Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
Warren Block schreef op : The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the svn checkout. Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 12:39:43 +0430 ] yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. Ok, that shows your graphics card will support Xorg. What options did you select when you built X server from ports? Also, after you've installed Xorg you need to install a window manager or desktop like KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, ... Then you need to create the file .xinitrc in your home directory; it should contain something like this: exec spectrwm Spectrwm is the Window Manager I use, so xinit uses the exec command to start the window manager, in my case spectrwm. Have you done that yet? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
exclude device from bus probe?
We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also. Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet Any other suggestions appreciated. /glz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
Hi, Did you then copy the xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? You'll need to do that for it to be used by default. On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:43 +0430 saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i used Xorg -configure and after that Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i don't have desktop. i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred. i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need desktop on my BSD box. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 9:40:16 +0430 ] thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed again and changes are applied but error is as the same before: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do you know how i can fiix it?? I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo? Did you use the command: Xorg -configure ? from the command prompt as the root user first? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also. Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet Any other suggestions appreciated. You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
No, that won't work. This is the NIC we have traffic over: em1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet So to be exact, I need em0 to not be probed while em1 is probed and attached. /glz --On September 18, 2012 10:04:21 +0100 Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also. Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet Any other suggestions appreciated. You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks dude, yes Steve i copied it. thanks Jamie, ok i'll try it and inform you results. On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: ... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
schg flags from installworld
Hi all, I built a jail for the first time but realised I needed to redo the buildworld. 'make installworld DESTDIR=/usr/jail/ns2' then failed with: install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libc.a /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg -S libc.so.7 /usr/jail/ns2/lib install: rename: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/INS@G4LP to /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted *** Error code 71 # ls -lo /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel schg 1157460 Sep 17 19:40 /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7 Which I can't change in the current secure level. It seems that the original installworld set this with the 'install -fschg' flag? Why? The host system doesn't have these flags. These files are also affected: # chflags -R noschg /usr/jail/ns2 chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/sbin/init: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chfn: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chsh: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchpass: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchfn: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchsh: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/yppasswd: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rlogin: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rsh: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not permitted chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/var/empty: Operation not permitted # uname -a FreeBSD XXX 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Wed Sep 12 22:15:43 SAST 2012 root@XXX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # cat /etc/make.conf WITHOUT_X11=yes X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} CFLAGS=-O -pipe # added by use.perl 2012-09-13 20:25:18 PERL_VERSION=5.16.0 # cat /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_PROFILE=TRUE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: ... Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. ... DEVICE.HINTS(5) The format is: hint.driver.unit.keyword=value The keyword may be: ... disabled can be set to 1 to disable the device. ^ Note the wording ^ here. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev: my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again. On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote: Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty. /glz --On September 18, 2012 9:55:51 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: ... Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. ... DEVICE.HINTS(5) The format is: hint.driver.unit.keyword=value The keyword may be: ... disabled can be set to 1 to disable the device. ^ Note the wording ^ here. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty. Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only): devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5) See examples: $ cat /etc/devd.conf ... # An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here # as an example of how to override things. Normally 'ed50' would match # the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it # hard wired to 1.2.3.4. attach 100 { device-name ed50; action ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0x; }; detach 100 { device-name ed50; }; ... So, just thinking loudly: attach 100 { device-name em0; action ??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???; }; etc. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-) - M On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Stas Verberkt lego...@legolasweb.nl wrote: Warren Block schreef op : The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the svn checkout. Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Well, I already tested this in rc.conf: ifconfig_em0=down and it didn't help. There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck. /glz --On September 18, 2012 11:49:17 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty. Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only): devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5) See examples: $ cat /etc/devd.conf ... # An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here # as an example of how to override things. Normally 'ed50' would match # the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it # hard wired to 1.2.3.4. attach 100 { device-name ed50; action ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0x; }; detach 100 { device-name ed50; }; ... So, just thinking loudly: attach 100 { device-name em0; action ??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???; }; etc. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700 Michael Sierchio articulated: We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense to do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking the bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be hearing from the baby steps choir now. In any event, a comprehensive side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial party. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:00:08 -0500, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. Git is available in a hush-hush unsupported fashion for ports and source. I'll warn you: it will take you forever to pull it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
Jerry schreef op : On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700 Michael Sierchio articulated: We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense to do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking the bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be hearing from the baby steps choir now. In any event, a comprehensive side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial party. We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two different workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, and the former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not really have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more about the production cycle you want to have. If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) be in control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested changesets by the community of developers. This community would be more free in the manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong differentiation between committers and other people suggesting updates. On the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of committers and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the schedule and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely simplified.) It is a matter of taste. On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a complete repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite heavy-weight. Stas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On 09/18/12 13:00, Michael Sierchio wrote: We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-) It's worth reading this http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitDrawbacks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: ... There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck. You may consider updating BIOS as well if needed: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/ich9/x7spa.cfm?typ=hipmi=y jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Stas Verberkt wrote: Warren Block schreef op : The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the svn checkout. Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure. You're right. 'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history from the repository. So it's not as bad as it could be... but that 700M number was from a ports tree checkout. My source checkout shows 869M in .svn. That's a pretty large chunk of bandwidth for data that is useless to someone who just wants to do a buildworld, as opposed to actually working on the source. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, pete wright wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. svn export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them every time, not just the changes. yea i agree with you. i wonder if it would be worth the effort of sharing a svn export via rsync or httpd to make fetching delta's easier and/or more efficient from a base install? It's an interesting idea. If the repository files were directly accessible in a filesystem, that filesystem could be shared with rsyncd and some exclude settings without needing an export at all. With svn bdb, the files are not directly accessible, but I don't know for fsfs. Probably not, so a periodic export would still be required. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:44:46 +0200 Stas Verberkt articulated: We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two different workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, and the former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not really have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more about the production cycle you want to have. If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) be in control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested changesets by the community of developers. This community would be more free in the manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong differentiation between committers and other people suggesting updates. On the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of committers and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the schedule and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely simplified.) It is a matter of taste. On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a complete repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite heavy-weight. I found the information at this URL http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitConversion quite interesting, especially the numbers under the Speed Comparisons heading at the end. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installation of yuma
Hi all; i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1 and it give me : Makefile, line 14: Need an operator Makefile, line 16: Need an operator Makefile, line 21: Need an operator Makefile, line 23: Need an operator Makefile, line 43: Need an operator Makefile, line 50: Need an operator Makefile, line 51: Need an operator Makefile, line 57: Need an operator Makefile, line 63: Need an operator Makefile, line 64: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue can any one help me please,Thank you. Best regards Ahmed el ouadrhiri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation of yuma
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:03 + ahmed elouadrhiri ahmedelouadrh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all; i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1 and it give me : Makefile, line 14: Need an operator At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first from the ports). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
Warren Block writes: You're right. 'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history from the repository. So it's not as bad as it could be... but that 700M number was from a ports tree checkout. My source checkout shows 869M in .svn. That's a pretty large chunk of bandwidth for data that is useless to someone who just wants to do a buildworld, as opposed to actually working on the source. Having no idea about what's inside the black box ... it would be nice to be able to specify a default level of commit retireval with overrides on a per-subtree basis. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also. ... I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from Google-found thread: ... go to ipmi panel and choose share for Lan Interface ...). Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint disabling em0 and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be looked at by devs, I guess - after all, they should be two independent net ports, as they have two distinct MACs. I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
No, that does not work. On a different host, that has an dedicated IPMI NIC, I have a dropdown with the alternatives Dedicated, Share and Failover but on this I only have a grayed out Share, no alternatives and no choices. So this seems to be something hardwired in the MB. I will do a PR on the hit stuff. /glz --On September 18, 2012 14:55:48 + jb jb1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also. ... I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from Google-found thread: ... go to ipmi panel and choose share for Lan Interface ...). Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint disabling em0 and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be looked at by devs, I guess - after all, they should be two independent net ports, as they have two distinct MACs. I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: What replaces csup?
Stas == Stas Verberkt lego...@legolasweb.nl writes: Stas On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a complete Stas repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite Stas heavy-weight. The entire history of the Linux kernel since switching to git 5 years ago is stored in a repo that is *less than half the size* of a single current checkout. The entire history of the XFree86 project ended up being a repo that was only 2-3 times the size of the current checkout. Seriously, don't be afraid of git simply because it has all the history. SVN is already worse because it has a single local backup copy for every live file, 2x right there. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
On 18-09-2012 14:00, Michael Sierchio wrote: We are really behind the curve here. Git assumes (correctly) that disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network bandwidth. By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-) I have both a git and svn checkout of FreeBSD current and while git contains the full history it takes up less disk space (about 30%): 540M.git 759M.svn signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Simple redirect
FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers still linking to the old location. If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/ how would we redirect to www.newplace.html Appreciate advice -- -- All the best, Jack ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Simple redirect
On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote: FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers still linking to the old location. If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/ how would we redirect to www.newplace.html Appreciate advice I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and redirect to the new www.newplace.html -- -- All the best, Jack ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Simple redirect
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500 Jack Stone ja...@sage-american.com wrote: On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote: FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers still linking to the old location. If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/ how would we redirect to www.newplace.html Appreciate advice I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and redirect to the new www.newplace.html http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301 -- Theo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Simple redirect
On 9/18/2012 1:35 PM, Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500 Jack Stone ja...@sage-american.com wrote: On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote: FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers still linking to the old location. If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/ how would we redirect to www.newplace.html Appreciate advice I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and redirect to the new www.newplace.html http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301 Thanks for the help but I figured it out and doesn't even notify a 301 that place has been moved which I like. Slick!! Here's examples of dirs and pages using rewrite in the .htaccess file: RewriteEngine on # dirs RewriteRule ^a10 lbc_signup.html [PT] # pages RewriteRule ^abook.html lbc_signup.html [PT] -- -- All the best, Jack ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: schg flags from installworld
On Tue 2012-09-18 (11:30), Gareth de Vaux wrote: The host system doesn't have these flags. I was mistaken, they do. Looking at /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk and /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk - bins and libs get installed with schg if PRECIOUSPROG and PRECIOUSLIB are set respectively in their makefiles, both of which can be overridden by setting NO_FSCHG, presumably in /etc/make.conf. Without this doing jail maintenance/upgrades is a nightmare on a host with a securelevel of 1 but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: have desktop on freebsd
thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have desktop yet. you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too. please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore. thanks On 9/18/12, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev: my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel? could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i think i should do something else to change my driver. please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it. thanks Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again. On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel s...@tp1.rub.de wrote: Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh: *hello guys, i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx command, it has the following error: failed to load module fbdev when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error occurred: loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again. anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box? * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed. Stephan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem with bsnmp
Hi: Does bsnmp use mib files or I should translate to def files Also, I detect that bsnmpwalk return 0 when a timeout conecction ocurred I am using PC-BSD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org