Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]

 thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
 you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
 file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
 again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:
 
 loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object
 
 i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
 libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
 you know how i can fiix it??
 
I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps 
that was a typo?

 Did you use the command:   Xorg -configure ?

from the command prompt as the root user first?
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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Stas Verberkt

Warren Block schreef op :

The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
used by the svn checkout.


Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread saeedeh motlagh
yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config
xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
don't have desktop.
i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.

i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
desktop on my BSD box.




On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote:
 [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]

 thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
 you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
 file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
 again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:

 loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
 object

 i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
 libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
 you know how i can fiix it??

 I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there,
 perhaps that was a typo?

Did you use the command:   Xorg -configure ?

 from the command prompt as the root user first?
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 12:39:43 +0430 ]

 yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config
 xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
 and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
 don't have desktop.
 i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.
 
 i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
 desktop on my BSD box.

Ok, that shows your graphics card will support Xorg. What options did you 
select when you built X server from ports?

Also, after you've installed Xorg you need to install a window manager or 
desktop like KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, ...

Then you need to create the file .xinitrc in your home directory; it should 
contain something like this:

exec spectrwm

Spectrwm is the Window Manager I use, so xinit uses the exec command to start 
the window manager, in my case spectrwm.

Have you done that yet?
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to 
test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in 
your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can 
then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. 
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exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Göran Löwkrantz
We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.


Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.


em0@pci0:2:0:0:	class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00

   vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
   device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
   class  = network
   subclass   = ethernet

Any other suggestions appreciated.

/glz
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
Hi,

Did you then copy the xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? You'll
need to do that for it to be used by default.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:43 +0430
saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config
 xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
 and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
 don't have desktop.
 i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.
 
 i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
 desktop on my BSD box.
 
 
 
 
 On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote:
  [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]
 
  thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
  you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
  file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
  again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:
 
  loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
  object
 
  i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
  libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
  you know how i can fiix it??
 
  I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there,
  perhaps that was a typo?
 
   Did you use the command:   Xorg -configure ?
 
  from the command prompt as the root user first?
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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin

 We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
 shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
 the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
 see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
 from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.
 
 Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
 driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.
 
 em0@pci0:2:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 
 Any other suggestions appreciated.

You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel.
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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Göran Löwkrantz

No, that won't work. This is the NIC we have traffic over:
em1@pci0:3:0:0:	class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00

   vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
   device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
   class  = network
   subclass   = ethernet

So to be exact, I need em0 to not be probed while em1 is probed and 
attached.


/glz

--On September 18, 2012 10:04:21 +0100 Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net 
wrote:





We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a
shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS
but  the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad
FBSD don't  see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that
disables the NIC  from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI
also.

Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI
bus  driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.

em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

Any other suggestions appreciated.


You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel.
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread saeedeh motlagh
thanks dude, yes Steve i copied it.

thanks Jamie, ok i'll try it and inform you results.


On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote:
 ... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just
 to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec
 twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's
 working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want.
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schg flags from installworld

2012-09-18 Thread Gareth de Vaux
Hi all, I built a jail for the first time but realised I needed to redo
the buildworld. 'make installworld DESTDIR=/usr/jail/ns2' then failed with:

install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444   libc.a /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib
install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg -S  libc.so.7 /usr/jail/ns2/lib
install: rename: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/INS@G4LP to /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: 
Operation not permitted
*** Error code 71

# ls -lo /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  schg 1157460 Sep 17 19:40 /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7

Which I can't change in the current secure level. It seems that the original
installworld set this with the 'install -fschg' flag? Why? The host system 
doesn't
have these flags. These files are also affected:

# chflags -R noschg /usr/jail/ns2
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/sbin/init: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chfn: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchpass: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchfn: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/yppasswd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rlogin: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/var/empty: Operation not permitted

# uname -a
FreeBSD XXX 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Wed Sep 12 22:15:43 SAST 2012 
root@XXX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

# cat /etc/make.conf
WITHOUT_X11=yes
X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}
CFLAGS=-O -pipe
# added by use.perl 2012-09-13 20:25:18
PERL_VERSION=5.16.0

# cat /etc/src.conf
WITHOUT_PROFILE=TRUE
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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread jb
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:

 ... 
 Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
 driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.
 ...

DEVICE.HINTS(5)

The format is:
hint.driver.unit.keyword=value
The keyword may be:
...
disabled  can be set to 1 to disable the device.
   ^
Note the wording ^ here.

jb


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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread Bernt Hansson

2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev:

my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
think i should do something else to change my driver.
please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
thanks



Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again.





On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote:

Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:

*hello guys,

i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and
gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run
startx
command, it has the following error:

failed to load module fbdev

when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
occurred:
loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
object

i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i
change
the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.

anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
*
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What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed.

Stephan
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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Göran Löwkrantz
Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. 
That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it 
still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared 
when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty.


/glz

--On September 18, 2012 9:55:51 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote:


Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:


...
Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI
bus  driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. ...


DEVICE.HINTS(5)

The format is:
hint.driver.unit.keyword=value
The keyword may be:
...
disabled  can be set to 1 to disable the device.
   ^
Note the wording ^ here.

jb


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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread jb
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:

 
 Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. 
 That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it 
 still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared 
 when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty.

Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and
I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only):

devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5)
See examples:
$ cat /etc/devd.conf 
...
# An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here
# as an example of how to override things.  Normally 'ed50' would match
# the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it
# hard wired to 1.2.3.4.
attach 100 {
  device-name ed50;
  action ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0x;
};
detach 100 {
  device-name ed50;
};
...

So, just thinking loudly:
  attach 100 {
device-name em0;
action ??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???;
  };
etc.
   
jb


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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Michael Sierchio
We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)

- M

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Stas Verberkt lego...@legolasweb.nl wrote:
 Warren Block schreef op :

 The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
 history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
 used by the svn checkout.

 Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
 all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
 like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
 copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
 copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.

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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Göran Löwkrantz

Well, I already tested this in rc.conf:

ifconfig_em0=down

and it didn't help.

There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless 
someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck.


/glz

--On September 18, 2012 11:49:17 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote:


Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:



Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at
all.  That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity.
And it  still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still
disappeared  when the probing started. The serial port worked up until
beasty.


Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and
I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only):

devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5)
See examples:
$ cat /etc/devd.conf
...
# An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here
# as an example of how to override things.  Normally 'ed50' would match
# the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it
# hard wired to 1.2.3.4.
attach 100 {
  device-name ed50;
  action ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0x;
};
detach 100 {
  device-name ed50;
};
...

So, just thinking loudly:
  attach 100 {
device-name em0;
action ??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???;
  };
etc.

jb


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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700
Michael Sierchio articulated:

 We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
 disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
 bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
 I know of will have moved from subversion to git.

If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense to
do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too
many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking the
bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be
hearing from the baby steps choir now. In any event, a comprehensive
side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial party.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:00:08 -0500, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com  
wrote:



We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
I know of will have moved from subversion to git.


Git is available in a hush-hush unsupported fashion for ports and source.  
I'll warn you: it will take you forever to pull it.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Stas Verberkt

Jerry schreef op :

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700
Michael Sierchio articulated:


We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious 
project

I know of will have moved from subversion to git.


If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense 
to

do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too
many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking 
the

bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be
hearing from the baby steps choir now. In any event, a 
comprehensive
side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial 
party.


We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two 
different
workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, and 
the
former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not 
really
have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more 
about

the production cycle you want to have.
If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) 
be in
control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested 
changesets
by the community of developers. This community would be more free in 
the

manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong
differentiation between committers and other people suggesting 
updates. On
the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of 
committers
and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the 
schedule

and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely simplified.)
It is a matter of taste.

On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a 
complete
repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite 
heavy-weight.


Stas

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Arthur Chance

On 09/18/12 13:00, Michael Sierchio wrote:

We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)


It's worth reading this

http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitDrawbacks

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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread jb
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:

 ... 
 There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless 
 someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck.

You may consider updating BIOS as well if needed:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/ich9/x7spa.cfm?typ=hipmi=y

jb


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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Stas Verberkt wrote:


Warren Block schreef op :

The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
used by the svn checkout.


Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.


You're right.  'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history from the 
repository.  So it's not as bad as it could be... but that 700M number 
was from a ports tree checkout.  My source checkout shows 869M in .svn. 
That's a pretty large chunk of bandwidth for data that is useless to 
someone who just wants to do a buildworld, as opposed to actually 
working on the source.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, pete wright wrote:


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:


csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. svn
export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them
every time, not just the changes.



yea i agree with you.  i wonder if it would be worth the effort of
sharing a svn export via rsync or httpd to make fetching delta's
easier and/or more efficient from a base install?


It's an interesting idea.  If the repository files were directly 
accessible in a filesystem, that filesystem could be shared with rsyncd 
and some exclude settings without needing an export at all.  With svn 
bdb, the files are not directly accessible, but I don't know for fsfs. 
Probably not, so a periodic export would still be required.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:44:46 +0200
Stas Verberkt articulated:

 We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two 
 different
 workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle,
 and the
 former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not 
 really
 have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more 
 about
 the production cycle you want to have.
 If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) 
 be in
 control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested 
 changesets
 by the community of developers. This community would be more free in 
 the
 manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong
 differentiation between committers and other people suggesting 
 updates. On
 the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of 
 committers
 and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the 
 schedule
 and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely
 simplified.) It is a matter of taste.
 
 On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a 
 complete
 repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite 
 heavy-weight.

I found the information at this URL
http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitConversion quite interesting, especially
the numbers under the Speed Comparisons heading at the end.

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installation of yuma

2012-09-18 Thread ahmed elouadrhiri
Hi all;

i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1

and it give me :
 Makefile, line 14: Need an operator
Makefile, line 16: Need an operator
Makefile, line 21: Need an operator
Makefile, line 23: Need an operator
Makefile, line 43: Need an operator
Makefile, line 50: Need an operator
Makefile, line 51: Need an operator
Makefile, line 57: Need an operator
Makefile, line 63: Need an operator
Makefile, line 64: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

can any one help me please,Thank you.

Best regards
Ahmed el ouadrhiri
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Re: installation of yuma

2012-09-18 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:03 +
ahmed elouadrhiri ahmedelouadrh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all;
 
 i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1
 
 and it give me :
  Makefile, line 14: Need an operator

At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first
from the ports).

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Robert Huff

Warren Block writes:

  You're right.  'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history
  from the repository.  So it's not as bad as it could be... but
  that 700M number was from a ports tree checkout.  My source
  checkout shows 869M in .svn.  That's a pretty large chunk of
  bandwidth for data that is useless to someone who just wants to
  do a buildworld, as opposed to actually working on the source.

Having no idea about what's inside the black box ... it would
be nice to be able to specify a default level of commit retireval
with overrides on a per-subtree basis.


Robert Huff

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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread jb
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:

 
 We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
 shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
 the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
 see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
 from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.
 ...

I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from
Google-found thread:
... go to ipmi panel and choose share for Lan Interface ...).

Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please 
consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint disabling em0
and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be looked at by devs,
I guess - after all, they should be two independent net ports, as they have
two distinct MACs.
I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI.
 
jb


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Re: exclude device from bus probe?

2012-09-18 Thread Göran Löwkrantz
No, that does not work. On a different host, that has an dedicated IPMI 
NIC, I have a dropdown with the alternatives Dedicated, Share and Failover 
but on this I only have a grayed out Share, no alternatives and no choices. 
So this seems to be something hardwired in the MB.


I will do a PR on the hit stuff.


/glz

--On September 18, 2012 14:55:48 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote:


Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes:



We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a
shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS
but  the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad
FBSD don't  see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that
disables the NIC  from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI
also.
...


I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from
Google-found thread:
... go to ipmi panel and choose share for Lan Interface ...).

Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please
consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint
disabling em0 and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be
looked at by devs, I guess - after all, they should be two independent
net ports, as they have two distinct MACs.
I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI.

jb


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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Stas == Stas Verberkt lego...@legolasweb.nl writes:

Stas On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a 
complete
Stas repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite
Stas heavy-weight.

The entire history of the Linux kernel since switching to git 5 years
ago is stored in a repo that is *less than half the size* of a single
current checkout.

The entire history of the XFree86 project ended up being a repo that was
only 2-3 times the size of the current checkout.

Seriously, don't be afraid of git simply because it has all the
history.  SVN is already worse because it has a single local backup
copy for every live file, 2x right there.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-18 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 18-09-2012 14:00, Michael Sierchio wrote:
 We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
 disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
 bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
 I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)

I have both a git and svn checkout of FreeBSD current and while git
contains the full history it takes up less disk space (about 30%):

540M.git
759M.svn



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Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone

FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
apache22

Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are 
plenty here who know how to do this.


On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a 
new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers 
still linking to the old location.


If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
how would we redirect to www.newplace.html

Appreciate advice

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Re: Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone

On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:

FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
apache22

Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are 
plenty here who know how to do this.


On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into 
a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 
referrers still linking to the old location.


If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
how would we redirect to www.newplace.html

Appreciate advice

I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about a 
dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and 
redirect to the new www.newplace.html


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Re: Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500
Jack Stone ja...@sage-american.com wrote:

 On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:
  FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
  apache22
 
  Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there
  are plenty here who know how to do this.
 
  On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into 
  a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 
  referrers still linking to the old location.
 
  If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
  how would we redirect to www.newplace.html
 
  Appreciate advice
 
 I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about
 a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and 
 redirect to the new www.newplace.html

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301

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Re: Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone

On 9/18/2012 1:35 PM, Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu wrote:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500
Jack Stone ja...@sage-american.com wrote:


On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:

FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
apache22

Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there
are plenty here who know how to do this.

On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into
a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100
referrers still linking to the old location.

If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
how would we redirect to www.newplace.html

Appreciate advice


I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about
a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and
redirect to the new www.newplace.html

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301

Thanks for the help but I figured it out and doesn't even notify a 301 
that place has been moved which I like. Slick!!


Here's examples of dirs and pages using rewrite in the .htaccess file:

RewriteEngine on
# dirs
RewriteRule ^a10 lbc_signup.html [PT]

# pages
RewriteRule ^abook.html lbc_signup.html [PT]


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Re: schg flags from installworld

2012-09-18 Thread Gareth de Vaux
On Tue 2012-09-18 (11:30), Gareth de Vaux wrote:
 The host system doesn't have these flags.

I was mistaken, they do.

Looking at /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk and /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk -
bins and libs get installed with schg if PRECIOUSPROG and PRECIOUSLIB are
set respectively in their makefiles, both of which can be overridden by
setting NO_FSCHG, presumably in /etc/make.conf.

Without this doing jail maintenance/upgrades is a nightmare on a host with
a securelevel of 1 but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere.
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Re: have desktop on freebsd

2012-09-18 Thread saeedeh motlagh
thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and
displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have
desktop yet.
you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too.

please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my
problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore.

thanks

On 9/18/12, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote:
 2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
 my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
 could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
 fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
 think i should do something else to change my driver.
 please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
 thanks


 Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again.




 On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote:
 Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:
 *hello guys,

 i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11
 and
 gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run
 startx
 command, it has the following error:

 failed to load module fbdev

 when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
 occurred:
 loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
 object

 i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i
 change
 the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.

 anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
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 installed.

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Problem with bsnmp

2012-09-18 Thread Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez

Hi:

Does bsnmp use mib files or I should translate to def files

Also, I detect that bsnmpwalk return 0 when a timeout conecction ocurred

I am using PC-BSD
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