Re: Spam and more spam.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote: Bonjour, Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich ___ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol aloha al! I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but it is. gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote: Bonjour, Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich ___ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol aloha al! I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but it is. I took a look at one of the spam mails. The header looks like this: Return-Path: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9AKN55i005588 for erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:23:06 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BA203799; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:52 + (UTC) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0E2D06; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:44 + (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F6C67 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:32 + (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+freebsd-stable=freebsd@to.benaughty.com) Received: from me20.to.frindr.net (me20.to.frindr.net [70.33.212.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88788FC08 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:31 + (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by me20.to.frindr.net (Postfix) with QMQP id 4E1E7301038 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:23 + (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=benaughty.com; s=to; t=1349898743; bh=v8GVq7lXQBvGUXBVXF9xdjLIwxk=; h=MIME-Version:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:From:Reply-To:Subject: Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:To; b=Peb/n29Jvys2WqT4eslGuADZLrXVVj31xJRRUW/yHQVeNst8vwe8jR1/HR+yaEfca FtOdaor2xY2Q55emnfQWJQDwfhLJm9//ilbufZCm0oRqeOiX7688rdNXVJB/mDQxET BZ0sLGBVlnpZ+ZM1zDuaX85XynxsmU7hucJMWlug= MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Frindr Ltd X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Frindr X-Campaign-Id: 084693 X-Dating: 3b87203fdf6ba6b75457570b493fbc6fZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= From: BeNaughty ad...@benaughty.com Subject: Get your 25% premium discount for FREE to contact 1.3 million girls! Message-ID: 084693.mbp0iy.b9g...@benaughty.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:52:10 +0100 To: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: BeNaughty ad...@benaughty.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code freebsd-stable.freebsd.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-stable, mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable List-Post: mailto:freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org List-Help: mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable, mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 09H!!C*!!J26!!~f,#! while yours looks like this: Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9B67nvS032260 for erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:07:49 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org
logging debug of hw.usb.debug=1 with syslog
Hi, i need to debug USB device and i want to log all the messages via syslog, but i do not know how to do that i looked at syslog.conf, but could find the flag i should use for debug.log. i used sysctl hw.usb.debug=1 lots of things i get printed out, but how to log them permanently ? Many Thanks, Karolis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-texlive port
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:32:43 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: I imagine it would be a lot of work to integrate it into the ports system not to mention it would take an age to compile it. There has been a lot of work done by developers to provide binaries for FreeBSD with the main texlive distribution so it's not necessary to integrate into the ports system. What would be nice is if certain ports that require a tex distribution can be used with the texlive distribution that available from tug.org already. Projects like Macports have been able to do this, if this became possible for FreeBSD ports then it would be great. While I see clear advantages in TeXlive being a self-integrated distribution of software, it doesn't really fit the idea of the ports collection, which is a means to _centrally_ compile, install (or fetch from precompiled packages from a trusted source), patch, update or remove software by using system tools (the pkg_* commands) or additional utilities (like portmaster, portupgrade etc.). Having all the software bring their own distribution system, web-based obtaining and their own micro-updating mechanism (inside the software itself) looks a bit outdated. Allow me to share my inspiration: What I primarily like about the ports infrastructure is the fact that it combines several tasks done to (or with) software by a standardized interface, not distributing those tasks across the software itself. I can use pkg_add, portmaster, make install, even all of them, and I don't even have to launch a web browser to search for or manually download software. I also do not have to deal with micro-management systems which is different from port to port. All ports talk the same language, e. g. make deinstall does deinstall the port, no matter _which_ port I choose. I would really like to see TeXlive being available maybe as a precompiled package (for use with pkg_add) so it can easily be installed without actually fetching it from a non-system source. Dependencies requesting a TeX package should honor either _which_ TeX is already installed (teTeX or TeXlive) or look at a configuration setting, for example WITH_TEX= in /etc/make.conf, as I suggested. That could deliver a relatively easy integration. Not relying on 3rd party sources is a great advantage. If you use Java, you know what I'm refering to. Go to the web and download it to distfiles/, then resume the build... :-) For building TeXlive: Some people intendedly _want_ to build the stuff they use from source. Others are fine if make install fetches some binaries somewhere and installs them (for example this is what make install means for the Opera web browser in the first place). Such a binary distribution would be easy to implement, even though it might be quite huge (but that could be changed by stripping all non-FreeBSD parts from TeXlive). Still I see the problem of TeXlive's own package management system. Integrating _that_ with subports (or havving TeXlive as a metaport) doesn't look easy. As I don't need any feature of TeXlive, I'm _currently_ still using teTeX because it does everything I need. But I agree that TeXlive will be regarded _the_ TeX distribution in the future, leaving teTeX in the past... -- Polytropon The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many years now, he has a port to texlive: https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so that the tetex binaries do not get called on. I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. My $0.02 Regards, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-texlive port
[ Antonio Olivares wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 6:39:00 -0500 ] The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many years now, he has a port to texlive: https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so that the tetex binaries do not get called on. I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. Yes I agree. As well as Romain, Nikola Lecic has done a great deal of work with getting texlive made available for FreeBSD - I'm sure there are others as well. I recall a couple of years ago, tug.org completely removed support for FreeBSD which prompted, I believe, the projects that Romain and Nikola started. Thanks to Nikola, who I *think* is still involved with the texlive project and namely support for FreeBSD, this problem no longer exists and the texlive distribution now supports FreeBSD. KerTeX is something I've yet to try, but I'm extremely interested in what it has to offer. It's innovative and a remarkable amount of work and certainly worth using for those using TeX regularly. NetBSD, or rather pkgsrc, and Linux software packaging systems as I'm sure you know have broken it down into portions of the distribution which is a sensible approach as modest users of TeX will most likely use only a small percentage of the software that comes with texlive. Perhaps a similar approach could be implemented into the FreeBSD ports system. I do think moving away from tetex for good is needed now. With all the changes to FreeBSD going on, ports relying on a dead project like tetex seems wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Adding boot options to the loader menu
Hi All, If you have any interest, I have posted a blog about adding boot options to the loader menu... http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/11/so-you-want-a-new-freebsd-boot-loader-option/ -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-texlive port
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote: [ Antonio Olivares wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 6:39:00 -0500 ] The efforts by Romain Tartiere should not go unnoticed. For many years now, he has a port to texlive: https://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ It works with the FreeBSD tools that you mention and it updates the packages using the FreeBSD infrastructure. It happens that many people install texlive through the dvd and make several changes so that the tetex binaries do not get called on. I have the freebsd-texlive port installed and it works beautifully. I can typeset books which require it. I also use KerTeX, http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html which is smaller and also works great in its own right. What is kerTeX: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42234/what-is-kertex For many users kerTeX would do the job for many texing/latexing needs. However for bigger jobs, i.e, bigger books with many style files, bigger macros then texlive is needed. TeTeX does work well for many things, but it is *NOT MAINTAINED, NOT UPDATED* despite the efforts of some people and packages like tikz don't work well *unless you can patch things up in the tex structure to make them work*. Yes I agree. As well as Romain, Nikola Lecic has done a great deal of work with getting texlive made available for FreeBSD - I'm sure there are others as well. I recall a couple of years ago, tug.org completely removed support for FreeBSD which prompted, I believe, the projects that Romain and Nikola started. Thanks to Nikola, who I *think* is still involved with the texlive project and namely support for FreeBSD, this problem no longer exists and the texlive distribution now supports FreeBSD. KerTeX is something I've yet to try, but I'm extremely interested in what it has to offer. It's innovative and a remarkable amount of work and certainly worth using for those using TeX regularly. NetBSD, or rather pkgsrc, and Linux software packaging systems as I'm sure you know have broken it down into portions of the distribution which is a sensible approach as modest users of TeX will most likely use only a small percentage of the software that comes with texlive. Perhaps a similar approach could be implemented into the FreeBSD ports system. I do think moving away from tetex for good is needed now. With all the changes to FreeBSD going on, ports relying on a dead project like tetex seems wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If I am not mistaken one of the reasons that FreeBSD has not moved to texlive is because of the documentation. The documentation project makes calls to generate handbook and change between different versions sgml, to tex and then use pdflatex which is/was part of teteX. Texlive has it also, but the job from within the FreeBSD developers has not made changes to this. KerTeX does not have pdftex or pdflatex which TeTeX still does carry so moving to it would also mean many changes. Some people complain that Texlive port/ports are too big and that teTeX was reasonable and event though a texlive-tetex port exists, but I guess not to many developers are fond of texlive. If you or anyone else is interested in kerTeX, I have a script that automates the installation and most or if not all of the supplemantary packages, i.e, addons that are available. I have it on several of my machines and I am happy to use it. [olivares@grullahighschool ~]$ which_kertex # WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! # # 1) The path separator is now, everywhere, semicolon ';' and not # colon ':'. # 2) The pkg stuff is now in /usr/local/share/kertex/pkg/. Run instead of pkg_core: # /bin/sh /usr/local/share/kertex/pkg/kertex.sh install # KERTEX_VERSION=0..6.2 KERTEX_HOST=freebsd-amd64-8.3-RELEASE-p3 KERTEX_SHELL=/bin/sh KERTEX_BINDIR=/usr/local/bin/kertex KERTEX_LIBDIR=/usr/local/share/kertex KERTEX_MANDIR=/usr/local/share/kertex/man KERTEX_USER0=root KERTEX_GROUP0=wheel Best Regards, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gmirror degraded
Just looking for some advice, I had a server lock up that uses gmirror for two RAID-1 arrays of the primary drive and a data drive. The data drive was reported as degraded after a reset of the server, but is rebuilding. It is comprised of two TB drives with one reporting ACTIVE with no flags. The other synchronizing and taking days... Geom name: d1 State: DEGRADED Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 2434624761 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/d1 Mediasize: 999653637632 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r2w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ada1p1 Mediasize: 999653638144 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 175176036 2. Name: ada3p1 Mediasize: 999653638144 (931G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 State: SYNCHRONIZING Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY, SYNCHRONIZING GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 Synchronized: 91% ID: 4158324973 I ran the smartctl command below on the synchronizing drive and it seems there are no errors? Should I trust this drive? backup# /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada3 smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Device Model: ST31000528AS Serial Number:9VP8EKVV LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 026d2b322 Firmware Version: CC3E User Capacity:1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4 Local Time is:Thu Oct 11 10:36:54 2012 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection:( 600) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:( 175) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time:( 2) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 113 097 006Pre-fail Always - 108410580 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003 095 095 000Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 100 100 020Old_age Always - 34 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 076 076 036Pre-fail Always - 1003 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 074 060 030Pre-fail Always - 25881764 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 079 079 000Old_age Always - 18567 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013 100 100 097Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020Old_age Always - 17 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0
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PSsst: Ready for an upgrade?
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Re: gmirror degraded
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: Just looking for some advice, I had a server lock up that uses gmirror for two RAID-1 arrays of the primary drive and a data drive. The data drive was reported as degraded after a reset of the server, but is rebuilding. It is comprised of two TB drives with one reporting ACTIVE with no flags. The other synchronizing and taking days... You mean it does this repeatedly? I ran the smartctl command below on the synchronizing drive and it seems there are no errors? Should I trust this drive? 1,003 reallocated sectors is a bad sign. I would replace that drive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE
Hi everyone, I am including as much information in here as I think will be useful. Since I can do snapshots on VMWare, I am happy to try any solution or diagnostics. Steps I took to upgrade FreeBSD: Using freebsd-update, I upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE-p8 Then, to upgrade to 9.0-RELEASE, I ran the following commands, using http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html as my guide: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install portupgrade -f ruby rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db portupgrade -af freebsd-update install reboot I noticed that lots of things weren't working, and specifically that I was getting lots of complaints about /libexec/ld-elf.so.1. I also noticed that when I ran freebsd-update IDS, it seemed to report that every single file had the wrong signature. So, this being a VMWare guest, I reluctantly reverted to a previous snapshot, putting me back at 7.2-RELEASE-p8. I decided to try this time to go from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE to 8.3-RELEASE. I only got to 7.4-RELEASE before I had the same issues as above. As a specific example of errors I would get, I try to run sudo and I get: [stuart@richelieu ~]$ sudo bash /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sudo: invalid PT_PHDR This seems to be the most relevant thread to the problem I'm having: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html However, I'd be more comfortable using an official upgrade path, like freebsd-update, exclusively. That thread involves replacing a file from a FreeBSD liveCD. Also, with freebsd-update IDS reporting so many files with incorrect signatures, I feel like my problem is bigger than fixing one file. Right now I am back on 7.2-RELEASE-p8 eager to get my OS upgraded to something that is under current support by the security team. Optimally I'd like to be on 8.3 after looking at the EOL dates. Also, I did see one other post _somewhere_ mentioning a similar problem, also on a VMWare guest. So I am suspicious that the problem might be related to VMWare. Thanks, everyone. - Stuart Matthews ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, hello erich and everyone, im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- Latin characters. --cont below-- On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote: Bonjour, Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa date de sortie http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list. I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam. Erich ___ Aloha Erich, I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now. In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English. Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol aloha al! I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent weeks. Ugh!! dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but it is. I took a look at one of the spam mails. The header looks like this: Return-Path: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q9AKN55i005588 for erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:23:06 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BA203799; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:52 + (UTC) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0E2D06; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:44 + (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F6C67 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:32 + (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+freebsd-stable=freebsd@to.benaughty.com) Received: from me20.to.frindr.net (me20.to.frindr.net [70.33.212.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88788FC08 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:31 + (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by me20.to.frindr.net (Postfix) with QMQP id 4E1E7301038 for freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:52:23 + (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=benaughty.com; s=to; t=1349898743; bh=v8GVq7lXQBvGUXBVXF9xdjLIwxk=; h=MIME-Version:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:From:Reply-To:Subject: Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:To; b=Peb/n29Jvys2WqT4eslGuADZLrXVVj31xJRRUW/yHQVeNst8vwe8jR1/HR+yaEfca FtOdaor2xY2Q55emnfQWJQDwfhLJm9//ilbufZCm0oRqeOiX7688rdNXVJB/mDQxET BZ0sLGBVlnpZ+ZM1zDuaX85XynxsmU7hucJMWlug= MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Frindr Ltd X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Frindr X-Campaign-Id: 084693 X-Dating: 3b87203fdf6ba6b75457570b493fbc6fZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= From: BeNaughty ad...@benaughty.com Subject: Get your 25% premium discount for FREE to contact 1.3 million girls! Message-ID: 084693.mbp0iy.b9g...@benaughty.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:52:10 +0100 To: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: BeNaughty ad...@benaughty.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code freebsd-stable.freebsd.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-stable, mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable List-Post:
Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/12 2:43 PM, Stuart Matthews wrote: Hi everyone, I am including as much information in here as I think will be useful. Since I can do snapshots on VMWare, I am happy to try any solution or diagnostics. Steps I took to upgrade FreeBSD: Using freebsd-update, I upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE to 7.2-RELEASE-p8 Then, to upgrade to 9.0-RELEASE, I ran the following commands, using http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html as my guide: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install portupgrade -f ruby rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db portupgrade -af freebsd-update install reboot I noticed that lots of things weren't working, and specifically that I was getting lots of complaints about /libexec/ld-elf.so.1. I also noticed that when I ran freebsd-update IDS, it seemed to report that every single file had the wrong signature. So, this being a VMWare guest, I reluctantly reverted to a previous snapshot, putting me back at 7.2-RELEASE-p8. I decided to try this time to go from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE to 8.3-RELEASE. I only got to 7.4-RELEASE before I had the same issues as above. As a specific example of errors I would get, I try to run sudo and I get: [stuart@richelieu ~]$ sudo bash /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sudo: invalid PT_PHDR This seems to be the most relevant thread to the problem I'm having: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218443.html However, I'd be more comfortable using an official upgrade path, like freebsd-update, exclusively. That thread involves replacing a file from a FreeBSD liveCD. Also, with freebsd-update IDS reporting so many files with incorrect signatures, I feel like my problem is bigger than fixing one file. Right now I am back on 7.2-RELEASE-p8 eager to get my OS upgraded to something that is under current support by the security team. Optimally I'd like to be on 8.3 after looking at the EOL dates. Also, I did see one other post _somewhere_ mentioning a similar proble also on a VMWare guest. So I am suspicious that the problem might be related to VMWare. Thanks, everyone. - Stuart Matthews Hi Stuart, If you click the link in this mailing list article (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the system is not completely updated. This message (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the binary manually. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlB3aQ8ACgkQ0sRouByUApAj2QCgjZZKHLHa04PM3qhtKfwuzJpq D0MAn3uolwsr/ukwGSxLXK42410IfMt8 =JiOa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spam and more spam.
Hi Gary, On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, hello erich and everyone, im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would not be able to sleep then either. so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- Latin characters. Let me see what you got. for my appending the spam that I got from wherever. it might have been sent from Anywhere. It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of FreeBSD have been between. From uhrda...@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012 Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199] by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22) for kline@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 - Received: from unknown (HELO p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180]) (envelope-sender uhrda-15+bncbdnzzghsyenbboh73gbqkgqe66yi...@googlegroups.com) by p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for kl...@thought.org; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 - X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id x4sf1055803obh.21 for kl...@thought.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jMFZmAQdT+pN7T6QKNSP2XkXpR1aCJ1+Wwtbzb2StxM=; b=jPb2itO+q4lJZ9J8x8DIaPCegwCUkLJvIshfIA680YoMkZXW75RlpD+gCRtmmdsU7g A6qeq75zQpbzkMHzwCXyQjNCxXFN/J2Ldi5AChZgi21i0BCELW7gOpBxcsdcpwr6qlGy rVjws1Cnyzx/sZ6nX7J+Y1escXN7oPTWVQL6aqqqgkGXpW8ce6vJLE/lAEke8Jsdx2QW hZ+klU5MPA700mA+ZE+0qYGHSv2D9DolX3+ilivKy9QiMHYFpyt+/njC533tyTtRISxu j3QpnxjbSv+MYMy7bg4RPFtnZQY7wYvK0NWXQymo5VLtjvxu0QXDJPghZDEsrMtgVnOE o5jw== Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr7790vdg.10.1349943226444; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls1027454vcu.8.gmail; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr6251vdv.17.1349943224082; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: hamdy ahmed uhrda1...@gmail.com To: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Message-Id: 29039954-caad-40fe-a3be-d06d79027...@googlegroups.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?2YjYsdi02Kkg2LnZhdmEIDogKNiq2YbZhdmK2Kkg2Ygg?= =?UTF-8?B?2KrYt9mI2YrYsSDYp9mE2YXZh9in2LHYp9iqINin2YTYpdiv2Kc=?= =?UTF-8?B?2LHZitipKdin2LPYt9mG2KjZiNmEIOKAkyDYqtix2YPZitinIA==?= =?UTF-8?B?IDIyIOKAkyAzMSDYr9mK2LPZhdio2LEyMDEy2YU=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: uhrda1...@gmail.com Reply-To: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list uhrda...@googlegroups.com; contact uhrda-15+own...@googlegroups.com List-ID: uhrda-15.googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 474025889798 List-Post: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/post?hl=ar_US, mailto:uhrda...@googlegroups.com List-Help: http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=ar_US, mailto:uhrda-15+h...@googlegroups.com List-Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15?hl=ar_US Sender: uhrda...@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/subscribe?hl=ar_US, mailto:uhrda-15+subscr...@googlegroups.com List-Unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/subscribe?hl=ar_US, mailto:googlegroups-manage+474025889798+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_Part_304_10870051.1349943223713 X-Nonspam: None Status: RO Content-Length: 22859 Lines: 387 I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that way. Erich ___
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Re: Spam and more spam.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi Gary, On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, hello erich and everyone, im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would not be able to sleep then either. ha! never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer. my daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on. it is long-gone:) so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below. but at the bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email. if you can gleen anything from it, excellent. I get other *non*-8859 iso encoded email. {Note that I still use mutt as my mua. until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non- Latin characters. Let me see what you got. for my appending the spam that I got from wherever. it might have been sent from Anywhere. It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of FreeBSD have been between. it looks to me like this [and probably my other junk email] is coming from the lines in my ~/.fetchmailrc that go out and pull in what is sent to my gmail account. [rarely, there is spam from one of the freebsd lists--usually questions.] instead of getting mad, I just hit d and move on. From uhrda...@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012 Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199] by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22) for kline@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 - Received: from unknown (HELO p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180]) (envelope-sender uhrda-15+bncbdnzzghsyenbboh73gbqkgqe66yi...@googlegroups.com) by p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for kl...@thought.org; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 - X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id x4sf1055803obh.21 for kl...@thought.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jMFZmAQdT+pN7T6QKNSP2XkXpR1aCJ1+Wwtbzb2StxM=; b=jPb2itO+q4lJZ9J8x8DIaPCegwCUkLJvIshfIA680YoMkZXW75RlpD+gCRtmmdsU7g A6qeq75zQpbzkMHzwCXyQjNCxXFN/J2Ldi5AChZgi21i0BCELW7gOpBxcsdcpwr6qlGy rVjws1Cnyzx/sZ6nX7J+Y1escXN7oPTWVQL6aqqqgkGXpW8ce6vJLE/lAEke8Jsdx2QW hZ+klU5MPA700mA+ZE+0qYGHSv2D9DolX3+ilivKy9QiMHYFpyt+/njC533tyTtRISxu j3QpnxjbSv+MYMy7bg4RPFtnZQY7wYvK0NWXQymo5VLtjvxu0QXDJPghZDEsrMtgVnOE o5jw== Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr7790vdg.10.1349943226444; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls1027454vcu.8.gmail; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr6251vdv.17.1349943224082; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: hamdy ahmed uhrda1...@gmail.com To: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Message-Id: 29039954-caad-40fe-a3be-d06d79027...@googlegroups.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?2YjYsdi02Kkg2LnZhdmEIDogKNiq2YbZhdmK2Kkg2Ygg?= =?UTF-8?B?2KrYt9mI2YrYsSDYp9mE2YXZh9in2LHYp9iqINin2YTYpdiv2Kc=?= =?UTF-8?B?2LHZitipKdin2LPYt9mG2KjZiNmEIOKAkyDYqtix2YPZitinIA==?= =?UTF-8?B?IDIyIOKAkyAzMSDYr9mK2LPZhdio2LEyMDEy2YU=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: uhrda1...@gmail.com Reply-To: uhrda...@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list uhrda...@googlegroups.com; contact uhrda-15+own...@googlegroups.com List-ID: uhrda-15.googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 474025889798 List-Post: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/post?hl=ar_US, mailto:uhrda...@googlegroups.com List-Help: http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=ar_US, mailto:uhrda-15+h...@googlegroups.com List-Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15?hl=ar_US Sender: uhrda...@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: