Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages
On 22/05/2011 06:35, Xn Nooby wrote: I'm a struggling nooby. I am trying to install firefox 4 on a fresh 8.2 installation. I want to the core system to track the errata branch, and get binary packages from 8-stable (which has firefox 4). I installed FreeBSD 8.2 release. # freebsd-update fetch install rebooted # portsnap fetch extract use BASH shell # export PACKAGESITE=ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/Latest/; installed x11 and icewm # pkg_add -r firefox get perl conflict between 5.10 and 5.12 # pkg_add -fr firefox firefox installs but I get firefox3 instead of firefox 4.0 # pkg_info| grep firefox shows firefox-3.6.13,1 trying to use source # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox # make install clean get errors about firefox 4.0.1 needing nspr=4.8.7 # pkg_add -r nspr says nspr-4.8.6 or older is already installed # portsnap fetch update # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # make install # portmaster --check-depends # portmaster www/firefox Portmaster will upgrade any out-of-date dependencies for you, which will include upgrading devel/nspr to version 4.8.7 (the latest available in ports at this time) as part of the process of compiling and installing the software from ports. Your experience illustrates some of the biggest problems with ports/packages -- there's no concept of 'alternate dependencies' in compiled packages. This means that if you install software that has, eg. a dependency on perl using packages from ftp.freebsd.org, then you will have to install the default lang/perl5.10 perl port. If you install from source using the ports then the system is a lot more flexible and will allow you to mix and match whatever versions you require a lot more freely. -- similarly, the dependencies recorded in a pkg list exactly the versions they were compiled against. pkg_add will accept a *newer* version of a pkg when it is trying pull down any dependency packages, but not an older one, even if the software would work perfectly well when compiled against the older version. There isn't a mechanism for saying eg. this pkg needs any version of foobar=3.1.459 because that's where some critical functionality was introduced -- just using the standard pkg tools doesn't give you much room to understand what alternative versions of software are available, or guide you in choosing between them. So there are currently 8 different ports named matching 'firefox*', including 3 different upstream software versions, plus options to do with internationalization. You'ld need to investigate the pkg-descr files via http://www.freebsd.org/ports or http://www.freshports.org/ or by installing the ports tree, in order to make an informed choice (and you'ld need to know that those resources existed; not necessarily obvious to a beginner). -- it can be difficult to mix and match pkgs from several different repositories or from a mixture of packages and ported software; not because of any functional difference between pkgs and ports (because there isn't any) but because of dependency and version conflicts. Also, the concept of 'multiple package repositories' hasn't really penetrated the FreeBSD psyche. If you are using pkgs but not from the official FreeBSD pkg archive, then you've probably rolled your own local pkg system which you use exclusively. There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method, albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages
Xn Nooby, On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a struggling nooby. I am trying to install firefox 4 on a fresh 8.2 installation. I want to the core system to track the errata branch, and get binary packages from 8-stable (which has firefox 4). I installed FreeBSD 8.2 release. # freebsd-update fetch install rebooted # portsnap fetch extract use BASH shell # export PACKAGESITE=ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/Latest/; installed x11 and icewm # pkg_add -r firefox get perl conflict between 5.10 and 5.12 # pkg_add -fr firefox firefox installs but I get firefox3 instead of firefox 4.0 # pkg_info| grep firefox shows firefox-3.6.13,1 trying to use source # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox # make install clean get errors about firefox 4.0.1 needing nspr=4.8.7 # pkg_add -r nspr says nspr-4.8.6 or older is already installed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Try deleting firefox # pkg_del firefox if this fails, then cd to /usr/ports/www/firefox # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox/ # make deinstall and from here try # make install clean or Then # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox # make install clean I had a similar problem when I was upgrading to 8.2, but I worked it out with ports. I advise you to do the same. If you encounter a problem post it. Many folks on the list are very kind and knowledgeable and can advise a strategy to fix your problem. Regards, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD upgrade from 7.4 Stable to 8.2
On 22 May 2011 10:30, Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net wrote: Just read that a save upgrade from my current 7.4 version would be easy by performing: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.2-RELEASE # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install Are there any pitfalls to this? regards, Jos Chrispijn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org should work, although I have always done it the src way. One thing to watch out for is device names changing. I have it on a few boxes I did that jump on. Only really an issue if you are doing it remotely without some kind of ilom. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xfce4.8 Trash?
Hello, Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Any tip? Thunar-1.2.1_1 garcon-0.1.7 gtk-xfce-engine-2.8.1 libexo-0.6.0 libxfce4gui-4.8.1 libxfce4menu-4.8.0 libxfce4util-4.8.1 mousepad-0.2.16_8 orage-4.8.1 xfce-4.8 xfce4-appfinder-4.8.0 xfce4-conf-4.8.0 xfce4-desktop-4.8.2 xfce4-mixer-4.8.0 xfce4-panel-4.8.3 xfce4-print-4.6.1_7 xfce4-session-4.8.1 xfce4-settings-4.8.1 xfce4-tumbler-0.1.21 xfce4-utils-4.8.1_1 xfce4-wm-4.8.1 xfce4-wm-themes-4.6.0_1 Thanks, regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD upgrade from 7.4 Stable to 8.2
Jos Chrispijn wrote: Just read that a save upgrade from my current 7.4 version would be easy by performing: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.2-RELEASE # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install Are there any pitfalls to this? I only have done the src methods, but in reading the lists I seem to remember people saying the freebsd-update binary approach is only supposed to be used with GENERIC kernels. If you have a custom kernel maybe it will cause problem? Might be a gotcha to get confirmed by more knowledgeable persons than me first. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
You have 1 new message from Jeffrey!
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Re: FreeBSD upgrade from 7.4 Stable to 8.2
--As of May 22, 2011 11:30:57 AM +0200, Jos Chrispijn is alleged to have said: Just read that a save upgrade from my current 7.4 version would be easy by performing: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.2-RELEASE # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install Are there any pitfalls to this? --As for the rest, it is mine. That's a supported upgrade, so it should work fine. If you want to double-check anything, you could get the source for 8.2-RELEASE and read src/UPDATING. Note that most of those issues should be taken care of by the above process, but it will give you an idea of what major changes have been made that you should be aware of. I would of course do a backup before any major upgrade. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SATA Host Adapter Recommendation
--As of May 21, 2011 7:26:22 PM -0700, Jason C. Wells is alleged to have said: I am looking to get 2 sata host adapters. The mandatory requirements are good freebsd support and hot swap capability. I plan to use gmirror. I have discovered that my onboard chipsets don't support hot swap. --As for the rest, it is mine. While I will be reading this thread with interest, as I'm looking to buy a SATA adaptor sometime in the moderate future, I do have one other thought: Before you assume your onboard chipsets don't support hot swap, check your BIOS settings. Many boards still ship with their BIOS set to run everything in 'legacy' mode, which doesn't support hot swap. Make sure there isn't a switch for a AHCI mode that needs to be flipped. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xfce4.8 Trash?
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org wrote: Hello, Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Have you tried this solution: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=796321+0+archive/2007/freebsd-ports/20070204.freebsd-ports ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Filename containing French characters ?
Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Open a file using what program? Do you have permission to read/write to the file? What is the file called? You need to give us more data to help you. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xfce4.8 Trash?
Le Sun, 22 May 2011 10:09:37 -0400, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com a écrit : Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Have you tried this solution: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=796321+0+archive/2007/freebsd-ports/20070204.freebsd-ports Yes already tried this. I've rebuilt thunar to be sure this option was set but no luck. Thanks anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xfce4.8 Trash?
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org wrote: Le Sun, 22 May 2011 10:09:37 -0400, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com a écrit : Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Have you tried this solution: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=796321+0+archive/2007/freebsd-ports/20070204.freebsd-ports Yes already tried this. I've rebuilt thunar to be sure this option was set but no luck. Thanks anyway. You may also want to post this problem to freebsd-ports and to the xfce lists: http://www.xfce.org/community ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xfce4.8 Trash?
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org wrote: Le Sun, 22 May 2011 10:09:37 -0400, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com a écrit : Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Have you tried this solution: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=796321+0+archive/2007/freebsd-ports/20070204.freebsd-ports Yes already tried this. I've rebuilt thunar to be sure this option was set but no luck. Thanks anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Try installing devel/gvfs Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xfce4.8 Trash?
Le Sun, 22 May 2011 18:56:11 +0300, George Liaskos geo.lias...@gmail.com a écrit : Since Xfce 4.8 the trash applet does not work : Can't connect to the trash. I've googled a bit but can't find any solution (Thunar, dbus and hal are running). This is a fresh install and not an update. Try installing devel/gvfs YES! good answer. Thanks a lot to all. Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
Hello, Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Skype client for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time when M$ will integrate Skype into its desktop and stop deliver binaries for Linux; I have spent some time to get PTlib, Opal and Ekiga compiled directly from its repositories in SVN and Git, and fixed the bugs to let Ekiga detect the devices /dev/video0 (created by pwc.ko or webcamd) and /dev/dsp* sound devices. The result is documented here: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD If someone wants to give me a call at sip:@ekiga.net, just contact me offlist :-) HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
В Sun, 22 May 2011 19:10:33 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de пишет: Hello, Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Skype client for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time when M$ will integrate Skype into its desktop and stop deliver binaries for Linux; I have spent some time to get PTlib, Opal and Ekiga compiled directly from its repositories in SVN and Git, and fixed the bugs to let Ekiga detect the devices /dev/video0 (created by pwc.ko or webcamd) and /dev/dsp* sound devices. The result is documented here: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD If someone wants to give me a call at sip:@ekiga.net, just contact me offlist :-) HIH matthias In that case - why not upgrade the port net/ekiga3 ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
Matthias == Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: Matthias Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Matthias Skype client for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time Matthias when M$ will integrate Skype into its desktop and stop Matthias deliver binaries for Linux; Consider Jitsi, which is written in Java, and supports all modern SIP and XMPP and IM (and soon full Gtalk) protocols, with a built in broad list of audio and video codecs. With the proper use of the free (or paid) PSTN-to-SIP bridges, it can nearly completely replace Skype, at least for point-to-point audio/video. (No SILK though... there's nothing that comes close, sadly.) I interviewed the lead developer for FLOSS Weekly a few weeks back... sounds quite promising. http://twit.tv/floss162 -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
В Sun, 22 May 2011 10:44:50 -0700 mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) пишет: Matthias == Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: Matthias Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Matthias Skype client for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time Matthias when M$ will integrate Skype into its desktop and stop Matthias deliver binaries for Linux; Consider Jitsi, which is written in Java, and supports all modern SIP and XMPP and IM (and soon full Gtalk) protocols, with a built in broad list of audio and video codecs. With the proper use of the free (or paid) PSTN-to-SIP bridges, it can nearly completely replace Skype, at least for point-to-point audio/video. (No SILK though... there's nothing that comes close, sadly.) I interviewed the lead developer for FLOSS Weekly a few weeks back... sounds quite promising. http://twit.tv/floss162 I do not think that bind to Java is a good idea ... IMHO ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Install ImageMagick configured with Autotrace switch
Hello, I am trying to install ImageMagick and Autotrace ports but I need to configure Imagemagick to work with Autotrace so it processes raster images to the vector svg format properly. This is what is recommended from the imagemagick website to do, but I don't know the commands to type in freebsd to accomplish: Quote: For this to work however the 'development' AutoTrace library must be installed, and IM configured with a --with-autotrace switch. So do I install with make --with-autotrace then make install --with-autotrace and lastly make clean? I already have ImageMagick and Autotrace installed but not configured together so I'm assuming I will have to uninstall imagemagick first then reinstall it with the autotrace switch? Thanks all! Angelo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
On Sun, 22 May 2011 19:10:33 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de articulated: Now, as M$ bought Skype, we should stop wining for a native Skype client for FreeBSD and should prepare us for the time when M$ will integrate Skype into its desktop and stop deliver binaries for Linux; Honestly, where do you get this garbage from. This is just another prime example of FUD rearing its ugly head. Microsoft bought Skype with the stated purpose of going toe to toe with Apple in the consumer market and leapfrog competitors by incorporating the service into its business software. Free Skype-style communications services aimed at consumers have effectively been banned in some Middle East countries such as the UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Some countries are reluctant to allow free mobile phone voice calling over the internet because it could endanger the huge long-term investment countries such as the UAE have made in their telecommunications infrastructure. However, analysts believe it is in the business rather than the consumer space where the Skype acquisition may first start to pay off. Allowing Microsoft to introduce Skype-style video conferencing into its business offering could be the start of a more general acceptance of free and low-cost internet voice and video conferencing. Limiting or eliminating operating systems other than Microsoft's own platforms would be counter productive and could lead to a decreased monetary model. Obviously, that is something that Microsoft does not intentionally do. It didn't pay $8.5 billion just to jettison users. Personally, I am expecting the overall quality of the product to improve. I would not expect them to craft a specific model just for FreeBSD though. Then again, one doesn't exist now either. However, I would fully expect them to maintain and improve on a model tailored for Linux. It is in their best interest. -- Jerry jerry+f...@seibercom.net ''~`` ( o o ) +--.oooO--(_)--Oooo.--+ | | |.oooO| |( ) Oooo.| +-\ (( )+ \_)) / (_/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages
# portsnap fetch update # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # make install # portmaster --check-depends # portmaster www/firefox Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'. There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method, albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations. I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to circumvent these problems. I will read up on pkgNG, too. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?
HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none on how to create a FreeBSD desktop. Would someone will be willing to put one together? I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an appliance. The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it as an example for setting up their own systems. I suspect a lot of people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an underpowered VM would be a good proxy. Some parameters for the guide could be: - uses 8.2 installer - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update - tracks 8-stable branch for ports - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!) - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ? - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ? - ideally demonstrates best practices - looks good, with nice fonts - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that) - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+ Here is the page for Debian Lenny as an example: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-debian-lenny I know the Handbook has everything it it, but I am looking for something that can leverage the fact that in a VM the hardware is known in advance. The instructions could then be very direct, and would not have to cover all possible situations. They would simply be do exactly these commands. Admittedly I am asking for what I need, but there might be others who could benefit. I have been trying to make a script to do these automatically, but I am still having problems understanding certain things. I could help some, by testing, and I can write an install script to automate anything that I can understand. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Install ImageMagick configured with Autotrace switch
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/05/22 10:43:52 -0700 Angelo aussie...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : A I am trying to install ImageMagick and Autotrace ports but I need to A configure Imagemagick to work with Autotrace so it processes raster images A to the vector svg format properly. A A This is what is recommended from the imagemagick website to do, but I don't A know the commands to type in freebsd to accomplish: Quote: For this to work A however the 'development' AutoTrace library must be installed, and IM A configured with a --with-autotrace switch. You'd better tweak the graphics/ImageMagick port for this. Its Makefile should have the 'CONFIGURE_ARGS =+' -like strings you can use as a sample for the WITH_* option you can easily add. Be sure to include the DEPENDS variable update for your library, too. Feel free to submit patch for that port then. The dependence library port should be already present on the ports tree, too. A So do I install with make --with-autotrace then make A install --with-autotrace and lastly make clean? This is about ImageMagick's ./configure I think. A I already have ImageMagick and Autotrace installed but not configured A together so I'm assuming I will have to uninstall imagemagick first then A reinstall it with the autotrace switch? uninstall and compile anew, 'make clean' is the best to ensure this before 'make'. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?
On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:17:50 -0400, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none on how to create a FreeBSD desktop. Would someone will be willing to put one together? U think the majority of FreeBSD users who use the system on their desktop won't agree on the one desktop, as everyone I've encountered so far has different preferences and requirements. So a generalized statement is quite hard. There are systems with preconfigured desktops, such as PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE. I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an appliance. But that would be a good starting point for learning on how the inventors of VirtualBSD (to name an appliance) have done it, and build an own system from there on, keeping The FreeBSD Handbook at hand. See http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for details. The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it as an example for setting up their own systems. I'm sure the handbook's sections about the required parts can be very easily applied to virtual hardware, as they are generic enough to cover them. I suspect a lot of people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an underpowered VM would be a good proxy. Due to hardware limitations (incompatible parts) mostly found in modern laptops, I would assume that FreeBSD users prefer running the system on hardware that is known to work... Some parameters for the guide could be: - uses 8.2 installer - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update - tracks 8-stable branch for ports Depends on preferred usage paradigm. - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!) There are laptops with resources equal to a fullblown desktop machine. :-) - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps That would be covered by how to install additional software, which means pkg_add, make install, or a port management tool. Maybe you refer to how to involve graphical port management abstractors? - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ? Or WindowMaker? :-) - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ? Until it stops working. :-) - ideally demonstrates best practices Also depends on requirements, by users or by setting in which the system should be used (e. g. security policies, prohibition of standard means of communication and so on). - looks good, with nice fonts Looks good also depends VERY. - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that) Would they? :-) I know that average desktop users seem to get addicted to certain bling, but some lines above, you mentioned that laptops are slow, and the resources required for eye candy... are they included here? - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+ Also the standard means apply here. Here is the page for Debian Lenny as an example: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-debian-lenny Yes, a very pictural step-by-step guide. For FreeBSD users who traditionally are educated in how UNIX in general and FreeBSD in special case do need to be operated, this may not be the primary kind of information supply, but I may be wrong here. I know the Handbook has everything it it, but I am looking for something that can leverage the fact that in a VM the hardware is known in advance. The instructions could then be very direct, and would not have to cover all possible situations. They would simply be do exactly these commands. But then this would depend on the VM's settings that needed to be in the preface, and this would be the same as keeping instructions generic and giving the additional advice of change this if needed. Admittedly I am asking for what I need, but there might be others who could benefit. That's understandable, but could you describe the target audience a bit better? I have been trying to make a script to do these automatically, but I am still having problems understanding certain things. And I may predict that exactly those things are needed to be understood to get the whole show running. Learning by doing is nothing wrong here, although it requires some reading. I could help some, by testing, and I can write an install script to automate anything that I can understand. I know that the default installer sysinstall has a feature for scripting, but you could easily write your own installer that uses e. g. ZFS or GPT initialisation for the (virtual) disk instead of the traditional run of fdisk + disklabel + newfs. Providing packages for the required software (and ALL their dependencies) would also be a good step, so installation could even be done in an offline environment without ending with broken software. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
Re: Other lists exist too - Was Re: Hardware Recovery Company
Hi Robert, Thanks for your repsonse, I mailed postmas...@freebsd.org that this thread exists, invited him to consider list definitions in light of past, present possible future response that may be psoted on this thread. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kernel: install: mps.ko.symbols: No such file or directory
Building kernel and modules with CLANG (did not try with gcc) results in corrupted system with following error message. Operating system is most recent svn update of FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64: URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f Revision: 222199 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: rmacklem Last Changed Rev: 222199 Last Changed Date: 2011-05-22 23:04:32 +0200 (So, 22 Mai 2011) The error is: === mps (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 555 mps.ko /boot/kernel install -o root -g wheel -m 555 mps.ko.symbols /boot/kernel install: mps.ko.symbols: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/mps. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/THOR. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:17:50 -0400, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none on how to create a FreeBSD desktop. Would someone will be willing to put one together? U think the majority of FreeBSD users who use the system on their desktop won't agree on the one desktop, as everyone I've encountered so far has different preferences and requirements. So a generalized statement is quite hard. There are systems with preconfigured desktops, such as PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE. I'm thinking about new users, rather than typical users. A typical FreeBSD user probably already knows how to configure a desktop that is ideal for them. A new user will take whatever they can get working, and keep working. I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an appliance. But that would be a good starting point for learning on how the inventors of VirtualBSD (to name an appliance) have done it, and build an own system from there on, keeping The FreeBSD Handbook at hand. See http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for details. I had previously visited their site, but they did not have instructions on how they created the appliance, or a forum to discuss it. The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it as an example for setting up their own systems. I'm sure the handbook's sections about the required parts can be very easily applied to virtual hardware, as they are generic enough to cover them. When I configured the sound driver on my machines, I had to go through a discovery process to find out what driver was required on each machine. Inside a VM, you would know what driver to load, and you could just tell the user to install the sound driver with this command. You wouldn't have to tell them how to figure out which driver to install. I suspect a lot of people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an underpowered VM would be a good proxy. Due to hardware limitations (incompatible parts) mostly found in modern laptops, I would assume that FreeBSD users prefer running the system on hardware that is known to work... I would expect that a typical new desktop user would be using an old computer purchased before they knew anything about FreeBSD. Or even more likely, a virtual machine hosted on a Windows box. Some parameters for the guide could be: - uses 8.2 installer - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update - tracks 8-stable branch for ports Depends on preferred usage paradigm. Yes and that paradigm would have to be properly defined. My definition would be that of a hobbyist desktop user who wants a functioning and maintainable desktop enviroment. In the Debian example I gave, their included software implies their target audience. I'm not interested in hosting 5000 jails, running a database cluster, or acting as the neighborhood ISP. - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!) There are laptops with resources equal to a fullblown desktop machine. :-) - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps That would be covered by how to install additional software, which means pkg_add, make install, or a port management tool. Maybe you refer to how to involve graphical port management abstractors? I would prefer to stick with command-line tools, but in a controlled environment that won't fail. Maybe that is not possible when tracking stable (ironically). For example, I've spent most of the last 72 hours trying to install firefox, flash (via linux_base-10), and virtualbox-ose-additons in to a stable environment, and only firefox is working. About once a year for the last 6 years I try to setup a FreeBSD desktop, and eventually get frustrated and go back to linux. - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ? Or WindowMaker? :-) - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ? Until it stops working. :-) - ideally demonstrates best practices Also depends on requirements, by users or by setting in which the system should be used (e. g. security policies, prohibition of standard means of communication and so on). - looks good, with nice fonts Looks good also depends VERY. - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that) Would they? :-) I know that average desktop users seem to get addicted to certain bling, but some lines above, you mentioned that laptops are slow, and the resources required for eye candy... are they included here? If Virtualbox supports hardware-accelerated graphics on 64-bit FreeBSD guests, then yes. - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+ Also the standard means apply here. Yes, but it would potentially be less error-prone with known hardware devices being emulated. Here
Re: kernel: install: mps.ko.symbols: No such file or directory
On May 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: Building kernel and modules with CLANG (did not try with gcc) results in corrupted system with following error message. Operating system is most recent svn update of FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64: URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f Revision: 222199 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: rmacklem Last Changed Rev: 222199 Last Changed Date: 2011-05-22 23:04:32 +0200 (So, 22 Mai 2011) After doing some review of the checkins made recently and per our offline discussion, it might be r222188 that's causing issues. How did you issue the build (did you run buildworld buildkernel, or just buildkernel, KERNFAST, etc)? Thanks, -Garrett___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
On Sunday 22 May 2011 12:44:50 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: paid) PSTN-to-SIP bridges, it can nearly completely replace Skype, at least for point-to-point audio/video. (No SILK though... there's nothing that comes close, sadly.) What about Blink: http://icanblink.com/ IMO Ekiga is not good replacemnet for Skype. I comunicate with many Windows users and Skype is the best choice if you like it or not. Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
Also, unless my friends all change from Skype or Skype becomes intolerable with SIP, I'm stuck with Skype. Also, we should wait and see what ms does with Skype before we condemn them. On May 22, 2011 7:20 PM, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 22 May 2011 12:44:50 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: paid) PSTN-to-SIP bridges, it can nearly... What about Blink: http://icanblink.com/ IMO Ekiga is not good replacemnet for Skype. I comunicate with many Windows users and Skype is the best choice if you like it or not. Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://li... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote: # portsnap fetch update # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # make install # portmaster --check-depends # portmaster www/firefox Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'. There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method, albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations. I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to circumvent these problems. I will read up on pkgNG, too. Thanks! I got flash working with Firefox 4, there was apparently a bad checksum in the ports tree. I had to add a make makesum command. My installation steps for Flash ended up being: # kldload linux # cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 # make install clean # echo 'linux_enable=YES' /etc/rc.conf # echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0' /etc/fstab # mount -a # cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper # make install clean # cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 # make makesum # make install clean Now I can integrate this into my install script. thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Le 22/05/2011 17:31, Mike Jeays a écrit : On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. Access right are OK ( 644 ) the completion does not work, the operating system says file not found when I try to open it with any program. when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
On Sun, 22 May 2011 19:36:46 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: Also, unless my friends all change from Skype or Skype becomes intolerable with SIP, I'm stuck with Skype. You use Skype -- SIP gateway? I use SIP even with my 'landline' phone, but still have the need to talk to Skype users (which becomes difficult after I switched from Linux to FreeBSD). Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Ekiga FreeBSD (for a future without Skype)
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:10:06AM +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2011 19:36:46 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: Also, unless my friends all change from Skype or Skype becomes intolerable with SIP, I'm stuck with Skype. You use Skype -- SIP gateway? I use SIP even with my 'landline' phone, but still have the need to talk to Skype users (which becomes difficult after I switched from Linux to FreeBSD). Sincerely, Gour Gour, the Skype port(s) were updated[*] not so long ago. Maybe worth giving it a try again. [*] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2011-May/012147.html Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html pgpQ8FYcbGDyY.pgp Description: PGP signature
