Re: man(1) output error
% man csh | less +/rehash but after exiting less: Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 No manual entry for csh This error seems new. I can confirm that this does occur on 8.1-RELEASE and does not occur on 8.1-STABLE r213338. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Hoffman [vi...@unsane.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:22 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl On 28/10/2010 15:25, Christopher Illies wrote: 2010-10-28 14:49, Christopher Illies: To send email from my computer at work I need to send through a smarthost. In the past I had added the line: define(`SMART_HOST', `[smpt.ki.se]') Brackets are only needed for ipaddresses. ... All I had to do for was add AuthInfo:relay.isp.net U:smmsp I:username P:PassWord M:PLAIN to /etc/mail/access and the smarthost directive. I added U:smmsp and M:PLAIN to my /etc/mail/auth/client-info file, but that did not change anything. When I left out the square brackets around the server name in that file, I got another error message in /val/log/maillog: Oct 29 12:05:22 muck sm-mta[42252]: o9TA5Mtt042250: to=christopher.ill...@web.de, ctladdr=ch...@muck.ks.se (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30466, relay=send.ki.se. [130.229.20.28], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Name server: send.ki.se.: host name lookup failure ... (I also set up SSL separately as i'm using plain method but you seem to have that covered.) Could you explain this a bit further, please? I am not clear on how this works. Setting up SSL is done by compiling sendmail with sasl, isn't it? Or is there something else to do? Also, the term plain method confuses me: This does not refer to whether or not you are using ssl? Sorry to bother you with all these questions. Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -L ... [odd behaviour ?]
On 10/29/10 01:00, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi, Dan-- On Oct 28, 2010, at 3:45 PM, dan wrote: 'mount_msdosfs -L en_US.UTF-8 /dev/da0 local/mnt/' executed by a non root-user prints out the following mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted and then stops with error 71 on console. Later, the same command, executed by the same user, completes correctly if some time before the root user has succesfully issued it and unmounted the device. Any clues ? Things I am probably missing ? Does Anyone else notice this (odd) behaviour (if it is odd) ? It's probably coming from /usr/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/mount_msdosfs.c: if (set_charset(iov,iovlen, cs_local, cs_dos) == -1) err(EX_OSERR, msdosfs_iconv); ...since set_charset() tries to load the msdosfs_iconv libiconv kernel modules: if (modfind(msdosfs_iconv) 0) if (kldload(msdosfs_iconv) 0 || modfind(msdosfs_iconv) 0) { warnx(cannot find or load \msdosfs_iconv\ kernel module); return (-1); } kldload() fails with EPERM if you are not root: [EPERM]You do not have access to read the file or link it with the kernel. You should be the root user to be able to use the kld system calls. Once root has loaded these modules, you can invoke mount_msdosfs as a normal user because they are already available. You can put kldload msdosfs_iconv into /etc/rc.local, or maybe tweak /boot/loader.conf to load these at boot if you prefer. Regards, Hello :-) Thank you for your research and prompt response. The module was available. I tried both: kldload in command line and adding it in loader.conf. Note. In case the module has not been been loaded,as a user, here, one gets 2 messages mount_msdosfs: cannot find or load msdosfs_iconv kernel module AND mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted I wonder what Operation is not permitted as a user and what rights the user needs. d ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -L ... [odd behaviour ?]
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:13 AM, dan gl...@live.com wrote: Thank you for your research and prompt response. The module was available. I tried both: kldload in command line and adding it in loader.conf. Note. In case the module has not been been loaded,as a user, here, one gets 2 messages mount_msdosfs: cannot find or load msdosfs_iconv kernel module AND mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted I wonder what Operation is not permitted as a user and what rights the user needs. sysctl vfs.usermount=1 Although it doesn't seem correct that you can mount that FS if it's already been mounted previously by root when that sysctl is at 0. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port update problem?
On 10/28/10 19:07, Doug Spangler wrote: You are correct I meant chapter 4. Just out of curiosity is your INDEX intact or is that the cause of the odd behavior of /etc/periodic/weekly/400.status-pkg, portion of the problem. I understand that it is not the root cause of your problem just a symptom. OK, I've found what's happening. Nothing beats having the source code. It turns out it's nothing to do with updating ports, a bent INDEX-8 file or anything like that. Here's what was happening: /etc/periodic/weekly/400.status-pkg calls pkg_version. For each installed port, pkg_version cd's to the port directory and forks a make -V PKGNAME to get the latest version of the package, and if that comes back blank you get the Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/foo/bar/Makefile! error message that was my problem. Immediately before I updated ports I'd been trying to understand the details of the make {build,install}{world,kernel} process as I'm trying to do something vaguely similar to nanobsd. As a result of this playing about I had DESTDIR set in my environment. For some reason having DESTDIR set makes some, but not all, port makefiles fail to set PKGNAME. (E.g. on my box, with the ports updated as of 13:35 UTC yesterday, net/GeoIP doesn't set it, archivers/xz does.) unsetenv DESTDIR cleared the problem. Why a set DESTDIR has this effect, and why it's only on some ports, is something I haven't tracked down yet, and it's going to be a low priority task. If anyone does know why, I'd be interested in the explanation. -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl
On 29/10/2010 11:19, Christopher Illies wrote: I added U:smmsp and M:PLAIN to my /etc/mail/auth/client-info file, but that did not change anything. When I left out the square brackets around the server name in that file, I got another error message in /val/log/maillog: Oct 29 12:05:22 muck sm-mta[42252]: o9TA5Mtt042250: to=christopher.ill...@web.de, ctladdr=ch...@muck.ks.se (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30466, relay=send.ki.se. [130.229.20.28], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Name server: send.ki.se.: host name lookup failure ... odd http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/sm-812.html#812AUTH has an example with no square brackets. Not sure why this would break it for you. (I also set up SSL separately as i'm using plain method but you seem to have that covered.) Could you explain this a bit further, please? I am not clear on how this works. Setting up SSL is done by compiling sendmail with sasl, isn't it? Or is there something else to do? Also, the term plain method confuses me: This does not refer to whether or not you are using ssl? Sorry wrong terminology. That should have been plain mechanism not method. PLAIN mechanism mean that i'm sending the password/user in plain rather than using something like DIGEST-MD5 or any of the other possible mechanisms that can be listed in confAUTH_MECHANISMS in your sendmail .mc file to get a list of whats supported by your relay telnet to it on port 25 and issue an EHLO command. the supported mechanisms are listed following the AUTH keyword. for example for me (11:59:59 ~) 1 $ telnet RELAY.ISP.net 25 Trying 213.xxx.xxx.53... Connected to RELAY.ISP.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 RELAY.ISP.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8/8.13.8; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:00:08 +0100 ehlo unsane.co.uk 250-RELAY.ISP.net Hello foo.ISP.net [195.x.x.102], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN ---THIS ONE. 250-STARTTLS 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP Ignore the ssl comment, I was obviously half asleep, the ssl config I have is for receiving mail over ssl (server side) not sending (client side) I have tried copying your steps for testing, dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `RELAY.ISP.net')dnl FEATURE(`authinfo',`hash /etc/mail/auth/client-info')dnl to ostracod.unsane.co.uk.mc (my machines mc file) [r...@ostracod /etc/mail]# make all /usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/local/share/sendmail/cf/ /usr/local/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 ostracod.unsane.co.uk.mc ostracod.unsane.co.uk.cf [r...@ostracod /etc/mail]# make install install -m 444 ostracod.unsane.co.uk.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf install -m 444 ostracod.unsane.co.uk.submit.cf /etc/mail/submit.cf [r...@ostracod /etc/mail]# then created /etc/mail/auth/client-info with [r...@ostracod /etc/mail]# cat /etc/mail/auth/client-info AuthInfo:RELAY.ISP.net U:smmsp I:USER P:PASSWORD M:PLAIN and then makemap hash client-info client-info restarted sendmail echo This is a test | mail -s Smarthost test vhoff...@domainitdoesntrelayfor.co.uk and it worked. If I made the entry in client-info AuthInfo:[RELAY.ISP.net] U:smmsp I:USER P:PASSWORD M:PLAIN it stopped working. Sorry to bother you with all these questions. Thats fine, what sendmail I do know will be forgotten if i dont use it.. hope these data-points help but it looks like a bit of a works for me without solving your issue. Vince Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Copy all users between systems
I would like to copy all user accounts, including root from an already installed 8.0 system to a fresh new 8.1 system. My plan is to boot into single user mode, then copy these: /etc/passwd /etc/master.passwd /etc/group then run pwd_mkdb and finally restart the system. (Obviously, I also need to copy user home directories) Will this be enough? Did I miss something? Thanks, Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -L ... [odd behaviour ?]
On 10/29/10 13:22, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:13 AM, dangl...@live.com wrote: Thank you for your research and prompt response. The module was available. I tried both: kldload in command line and adding it in loader.conf. Note. In case the module has not been been loaded,as a user, here, one gets 2 messages mount_msdosfs: cannot find or load msdosfs_iconv kernel module AND mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted I wonder what Operation is not permitted as a user and what rights the user needs. sysctl vfs.usermount=1 Although it doesn't seem correct that you can mount that FS if it's already been mounted previously by root when that sysctl is at 0. Hello vfs.usermount is already set. In fact, I can readily mount the filesystem if I do not specify -L I did mount and then soon unmount the filesystem as root with -L d ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -L ... [odd behaviour ?]
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:53 AM, dan gl...@live.com wrote: On 10/29/10 13:22, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:13 AM, dangl...@live.com wrote: Thank you for your research and prompt response. The module was available. I tried both: kldload in command line and adding it in loader.conf. Note. In case the module has not been been loaded,as a user, here, one gets 2 messages mount_msdosfs: cannot find or load msdosfs_iconv kernel module AND mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted I wonder what Operation is not permitted as a user and what rights the user needs. sysctl vfs.usermount=1 Although it doesn't seem correct that you can mount that FS if it's already been mounted previously by root when that sysctl is at 0. Hello vfs.usermount is already set. In fact, I can readily mount the filesystem if I do not specify -L I did mount and then soon unmount the filesystem as root with -L I see now. The loading of the kernel module is not permitted as I think the mount command attempts to load it if necessary. I'm not aware of any method of granting access to user which would allow them to load/unload kernel modules. Only root level privs can do that. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: slightly OT... .
I have some information that the problem is because the Macbook fonts are different from the FreeBSD fonts. Thank you!, thank you very much. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 22:22:26 -0400, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote some files using a MacBook and saved them as .RTF files. And discovered that I couldn't move them to FreeBSD and use AbiWord. What do I to make them work? You could try to use one of the tools provided in the ports collection: a) rtf2latex then continue to remove macros to gain plain text b) rtf2html same game here c) rtfreader d) rtfx this is a tool that gives XML output - maybe usabe for further input to AbiWord e) unrtf includes processing like a) and b), and some more formats Which tool to use depends on how you intnd to further use the documents. If it's just about the text, the pure filter programs should be sufficient. Otherwise, try to load them in OpenOffice and see how you can export them from there; ^A ^C and ^V into a text editor should work from there, too. Oh the joy of nonstandard file formats. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl
Thanks for your explanations, Vince. It got me one step further (I think). ... PLAIN mechanism mean that i'm sending the password/user in plain rather than using something like DIGEST-MD5 or any of the other possible mechanisms that can be listed in confAUTH_MECHANISMS in your sendmail .mc file to get a list of whats supported by your relay telnet to it on port 25 and issue an EHLO command. the supported mechanisms are listed following the AUTH keyword. for example for me (11:59:59 ~) 1 $ telnet RELAY.ISP.net 25 Trying 213.xxx.xxx.53... Connected to RELAY.ISP.net. ... 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN ---THIS ONE. 250-STARTTLS 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP Ok, when I use telnet, this happens: telnet send.ki.se 587 Trying 130.xxx.xxx.26... Connected to send.ki.se. Escape character is '^]'. 220 KIMSX09.user.ki.se Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:55:51 +0200 EHLO 250-KIMSX09.user.ki.se Hello [136.xxx.xxx.214] 250-SIZE 10485760 250-PIPELINING 250-DSN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH GSSAPI NTLM 250-8BITMIME 250-BINARYMIME 250 CHUNKING Although I have no idea what GSSAPI and NTLM are, I remembered that I have seen these abbreviations before: NTLM is an OPTION for cyrus-sasl2, and yes, it is compiled in (WITH_NTLM=true). And GSSAPI appeared first in the mc file: define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl So I changed the authinfo/client-info file to: AuthInfo:[send.ki.se] U:smmsp I:XXX P:YYY M:GSSAPI Still, it does not work: 530 5.7.1 Client was not authenticated Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start kde in 8.1
Hey guys, Yes xorg is installed: [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7 xorg-7.5X.Org complete distribution metaport But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ ls checkXMLkjs dolphin kjscmd kappfinder konqueror kbookmarkmerger konsole kbuildsycoca4 konsoleprofile kconfig_compilerkross kcookiejar4 kshell4 kde4-config kunittestmodrunner kded4 kwrapper4 kdeinit4kwrite kdeinit4_shutdown makekdewidgets kdeinit4_wrappermeinproc4 kdepasswd nepomuk-rcgen kdialog nspluginscan keditbookmarks nspluginviewer kfind preparetips kfmclient servicemenudeinstallation kinfocenter servicemenuinstallation I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install the full KDE 4... thanks for your help On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote: I have kdebase4 installed successfully under freebsd 8.1 I found the following advice on the net with so far isn't working to start it: echo startkde ~/.xinitrc I have attempted startx but the system doesn't know about it. may I have a suggestion to proceed? Is xorg installed? % pkg_info -Ix xorg-7 If it's installed, rehash. -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start kde in 8.1
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote: Hey guys, Yes xorg is installed: [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7 xorg-7.5X.Org complete distribution metaport But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin ... I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install the full KDE 4... startkde is in kdebase4-workspace, but you can't install any of the KDE sub-ports by themselves and expect it to run. Install x11/kde4 for the whole thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start kde in 8.1
definitely on it!! it takes a while but I'm sure it'll be worth it... thanks On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Tim Dunphy wrote: Hey guys, Yes xorg is installed: [bluethu...@bsd1 /usr/local/kde4/bin]$ pkg_info -Ix xorg-7 xorg-7.5 X.Org complete distribution metaport But startkde does not appear to be in /usr/local/kde4/bin ... I have so far only installed kde4base.. I am attempting to install the full KDE 4... startkde is in kdebase4-workspace, but you can't install any of the KDE sub-ports by themselves and expect it to run. Install x11/kde4 for the whole thing. -- Here's my RSA Public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5A4873A9 Share and enjoy!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Resetting the sound system
Dear Mark, Liontaur wrote: 2010/10/28 Michaël Grünewaldmichaelgrunew...@yahoo.fr the audio software I use sometimes seems to handle unappropriately its input and leave the sound system in a strange state. When this happens, the lowest frequencies of the played sound are very attenuated and what is still audible sounds unpleasantly metallic. Rebooting the machine immediately brings up the sound system in shape again, but it would be nice if they were a more sensible way to reset it! Not sure if there's an easier way, but if you've got the audio driver kldloaded then just unload and reload it. If it's compiled in your kernel then I don't know. thank you very much for your answer. I have got the audio driver compiled in the kernel, so I can not use your tip unless I remove this module of the kernel. Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Copy all users between systems
On 29/10/2010 12:46, Laszlo Nagy wrote: I would like to copy all user accounts, including root from an already installed 8.0 system to a fresh new 8.1 system. My plan is to boot into single user mode, then copy these: /etc/passwd /etc/master.passwd /etc/group then run pwd_mkdb and finally restart the system. (Obviously, I also need to copy user home directories) Will this be enough? Did I miss something? That should be sufficient, assuming you aren't using NIS or LDAP or some other userdb. AFAIR there weren't any changes to the standard system accounts between 8.0 and 8.1, but in general you should also run 'mergemaster -p' to merge in any such when copying the master.passwd file between different OS versions. (mergemaster -p does some other stuff besides merging the system user accounts, but it's all pretty harmless) Restarting the system may not actually be necessary, but it's a good idea if you can spare the down-time. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl
On 29/10/2010 14:49, Christopher Illies wrote: Although I have no idea what GSSAPI and NTLM are, I remembered that I have seen these abbreviations before: NTLM is an OPTION for cyrus-sasl2, and yes, it is compiled in (WITH_NTLM=true). And GSSAPI appeared first in the mc file: GSSAPI is the Generic Security Services Application Program Interface and NTLM is NT Lan Manager -- they are both authentication systems popular amongst various generations of Microsoft OSes. GSSAPI is actually based on that old Unix stalwart: Kerberos, and hence is also fairly popular amongst non-Microsoft types. They are some of the authentication mechanisms that come as standard with SASL implementations. Unless you know that you do need them, you almost certainly don't. You can turn off support for those mechanisms at the point of compiling cyrus-sasl2, or you can take them out of the configuration for the various SASL consumers if you want. They are pretty much harmless though, so just doing nothing is also a viable option[*]. Cheers, Matthew [*] I have run into situations where not compiling them into various software made everything run much more smoothly: however, those were exceptional circumstances, and probably a temporary artefact of the particular software versions. Your mileage will probably vary. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sendmail as client via smarthost and ssl
On 29/10/2010 14:49, Christopher Illies wrote: Thanks for your explanations, Vince. It got me one step further (I think). ... Ok, when I use telnet, this happens: telnet send.ki.se 587 Trying 130.xxx.xxx.26... Connected to send.ki.se. Escape character is '^]'. 220 KIMSX09.user.ki.se Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:55:51 +0200 EHLO 250-KIMSX09.user.ki.se Hello [136.xxx.xxx.214] 250-SIZE 10485760 250-PIPELINING 250-DSN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH GSSAPI NTLM 250-8BITMIME 250-BINARYMIME 250 CHUNKING Although I have no idea what GSSAPI and NTLM are, I remembered that I have seen these abbreviations before: NTLM is an OPTION for cyrus-sasl2, and yes, it is compiled in (WITH_NTLM=true). And GSSAPI appeared first in the mc file: define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl So I changed the authinfo/client-info file to: AuthInfo:[send.ki.se] U:smmsp I:XXX P:YYY M:GSSAPI Still, it does not work: 530 5.7.1 Client was not authenticated I'd guess from here that the microsoft mail server (i'd say exchange but its part of IIS these days i think) is being awkward. GSSAPI is kerberos related i believe, NTLM is a windows method from what i remember. I'm not familiar with either i'm afraid. Vince Christopher ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Server hardware
Hello, I'm getting ready to buy a new server system (running FreeBSD of course) for a small business. I have always before bought off-the-shelf parts and built my own, but am thinking of getting a packaged system this time. I want something fairly horsey. Xeon(s), 8-16gb ram, several terabytes storage, etc. The system will run at least one VM (virtualbox) at all times, and I've been thinking about using an SSD for the system drive and database storage, and a RAID for the rest. My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: man(1) output error
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:30:00 -0400, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: % man csh | less +/rehash but after exiting less: Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 No manual entry for csh This error seems new. I can confirm that this does occur on 8.1-RELEASE and does not occur on 8.1-STABLE r213338. Must be something older - I can confirm this for 7-STABLE (as of Aug 2008) on my home system. The error message appears when the man program (less) is quit by typing 'q'. The searching process itself works as intended. % man csh | less +/rehash rehash Causes the internal hash table of the contents of the directo- ries in the path variable to be recomputed. This is needed if [...] Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 No manual entry for csh % -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Undefined symbol php_pcre_exec
Hi FreeBSD-Questions-readers, This question is not exactly FreeBSD, but since I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE on this server I was hoping this community would be able to give me some help. I'm trying to install the latest version (3.8.2144) of ResourceSpace ( http://www.resourcespace.org/ - open source digital assets management) on a FreeBSD 8.0 server running the latetst version of Apache 2.2.16, PHP5.3.3 and mysql 5.1.45. On the first installation html page (/pages/setup.php) I fill inn all the fields (database user, name, host and path to binaries etc) and click Begin installation. This is as far as I get. In Firefox I get a download window asking me to save or open setup.php, in Safari I get an error message and in IE I get IE cannot display this page error. So I begin to dig... Tried several databases/user/passwords, with or without paths to binaries, but still the same problem. So I check my http error log and I notice that every time I click Begin installation I get a line with this in my logfile: My http error log shows this line every time I click Begin installation: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/filter.so: Undefined symbol php_pcre_exec So I thought maybe my PHP installation is broken or I have missed some modules. Tried reinstalling (with make rmconfig first), I even installed all modules and did the same with Apache - several times. Problem still there. So I start search for an answer and a Google search comes up with a reference to /usr/ports/UPDATING where it says something like php_pcre is from version 5.x now a part of the php core and can't be installed alone as an additional package to PHP. Could this have anything to do with my problems? I'm running out of ideas here and I was hoping someone could help me out or give me some pointers.. Thanks a lot! Best regards, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Recovering a DVD
I have a back up DVD that I cannot mount. dd won't read /dev/acd0 with an error dd: /dev/acd0: Input/output error.Tried dvdisaster but it can't find my drive. Any pointers you can offer in getting this data off this disc are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recovering a DVD
On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Jason C. Wells wrote: I have a back up DVD that I cannot mount. dd won't read /dev/acd0 with an error dd: /dev/acd0: Input/output error.Tried dvdisaster but it can't find my drive. Any pointers you can offer in getting this data off this disc are greatly appreciated. Try adding bs=2048 or bs=32768 to your dd line...? Also, what does atacontrol list say about your DVD drive? Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -L ... [odd behaviour ?]
2010/10/29 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:53 AM, dan gl...@live.com wrote: On 10/29/10 13:22, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:13 AM, dangl...@live.com wrote: Thank you for your research and prompt response. The module was available. I tried both: kldload in command line and adding it in loader.conf. Note. In case the module has not been been loaded,as a user, here, one gets 2 messages mount_msdosfs: cannot find or load msdosfs_iconv kernel module AND mount_msdosfs: msdosfs_iconv: Operation not permitted I wonder what Operation is not permitted as a user and what rights the user needs. sysctl vfs.usermount=1 Although it doesn't seem correct that you can mount that FS if it's already been mounted previously by root when that sysctl is at 0. Hello vfs.usermount is already set. In fact, I can readily mount the filesystem if I do not specify -L I did mount and then soon unmount the filesystem as root with -L I see now. The loading of the kernel module is not permitted as I think the mount command attempts to load it if necessary. I'm not aware of any method of granting access to user which would allow them to load/unload kernel modules. Only root level privs can do that. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I have the same trouble, I usually mount device by user with vfs.usermount=1 but for libiconv I need root... -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm getting ready to buy a new server system (running FreeBSD of course) for a small business. I have always before bought off-the-shelf parts and built my own, but am thinking of getting a packaged system this time. I want something fairly horsey. Xeon(s), 8-16gb ram, several terabytes storage, etc. The system will run at least one VM (virtualbox) at all times, and I've been thinking about using an SSD for the system drive and database storage, and a RAID for the rest. My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Might I suggest checking out: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html ? -- Nathan Vidican nat...@vidican.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Undefined symbol php_pcre_exec
I'd try `pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/filter.so` to determine which port is responsible for that file - however it sounds imho quiet old. (I'd say it comes from security/php5-filter) My guess would be that it is a leftover from some older not properly removed library/program which now causes problems. On 10/29/10 19:34, Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi FreeBSD-Questions-readers, This question is not exactly FreeBSD, but since I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE on this server I was hoping this community would be able to give me some help. I'm trying to install the latest version (3.8.2144) of ResourceSpace ( http://www.resourcespace.org/ - open source digital assets management) on a FreeBSD 8.0 server running the latetst version of Apache 2.2.16, PHP5.3.3 and mysql 5.1.45. On the first installation html page (/pages/setup.php) I fill inn all the fields (database user, name, host and path to binaries etc) and click Begin installation. This is as far as I get. In Firefox I get a download window asking me to save or open setup.php, in Safari I get an error message and in IE I get IE cannot display this page error. So I begin to dig... Tried several databases/user/passwords, with or without paths to binaries, but still the same problem. So I check my http error log and I notice that every time I click Begin installation I get a line with this in my logfile: My http error log shows this line every time I click Begin installation: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/filter.so: Undefined symbol php_pcre_exec So I thought maybe my PHP installation is broken or I have missed some modules. Tried reinstalling (with make rmconfig first), I even installed all modules and did the same with Apache - several times. Problem still there. So I start search for an answer and a Google search comes up with a reference to /usr/ports/UPDATING where it says something like php_pcre is from version 5.x now a part of the php core and can't be installed alone as an additional package to PHP. Could this have anything to do with my problems? I'm running out of ideas here and I was hoping someone could help me out or give me some pointers.. Thanks a lot! Best regards, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I bought a used HP Proliant DL385 for about $300 on ebay, then loaded it up with 8GB of RAM (making a total of 12GB) for another $200. Works great, FBSD 8.1 groks all the controllers, even produces appropriate syslog messages when I pull a disk out from the RAID and replace it. I got it when I realized it included a good remote console and the whole thing was about the same price as an add-on remote console for my old server. It's got six 73GB 15K rpm disks, for a total of 360GB usable very fast disk, which sounds like less than you want, but you get get these things with six hot swap SATA slots and put in whatever disks you want. They're kind of pricey when new, but you can usually find last year's model cheap on ebay. I also used to build my own, but at prices like this there's no point. It's noisy and power hungry, so I'd only put it in a data center, not in my office. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote: My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. http://www.ixsystems.com/ -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recovering a DVD
Hi, Reference: From: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:04:15 -0700 Message-id: 3ca64aa4-0063-4207-8e72-4eb9396b5...@mac.com Chuck Swiger wrote: On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Jason C. Wells wrote: I have a back up DVD that I cannot mount. dd won't read /dev/acd0 with an error dd: /dev/acd0: Input/output error.Tried dvdisaster but it can't find my drive. Any pointers you can offer in getting this data off this disc are greatly appreciated. Try adding bs=2048 or bs=32768 to your dd line...? Also, what does atacontrol list say about your DVD drive? /usr/ports/sysutils/vobcopy useful on audio video content, dont know about `normal' data. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not HTML, quoted-printable base 64 spam formats. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recovering a DVD
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Jason C. Wells j...@speakeasy.net wrote: I have a back up DVD that I cannot mount. dd won't read /dev/acd0 with an error dd: /dev/acd0: Input/output error.Tried dvdisaster but it can't find my drive. Any pointers you can offer in getting this data off this disc are greatly appreciated. Yeah dvdisaster documentation leaves something to be desired. A tiny, unauthorive FAQ is what you're supposed to follow. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149020 On the other hand, you miss understand what dvdisaster is capable of. It will not help as you're supposed to use it BEFORE it goes bad. I would try Chuck's suggestion first then maybe some physical media repair techniques. Are you sure the DVD was ever usable? -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: man(1) output error
Quoth Polytropon on Friday, 29 October 2010: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:30:00 -0400, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: % man csh | less +/rehash but after exiting less: Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 No manual entry for csh This error seems new. I can confirm that this does occur on 8.1-RELEASE and does not occur on 8.1-STABLE r213338. Must be something older - I can confirm this for 7-STABLE (as of Aug 2008) on my home system. The error message appears when the man program (less) is quit by typing 'q'. The searching process itself works as intended. % man csh | less +/rehash rehash Causes the internal hash table of the contents of the directo- ries in the path variable to be recomputed. This is needed if [...] Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 36096 No manual entry for csh % (meant to reply to list) I can confirm that the very latest 8.1-STABLE (csup and build this morning) reproduces the problem. uname -a: FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #85: Fri Oct 29 10:27:19 PDT 2010 sterl...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIBERTAS amd64 -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpvgHjVwg7y4.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeBSD8.1 Can't get Syslog file to Log dhcpd Solved.
Ah, the havoc of one stray space at the beginning of a line. I had noticed that all the other examples of various logs one could create in syslog.conf worked right. What on Earth was so special about: *.info;auth.info;mail.warning;cron.warning /var/log/syslog It's that one stray space before the first asterisk. I removed it and everything started working. Martin McCormick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Moving to RAID1
Hello, i have a freebsd(7.3) dedicated server with one hard disk.It have partitions for root and swap only.I want to setup RAID1 by adding one more hard disk.i found in freebsd handbook about setting up RAID1 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-mirror.html .I only have remote access to the server.Will i lose data by doing it?Anyways to make sure in the procedure of setting up raid1 that i shouldn't have to go single user mode or change something at the boot prompt when rebooting after this is setup. Thank you Rihaz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Undefined symbol php_pcre_exec
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Armin Pirkovitsch ar...@frozen-zone.orgwrote: I'd try `pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/filter.so` to determine which port is responsible for that file - however it sounds imho quiet old. (I'd say it comes from security/php5-filter) My guess would be that it is a leftover from some older not properly removed library/program which now causes problems. You were right!!! Thanks a lot!!! I had version 5.3.2 on my system and the latest version in my ports was 5.3.3. An upgrade too care of the problem. Now I'm heading forward to fight new problems (or challenges if you like)! ;-) Thanks again and best regards, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success
On 10/25/2010 09:18 PM, Michael D. Norwick wrote: I have not looked at PC-BSD because I thought the BSD's were all somewhat similar (powerful, stable, and secure). I only moved off of Debian due to feature bloat and the 'Fedoraizing' it (debian) is experiencing. Richard Bejtlich talks so highly of FreeBSD in his TAO of Network Security Monitoring book. Anyway, please forgive me for not providing more information on the above build issue. I should have been more patient. I remember seeing that the Debian Project is elevating their GNU/kFreeBSD distro set to official for Lenny. I use FreeBSD for my home server, Debian Lenny for my laptop and our new lab machines (running EDA tools)... and am stuck with Solaris for the time being. *jedi hand wave* Pay no attention to that Win7 VM--it's just there for OneNote 2010. --Joseph Lenox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:52:22AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: Hello, I'm getting ready to buy a new server system (running FreeBSD of course) for a small business. I have always before bought off-the-shelf parts and built my own, but am thinking of getting a packaged system this time. I want something fairly horsey. Xeon(s), 8-16gb ram, several terabytes storage, etc. The system will run at least one VM (virtualbox) at all times, and I've been thinking about using an SSD for the system drive and database storage, and a RAID for the rest. My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. I don't know about recommended for FreeBSd, but they can come with FreeBSD loaded. Here are some addresses for hardware that is supposed to be very FreeBSD friendly.I haven't had any contact with any of them in quite a while, so I don't have any recent information. But I have heard each spoken well of in the past. http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.servaris.com/ This one used to be called 'FreeBSD Systems' Guess they have branched out or something. http://www.ironsystems.com/ http://eracks.com/ Besides these specialty systems I have done well with Dell PowerEdge and HP Servers, though I have only built 4 or 5 HP servers with FreeBSD. All worked well except one HP 350 arrived with a motherboard DOA. They replaced it promptly and it worked fine after that. jerry Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving to RAID1
Hi: Using gmirror you wont loose any data, just be carefully editing fstab to point the right devices (triple check). Its actually quite easy. Anyway if you can get console access its better just for precaution. Diego Arias On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jerrin slackma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i have a freebsd(7.3) dedicated server with one hard disk.It have partitions for root and swap only.I want to setup RAID1 by adding one more hard disk.i found in freebsd handbook about setting up RAID1 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-mirror.html .I only have remote access to the server.Will i lose data by doing it?Anyways to make sure in the procedure of setting up raid1 that i shouldn't have to go single user mode or change something at the boot prompt when rebooting after this is setup. Thank you Rihaz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Still Going Strong!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moving to RAID1
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jerrin slackma...@gmail.com wrote: i have a freebsd(7.3) dedicated server with one hard disk.It have partitions for root and swap only.I want to setup RAID1 by adding one more hard disk.i found in freebsd handbook about setting up RAID1 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-mirror.html .I only have remote access to the server.Will i lose data by doing it? If you do it correct way you will not. It's possible if you make a mistake and do something like mirror the wrong way you would. Anyways to make sure in the procedure of setting up raid1 that i shouldn't have to go single user mode or change something at the boot prompt when rebooting after this is setup. Again if you do it incorrectly you may need to resort to these procedures. However if you follow the handbook accurately you should be fine. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
was FreeBSD 8.1 success, now PC-BSD success
Good Day; I just completed a new PC-BSD install on the same machine I last posted a success message for FreeBSD 8.1. I do not have time to fiddle much right now and upgrading FreeBSD 8.1 from ports was giving me fits. But, living on the edge has it's price. I took the advise provided by responders to my original post and downloaded the PC-BSD net install CD and the dvd.iso (5 hours) then started the install early this evening. I got both so I would be prepared to install locally if the net install didn't work or, from the net if the DVD did not work. Both turned out to be true however. I burned 2 or 3 dvd's that panic'd shortly after the modules loaded. It did not matter whether I had ACPI enabled or not. The net install CD recognized my Intel EtherExpress Pro card but refused to start an FTP session to download the packages. I had a USB dvd-rom drive and thankfully I was able to use it to load base, packages, ports, and src from the dvd.iso after performing the setup from the CD. Initial impressions: 1. Nice installation program (I'm coming from the debian installer which seems to be the standard against which others are measured) 2. Sensible hard disk partitioner 'advanced' mode 3. Very cool logo 4. Xorg configured graphics on the first run 5. Do not like the default passwordless login I'm still running on the first tank of gas so I guess I will post when I've had more time behind the wheel. Thank You, Again, great job by the PC-BSD development team! Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org