Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:41:39 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: > > On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > >> Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any > >> attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname > >> lookups. > >> > >> Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I > >> have to admit, it was rather startling at first. > > > > > > Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS > > servers, or are you doing lookups yourself? > Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site > (not fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark > cloud passed over? ;) Hmm, isn't that strange? Maybe it only affected people along certain routes? I don't know, I really have no idea what caused it. Just thought I'd see if anyone else had noticed it or had any information as to what actually happened during that time. No biggie. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:01:53 -0600 Mark Felder wrote: > On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any > > attempt to > > connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. > > > > Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I > > have > > to admit, it was rather startling at first. > > > Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, > or are you doing lookups yourself? I run named on my box as a caching name server, using my ISP's name servers with the auto_forward option, with the standard root servers as a fallback. Name resolution appeared to be working normally for everything but FreeBSD during the time this was happening. The first time I saw it, my ISP's name servers redirected me to their own page for failed lookups. I disabled the auto_forward and restarted named. The next time, it was Google Chrome which returned a redirected page. This went on for, like I said, about 45 minutes, then it all went back to normal. First time in the 16 years I've been using FreeBSD that I've ever seen the site become unreachable. Was just curious if anyone else noticed this or had any information as to what happened. No big whoop. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
Hi, I think that your irony detectors got damaged while reading my post. I am sorry for this. On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > > > ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to > > > name a few: > > > > - apps re-write system libs at will > > > > Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? > > I'm not aware of any cases where installing or firing up an editor, web > server, or mail user agent alters base system libraries. I think you are > mistaken. > Isn't this a cool feature? > > > > > > - no lib versioning > > > > I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I > > remember they put a version number into the library name. > > I read "no lib versioning" as meaning "we don't get the same support for > being able to use multiple versions of a library for different purposes," > but maybe I'm mistaken. How can you say this? > > > > - no filesystem-based security > > > > FAT rules! > > Uh . . . what? It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > > > - default network protocols are insecure > > > > Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do > > some catching up. > > I suspect this was a reference to things like SMB/CIFS and other common > networking protocols and toolsets on MS Windows systems. Is this all in there by default? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to > > name a few: Actually, I disagree with this statement. Many of MS Windows' problems are a result of poor management, too. For instance, the policy of hiding (known) grave security issues for years, and of launching smear campaigns against security researchers who get tired of waiting for Microsoft to do anything about such grave vulnerabilities and thus publish information for end users to use in making technology decisions and trying to mitigate their exposure, adds up to a whole lot of problem for MS Windows, too. It's certainly true that a lot of problems are based on poor design, though. > > > > - no clean separation of system and apps > > it is very clearly separated. Perhaps you can explain the pervasive spread of IE's tentacles throughout the system for much of the lifetime of the MS Windows family of operating systems, then. > > > - apps re-write system libs at will > > Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? I'm not aware of any cases where installing or firing up an editor, web server, or mail user agent alters base system libraries. I think you are mistaken. > > > - no lib versioning > > I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I > remember they put a version number into the library name. I read "no lib versioning" as meaning "we don't get the same support for being able to use multiple versions of a library for different purposes," but maybe I'm mistaken. > > > - there is not out of the box user / admin separation > > Another point where FreeBSD is far behind. It is not possible to give > every user on FreeBSD its own account and full administration rights. 1. Plan 9: some kind of next generation rights management and privilege separation 2. FreeBSD: architectural privilege separation between user accounts 3. MS Windows: user-level restrictions on what users can do, trivially bypassed by DRM software and malicious code I think the way you try to paint situations 2 and 3 as being equivalent is grossly off the mark. > > > - no filesystem-based security > > FAT rules! Uh . . . what? > > > - default network protocols are insecure > > Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do > some catching up. I suspect this was a reference to things like SMB/CIFS and other common networking protocols and toolsets on MS Windows systems. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have to admit, it was rather startling at first. Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, or are you doing lookups yourself? Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud passed over? ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On 03/11/12 02:31, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Saturday 10 March 2012 14:28:05 Joshua Isom wrote: [...] it seems that you delete the 'masterpiece'. wine was able to fix the problem. Do not forget that most of the problems Windows has are not linked to design. I am guessing this is a sarcastic comment!! ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to name a few: - no clean separation of system and apps it is very clearly separated. - apps re-write system libs at will Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? - no lib versioning I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I remember they put a version number into the library name. - there is not out of the box user / admin separation Another point where FreeBSD is far behind. It is not possible to give every user on FreeBSD its own account and full administration rights. No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security to boot. - no filesystem-based security FAT rules! - default network protocols are insecure Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do some catching up. ...and this is only scratching the surface Windows is a well-marketed (gangster-style) piece of crap. Same with SAP, Oracle and many other widely-used "enterprise grade" IT. These folks are marketing machines, not technology companies: Cash rules! Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have to admit, it was rather startling at first. Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, or are you doing lookups yourself? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have to admit, it was rather startling at first. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: imap server performance benchmarks
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:17:15 -0600, Da Rock wrote: Yes, thats true. That was tested in the paper: a cyrus? using sql database backend performed faster in searches and lookups. But writing and deleting was a drag, and you lose the shell; but I'm not sure that thats such a problem as one could find tools in the sql commands (provided you know databases well enough). Since Archiveopteryx is so tightly integrated with Postgres, this seems to be less of a problem. From their FAQ[1]: Some question about capacity.This question crops up in different shapes — “how many users?”, “how big?” Archiveopteryx's bottleneck is the number of deliveries per minute, everything else is irrelevant. How many messages do you need to inject into the database in the busiest five-minute period of theday? In a business, that's usually in the morning and immediately after lunch. On fast PC hardware,Archiveopteryx currently handles in the neighbourhood of 4000 deliveries per minute. Wayback Machine has this FAQ entry going back to 2007. I'm pretty sure that on current hardware we can do more than 4000 messages per minute. On the topic of deletes: They're pretty fast in AOX. Deletion is only a flag and a nightly cron does the real purging. You set a retention policy -- you choose how long the email stays in the DB before it's actually purged. It's pretty slick, and I like setting things like forced deletion of all emails in my SPAM folder if they're older than 30 days, and my other mailboxes I can undelete up to 14 days after. It's saved my butt once or twice. I'd love to have this for our customer's email. The real problem when you start dipping into this type of an environment is figuring out how to support it. You're no longer running a mail server; you're now a DBA. If I implemented this at work I have three hurdles: 1) Not pissing anyone off when they find out their GPG is broken (low likelihood, but it's naughty to do this. FYI, they're working on a fix but it has significant hurdles.) 2) We're now admins of a 120GB Postgres database. This is a daunting task, and the hardware requirements are more than if you were just running Dovecot/Cyrus. (AOX does dedup and my estimate brings this down to ~100GB, but I don't know how the big indexes will be) 3) Well now we probably want a slave so backups don't lock the tables at night I absolutely love the idea, but outside of my own email or hosting for a friend I don't think it's a feasible solution, which saddens me... a few more devs and the project could really shine. [1] http://archiveopteryx.org/faq/mailstore#capacity ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
Hi, On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > > > On Saturday 10 March 2012 14:28:05 Joshua Isom wrote: > > [...] it seems that you delete the 'masterpiece'. > > > > > wine was able to fix the problem. Do not forget that most of the problems > > Windows has are not linked to design. > > I am guessing this is a sarcastic comment!! > > ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to > name a few: > > - no clean separation of system and apps it is very clearly separated. > - apps re-write system libs at will Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? > - no lib versioning I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I remember they put a version number into the library name. > - there is not out of the box user / admin separation Another point where FreeBSD is far behind. It is not possible to give every user on FreeBSD its own account and full administration rights. > - no filesystem-based security FAT rules! > - default network protocols are insecure Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do some catching up. > > ...and this is only scratching the surface > > Windows is a well-marketed (gangster-style) piece of crap. Same with > SAP, Oracle and many other widely-used "enterprise grade" IT. These > folks are marketing machines, not technology companies: Cash rules! Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Erich Dollansky
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Saturday 10 March 2012 14:28:05 Joshua Isom wrote:
[...]
>
> wine was able to fix the problem. Do not forget that most of the problems
> Windows has are not linked to design.
I am guessing this is a sarcastic comment!!
ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to
name a few:
- no clean separation of system and apps
- apps re-write system libs at will
- no lib versioning
- there is not out of the box user / admin separation
- no filesystem-based security
- default network protocols are insecure
...and this is only scratching the surface
Windows is a well-marketed (gangster-style) piece of crap. Same with
SAP, Oracle and many other widely-used "enterprise grade" IT. These
folks are marketing machines, not technology companies:
q{
There is no inherent value in a technology per se. The value is
determined instead by the business model used to bring it to market.
The same technology taken to the market through two different business
models will yield different amounts of value. An inferior technology
with a better business model will often trump a better technology
commercialized through an inferior business model.
}
"Open Innovation", (Chesbrough 2003)
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Alejandro Imass
>
> Erich
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Re: apache22 + mod_fastcgi
Have you tried pointing your vhost's fcgi handler to the same unix socket path you use for your default vhost ? On 10 Mar 2012, at 02:35, alexus wrote: > if it would be incorrectly it wouldn't work the first time (default host) > virtualhost has a copy from a default host, the only difference is > local path to directory, that's all > ifmodule is there just in case if for whatever reason module is > missing, site can operate in degraded state vs not operate at all and > other virtual hosts can work as well otherwise i have to go and > comment out alot of lines manually so it's not ifmodule as that proven > to work, but in any case i added ifmodule after, line was there before > without ifmodule so it didn't work before either.. > > > mbp:~ alexus$ curl -I http://XX.XXX.XX.XXX/php/phpinfo.php > HTTP/1.1 200 OK > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:34:29 GMT > Server: Apache/2.2.21 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 > mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.7.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 > X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.8 > Content-Type: text/html > > mbp:~ alexus$ curl -I http://virtualhost.com/php/phpinfo.php > HTTP/1.1 200 OK > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:34:42 GMT > Server: Apache/2.2.21 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 > mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.7.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 > Last-Modified: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:10:09 GMT > ETag: "97c8ef-11-4b99824b74240" > Accept-Ranges: bytes > Content-Length: 17 > Content-Type: application/x-httpd-php > > mbp:~ alexus$ > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> I think you're naming your module incorrectly. >> >> First, try just setting the handler in your vhost w/o the ifmodule stuff. >> If that works, you know where you've gone wrong. >> >> >> On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:12, alexus wrote: >> >>> i'd like to follow up with this question if possible >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM, alexus wrote: --- LoadModule fastcgi_module libexec/apache22/mod_fastcgi.so AddHandler php5-fastcgi .php FastCgiExternalServer /usr/local/www/apache22/data/php -socket /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock --- this works for my apache for default virtualhost, yet if i use same thing under a virtualhost it won't work ServerName DocumentRoot /home/xxx/xxx/htdocs/ AddHandler php5-fastcgi .php FastCgiExternalServer /home/xxx/xxx/htdocs/php -socket /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock in default virtual host i PHP scripts gets executed no problem, under second it actually just starts downloading that php script.. any ideas? -- http://alexus.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://alexus.org/ >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
