Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth

2012-02-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/02/2012 05:12, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 Is that rebuild as in cd /usr/src  make buildworld or
 cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail  make

Either of those should do it.

Cheers,

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Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth

2012-02-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/02/2012 08:05, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 I have rebuilt and installed world, but no cigar.
 
 
 Feb 14 08:50:40 reader sendmail[1147]: q1E7oe7l001147:
 to=b...@bananmonarki.se, ctladdr=bernt (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00,
 xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30064, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
 dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (q1E7oevk001148 Message accepted for delivery)
 Feb 14 08:50:41 reader sm-mta[1150]: STARTTLS=client, relay=my.isp.com.,
 version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
 Feb 14 08:50:47 reader sm-mta[1150]: q1E7oevk001148:
 to=b...@bananmonarki.se, ctladdr=bernt@fqdn (1001/1001),
 delay=00:00:07, xdelay=00:00:07, mailer=relay, pri=30391,
 relay=my.isp.com. [x.x.x.x], dsn=5.7.1, stat=Service unavailable
 Feb 14 08:50:47 reader sm-mta[1150]: q1E7oevk001148: q1E7olvk001150:
 DSN: Service unavailable

Look at the output of

  ldd /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail

If there's no mention of sasl2 there, then your modifications to the
build process would seem to have failed.

Otherwise, it's a configuration problem and you need to double check
/etc/mail/$(hostname).mc and your client auth data.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Can clang compile RELENG_9?

2012-02-14 Thread krad
On 11 February 2012 21:45, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Dennis Glatting wrote:

  I get errors when trying to compile RELENG_9 with clang. Is clag suppose
  to work when it comes to compiling the OS or am I missing something:
 [snip]

 I can't speak to RELENG_9, but I have successfully rebuilt the RELEASE with
 CLANG (make/install world kernel). My /etc/make.conf as per instructions I
 found on the wiki:

 .if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == cc
 CC=clang
 .endif
 .if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == c++
 CXX=clang++
 .endif
 .if !defined(CPP) || ${CPP} == cpp
 CPP=clang-cpp
 .endif
 # Don't die on warnings
 NO_WERROR=
 WERROR=
 # Don't forget this when using Jails!
 NO_FSCHG=

 This was with amd64, have not tried any 32 bit. With custom kernel as well.

 -Mike



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I've been building 9-current and 9-stable for a year or so with few
problems. It is a supported configuration after all. It should also create
faster binaries as well as gcc 4.3 is quite old now and clang generally
stacks up very well with the later gcc versions in terms of binary
performance.
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Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth

2012-02-14 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:04+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote:

 On 2012-02-14 08:02, Josh Tolbert wrote:
  On 2/13/2012 11:12 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote:
   
   Thank you for your answer.
   
  
  I wrote this ages ago and it's still valid. You can ignore the IMAP
  stuff if you like. :)
 
 Well, no cigar for me.
 
 I'm leaning at this line.
 And I think it is somehow involed in all this mess
 
 sm-mta[37453]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.isp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3,
 verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256

I'm sorry for jumping into this thread, but verify=FAIL is expected 
unless you have your ISP's certificate chain stored in the appropriate 
directory with the appropriate file names. /etc/ssl/certs would be a 
good place to store the certificates.

A command like this one can be used to generate the hashed file 
names:

ln -s certfile `openssl x509 -noout -hash  certfile`.0

 Any idea about that? The isp does support STARTTLS.
 
 telnet smtp.isp.com 25
 Trying x.x.x.x...
 Connected to smtp.bredband2.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 smtp.isp.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
 ehlo localhost
 250-smtp.isp.com
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 10240
 250-VRFY
 250-ETRN
 250-STARTTLS
 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 250-8BITMIME
 250 DSN
 starttls
 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
 
  http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html
 
 That is a good site. Learnt me how to build sendmail at least.

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Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth

2012-02-14 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:11+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote:

 On 2012-02-14 10:43, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:04+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote:
  
   On 2012-02-14 08:02, Josh Tolbert wrote:
On 2/13/2012 11:12 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 
 Thank you for your answer.
 

I wrote this ages ago and it's still valid. You can ignore the IMAP
stuff if you like. :)
   
   Well, no cigar for me.
   
   I'm leaning at this line.
   And I think it is somehow involed in all this mess
   
   sm-mta[37453]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.isp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3,
   verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
  
  I'm sorry for jumping into this thread,
 
 Don't be sorry for that.
 
  but verify=FAIL is expected
  unless you have your ISP's certificate chain stored in the appropriate
  directory with the appropriate file names.
 
 I do not have a certificate from the isp.
 
 My tought was more in line of MY sendmail is sending
 starttls first thing before auth login.

Actually, this makes sense. It seems appropriate to establish an 
encrypted connection before sending the username and password. 
A parallel would be SSH.

At the same time the use of SSL/TLS makes it harder to debug what's 
going on.

 Then postfix gets confused.

It sounds strange, but there's a slight chance something is odd at the 
ISP's end.

 Possible scenario?

I don't have any more input at the moment. The next step would be to 
establish a dialog with your ISP and persua^Wask them to investigate 
the matter further.

  /etc/ssl/certs would be a
  good place to store the certificates.
  
  A command like this one can be used to generate the hashed file
  names:
  
  ln -s certfile `openssl x509 -noout -hash  certfile`.0
  
   Any idea about that? The isp does support STARTTLS.
   
   telnet smtp.isp.com 25
   Trying x.x.x.x...
   Connected to smtp.isp.com.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   220 smtp.isp.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
   ehlo localhost
   250-smtp.isp.com
   250-PIPELINING
   250-SIZE 10240
   250-VRFY
   250-ETRN
   250-STARTTLS
   250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
   250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
   250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
   250-8BITMIME
   250 DSN
   starttls
   220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
   
http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html
   
   That is a good site. Learnt me how to build sendmail at least.

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Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth

2012-02-14 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 06:49:52AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 2012-02-13 17:35, Nikola Pavlović skrev:
  There are lightweight MTAs just for this purpose,
 I use mail/msmtp and it works great with multiple accounts.
 Usually, this is much simpler to set up than using
 a real MTA like Sendmail or Postfix.
 
 If it is simple then it's no fun ;)
 

Heh, true that.


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net/ifstated does not compile on 9.0-RELEASE/amd64

2012-02-14 Thread Hugo Silva

# make install clean
===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
= ifstated-4.7.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch 
http://christianserving.org/ports/net/ifstated/ifstated-4.7.tar.gz

ifstated-4.7.tar.gz   100% of   14 kB   22 kBps
===  Extracting for ifstated-4.7_2,1
= SHA256 Checksum OK for ifstated-4.7.tar.gz.
===  Patching for ifstated-4.7_2,1
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for ifstated-4.7_2,1
===   ifstated-4.7_2,1 depends on shared library: event - found
===  Configuring for ifstated-4.7_2,1
===  Building for ifstated-4.7_2,1
Warning: Object directory not changed from original 
/usr/ports/net/ifstated/work/ifstated-4.7
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=k8-sse3 -Wall 
-I/usr/ports/net/ifstated/work/ifstated-4.7 -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow 
-Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -I/usr/local/include -std=gnu99 
-fstack-protector  -c ifstated.c

ifstated.c:42:19: error: event.h: No such file or directory
In file included from ifstated.c:46:
ifstated.h:50: error: field 'ev' has incomplete type
ifstated.h:110: error: field 'ev' has incomplete type
ifstated.c: In function 'main':
ifstated.c:151: warning: implicit declaration of function 'event_init'
ifstated.c:154: warning: implicit declaration of function 'signal_set'
ifstated.c:155: warning: implicit declaration of function 'signal_add'
ifstated.c:160: warning: implicit declaration of function 'evtimer_set'
ifstated.c:161: warning: implicit declaration of function 'evtimer_add'
ifstated.c:163: warning: implicit declaration of function 'event_loop'
ifstated.c: In function 'startup_handler':
ifstated.c:198: warning: implicit declaration of function 'event_set'
ifstated.c:198: error: 'EV_READ' undeclared (first use in this function)
ifstated.c:198: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ifstated.c:198: error: for each function it appears in.)
ifstated.c:198: error: 'EV_PERSIST' undeclared (first use in this function)
ifstated.c:199: warning: implicit declaration of function 'event_add'
ifstated.c: In function 'external_evtimer_setup':
ifstated.c:423: warning: implicit declaration of function 'evtimer_del'
ifstated.c: In function 'remove_expression':
ifstated.c:763: warning: implicit declaration of function 'event_del'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/ifstated/work/ifstated-4.7.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/ifstated.




Regards,

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9.0-RELEASE: Strange freezing and kernel panics on laptop

2012-02-14 Thread Ramiro Caso

Hi,

I'm in need of advice. I've recently installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on my 
laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1318) with a good deal of success. However, I've 
been experiencing a few hiccups, to say the least. The kernel is the 
GENERIC for the amd64 architecture that comes with the installation 
images (no funny compilation issues on my part):


  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD apeiron 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 
07:46:30 UTC 2012

  r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Since I've installed it, the system has been freezing for apparently no 
reason and, once in a while, rebooting upon a kernel panic. The kernel 
panics come in two varieties:


  Fatal Trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode
  Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

I have the dump files. [Concerning the Fatal Trap 12: I ran memtest86+ 
and everything turned out alright on the memory side.]


As for the recurrent freezing, it seems to me (but this is a hunch) that 
it might be related to wireless card issues (since, for what I can 
recall, it happens some time after I start having conection issues). 
Also, everytime I do a netif restart, the system just freezes after 
displaying two lines:


  bwn0: need multicast update callback
  TODO: need swap

[In order not to raise side issues, I have a fully working LP PHY 
Broadcom 4312 (except for these issues), and I have hw.bwn.usedma=0 in 
loader.conf---but the freezing thing happens whether it is set to 1 or 
0.] And that's about it. In particular, nothing shows in 
/var/log/messages. As for the panics, I'm clueless.


Maybe the following can help (or not!!). In /var/log/messages, the 
following two lines keep showing:


  acpi0: reservation of 0, 9f000 (3) failed
  acpi0: reservation of 10, 7f56d800 (3) failed

Needless to say, this won't discourage me from using FreeBSD on my 
laptop, but it isn't very funny to have these kind of problems while 
doing some work. Any help would be appreciated, if nothing else, to 
understand what's happening.


Thanks!
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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Pegasus Mc Cleaft k...@mthelicon.com writes:

 It recreates something, but the most important files, which reside in
 subfolders of the given tar.gz archives are gone, i.e. the subfolders
 are empty.
 The gunzip strategy you mentioned yields the same as a regular tar -xvf
 file.tar.gz.
 
 Pegasus, I have yet to try the pax(1) approach. I will let you know
 about how that went.

 Hum.. I'm not sure if pax will be able to help in this case. From the
 looks of it, somehow the compressed data got corrupted - I don't think pax
 will be able to deal with this any better than tar did. 

Probably correct; the right data isn't there, no tool is going to be
able to recover it. Data compression makes this more fragile (i.e., lose
the rest of the archive as opposed to only the files in which the data
corruption occurs.

 I wonder if there was a change in gzip (like maybe libarchive) between the
 two versions of BSD that might be causing the problem. If I were attacking
 the problem, I might try booting up off a 7.x bootcd and see if I can gzip
 --test the archive from the usb stick. 

It's easy enough to try, but it seems awfully unlikely to help; lots of
us have .tar.gz files going back a couple of decades, and if there were
ever new implementations that couldn't understand the old ones, some old
hand would have noticed by now.

Media errors happen, and preparing for them involves noticing them
before you try to use the data, as well as recovering if they go bad. 
The user seems to have knowingly only had one copy of the valuable data, 
which makes the word backup a bit of an unusual usage of the term...

--Lowell
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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread Mike Kelly

 I don't have the script anymore. It is among the files lost, but it was
 pretty
 much straight forward, making use of:
 tar -czf backupfile.tar.gz folders/ of/ my/ choice/.

 After creating the backups I just cp(1)ed them to an msdosfs formated
 usb stick and got them onto 8.2 this way, so the famous ascii/binary
 trap shouldn't be
 an issue here.

 Just a thought... how large were the tar.gz files? Are you maybe hitting
on a file size limit and the .tar.gz files are getting truncated? Not sure
what the limit is for msdosfs.

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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 14, 2012 7:37 AM, Mike Kelly mdke...@ualr.edu wrote:

 
  I don't have the script anymore. It is among the files lost, but it was
  pretty
  much straight forward, making use of:
  tar -czf backupfile.tar.gz folders/ of/ my/ choice/.
 
  After creating the backups I just cp(1)ed them to an msdosfs formated
  usb stick and got them onto 8.2 this way, so the famous ascii/binary
  trap shouldn't be
  an issue here.
 
  Just a thought... how large were the tar.gz files? Are you maybe hitting
 on a file size limit and the .tar.gz files are getting truncated? Not sure
 what the limit is for msdosfs.

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or perhaps pulled the drive before unmounting... with pending writes. just
a thought.

Waitman Gobble
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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:56 AM, _ pancakekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Trying to recover these files on 8.2, I found that some of the archives -
 unfortunately those with
 the files that are dear to me - are corrupted.

Do you have MD5, SHA256 etc... checksums of the
.tar.gz files somewhere? Do they still match, or do
they differ now?

(If they match, you have a software problem with tar
or gzip; try reading the files under Linux (Knoppix?)
just to be sure. If they don't match, either the media
is corrupt (very likely), or something's wrong on the
code path that reads your backup device (a lot less
likely))

-cpghost.

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Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread Jerry
I was contacted recently by a friend who was studying printing under
FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html. He
presently runs a mixture of Windows and Ubuntu PCs.

The documentation deals primarily with parallel and serial
printers. Personally, I cannot remember the last time I used either;
however, that is not pertinent. My friend accesses the printer(s) the
same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am
using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans
CUPS if possible.

I know it is possible; however, I cannot find any actual documentation
under the printing section in the FreeBSD manual. If anyone could
provide a link to such documentation, it would be appreciated. Updating
the Printing section in the manual would also seem like a worthwhile
endeavor also. I did a quick perusal of the section and even USB is
discouraged.

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Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Mike Dockery

Greetings,

I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros 
seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the 
first place.  They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well 
(like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone.  Freedom of choice is always 
best.


My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel 
Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?


I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month.

Thanks,

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Re: USB 3 / eSATA support

2012-02-14 Thread Dean E. Weimer


I think for now I am going to build FreeBSD VM on my windows box and
dedicate it to running Bacula Director and Storage Daemon, I was able
to get a 20MB sustained through put through the VMware USB emulation
copying a file from an SFTP as I had no large files on the local
system from my test FreeBSD 9 VM.  Though now I don't know why I
didn't think to just us dd from /dev/random to a file on the disk,
will likely give that a try once my new VM is built.  This will get 
me

by performance to a workable speed until I can come up with a more
permanent solution, and keep me from spending more money this month 
so

I have a little bit left to add to my savings account.


Just an update to this thread in case anyone runs into it, and thinks 
building a FreeBSD VM within VMware to run Bacula backups to a USB hard 
drive is a good idea.  It turns out that it isn't, not sure if its a 
VMware FreeBSD guest issue, or a general VMware USB issue, but the heavy 
load on the USB drive has caused several crashes of the host system.  
Which of course in turn means a hard crash of the FreeBSD virtual 
machine, complete with corrupted file systems.  It did give me some 
practice recovering lost Bacula database as I lost my whole PostgreSQL 
database due to corrupted files once.  This might work for many small 
files, backups ran OK for my web server, but backups against the FreeNAS 
server with around 200G about 100G is an iTunes library, and around 
another 20G is photos.  When hitting these bigger files with less 
overhead that allowed for more throughput to the USB device the crashes 
began to occur.


Of course, I should note this setup was done with a FreeBSD9.0-Release 
virtual machine built from source, using clang, and all ports where 
possible also built with clang.  And running open-vm-tools (these do 
fail to build with clang) as the VMware tools won't install on FreeBSD 
9.0  I am sure VMware has not done any testing with this setup yet, nor 
do I know if they ever will.  So the problem may not exist with other 
guest operating systems.


Also of note, I was originally running under a windows 7 host PC, after 
the crashes, I switched to CentOS 6 on the host, with a windows Virtual 
machine to run the applications needing windows.  The crashes still 
occur under CentOS, though a little less frequent than they did under 
windows.


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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread krad
AMD As this just means 64 bit
On Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM, Mike Dockery mdock...@hargray.com wrote:

 Greetings,

 I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem
 to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first
 place.  They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like
 pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone.  Freedom of choice is always best.

 My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel
 Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?

 I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month.

 Thanks,

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Re: Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread John Levine
same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am
using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans
CUPS if possible.

If the printer supports the hoary lpd protocol, you can configure it
in /etc/printcap.  If it wants socket or IPP protocols, CUPS is the
least painful route.

Installing CUPS on freebsd is pretty straightforward.  The main wart
is that you have to manually move all the lpr commands in /usr/bin out
of the way and symlink them to the CUPS versions in /usr/local/bin.
Other than that, the web config works great, and it has drivers for
vast numbers of printers, particularly when you also install hplip.

R's,
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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread krad
Just another silly thought try the tar j flag rather than the z flag, as
you might have got your compression algorithms confused. Try the xz one as
well just in case
On Feb 14, 2012 3:37 PM, Mike Kelly mdke...@ualr.edu wrote:

 
  I don't have the script anymore. It is among the files lost, but it was
  pretty
  much straight forward, making use of:
  tar -czf backupfile.tar.gz folders/ of/ my/ choice/.
 
  After creating the backups I just cp(1)ed them to an msdosfs formated
  usb stick and got them onto 8.2 this way, so the famous ascii/binary
  trap shouldn't be
  an issue here.
 
  Just a thought... how large were the tar.gz files? Are you maybe hitting
 on a file size limit and the .tar.gz files are getting truncated? Not sure
 what the limit is for msdosfs.

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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Mike Dockery wrote:

 Greetings,

Aloha,

 
 I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros 
 seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the 
 first place.  They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well 
 (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone.  Freedom of choice is always 
 best.

Yeah, I used to use Linux but they became a bunch of Freedom Nazis
controlled by big companies.

Happily using FreeBSD for 10 years.

 
 My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel 
 Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?

Generally, for an x86 machine with 4GB or greater memory use amd64.
Memory less than that use i386.

ie. you almost certainly want to use amd64, I should think.

 
 I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month.

Excellent. Best of luck and any problems not covered in the handbook
or google, post here. Welcome to FreeBSD!

 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Sean Cavanaugh


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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:47 PM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Processor question

Greetings,

I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem
to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first
place.  They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like
pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone.  Freedom of choice is always best.

My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel
Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?

I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month.

Thanks,

Mike Dockery
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Up to you if you want 32-bit or 64 -bit. Used to be that some of the higher
level ports only worked in 32-bit but more and more have been tweaked to
work on both now. If you have 4GB or more memory, def recommend amd64.

-Sean

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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/02/2012 19:47, Mike Dockery wrote:
 My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel
 Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?

Choose amd64 by default, unless you have a specific application that
requires an i386 system.  Even if you have less than 4GiB RAM.

Be aware that most 32bit apps can be run on a 64bit system.  The
converse is not true.  Also, it's a lot easier to pop in some extra RAM
sticks, than it is to convert from i386 to amd64 and then pop in some
extra RAM sticks...

Cheers,

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Re: Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread Robison, Dave
You're going to want to use lpr, and you'll have to set up /etc/printcap 
first.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-lpr-freebsd.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-unix.html

The command I use to print to a printer set up in /etc/printcap:

lpr -Pprintername filename_to_print

lpq will show you the queue, lprm removes jobs from the queue.

Hope this helps.




On 02/14/2012 11:57, Jerry wrote:

I was contacted recently by a friend who was studying printing under
FreeBSDhttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html. He
presently runs a mixture of Windows and Ubuntu PCs.

The documentation deals primarily with parallel and serial
printers. Personally, I cannot remember the last time I used either;
however, that is not pertinent. My friend accesses the printer(s) the
same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am
using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans
CUPS if possible.

I know it is possible; however, I cannot find any actual documentation
under the printing section in the FreeBSD manual. If anyone could
provide a link to such documentation, it would be appreciated. Updating
the Printing section in the manual would also seem like a worthwhile
endeavor also. I did a quick perusal of the section and even USB is
discouraged.




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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/02/2012 21:28, Nerius Landys wrote:
 If you do choose 32 bit, you can compile the PAE kernel which will
 allow access to all of your memory, but you'll still be limited to
 under 4 GB per process memory.

Better pray all your devices have PAE compatible drivers then.

PAE is an obsolete bodge.  A sticking plaster for people stuck with
32-bit processors but who needed lots of RAM.  Just be glad you have
64-bit capable processors nowadays so you don't ever need to use it.
The sooner it fades into history, the better.

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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Mihai Donțu
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:47:08 -0500 Mike Dockery wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros 
 seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in
 the first place.  They seem intent on forcing things that do not work
 well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone.  Freedom of choice is
 always best.
 

Far be it for me to stop you from adventuring into the FreeBSD world, I
encourage you actually. :-) However, note that you always had and will
have the freedom of choice. One Linux distribution might have chosen to
go the pulseaudio way (binary-only ones usually do), but FreeBSD
inspired ones, with ports-like features, offer you the choice to go
plain ALSA or even OSS (Crux, Gentoo etc.).

In what concerns nouveau, I'm afraid there's no running away from it.
Reverse engineering close source drivers for modern GPU-s is an
incredibly hard task. FreeBSD will likely get nouveau when KMS gets
finished (soon I hear?). Until then, the good old nVidia blob will do.

So instead of seeing FreeBSD as a place of retreat, see it as an
adventure! :-)

 My question is:  Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my
 Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386?
 

Definitely amd64.

 I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month.
 

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Re: Processor question

2012-02-14 Thread Nerius Landys
If you do choose 32 bit, you can compile the PAE kernel which will
allow access to all of your memory, but you'll still be limited to
under 4 GB per process memory.
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Re: Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread perryh
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 I know it is possible; however, I cannot find any actual
 documentation under the printing section in the FreeBSD
 manual.  If anyone could provide a link to such documentation,
 it would be appreciated.

Provided the printer supports lpd protocol, i.e. it looks like
a remote BSD machine operating as a print server, the setup is
covered in the Networked Printing handbook section (as of 6.1
-- I don't seem to have any newer doc package installed).  The
comments in /etc/printcap are also useful, and there's some
coverage in the Corporate Networker's Guide:  Setting up LPR/LPD
on FreeBSD and Printing from UNIX.
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Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(

2012-02-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
krad kra...@gmail.com writes:

 Just another silly thought try the tar j flag rather than the z flag, as
 you might have got your compression algorithms confused. Try the xz one as
 well just in case

The system tar (based on libarchive) will figure all of this out for
you, regardless of which flag you give it.
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fixit disc for 7.3 #1?

2012-02-14 Thread Gary Kline
guys,

is there still a  way of fixing something i did to my existing
installation?  it does nothing but continually cycle e and try to
reboot into the old release i had from feb 2011.  i thought editing
out /etc/fstab would do it.  but nope, it throws me into the lowest
level manual config and then hangs.  i cannot even install release 9.0
which is the only other path.  either some stable distro of debian,
or getting past release8 and going to   9.

first, tho, i need to get rid of this [[messed up]] 7.3.

let me share a story from when i was visiting a favorite cousin who
put up about half of NASA's huge antennas.  long retired, he lives
out where not even god could find him.  he wanted to see proof of my
beloved freebsd.  so, using a new set of discs that i bought, i
started the installation.  { FWIW, --this was in july, 2000.  }  I
happened to mention that freebsd had trouble configuring the
printers.  or that   that could get hairy.  he stopped what he was
doing and asked me to get back to his windows toys and games.  i had
a floppy w ith the mystery file MBR that removed that single file.

my hunch is that since i never mess with anything but freebsd, i
left it configure itself by default and that the same thing that
stalled me for ten minutes back in 2000, might be what's stopping
me from installing anything over my 7.3 in 2012.

any wizards how how to fix  this?

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FreeBSD / Gnome / Audio

2012-02-14 Thread Tim Gustafson
Hello,

I've read through a zillion posts in the FreeBSD forums and various other 
Google sources about getting audio to work in Gnome on FreeBSD.  Most of the 
posts say something like pulseaudio sucks, don't use it, and that's fine, but 
what do I replace it with?  Since I've removed pulseaudio from all my installed 
ports, I now have no audio control panel under System, Preferences, and I 
have no volume control slider near the clock.

Audio is working in that I can play a video in Firefox and hear the audio, but 
it's currently coming out the wrong sound card (for whatever reason, Dell's 
audio card shows up twice: once for the internal speaker and once for the 
external speaker/headphone jacks).  So I can't tell Gnome to push the audio out 
/dev/dsp1 now, rather than /dev/dsp0.

Basically, how do I control how applications put sound out to my system when 
pulseaudio is not installed?

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Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?

2012-02-14 Thread Da Rock

On 02/15/12 12:01, Gary Kline wrote:

On 02/14/2012 05:40 PM, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/15/12 10:08, Gary Kline wrote:

guys,

is there still a  way of fixing something i did to my existing
installation?  it does nothing but continually cycle e and try to
reboot into the old release i had from feb 2011.  i thought editing
out /etc/fstab would do it.  but nope, it throws me into the lowest
level manual config and then hangs.  i cannot even install release 9.0
which is the only other path.  either some stable distro of debian,
or getting past release8 and going to   9.

first, tho, i need to get rid of this [[messed up]] 7.3.

let me share a story from when i was visiting a favorite cousin who
put up about half of NASA's huge antennas.  long retired, he lives
out where not even god could find him.  he wanted to see proof of my
beloved freebsd.  so, using a new set of discs that i bought, i
started the installation.  { FWIW, --this was in july, 2000.  }  I
happened to mention that freebsd had trouble configuring the
printers.  or that   that could get hairy.  he stopped what he was
doing and asked me to get back to his windows toys and games.  i had
a floppy w ith the mystery file MBR that removed that single file.

my hunch is that since i never mess with anything but freebsd, i
left it configure itself by default and that the same thing that
stalled me for ten minutes back in 2000, might be what's stopping
me from installing anything over my 7.3 in 2012.

any wizards how how to fix  this?
Are you sure you can't backup your important files and start again? 
You might have a good deal of trouble jumping by 2 major releases at 
the best of times.


Also, 9.0 is significantly different in many ways to 7.x in dir 
structure _and_ filesystems, to just mention a few. I new (clean) 
install would be _highly_ recommended ;)

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i have a working copy on 7.3 #4 on my Server.  the server in a 2009 
dell;  the one that is busted and that i want to upgrade ---to either 
debian-6-iso or freebsd9-iso is my old 2003 dell.  two different 
computers.  the thing with the old dell is that nothing can boot off 
it.  it keep cycling, trying to boot a 7.3 #1.


i just remembered that the floppy disk   was a DOS file  with a secret 
command :A:\MBR that got rid of that boot track.


it's looking more and more hopeless.



wasn't/isn't there some kind of fixit CD?
You can't take the disks out to copy data off them? Or use 7.0 live to 
copy across to the working dell?


If you cant do that, then use the live disk to run fdisk and restore the 
mbr. man fdisk


If you have already tried installing 9 though, you may have some 
unexpected behaviour - kinda like what you're seeing now I'll bet.

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Re: zroot won't mount after 9.0-RC2 - 9.0-RELEASE upgrade

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 15, 2012 2:31:10 AM +0200, Daniel Shahaf is alleged to 
have said:



One of our amd64 servers runs 9.0-RC2 (releng/9.0@r228325) with a zfs
root.

It fails to boot the 9.0-RELEASE (releng/9.0@r229305) GENERIC kernel
(self compiled) with a mountfrom error:

http://people.apache.org/~danielsh/infra/loki-20120215-mountfrom.png
mountfrom zfs:zroot
Trying to mount root from zfs:zroot []...
Mounting from zfs:zroot failed with error 2.

We've tried to upgrade the zpool format 15-28; the symptoms are
unchanged.  (The zroot fs is at version 4.)

Why does 9.0-RC2 boot while 9.0-RELEASE (as /boot/testkernel) doesn't?
What can do to boot 9.0-RELEASE from our zfs root filesystem?


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Did you update the bootloader?  Depending on when you installed the system, 
it's possible your upgrading the zpool means the bootloader can't read it.


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Re: zroot won't mount after 9.0-RC2 - 9.0-RELEASE upgrade

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Staal wrote on Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 21:39:40 -0500:
 --As of February 15, 2012 2:31:10 AM +0200, Daniel Shahaf is alleged
 to have said:
 
 One of our amd64 servers runs 9.0-RC2 (releng/9.0@r228325) with a zfs
 root.
 
 It fails to boot the 9.0-RELEASE (releng/9.0@r229305) GENERIC kernel
 (self compiled) with a mountfrom error:
 
 http://people.apache.org/~danielsh/infra/loki-20120215-mountfrom.png
 mountfrom zfs:zroot
 Trying to mount root from zfs:zroot []...
 Mounting from zfs:zroot failed with error 2.
 
 We've tried to upgrade the zpool format 15-28; the symptoms are
 unchanged.  (The zroot fs is at version 4.)
 
 Why does 9.0-RC2 boot while 9.0-RELEASE (as /boot/testkernel) doesn't?
 What can do to boot 9.0-RELEASE from our zfs root filesystem?
 
 --As for the rest, it is mine.
 
 Did you update the bootloader?  Depending on when you installed the
 system, it's possible your upgrading the zpool means the bootloader
 can't read it.
 

Immediately after upgrading the zroot zpool I ran

gpart bootcode -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ${devices}

as instructed in /usr/src/UPDATING.  I did not pass -b.

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Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?

2012-02-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:51:37PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:51:37 +1000
 From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
 Subject: Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 On 02/15/12 12:01, Gary Kline wrote:
 On 02/14/2012 05:40 PM, Da Rock wrote:
 On 02/15/12 10:08, Gary Kline wrote:
 guys,
 

[[old stuff that nobody will reread!]]

 
 i have a working copy on 7.3 #4 on my Server.  the server in a
 2009 dell;  the one that is busted and that i want to upgrade
 ---to either debian-6-iso or freebsd9-iso is my old 2003 dell.
 two different computers.  the thing with the old dell is that
 nothing can boot off it.  it keep cycling, trying to boot a 7.3
 #1.
 
 i just remembered that the floppy disk   was a DOS file  with a
 secret command :A:\MBR that got rid of that boot track.
 
 it's looking more and more hopeless.
 
 
 
 wasn't/isn't there some kind of fixit CD?
 You can't take the disks out to copy data off them? Or use 7.0 live
 to copy across to the working dell?


what is on my '09 dell is current.  i copy my web, mail, and DNS
files at least nightly to here [ my ubuntu desktop].  i also have
several copies of the tarball here and on one other computer.  so
there is nothing on the 2003 dell that i need.

a friend helped me bring in it from the garage on sunday and cable
it up.  i was doing to e either go  with debian or fbsd-9 as a new
Server in a few months.

i am tir ed of trying to keep FBSD current.  it is just a server:
DNS, mail, and  web.  years ago the thinking was that if a release
worked,  then great: there was no need to keep upgrading just for
thesake of upgrading.

my ubuntu desktop is configured to keep itself updated.  this frees
me from wondering if an updated gtk will be missing a dependency; so
i can concentrate on my hacking.  this is the main reason i'm
considering quitting freebsd for my server and going with something
_almost_ as good.


 
 If you cant do that, then use the live disk to run fdisk and restore
 the mbr. man fdisk


ye gods! cab you give me a url to this 'live' file?  my
d/load on freebsd-9-iso is about 3 minutes from finishing
up.  i would like to see how much work this live cd is going
to entain.  and how much different it will be to get my
server files onto a linux-based platform.  ---i've been
using freebsd since release 2.0.5.  long time


 
 If you have already tried installing 9 though, you may have some
 unexpected behaviour - kinda like what you're seeing now I'll bet.


not yet. the ISO file is safely tucked away.  it would fail.
i've got to use the live distribution first.


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Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?

2012-02-14 Thread Da Rock

On 02/15/12 14:03, Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:51:37PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:51:37 +1000
From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
Subject: Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

On 02/15/12 12:01, Gary Kline wrote:

On 02/14/2012 05:40 PM, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/15/12 10:08, Gary Kline wrote:

guys,


[[old stuff that nobody will reread!]]


i have a working copy on 7.3 #4 on my Server.  the server in a
2009 dell;  the one that is busted and that i want to upgrade
---to either debian-6-iso or freebsd9-iso is my old 2003 dell.
two different computers.  the thing with the old dell is that
nothing can boot off it.  it keep cycling, trying to boot a 7.3
#1.

i just remembered that the floppy disk   was a DOS file  with a
secret command :A:\MBR that got rid of that boot track.

it's looking more and more hopeless.



wasn't/isn't there some kind of fixit CD?

You can't take the disks out to copy data off them? Or use 7.0 live
to copy across to the working dell?


what is on my '09 dell is current.  i copy my web, mail, and DNS
files at least nightly to here [ my ubuntu desktop].  i also have
several copies of the tarball here and on one other computer.  so
there is nothing on the 2003 dell that i need.

a friend helped me bring in it from the garage on sunday and cable
it up.  i was doing to e either go  with debian or fbsd-9 as a new
Server in a few months.

i am tir ed of trying to keep FBSD current.  it is just a server:
DNS, mail, and  web.  years ago the thinking was that if a release
worked,  then great: there was no need to keep upgrading just for
thesake of upgrading.

my ubuntu desktop is configured to keep itself updated.  this frees
me from wondering if an updated gtk will be missing a dependency; so
i can concentrate on my hacking.  this is the main reason i'm
considering quitting freebsd for my server and going with something
_almost_ as good.



If you cant do that, then use the live disk to run fdisk and restore
the mbr. man fdisk


ye gods! cab you give me a url to this 'live' file?  my
d/load on freebsd-9-iso is about 3 minutes from finishing
up.  i would like to see how much work this live cd is going
to entain.  and how much different it will be to get my
server files onto a linux-based platform.  ---i've been
using freebsd since release 2.0.5.  long time
It will be in the release archives - probably a live version of the 
legacy release atm, so check there first. Otherwise just hunt through 
the ftp directories, it shouldn't be hard to find. I had a 7.0 livefs 
version at one point.




If you have already tried installing 9 though, you may have some
unexpected behaviour - kinda like what you're seeing now I'll bet.


not yet. the ISO file is safely tucked away.  it would fail.
i've got to use the live distribution first.




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