Re: Dual Booting Linux with FreeBSD 9.0 - Grub in MBR
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:32:10 +
Kaya Saman kayasa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
am just wondering if anyone has successfully managed to boot FreeBSD
9.0 and Linux.
I run Fedora 16 x64 with Grub installed in my MBR.
FBSD9 installed as the new disk scheme GPT. I think (I manually
partitioned as my disk is quite crowded).
Anyway I found this:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-October/234858.html
and at the moment I have this in my Grub config:
menuentry 'FreeBSD 9.0' {
set root=(ada0,1,a)
kfreebsd /boot/loader
boot
}
But unfortunately no boot :-(
I have tried using (hd0,0), (hd0,1,a), (hd0,0,a), and (hd0,a) but
unfortunately nothing is working.
The Grub version is 2.
Can anyone help me?
Hi
I have the following partition layout
P1 linux swap
P2 FreeBSD
P3 linux
P4 extended which holds 2 more linux partitions
FreeBSD 9 installed on P2 and the FreeBSD bootloader on P2
In /etc/grub.d/40_custom I have put the following:
menuentry FreeBSD {
set root=(hd0,2)
chainloader +1
}
Then run update-grub as root.
The (hd0,2) entry means first harddisk (this laptop only has one) and
the second partition, which holds the FreeBSD bootloader that gets
loaded with the enry chainloader +1.
This works for me. Hope it helps.
I think with the way you have the setup now, a module must be loaded
first in the grub config. Insmod ufs or similair.
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Re: USB 3.0 with FreeBSD 8.1
Am 28.01.2012 05:28, schrieb Henry Olyer: b) Does 9.0 have USB 3.0 support. my system says: Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: xhci0: XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller mem 0xf9cfe000-0xf9cf irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: xhci0: 64 byte context size. Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: usbus3 on xhci0 So it detects at least my usb3 controller. Bye Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. -- Rich Cook ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X libraries missing
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:15:27 +0100 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-28 08:06, Adam Vande More skrev: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se wrote: Hello list! Trying to update multimedia/audacious-plugins to some other version 3x. The problem seems to be ! multimedia/audacious-plugins (audacious-plugins-2.5.4_2) (X libraries missing) The error is: Entering directory aosd. In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory Successfully generated dependencies. Successfully compiled aosd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_osd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_style.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_trigger.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_ui.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_cfg.c (plugin). In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:86: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '** XCompositeCreateRegionFromBord**erClip' Failed to compile ghosd.c (plugin)! gmake[5]: *** [ghosd.plugin.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20120128-**26744-6ymwm0-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=audacious-**plugins-2.5.4_2 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.5.4_2 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. But I have xorg libraries installed, xorg-libraries-7.5.1 /usr/ports/x11/libXcomposite Did not work! You also need x11/libXfixes. Save yourself some headaches and just do portmaster libX. That'll make sure all of them are up-to-date. Did you recently upgrade your xorg-server? If so, updating libX* and xf86* is a *must*. HTH Conrad == Building for libXcomposite-0.4.3,1 make all-recursive Making all in src CC Xcomposite.lo In file included from xcompositeint.h:53, from Xcomposite.c:45: ../include/X11/extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory In file included from xcompositeint.h:53, from Xcomposite.c:45: ../include/X11/extensions/Xcomposite.h:86: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'XCompositeCreateRegionFromBorderClip' Xcomposite.c:319: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'XCompositeCreateRegionFromBorderClip' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/x11/libXcomposite/work/libXcomposite-0.4.3/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/x11/libXcomposite/work/libXcomposite-0.4.3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/x11/libXcomposite/work/libXcomposite-0.4.3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/x11/libXcomposite ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UPDATING 20120116 -- x11/xcb-util -- instructions not working
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:06:57 -0500 Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:53:39 -0600 Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: For the life of me I can't work around this xcb-util issue. This is a pretty fresh install and I have not made any workaround symlinks. I ran: # portmaster -R -r xcb-util-0 And the problem persists. It didn't even complete all the packages because some were still erroring on missing xcb libraries. Example, editors/mousepad: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-aux.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-aux.la' gmake[2]: *** [mousepad] Error 1 I'm getting this same error in several ports. Just exactly which package is supposed to be providing libxcb-aux.la? And why isn't it? I'm not exactly certain about this, and so am probably wrong. I thought the '*.la' files were 'linker archives' created by libtool. Yes, that's right. But I never really got completely through the process of fully understanding exactly how all the autotools, make and gmake, and libtool operate. I did some research on this issue yesterday, and found the answer. I posted a complete explanation with step-by-step instructions to the FreeBSD Forums at: http://forums.FreeBSD.org/showthread.php?p=163415#post163415 Sorry, I should have followed up here sooner as well. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[ANN] FreeBSD Druid 9.0b56
Behold! FreeBSD Druid! http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/ Install FreeBSD 9.0 with sysinstall (!!) -- Devin NOTE: This is beta 56 of the Druid platform in-general (and thus the version 9.0b56) but it does NOT install a beta version of FreeBSD. Rather, it installs FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (32 or 64-bit, your choice). P.S. A note to ADVANCED users... if you're going to skip the scripted installation for any reason -- dropping to traditional sysinstall procedure -- then to utilize the on-disc RELEASE, select as your medium Directory and enter either (1) /cdrom/freebsd/repos/9.0-RELEASE or (2) /cdrom/freebsd/repos/9.0-RELEASE-amd64. This is not intuitive and one may be tempted to select CD-ROM as the media type, but this is incorrect. P.P.S. There is much more written at the newly-updated website. You'll want to hit these URLs for this software... http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/ http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download.shtml http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/freebsd_druid.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/ _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dual Booting Linux with FreeBSD 9.0 - Grub in MBR
On 01/28/2012 08:54 AM, Bas Smeelen wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:32:10 +
Kaya Samankayasa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
am just wondering if anyone has successfully managed to boot FreeBSD
9.0 and Linux.
I run Fedora 16 x64 with Grub installed in my MBR.
FBSD9 installed as the new disk scheme GPT. I think (I manually
partitioned as my disk is quite crowded).
Anyway I found this:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-October/234858.html
and at the moment I have this in my Grub config:
menuentry 'FreeBSD 9.0' {
set root=(ada0,1,a)
kfreebsd /boot/loader
boot
}
But unfortunately no boot :-(
I have tried using (hd0,0), (hd0,1,a), (hd0,0,a), and (hd0,a) but
unfortunately nothing is working.
The Grub version is 2.
Can anyone help me?
Hi
I have the following partition layout
P1 linux swap
P2 FreeBSD
P3 linux
P4 extended which holds 2 more linux partitions
FreeBSD 9 installed on P2 and the FreeBSD bootloader on P2
In /etc/grub.d/40_custom I have put the following:
menuentry FreeBSD {
set root=(hd0,2)
chainloader +1
}
Then run update-grub as root.
The (hd0,2) entry means first harddisk (this laptop only has one) and
the second partition, which holds the FreeBSD bootloader that gets
loaded with the enry chainloader +1.
This works for me. Hope it helps.
I think with the way you have the setup now, a module must be loaded
first in the grub config. Insmod ufs or similair.
Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email
Thanks for the response!!
Actually I got this working but eventually was up for nearly 24 hours
which meant I was too tired to post back here :-)
My Grub is just weird! Which is why I couldn't work things out. For
anyone running Fedora 16 or alike this may help; I have this partition
layout:
1. FreeBSD UFS2
4. Extended Partition
5. Linux / Ext4
2 Linux Swap
3 Linux JFS
Don't ask why 4,5 partitions but Fedora installer took over and left me
with no control otherwise Fedora should have been on 2.
Now the Grub entry is as follows:
menuentry 'FreeBSD 9.0' {
insmod part_msdos
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
chainloader +1
}
I have no idea why my version of grub is sooo different from everyone
elses as finding many dualboot bsd/linux combos with Grub entries being
more like yours, Bas, this is certainly puzzling.
Anyhow the situation is solved :-)
Regards,
Kaya
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[dvd+rw-tools-7.1] Failure to burn disks: SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE
While burning the DVD+R DL with the command 'growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=$1' on 9.0-STABLE I am getting this error: 8333492224/8407351452 (99.1%) @4.0x, remaining 0:14 RBU 100.0% UBU 57.1% 8352301056/8407351452 (99.3%) @4.1x, remaining 0:10 RBU 100.0% UBU 53.1% 8371240960/8407351452 (99.6%) @4.1x, remaining 0:06 RBU 100.0% UBU 55.1% 8387395584/8407351452 (99.8%) @3.5x, remaining 0:03 RBU 59.6% UBU 53.1% 8406237184/8407351452 (100.0%) @4.1x, remaining 0:00 RBU 3.4% UBU 61.2% :-[ WRITE@LBA=3ea3c0h failed with SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE]: Invalid argument :-( write failed: Invalid argument It failed 3 times. Size of the iso image is 8407351452. Device is: cd0: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D 1.21 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device I did burn DVDs successfully using the same drive, the same batch of empty writable DVDs and the same command on 8.X. I am not sure if this is because of 9.0 or because of this specific disk image. Do you know what may be a problem? Do you burn DVDs successfully? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: USB 3.0 with FreeBSD 8.1
from: Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net: b) Does 9.0 have USB 3.0 support. my system says: Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: xhci0: XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller mem 0xf9cfe000-0xf9cf irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: xhci0: 64 byte context size. Jan 27 22:16:51 server kernel: usbus3 on xhci0 So it detects at least my usb3 controller. Bye Matthias I have USB 3.0 on my new computer, and a Western Digital My Book Essential USB 3.0 3 TB hard drive: Good read/write with FreeBSD 9.0, and Linux on the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/). I can't access this hard drive from NetBSD either from USB 3.0 port or USB 2.0 port. I think FreeBSD 8.1 is in any case superseded by 8.2, hence no motivation to improve hardware support in 8.1. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer
from Kévin Hagner jsaipakoim...@spyzone.fr: I'm running on a FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE, the file system used is UFS, I've 2Gb RAM and no native swap partition. Oh. You should never configure a Unix system without at least some swap space available, and configuring at least as much swap as you have RAM (plus a little +bit more) is the minimum recommendation. Regards, -Chuck Does that mean the amount of swap space needed increases with amount of RAM? Is that for the purpose of accommodating possible core dump? This is difficult to achieve with a system that has generous RAM, when installing to a USB stick. I suppose one could use swap space on a hard drive in that case. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: perl mail problems
I know this is not exactly FreeBSD related, but I'm in need of a monk that can enlighten me on a sacred incantation to connect perl to an imap server using Mail::Box modules :) If it helps people sleep, its all running only on FreeBSD systems... I have googled and searched, and googled some more, and tested, and then went back to the drawing board and googled yet again... there is simply no clear answer out there. All the docs are very disjointed from my reckoning- with no clear direction that explains how you get from a-b. I have enabled a connection (I think - based on my tests and logs), but I cannot get further than that. I have a Mail::Box::Manager instantiated, and then I have to use Mail::Box::IMAP4 to open a connection to the server. From there I need to get a list of the folders available- and thats where I get stymied. All the docs are pop3 based, or maildir based, or mbox. The imap is very sketchy... and what is out there says to basically connect, and then there is a jump to folders and messages with no idea of what is involved in between. Although I did see one complete example with pop3, but it won't work for imap. One of the biggest problems is the username confuses any other module method than the Mail::Box::IMAP4 - the syntax is user@domain, and so if I use Mail::Box::Manager it will compile it into a url form ie imap4://user@domain:password@mail.server which it obviously barfs on and refuses to look beyond user@domain. I really seem to be missing something fundamental here. I'm only trying to create some tools which will handle some situations apparently only local to my systems, and improve my perl foo before I start creating modules of my own and testing mod_perl. If someone can help clear this up I'll be happy to communicate off list if that is necessary. TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X libraries missing
2012-01-28 10:31, Conrad J. Sabatier skrev: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:15:27 +0100 Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-28 08:06, Adam Vande More skrev: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se wrote: Hello list! Trying to update multimedia/audacious-plugins to some other version 3x. The problem seems to be ! multimedia/audacious-plugins (audacious-plugins-2.5.4_2) (X libraries missing) The error is: Entering directory aosd. In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory Successfully generated dependencies. Successfully compiled aosd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_osd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_style.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_trigger.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_ui.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_cfg.c (plugin). In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:86: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '** XCompositeCreateRegionFromBord**erClip' Failed to compile ghosd.c (plugin)! gmake[5]: *** [ghosd.plugin.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20120128-**26744-6ymwm0-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=audacious-**plugins-2.5.4_2 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.5.4_2 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. But I have xorg libraries installed, xorg-libraries-7.5.1 /usr/ports/x11/libXcomposite Did not work! You also need x11/libXfixes. Save yourself some headaches and just do portmaster libX. That'll make sure all of them are up-to-date. Did you recently upgrade your xorg-server? If so, updating libX* and xf86* is a *must*. Thank's for the reply. I got frustrated and did a pkg_delete \* Now I can't build any port, tried python cc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -I. -IInclude -I./../Include -fPIC -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Modules/python.o ./../Modules/python.c cc -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -o python Modules/python.o -L. -lpython2.7 -lutil -lm cc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -I. -IInclude -I./../Include -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Modules/python.o ./../Modules/python.c install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./../Tools/gdb/libpython.py python-gdb.py [: not foundthis error pops up with any port ã²çW?: not foundsame with this one install: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting )) install: 5: Syntax error: Error in command substitution *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python27. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python27. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python. I get the same error after a portsnap 20120128 15:30 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: email hosting - How do you do it?
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:51:05 -0700 Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: Hello, I've been on qmail/vpopmail combo forever and am looking to build a new, mail server. As some one who has was once a unix admin for a ISP that ran Qmail for a SMTP server, I can safely say you should avoid it like the plague. Managing it is a bloody PITA given how incomplete it is in so many ways. First choice so far is postfix, but almost all the virtual hosting 'howtos' require an SQL database, or editing files by hand. The SQL part seems like an overkill for ~20-50 email accounts, the editing files by hand seems like a pain and requires me doing everything but I'd rather let people manage their own domains. Postfix is a great choice. A lot more manageable than Qmail and it is pleasantly fast, easy to configure, and integrates nicely with Dovecot. If you are just dealing with a single domain, I would strongly suggest looking into just using system users. This works fairly nicely and you can lock down access via PAM. In regards to authentication, you will need to look into something other than the master.passwd stuff authentication as that is only usable as root. I would strongly suggest LDAP. In regards to managing users/groups in LDAP I would suggest sysutils/p5-Plugtools . It is something I wrong awhile back and maintain, so if you have any requests for add on to, please just let me know. Just curious on how everyone else does small/medium/large email hosting so that the users have an easy option to change passwords, manage their domains, quotas, vacation auto responders, etc. ? My setup involves... backend - The backend server runs LDAP and has a nice bit of disk space shared via NFs. frontend - The frontend servver runs all the external facing stuff, webmail(horde), more web stuff, Dovecot(POP3/IMAP/Sieve), and Postfix(SMTP). NFS - Used for sharing home directories. LDAP - Used for authentication, addressbooks, and user/groups. Dovecot - Use for POP3/IMAP/Sieve. Postfix - Used for SMTP. syslogd - Used for centralized logging for logging from the frontend to the backend. Horde - It makes a truely kick ass webmail system. It is nice as allows easy integration of Sieve and LDAP addressooks. ZFS/gmirror - Gmirror backed ZFS pools work really nicely for if you need large amounts of storage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X libraries missing
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:36:35 +0100 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-28 10:31, Conrad J. Sabatier skrev: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:15:27 +0100 Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-28 08:06, Adam Vande More skrev: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Bernt Hanssonb...@bananmonarki.se wrote: Hello list! Trying to update multimedia/audacious-plugins to some other version 3x. The problem seems to be ! multimedia/audacious-plugins (audacious-plugins-2.5.4_2) (X libraries missing) The error is: Entering directory aosd. In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory Successfully generated dependencies. Successfully compiled aosd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_osd.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_style.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_trigger.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_ui.c (plugin). Successfully compiled aosd_cfg.c (plugin). In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:49:35: error: X11/extensions/Xfixes.h: No such file or directory In file included from ghosd.c:21: /usr/local/include/X11/**extensions/Xcomposite.h:86: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '** XCompositeCreateRegionFromBord**erClip' Failed to compile ghosd.c (plugin)! gmake[5]: *** [ghosd.plugin.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[3]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/**multimedia/audacious-plugins. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20120128-**26744-6ymwm0-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=audacious-**plugins-2.5.4_2 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.5.4_2 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. But I have xorg libraries installed, xorg-libraries-7.5.1 /usr/ports/x11/libXcomposite Did not work! You also need x11/libXfixes. Save yourself some headaches and just do portmaster libX. That'll make sure all of them are up-to-date. Did you recently upgrade your xorg-server? If so, updating libX* and xf86* is a *must*. Thank's for the reply. I got frustrated and did a pkg_delete \* That's just a wee tad on the drastic side, isn't it? You must have been quite beside yourself at the time. :-) Now I can't build any port, tried python cc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -I. -IInclude -I./../Include -fPIC -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Modules/python.o ./../Modules/python.c cc -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -o python Modules/python.o -L. -lpython2.7 -lutil -lm cc -c -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -I. -IInclude -I./../Include -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Modules/python.o ./../Modules/python.c install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./../Tools/gdb/libpython.py python-gdb.py [: not foundthis error pops up with any port ã²çW?: not foundsame with this one install: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting )) install: 5: Syntax error: Error in command substitution *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python27. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python27. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/bernt/disk8/ports/lang/python. I get the same error after a portsnap 20120128 15:30 CET Looks like either you've somehow managed to bork up your /bin directory, or you're lacking /bin in your PATH. Just what exactly have you been up to lately, young man? :-) No, seriously, '[' *should* be found under /bin. It's actually a hard link to 'test' in the same directory. If it's missing, you can recreate it (provided that 'test' still exists). (As root, of course): cd /bin ln test [ Hopefully, that should get you back on track. HTH, Conrad -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 02:57:02AM -0500, Henry Olyer wrote: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails. I go to through various work-arounds, different things. But Saturday I will be installing 9.0 and would like to have a successful install. Ideas? Install gnuplot before maxima, so you can see why it goes wrong. Use an empty make.conf in case you run into weird compilation problems. The default build of gnuplot is quite heavy, pulling in wxwidgets and teTeX. Personally, I would recommend the following settings: enable X11, GD, gridbox, thinsplines and cairo, and disable the rest; pdflib didn't work last time I tried it. WXwidgets is overkill IMO, the standard X11 support works fine. And teTeX is deprecated upstream in favor of TeXLive. I've been using gnuplot like this without problems for years, on i386 and amd64. Hope this helps. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpuP5jFQpHDy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X libraries missing
2012-01-28 16:13, Conrad J. Sabatier skrev: Thank's for the reply. I got frustrated and did a pkg_delete \* That's just a wee tad on the drastic side, isn't it? Well, frustration craves drastic measures. You must have been quite beside yourself at the time. :-) It was friday! Looks like either you've somehow managed to bork up your /bin directory, or you're lacking /bin in your PATH. Just what exactly have you been up to lately, young man? :-) Well, to much it seems. No, seriously, '[' *should* be found under /bin. It's actually a hard link to 'test' in the same directory. If it's missing, you can recreate it (provided that 'test' still exists). (As root, of course): cd /bin ln test [ Hopefully, that should get you back on track. I'm back on track. Did some pkg_add -r program Now it seems to work again, at least portupgrade -aiR Thank you Conrad for your help. Have a nice weekend. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: perl mail problems
On 28/01/2012 13:39, Da Rock wrote: I know this is not exactly FreeBSD related, but I'm in need of a monk that can enlighten me on a sacred incantation to connect perl to an imap server using Mail::Box modules :) If it helps people sleep, its all running only on FreeBSD systems... I have googled and searched, and googled some more, and tested, and then went back to the drawing board and googled yet again... there is simply no clear answer out there. All the docs are very disjointed from my reckoning- with no clear direction that explains how you get from a-b. I have enabled a connection (I think - based on my tests and logs), but I cannot get further than that. I have a Mail::Box::Manager instantiated, and then I have to use Mail::Box::IMAP4 to open a connection to the server. From there I need to get a list of the folders available- and thats where I get stymied. All the docs are pop3 based, or maildir based, or mbox. The imap is very sketchy... and what is out there says to basically connect, and then there is a jump to folders and messages with no idea of what is involved in between. Although I did see one complete example with pop3, but it won't work for imap. This is absolutely typical -- IMAP is frequently treated as POP-with-extra-bits, which really makes no sense whatsoever. There's a fundamental difference in behaviour to do with where the mail is actually stored. Anything that works by connecting to an IMAP server and downloading all the new messages to hold and read locally really is missing the point. One of the biggest problems is the username confuses any other module method than the Mail::Box::IMAP4 - the syntax is user@domain, and so if I use Mail::Box::Manager it will compile it into a url form ie imap4://user@domain:password@mail.server which it obviously barfs on and refuses to look beyond user@domain. Yeah, IMAP4 doesn't do URL-style things itself, so this is a fiction invented to appease the higher layers of Mail::Box. Unfortunately, '@' is of syntactic significance to URL schemes, making it difficult to incorporate usernames containing it. Hmmm can you substitute a hex encoded character string in that username? %40 should be the encoding for an @ character. I really seem to be missing something fundamental here. I'm only trying to create some tools which will handle some situations apparently only local to my systems, and improve my perl foo before I start creating modules of my own and testing mod_perl. If someone can help clear this up I'll be happy to communicate off list if that is necessary. Is all the e-mail you have to deal with stored on your IMAP4 server? If so, then using Mail::IMAPClient directly[*] might serve you better rather than through the Mail::Box and Mail::Transport classes. However, that's a much lower level interface and you'll need to be fairly au-fait with RFC 3501. (That's not as bad as it sounds: all it boils down to is finding what the command is called in the IMAP protocol when you want to achieve a particular effect.) One thing that I notice on a cursory reading of Mail::Box::IMAP4 is that it seems to assume things about the behaviour of the IMAP message store which aren't necessarily true for all different IMAP servers. (ICBW -- it was a /very/ cursory reading.) Usernames of the form 'n...@example.com' are one of those things you can do with IMAP which tend to come as a bit of a surprise to people used to other mailclient protocols. Cheers, Matthew [*] Mail::Box et al use Mail::IMAPClient behind the scenes. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.
I just compiled maxima from ports using default settings under FreeBSD 8-STABLE (updated 12/24/2011) and had no problems with the compile (i.e., I just su'd to root, did a cd /usr/ports/math/maxima;make). This was under the amd64 version of FreeBSD (hardware is a Tyan S4882 quad Opteron). I just upgraded from 7.4 to 8.2-RELEASE and then, as usually, updated to the STABLE version using cvs. I usually don't upgrade to a newer version until it becomes obviously necessary due to either features I need in the newer release or the ending of support for the version I'm currently using. I wonder what versions you've been trying to install, since I've rarely had problems installing from ports when upgrading as described above. Mike Squires mikes at siralan.org UN*X at home since 1986 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ...
Roland Smith wrote: The default build of gnuplot is quite heavy, pulling in wxwidgets and teTeX. Personally, I would recommend the following settings: enable X11, GD, gridb ox, thinsplines and cairo, and disable the rest; pdflib didn't work last time I tried it. WXwidgets is overkill IMO, the standard X11 support works fine. And teTeX is deprecated upstream in favor of TeXLive. Gnuplot is the prototypical example of a port which is badly managed. There are far too many dependencies which are absolutely *non necessary* There is absolutely no necessity of having TeX (in any form whatsoever) to run Gnuplot. In fact Gnuplot can emit TeX instructions if asked to do it, but many people never use this feature, and those who care may very well include the graphs on another machine, run TeX elsewhere, etc. The only necessary features are to emit X11 plots and ps plots. The ps plots can be transformed to pdf by ps2pdf, which is a basic program on almost all machines. The more modern inclined may like svg plots if they have inkscape. But the cherry on the cake is that gnu plot requires pdflib, which is a non free library such that the FreeBSD project cannot ship a working gnuplot binary (that is gnuplot will not start without libpdf for which one needs to download source and compile). Hence one of the most useful tools on a computer doesn't work out of the box. Things such as that should never occur, a port maintainer should only include the *strict minimum* dependencies necessary to make the port work, it is not his job to include the whole kitchen sink of dependencies that could be useful in some cases. Of course there are correlated casualties to such misbehavior such as the above problem afflicting maxima. Once again, while doing plots is a useful feature of maxima, requiring gnuplot, it is not a central feature of maxima, the plots can be done with other tools than gnuplot. Similarly maxima has a TeX dependency which has absolutely no reason to be here. Of course maxima can output formulas in TeX notation, but there is no necessity to do that, and i am quite sure that many people only use the html rendering produced by wxmaxima. In the past people have chased deprecated ports in the FreeBSD ports system, and this has caused a lot of controversy (personaly i approve this operation). But chasing inappropriate dependencies would be far more useful if one wants to arrive at a situation where one can envision to use binary packages for most installations of FreeBSD (those which don't require fine tuning). At present, the gnuplot example shows that even most basic installations cannot be provided out of the box without compiling something - which implies in particular that no apt-get like tool can be devised. -- Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.
I've been using FBSD since 2000 and a Macsyma user since 1976. And done my own FBSD installs since 5.1, I think, maybe a few before. For those early years I was content to install a lisp and then do my own FTP's, getting maxima and doing things manually. No problems. But the installs have never worked. Specificially, using the sysinstall tool, going to Packages, going to Math, and dropping down to Maxima, FAILS!!! And a few years ago everyone yelled at me and said I was wrong. But I've had this problem on at least a dozen machines, from laptop's to desktops, to blades. And when Gnuplot failed to install that stopped the installation of maxima. So I did workarounds but lost graphing and other resources. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael L. Squires mi...@siralan.orgwrote: I just compiled maxima from ports using default settings under FreeBSD 8-STABLE (updated 12/24/2011) and had no problems with the compile (i.e., I just su'd to root, did a cd /usr/ports/math/maxima;make). This was under the amd64 version of FreeBSD (hardware is a Tyan S4882 quad Opteron). I just upgraded from 7.4 to 8.2-RELEASE and then, as usually, updated to the STABLE version using cvs. I usually don't upgrade to a newer version until it becomes obviously necessary due to either features I need in the newer release or the ending of support for the version I'm currently using. I wonder what versions you've been trying to install, since I've rarely had problems installing from ports when upgrading as described above. Mike Squires mikes at siralan.org UN*X at home since 1986 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: perl mail problems
On 28/01/2012 13:39, Da Rock wrote: I know this is not exactly FreeBSD related, but I'm in need of a monk that can enlighten me on a sacred incantation to connect perl to an imap server using Mail::Box modules :) If it helps people sleep, its all running only on FreeBSD systems... I have googled and searched, and googled some more, and tested, and then went back to the drawing board and googled yet again... there is simply no clear answer out there. All the docs are very disjointed from my reckoning- with no clear direction that explains how you get from a-b. I have enabled a connection (I think - based on my tests and logs), but I cannot get further than that. I have a Mail::Box::Manager instantiated, and then I have to use Mail::Box::IMAP4 to open a connection to the server. From there I need to get a list of the folders available- and thats where I get stymied. All the docs are pop3 based, or maildir based, or mbox. The imap is very sketchy... and what is out there says to basically connect, and then there is a jump to folders and messages with no idea of what is involved in between. Although I did see one complete example with pop3, but it won't work for imap. there's good php support for IMAP, documentation might be better http://uk.php.net/manual/en/function.imap-list.php (easily scripted via cli). Paul.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.0 install problems
When I boot the CD I get a different menu, ie., boot, shell, install. Since the CD is in the CD-ROM drawer and I know how to use sysinstall (or so I thought!,) I get a fresh shell and say sysinstall. Okay? Except I can't write the disk. Notice, I have not explicitly mounted it or done anything to reserve it. I need a procedure to do this please. It's just a small machine. But having this up let's me do a backup and once I've backed up the disks on my other computers, then I can do some serious stuff with 9.0. I'd like to use sysinstall, if possible. I know it and I like it. I do have some other FBSD boxes nearby, each with TCP/IP running fine; But I'm not knowledgeable with PXE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.
I've only installed a few programs from packages at installation time; almost all of my installations and upgrades have been by compiling from ports and then upgrading (with recompilation) using portupgrade. This is a habit I got into a long time ago, and which I continue without any specific reason, other than it's always worked for me. One workaround would be to install gnuplot from ports (compiling it) and then installing maxima from packages. My wild guess is that there's something either different between the package version of gnuplot and the version created by a compile from ports or that there is something different between the system on which the packages version of gnuplot was created and your system. I've run into a few programs where dependencies weren't handled correctly; in those cases I've had to manually install (by compiling) the dependency and then continuing with the installation of the program itself. Sorry you've been having problems (and gotten less than sympathetic responses). Mike Squires mikes at siralan.org UN*X at home since 1986 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
+ Re: 9.0 install problems
On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: When I boot the CD I get a different menu, ie., boot, shell, install. Since the CD is in the CD-ROM drawer and I know how to use sysinstall (or so I thought!,) I get a fresh shell and say sysinstall. Okay? Except I can't write the disk. Notice, I have not explicitly mounted it or done anything to reserve it. I need a procedure to do this please. It's just a small machine. But having this up let's me do a backup and once I've backed up the disks on my other computers, then I can do some serious stuff with 9.0. I'd like to use sysinstall, if possible. I know it and I like it. The answer is here (as-in arrived): http://druidbsd.sf.net/ http://druidbsd.sf.net/freebsd_druid.shtml -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ...
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:09:34PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Gnuplot is the prototypical example of a port which is badly managed. There are far too many dependencies which are absolutely *non necessary* There is absolutely no necessity of having TeX (in any form whatsoever) to run Gnuplot. Agreed. That is why it is an _option_ now. inkscape. But the cherry on the cake is that gnu plot requires pdflib, which is a non free library such that the FreeBSD project cannot ship a working gnuplot binary (that is gnuplot will not start without libpdf for which one needs to download source and compile). The reliance on pdflib is also an option. But I would agree with you that it should be off by default, instead of on. I seem to recall that the pdflib output didn't really work when I tried it, so I dropped it. occur, a port maintainer should only include the *strict minimum* dependencies necessary to make the port work, it is not his job to include the whole kitchen sink of dependencies that could be useful in some cases. So you would advocate to set all options to off be default? Why not submit a PR to that effect? Similarly maxima has a TeX dependency which has absolutely no reason to be here. Looking at the port Makefile version 1.75 (maxima 5.26.0_1), there is no TeX dependency. operation). But chasing inappropriate dependencies would be far more useful if one wants to arrive at a situation where one can envision to use binary packages for most installations of FreeBSD And who is to say what is appropriate, other than the respective maintainers of the port in question? In my opinion, packages are a dead-end street. They might be convenient but they are also one size fits all. Which as your message demonstrates is not the case. :-) Your post got me thinking, so I checked which terminals are available in a gnuplot that only includes the options X11, GD and CAIRO: canvascgm corel dpu414 dumb dxf eepic emf emtex epslatex epson_180dpi epson_60dpi epson_lx800 fig gif gpic hp2623a hp2648hp500chpdj hpgl hpljiihppj imagen jpeg latex mfmif mpnec_cp6 okidata pbm pcl5 pdfcairo png pngcairo pop postscriptpslatex pstex pstricks push qms regis starc svg tandy_60dpi tek40xx tek410x texdraw tgif tkcanvas tpic vttek x11 xlib xterm It seems that PDF (via cairo) and SVG are supported in this case. I haven't tested SVG, but pdfcairo seems to work OK. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpUKJFpMfRe8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ...
Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:09:34PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: occur, a port maintainer should only include the *strict minimum* dependencies necessary to make the port work, it is not his job to include the whole kitchen sink of dependencies that could be useful in some cases. So you would advocate to set all options to off be default? Why not submit a PR to that effect? _I_ would suggest that it might make good sense to have as many as _three_ choices of binary installations for ports with 'lots' (FSVO 'lots' :) of dependencies -- a 'bare minimums' working version, a 'typical' version, and an 'including the kitchen sink' version. Logic: give the -user- the choice -- DON'T make it for him And who is to say what is appropriate, other than the respective maintainers of the port in question? In my opinion, packages are a dead-end street. They might be convenient but they are also one size fits all. Which as your message demonstrates is not the case. :-) Three sizes should give a better fit for a lot of people, see above. grin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ...
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 01:30:37AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: Agreed. That is why it is an _option_ now. Yes but ON by default, which is the problem. It is even a bigger problem when you realize you would like using other versions of TeX than the standard one, for example you would prefer Texlive, and i would prefer an ultra minimalistic version if that existed, because i think that at least half of TeTeX is complete crap, already. I could not care less of luatex and other modern stuff, i would be happy with only the postscript version of the Knuth fonts plus a few type1 fonts that I like. I have no use for metafont and other graphic programs. The only modern improvement i find valuable is pdftex, and i find latex2e to be horrible, but unfortunately necessary nowadays. Like it or not, the next version of pdftex will be luatex. (According to some of the principal developers, Hans Hagen and Taco Hoekwater). I think luatex is interesting, because a lot of things like calculations are much better done in a general-purpose language like lua than in a macro- and token-based language like TeX. But I'm digressing. And who is to say what is appropriate, other than the respective maintainers of the port in question? In my opinion, packages are a dead-end street. They might be convenient but they are also one size fits all. Which as your message demonstrates is not the case. :-) It is here that we differ considerably, i think that ports are a complete dead end which can be easily proven by the fact that almost nobody uses FreeBSD compared to Linux binary distributions (like Debian, Ubuntu). I Initially BSD had more momentum than Linux. But then the infamous USL v. BSDi lawsuit happened, which effectively derailed BSD development for years. Packages versus ports had little to do with that. could make the same argument with Linux source based distributions like Gentoo. It is the sort of things people believe they like at first, and finally run away from because they are constantly broken. In a big system like the ports tree there will continually be ports that won't work, for various reasons. That is inherent in such a dynamic and evolving system. There is no software without bugs. But to describe the _system_ for building from source like ports, pkgsrc and gentoo as constantly broken is severely overstating the matter, IMO. According to the count today on Freshports, of the 23080 ports, only 190 are marked broken. That is about 0.8%. One should also keep in mind that packages are built from ports, and can't be made without it or something similar. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpntoYidMzG7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima ...
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:07:51PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:09:34PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: occur, a port maintainer should only include the *strict minimum* dependencies necessary to make the port work, it is not his job to include the whole kitchen sink of dependencies that could be useful in some cases. So you would advocate to set all options to off be default? Why not submit a PR to that effect? _I_ would suggest that it might make good sense to have as many as _three_ choices of binary installations for ports with 'lots' (FSVO 'lots' :) of dependencies -- a 'bare minimums' working version, a 'typical' version, and an 'including the kitchen sink' version. It would also hugely increase the complexity of the packages system. Imagine that a bare minimum version of package X requires the 'kitchen sink' version of package Y? Unless you can enforce that bare minimum versions should only require other bare minimum versions, this will get ugly fast. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp7YjBElW9ml.pgp Description: PGP signature
