audio/multimedia
hey, i am trying to set up a machine for multimedia audio studio purposes am having trouble with drivers/devices have got all docs with freebsd package (8.1-release) two points: 1. where are the particular docs/books for audio/studio AND/OR device drive configuriing - could you provide ISBN's hhtp-ref's and such. otherwise 2. i can provide specific detail of what i want to do, what i am trying to do and what i do not understand plus technical detail - if you want ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death
Hi Chuck, I ran memtest86+ by loading it from the loader prompt. It completed Pass 1 with no errors in about 45 minutes. While I'll re-run memtest86+ for at least 2 passes tonight, I more suspect bad blocks in my ffs slice. So I am planning to install sysutils/smartmontools and run smartctl on /dev/ad8s2 (the ffs slice). Is there any port for monitoring system thermals, particularly CPU ? Regards Manish Jain On 09-Jul-11 22:24, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Manish Jain wrote: What do I make of it when the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and FreeBSD -8.0-amd64 ? That's interesting but inconclusive. Can you run prime95 testing overnight und er WinXP without issues? Or memtest86? BTW, 8.2 does NOT - for reasons unfathomable to me - install /usr/sbin/apmd. I don't know how significant that is, but I have had to insert into rc.conf : apm_enable=NO apmd_enable=NO ACPI replaced APM around 2000. (I'm assuming you don't have a 11-year-old quad -core Phenom system, since AMD didn't make such processors until 2007 or 2008.) Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: audio/multimedia
2011-07-10 11:29, wayne mitchell skrev: hey, i am trying to set up a machine for multimedia audio studio purposes am having trouble with drivers/devices What kind of trouble? have got all docs with freebsd package (8.1-release) two points: 1. where are the particular docs/books for audio/studio AND/OR device drive configuriing - could you provide ISBN's hhtp-ref's and such. otherwise 2. i can provide specific detail of what i want to do, what i am trying to do and what i do not understand plus technical detail - if you want Post what information you have. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fw: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my
question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a
filesystem-issue or c) both.
To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted before
another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of the ZFS-datasets
after that service is activated (because they require GELI), it seems to be
necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct
behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in
the standard setup?
Thank you, cheers,
--
Christopher J. Ruwe
TZ GMT + 2
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:59:48 +0200
From: Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de
To: freebsd...@freebsd.org
Subject: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at
boot [patch included]
I run my notebook under FreeBSD 8.2-stable, r223699. I have setup my
disks with ZFS so that I boot from a very small rpool and mount
datasets, among these /usr from another pool configured on top of an
AES encrypted GELI.
When installing a new world using this setup, it is necessary to
manually adapt /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal, mountcritlocal_start() to do a
zfs mount -a. Failing to do so causes my rootpool to be mounted (which
follows from rc.conf), then the GELI volume to be unlocked. After this,
the boot routine hangs, as /usr (which resides) on the encrypted vol,
which is not mounted, as the canonical zfs mounts are mounted before
GELI.
I cannot imagine that I am the only one to run ZFSes on an encrypted
GELI volume. Am I booting this setup in an inadvisable way, so that I
need to run into problems? If not, then it might be an idea to
include a zfs mount -a in mountcritlocal in the canonical rc.d-setup.
Am I getting this right or could you please comment?
Thank you, cheers,
--
Christopher J. Ruwe
TZ GMT + 2
*** /usr/src/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal 2011-06-30 21:37:46.097575355 +0200
--- /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal 2011-07-01 18:03:43.518493334 +0200
***
*** 36,41
--- 36,42
done
mount_excludes=${mount_excludes%,}
mount -a -t ${mount_excludes}
+ zfs mount -a
err=$?
check_startmsgs echo '.'
___
freebsd...@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs
To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-fs-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fw: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes: Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a filesystem-issue or c) both. To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in the standard setup? [...] Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Portupgrade Package Question
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 b. f. articulated: This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper tag to use for each branch; ie Stable Current, etc.Maybe there should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security otherwise to the original version ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what version it is. Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 Pan Tsu iny...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes: Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a filesystem-issue or c) both. To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in the standard setup? [...] Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. zfs_enable=YES is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my etcs are wrong? $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision `mountlate' /etc/rc.d/zfs $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has no providers. /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal However, I fear I have not made my intent clear. My boot-sequence should be as follows (intermittent steps left out): 1) mount zfs root-fs, which is on plain standard zpool A 2) unlock another, GELI-encrypted zpool B 3) mount all other fs (/usr,...), which reside on zpool B What my system does is first to mount the fs on zpool A, then GELI-unlock and then halt because the contents of /usr are not accessible (yet) What I want my system to do is to first mount root, then unlock GELI and then mount all other remaining fs on zpool B. I could either mount all remaining zfs'es in mountcritlocal, which requires another line there, which I have added locally as put in my patch. I cannot shift the order so that GELI-unlock comes first, because my keys for GELI reside on /boot, which resides on zpool A. So, is my setup anything from unfortunate to plain stupid or is mountcritlocal missing a statement catering for such cases as I described? Thank you for your help, cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:05:04PM +0200, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 Pan Tsu iny...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes: Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a filesystem-issue or c) both. To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in the standard setup? [...] Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. zfs_enable=YES is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my etcs are wrong? $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision `mountlate' /etc/rc.d/zfs $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has no providers. /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal You're using rcorder wrong here. rcorder /etc/rc.d/* will get you what you're looking for. Yes, literally an asterisk. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:50:44 -0700
Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:05:04PM +0200, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400
Pan Tsu iny...@gmail.com wrote:
Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes:
Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but
probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not
really a filesystem-issue or c) both.
To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be
mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case)
and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated
(because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a
`zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct
behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to
mountcritlocal in the standard setup?
[...]
Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on
rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after
rc.d/mountcritlocal.
zfs_enable=YES is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my
etcs are wrong?
$ rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs
rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision
`mountlate' /etc/rc.d/zfs
$ rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal
rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has
no providers. /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal
You're using rcorder wrong here. rcorder /etc/rc.d/* will get you
what you're looking for. Yes, literally an asterisk.
I see. Thank you. That gives me (I skip the rest after mountcritlocal)
/etc/rc.d/zvol
/etc/rc.d/zfs
/etc/rc.d/dumpon
/etc/rc.d/ddb
/etc/rc.d/initrandom
/etc/rc.d/geli
/etc/rc.d/gbde
/etc/rc.d/encswap
/etc/rc.d/ccd
/etc/rc.d/swap1
/etc/rc.d/fsck
/etc/rc.d/root
/etc/rc.d/hostid_save
/etc/rc.d/mdconfig
/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal
This makes sense to me and reflects the order I assumed in my description. The
question remains, however, if my configuration is of any in {unusual, ...,
stupid} as I require first zfs mount of /, then GELI-unlock and then zfs mount
of {/usr,/usr/local, ...}.
Anyhow, thanks for setting me up on the proper usage of rcorder.
Cheers,
--
Christopher J. Ruwe
TZ GMT + 2
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
Re: Portupgrade Package Question
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 b. f. articulated: This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper tag to use for each branch; ie Stable Current, etc.Maybe there should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security otherwise to the original version ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what version it is. Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. I have 34 years experience as a Data Systems technician, system admin, developer, and tech writer, yet I till won't claim I know everything, so please don't flame me. Constructive, polite criticism is welcome. I began my career before Unix or MicroSucks even existed. It is a misnomer to attach a release number to current or stable. CURRENT is called HEAD in source code control vernacular. CURRENT's number is transient. It is often incorrectly referred to as 9. Please refrain from such usage. It is technically incorrect and confuses users who have no knowledge of source code control. Same goes for STABLE. In my opinion, the real confusion is in ascertaining what you SHOULD be using. If you want to run FreeBSD, KDE, gnome, etc., as a PRODUCTION machine, yo should NOT be using CURRENT or STABLE. You should be installing a RELEASE on a TEST machine, verify that ALL your user applications have no showstopper anomales, and DEPLOY the release AFTER testing has given you a great dela of confidence in the software. You should JUMP from a release to the next release, using the testing and deployment mentioned. You WILL get security updates if you track a release, such as 8.2. But again, don't just update your sources and deploy. TEST it on a test machine, before exposing your end users to it. This is referred to as PROFESSIONALISM. The ONLY people that should be tracking STABLE or CURRENT are the people who DON'T need their hand held for system administration. If you violate this protocol, you will be taking developers time away from development to TRAIN you in system admin. PLEASE don't. Hope this helps and if it offends you, please take the time to think about it before you flame me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I've had some trouble netbooting / jumpstaring recently with a similar pattern (using RARP/BOOTP/TFTP/NFS). It turned out to be a dying port on the switch whose errors were masked by TCP in day to day use, but alas were too frequent for UDP. I just have a direct ethernet connection between my FreeBSD laptop with bootpd/tftpd servers (one ethernet port only) and a node which I want to boot (also a single ethernet port). Is there way for me to check whether either of these ports are dying? Any further diagnostics I can do? Just push a lot of data (/dev/zero, /dev/urandom, ...) over this connection, via ssh or something like that, and monitor the error rates in netstat -in on both ends. Look at Ierrs, Idrop and Oerrs columns. If one of those ports are dying, or if your cable isn't properly shielded, you'll notice immediately. Many thanks Anton -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem updating ports (latex-cjk)
Can confirm that this problem still exists. same log as described. latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 # be compatible with Debian find: /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk/work/ccmap: No such file or directory rgrds Rafal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
Christopher J. Ruwe c...@cruwe.de writes:
[...]
/etc/rc.d/zvol
/etc/rc.d/zfs
/etc/rc.d/dumpon
/etc/rc.d/ddb
/etc/rc.d/initrandom
/etc/rc.d/geli
/etc/rc.d/gbde
/etc/rc.d/encswap
/etc/rc.d/ccd
/etc/rc.d/swap1
/etc/rc.d/fsck
/etc/rc.d/root
/etc/rc.d/hostid_save
/etc/rc.d/mdconfig
/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal
This makes sense to me and reflects the order I assumed in my
description. The question remains, however, if my configuration is of
any in {unusual, ..., stupid} as I require first zfs mount of /, then
GELI-unlock and then zfs mount of {/usr,/usr/local, ...}.
Do you mount the root pool over smth else? Otherwise, root should be
mounted by kernel before init(8) is started. And /etc/rc.d doesn't exist
before root is mounted.
I think the correct order is
0 vfs_mountroot*
..
2 rc.d/zvol (pre v28)
..
6 rc.d/geli
..
15 rc.d/mountcritlocal
16 rc.d/zfs
where extra datasets from the root pool can be mounted via fstab at
rc.d/mountcritlocal time. Not sure if you import geli pool during boot
or not and leak its configuration via zpool.cache.
Anyhow, thanks for setting me up on the proper usage of rcorder.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
KDE on FreeBSD
The Newsflash page has a link to freebsd.kde.org, which has a broken link, http://freebsd.kde.org/contact.php I'm wondering if kaffeine has been abandoned, since there is a message in the kaffeine port Changes: 8 weeks arved Attempt to fix build Reported by: pointyhat Drop Maintainership I LOVE kaffeine, but it appears to have many user interface bugs, yet many advanced features. Is it simply that KDE4 development is delaying development of kaffeine, or did the kaffeine guy give up? I've submitted several bugs to KDE and I see them on kaffeine.sourceforge.net, but with someoe else's name (which I elieve means the kaffeine guy is still active, just overwhelmed). There are bugs there that go back to 2005 as unconfirmed. All the bugs marked as FreeBSD came from me. I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB. In the US, virtualy no one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experience. I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs. I would rather leave the profession than support that garbage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Portupgrade Package Question
On 10/07/2011 14:02, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 b. f. articulated: This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper tag to use for each branch; ie Stable Current, etc.Maybe there should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: I was one of them until I discovered that googling FreeBSD tags leads straight to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvs-tags.html Eg RELENG_8 The line of development for FreeBSD-8.X, also known as FreeBSD 8-STABLE RELENG_8_2 The release branch for FreeBSD-8.2, used only for security advisories and other critical fixes. ... RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2 Release Chris 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security otherwise to the original version ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what version it is. Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE on FreeBSD
I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB. In the US, virtualy no one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experience. ___ Virtually, right? Maybe they do run FreeBSD on a virtual machine? There are no stats to back this up either way so we will be at a loss here :( I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs. I would rather leave the profession than support that garbage. If you can have a computer shop/area for fixing computers fixing those MS machines would be the way to make money. I have a friend who is a computer technician and he is very happy with the garbage that you mention. He says that because there are many careless users and the garbage allows other garbage(virii, spyware, malware, etc) to come in; he has a job and a way to provide for his family. He can take his kids to mcdonalds and get them a happy meal take out his family to watch a movie. I tell him the same thing like you mention, but he says that fixing those machines that are out there is something that he has to do to at least make ends meet and no, it is not support from MS, it is a job to clean/wipe those machines to make them workable again :) support from M$ would be more money and I remember folks that get burned at the stake for getting a job from those guys :( Regards, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included]
On 07/10/2011 07:05, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs You want to use: service -r -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
