Yes! WHAT? I'll put `maybe.' -- Bloom County ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to
On Sat, July 25, 2009 01:46, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, Doug Poland d...@polands.org wrote: After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. The file is /boot/device.hints. For each serial port, the following dataset has to be completed: hint.sio.N.at=isa hint.sio.N.port=0x3F8 ---+ hint.sio.N.flags=0x10 ---+--- set up hint.sio.N.irq=4---+ Still, I don't know how to determine the correct addresses and IRQs, maybe the documentation belonging to the expansion card can help... Yeah, their product manual(PDF) doesn't help with this type of information. I'll email them and see if they can give me these data. If I see this correctly, each serial port should then be visible as a /dev/cuadN device file. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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problem with startx..!
*Hi all, I login to my system and try to type: startx I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and nothing else. and after a few minutes I get this message:* *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: conneciton to :0.0 refused by Server Xlib: No protocol specified ... giving up /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try startx as root it works, and is loading KDE fine. What's wrong? *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) Thanx! * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
documentation for gpart(8)/GPT?
Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little wobbly. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ipf rules question
Jay Hall wrote: And, following is the output from ipfstat showing the relevant rule(s). @140 block in quick proto tcp from 82.0.0.0/8 to any port = smtp If I am looking at everything correctly all traffic coming into the system from the 82.0.0.0/8 network to port 25 on the mail server should be blocked. What am I missing? I can't tell you what you're missing, but we're missing the entire story. Just because you have a block rule doesn't mean that things will get blocked if you have a pass rule before. You need to post the entire ruleset if you want help with that. Evidently, things get passed by some other rule, you can get a clue by adding the log action to all rules passing packets to port 25 or any port. When adding new rules it is a good idea to add log statements so you can debug. Once things work, remove them to reduce the noise. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with startx..!
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:54:08 +0300 thanos trompoukis atr0...@gmail.com wrote: *Hi all, I login to my system and try to type: startx I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and nothing else. and after a few minutes I get this message:* *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: conneciton to :0.0 refused by Server Xlib: No protocol specified ... giving up /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try startx as root it works, and is loading KDE fine. What's wrong? *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) I have heard of a problem when X is started as root and then later started as an ordinary user. Evidently, the permissions on the files, and directories are set for root and the regular user cannot access them. I am not sure if that is the problem in your case; however, the fact that X works as root might be an indication of it. You might want to check the appropriate directory and file ownership's and permissions. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Then you admit confirming not denying you ever said that? NO! ... I mean Yes! WHAT? I'll put `maybe.' -- Bloom County ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ipf rules question
Erik Norgaard wrote: Jay Hall wrote: And, following is the output from ipfstat showing the relevant rule(s). @140 block in quick proto tcp from 82.0.0.0/8 to any port = smtp Evidently, things get passed by some other rule, you can get a clue by adding the log action to all rules passing packets to port 25 or any port. And, by the way in ip-filter it is a really good idea to add a default rule explicitly, always specify network interface and use groups to organize and optimize your ruleset. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:54:53AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little wobbly. Have a look at http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/geom-mirror.html This is a proposed addition to the handbook. There is a gpart example. By the way, I'd welcome any feedback on this modified section. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: replacing GNATS?
Hi, Alexander Please note that as I am replying to your questions, I am in no position to do so. I do not (nor do I wish to appear to) represent the FreeBSD project in the respect your questions are asked. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Alexander Bestalexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: thanks for the link. although this wasn't the interview i was referring to the announcement is great news. i don't quite understand though why there's the need to create a completely new bug tracking system. is this due to technical issues or rather a matter of not wanting to use what all the others are using? or to be more precise: a matter of pride. I doubt it is a matter of pride, but more technical reasons. The bug tracking system for the FreeBSD project needs to be very specific -- who has what PR, which PRs are untouched, which PR was resolved by which SVN commit, etc, etc. This is in addition to the 'separation' of the bugs -- networking, kernel, documentation, ports, and so on. quite often i've been thinking: dealing with freebsd in general could be so much easier if somebody just said: alright! this is the way to go! a lot of problems aren't really taken take of, but people talk about it for ages not wanting to let go of ancient software e.g. In a BSDTalk podcast interviewing a few of the core team members, this topic was brought up, and explained in some detail [1]. The situation mentioned was the conversion from cvs to subversion, and how a change like that, as easy as it may sound on paper, really is not a matter of a simple code repository conversion -- there were a lot of things to consider. As I previously mentioned, I do not attempt to represent anyone in the decision making process for the project, but I think it is a safe assumption that these same considerations need to be taken into account for other major changes. [snip] or take bug reports in general. everybody's concentrating on adding new features to HEAD or participates in endless discussions about some unimportant technical stuff where basically everybody tries to show off their tech knowledge. You sound like you're getting off topic to your own thread here... there are PR reports with patches included which solve critical and sometimes ancient bugs, but nobody's taking care of them. i know people who've been trying to use freebsd since 4.X, but were unable due to a panic which has been analysed and patched. the patch however never made it into the repository, because nobody seems to care. Could you provide some examples? it's no big secret that submitting bug reports is basically a waste of time. How so? if you have a patch for a problem and want to get it committed into HEAD or STABLE you have to get in contact with somebody who has write access to svn. Isn't that where filing a PR comes in? [1] - http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/05/bsdtalk173-few-freebsd-core-team.html -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: replacing GNATS?
In a BSDTalk podcast interviewing a few of the core team members, this topic was brought up, and explained in some detail [1]. The situation [1] - http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/05/bsdtalk173-few-freebsd-core-team.html The wrong podcast was referenced. The correct one is: http://cisx1.uma.maine.edu/~wbackman/bsdtalk/bsdtalk164.mp3 -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with startx..!
thanos trompoukis atr0...@gmail.com writes: *Hi all, I login to my system and try to type: startx I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and nothing else. and after a few minutes I get this message:* *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: conneciton to :0.0 refused by Server Xlib: No protocol specified ... giving up /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* Can you rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority? *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try startx as root it works, and is loading KDE fine. What's wrong? *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) Thanx! * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT?
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Have a look at http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/geom-mirror.html This is a proposed addition to the handbook. There is a gpart example. By the way, I'd welcome any feedback on this modified section. First iussue: the Next link in the upper right hand corner doesn't work. I am most interested in creating partitions generic )non-RAID) UFS(2) filesystems. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT?
Robert Huff wrote: Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about working with gpart/GPT?I've read the man page, and am still a little wobbly. I found http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2009-April/003440.html reasonably informative. Vince Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support
Hi, I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox and it works like a charm. Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under FreeBSD 8? Greetings Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT?
Vincent Hoffman writes: Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about working with gpart/GPT?I've read the man page, and am still a little wobbly. I found http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2009-April/003440.html reasonably informative. Very close to what I want. Thank you. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why graph on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/growth/status.png not updated?
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Failing to compile a new kernel
Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I receive the following error: * ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.* The last MAKE that appears in the terminal was *MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09* I adjunt the configuration file Thanks! TEST28JUL09 Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mutt-devel freezes with filesystem full, ends up in wdrain cpu state
On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP mutt-devel-1.5.20_1 freezes on some folders with /tmp: write failed, filesystem is full Could not copy message top shows that mutt is in wdrain state and in /var/log/messages I see kernel: pid 43702 (mutt), uid 1001 inumber 23554 on /tmp: filesystem full /tmp has lots of free space Anybody else is seeing this? What could be the problem? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
opensips port for freebsd
Hi: I have noted there are two ports in net/, ser and openser. According to the information I can dig up, ser is dead. openser is a fork, the port version is 1.2. In 2008 openser was renamed opensips, continuing the version numbering opensips is now in 1.5. Has anyone got opensips compiled and running? Is there any opensips port coming up? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support
On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote: Hi, I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox and it works like a charm. Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under FreeBSD 8? I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support. A quick look at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a configurable knob. -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with startx..!
thanos trompoukis atr0...@gmail.com writes: Can you rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority? When I try rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority it ask me this: override rw--- root/wheel for .Xaouthority? What am I suppose to do? Get root to remove it. And don't run X as root again. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failing to compile a new kernel
gula nito gulan...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I receive the following error: * ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.* The actual error was a little higher up. The last MAKE that appears in the terminal was *MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09* First of all, you can usually stick with the GENERIC kernel unless you need something particular. If you are going to change it, then the approach you should take is to make a few changes at a time. That way, if the build fails, you can reverse those changes and figure out what was wrong with them. I adjunt the configuration file Looks like you included NFS_LOCKD without including NFS. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failing to compile a new kernel
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 11:08:57 am gula nito wrote: Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I receive the following error: * ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.* The last MAKE that appears in the terminal was *MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09* I adjunt the configuration file Thanks! You have to include the actual error messages. The error 1 is just telling you that you had an error. You have scbus, da, and miibus, which are the most common errors that I see. I didn't see anything else. Post the error messages and maybe some one will see what you did wrong. You should probably include a uname -a. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: svn+ssh server only
So the only one you had marked was the svnserve-wrapper ? in Make config No, I just used the default config. You don't need svnserve-wrapper (what ever that is). You just run svnserve as a daemon, and access it like svn://host.name/project/trunk/ Note the importance of PF to control access, otherwise, your svn server will be wide open. But since PF allows me (or rather, any one or process using an allowed IP address) to access the repository without authentication, use is really simple and straight forward. This is a pretty simple set up and probably only works well for single-user repositories, but that's exactly my situation. -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Dell perc 2/qc cannot find 7.2 MBR
I have been trying to install FreeBSD 7.2 on a i386 system with a Dell Perc 2/QC SCSI raid card. The root files system is on a raid 1 volume. However, after installation the system will not boot. The BIOS complains that it cannot find the master boot record. During installation, I installed a standard master boot record on the volume. Has anybody else seen this? Suggestions? Thanks, Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas?
After one of the last crashes, the system would lock up a short time after rebooting. I found the problem caused by background fsck locking up the system. I took the partition out of the startup check for now. I 'think' I was installing a port during the last crash, but it has been a while. I performed a fsck and a dump (to /dev/null) confirming that both do crash the freebsd 7.2 and 6.2 (which I booted off of a separate drive). A tar to /dev/null did run successfully, but I recall reading that that is not a recommended way to backup/move a filesystem. The /usr partition where it causes trouble is in a raid5 geom_vinum three drive array. I did not yet have the array rebuild the parity nor do I know if there is any advantage/disadvantage in doing so (for this problem). I ran a long test on the drives using smartctl (which is a safer surface check than dd because 1 bad sector on my promise controller will cause a panic; I have an unrelated drive with a corrupted sector if the promise controller dirver has an interested maintainer.) When running fsck, it is somewhere within phase 1 when it crashes. I ran a truss run of fsck with -aedD and snapped a photo of my screen when it crashed which I can type up if it is of any use. At the time of freebsd freezing, the hard drive activity light goes from a faint flicker to on solid for about a second and then goes out. The system is completely unresponsive where it locks showing no sign of activity that I have been able to notice. I imagine the recommendation is start over, but before I do (and likely just try a tar backup/restore), are there any other suggestions and questions before I blow away the problem? It would be nice for freebsd users to not be able to run into such a problem. As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull system power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas?
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700, Edward Sanford Sutton, III mirror...@cox.net wrote: As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull system power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? An easy way is to go into single user mode and umount all the partitions, then press Reset or Power off. Most cases of file system corruption on hard reset or power loss are often repaired well by the fsck program. (I had system crashes due to defective USB sticks and never had file system corruption after a successful fsck run. Note that I did fsck in the foreground.) If you cannot umount disks, run sync three or four times and wait a little while. This is not as good as umounting disks, and quite useless if the system is active (in terms of file I/O). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700, Edward Sanford Sutton, III mirror...@cox.net wrote: As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull system power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? An easy way is to go into single user mode and umount all the partitions, then press Reset or Power off. Most cases of file system corruption on hard reset or power loss are often repaired well by the fsck program. (I had system crashes due to defective USB sticks and never had file system corruption after a successful fsck run. Note that I did fsck in the foreground.) If you cannot umount disks, run sync three or four times and wait a little while. This is not as good as umounting disks, and quite useless if the system is active (in terms of file I/O). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... I've had fs corruption after a successful fsck runs, sometimes multiples are needed. I think after 2 consecutive runs it's as good as it's going to get, but I could be wrong more may be helpful. This is a rare occurrence in my experience. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xorg 7.4 issue
I'm having problems with Xorg 7.4. For some reason, my windows show up but I can't do anything with them, meaning, I see the window appear, but when I type something, I don't see what is being typed. Sympthoms: When launching KDM, I don't see the greeting window, but yet when I type my password I get to log in. Once logged in, background and everything (KDE4 taskbar), but when I open an application (konsole, firefox, etc) only the outline of the window appears. So with konsole the outline appears, if I type something it gets executed but I can't see it. Also, when I try to move the window elsewhere, its outline completely fades away. The same happens when I just use startx - so it's not a KDE problem. hald and dbus are enabled and seem to work ok since mouse and keyboard can be used. What can this be, system is basically useless in X mode. Everything worked fine in 7.3. Sorry for the strange explanation, but I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks, Alain ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: svn+ssh server only
Okay - Thank you :) Mine is behind pfsense and PAT On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: So the only one you had marked was the svnserve-wrapper ? in Make config No, I just used the default config. You don't need svnserve-wrapper (what ever that is). You just run svnserve as a daemon, and access it like svn:// host.name/project/trunk/ Note the importance of PF to control access, otherwise, your svn server will be wide open. But since PF allows me (or rather, any one or process using an allowed IP address) to access the repository without authentication, use is really simple and straight forward. This is a pretty simple set up and probably only works well for single-user repositories, but that's exactly my situation. -- John -- Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. Møller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build....
Hey all, I'm having a problem on multiple systems: With a clean port, in dns/bind96: I get the options screen, I select only overwrite base in addition to the defaults:, and after, I get this: make: don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/dns/bind96. s1# Additional builds go fine. Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035.html But it was dismissed because he was using sudo, however the real reason is because this problem goes away a second time. -Dan -- Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build....
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: make: don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop *** Error code 2 Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. html But it was dismissed because he was using sudo, however the real reason is because this problem goes away a second time. Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
