define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread s m
hello all

i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
from a to h, not any more.

i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
more partitions.

my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).

any comments or hints are appreciated.
SAM
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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:
 hello all
 
 i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
 partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
 from a to h, not any more.

That's correct and expected for the MBR partitioning approach
(which is considered mostly outdated today).



 i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
 more partitions.

Because you _cannot_ define more partitions than up to 'h'.
This is a hard-defined limit of MBR-style partitions (as
they are initialized with bsdlabel).



 my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
 example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).

You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
and so on.




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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread s m
thanks for your reply,

it is a good news if i can define more partitions with gpart. names
are not so important for me. if i can define more partitions with
gpart, are these partitions work correctly? you know i wan to define a
journal partition for each partition on my freebsd. so if i use these
extra partition as journal provider, do they work correctly?

and another question, how can i define more partitions with gpart? i
searched and some people say to use gpart -n 20. do you mean to use
this command too?

and my last question, some people say to change byte 0x28a of the disk
from 0x08 to 0x14 (which 14 is the number of partitions). do you think
it's a good idea and applicable solution?

thanks for your attention

On 6/1/13, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:
 hello all

 i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
 partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
 from a to h, not any more.

 That's correct and expected for the MBR partitioning approach
 (which is considered mostly outdated today).



 i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
 more partitions.

 Because you _cannot_ define more partitions than up to 'h'.
 This is a hard-defined limit of MBR-style partitions (as
 they are initialized with bsdlabel).



 my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
 example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).

 You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
 and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
 than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
 names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
 and so on.




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Re: Where to get source for 10?

2013-06-01 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On 2013-06-01 02:47, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Fri, 31 May 2013 19:27:36 -0400, Ayan George wrote:
 On 05/31/2013 07:23 PM, Walter Hurry wrote:
 For 9.1 I can checkout http://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1/

 But where can I get the source for FreeBSD10?

 I assume it'd be the head branch:

   http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/
 
 Thanks.

Consider using a mirror:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/svn-mirrors.html



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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Robert Huff

s m writes:


  and my last question, some people say to change byte 0x28a of the
  disk from 0x08 to 0x14 (which 14 is the number of partitions). do
  you think it's a good idea and applicable solution?

Short answer: if you have to ask - no, it isn't.
:-)
Respectfully,


Robert Huff
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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread s m
thanks Robert,

so i just have one choice: gpart. do you know how to use it? i define
ad3 and ad3s1; after that i run this command: gpart create -s mbr -n
20 ad3s1. but this error happens: GEOM: file exists.
after that i do it again in different way: i create ad3 and after that
run the above command but it says: invalid argument ad3s1. i think
because there is no ad3s1!!!

now how can i use -n flag to set entries number for my partitioning???

you know it is so important for me :(( any comments or hints are
really appreciated.
SAM

On 6/1/13, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:

 s m writes:


  and my last question, some people say to change byte 0x28a of the
  disk from 0x08 to 0x14 (which 14 is the number of partitions). do
  you think it's a good idea and applicable solution?

   Short answer: if you have to ask - no, it isn't.
   :-)
   Respectfully,


   Robert Huff
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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
 On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:
 hello all

  i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
  partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
  from a to h, not any more.

 That's correct and expected for the MBR partitioning approach
 (which is considered mostly outdated today).



  i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
  more partitions.

 Because you _cannot_ define more partitions than up to 'h'.
 This is a hard-defined limit of MBR-style partitions (as
 they are initialized with bsdlabel).



  my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
  example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).

 You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
 and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
 than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
 names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
 and so on.


 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...


Are you sure of this?  Can you GPT-partition an MBR slice as opposed to the 
whole disk?

You should get ad3p1, ad3p2, ...,ad3p10, ad3p11, ...

Then you would have to migrate an MBR partition table to GPT, if you have 
non-FreeBSD slices.  I don't know if gpart can do that, but Rod Smith's gdisk 
(included in FreeBSD ports) or gpt (still used in NetBSD but not FreeBSD) can.

Tom

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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013, Polytropon wrote:

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:


my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).


You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
and so on.


GPT partitioning is a replacement for MBR partitioning, and will
generally look like ad3p1, ad3p2, and so on.  FreeBSD's GPT 
implementation should allow 128 GPT partitions by default, although I 
have not tested that.


Use of gpart to set up a disk is shown here:
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html

The FreeBSD 9.x installer, bsdinstall, uses GPT partitioning by default. 
The older sysinstall that is used on FreeBSD 8 does not, and probably 
has no native way to use GPT.  The partitions would have to be set up 
manually from a shell before running the installer, and then manually 
entered in the installer.

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FreeBSD10: lock order reversal with portsnap extract

2013-06-01 Thread Walter Hurry
I'm installing FreeBSD10 (head; snapshot from 30 May 2013) into a VM.

One of the first things I do is a 'portsnap fetch extract'. As soon as 
the extract starts it produces a 'lock order reversal' message with a KDB 
stack backtrace, but then proceeds successfully to verify the integrity 
and install the ports tree.

Should I worry?

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Re: FreeBSD10: lock order reversal with portsnap extract

2013-06-01 Thread Fernando ApesteguĆ­a
El 01/06/2013 15:44, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com escribiĆ³:

 I'm installing FreeBSD10 (head; snapshot from 30 May 2013) into a VM.

 One of the first things I do is a 'portsnap fetch extract'. As soon as
 the extract starts it produces a 'lock order reversal' message with a KDB
 stack backtrace, but then proceeds successfully to verify the integrity
 and install the ports tree.

 Should I worry?

LORs should be avoided when possible but are not a bug per se.

You should check the pages listed here[1] to see if your lor has already
been reported.

Cheers.

[1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/LOR


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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:10:03 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Jun 2013, Polytropon wrote:
  On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:
 
  my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
  example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).
 
  You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
  and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
  than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
  names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
  and so on.
 
 GPT partitioning is a replacement for MBR partitioning, and will
 generally look like ad3p1, ad3p2, and so on. 

Sorry for my inaccuracy: Of course the slicing part as well
as the BSD partitions are _both_ replaced by GPT partition
numbers.



 Use of gpart to set up a disk is shown here:
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html

That article should be on the top of each list regarding
disk partitioning on FreeBSD, maybe something comparable
could be added to the Handbook?



 The FreeBSD 9.x installer, bsdinstall, uses GPT partitioning by default. 
 The older sysinstall that is used on FreeBSD 8 does not, and probably 
 has no native way to use GPT.

As far as I know: no. You have to use the common CLI tools
if you want to install FreeBSD 8 on a GPT system (but it's
easily possible).



 The partitions would have to be set up 
 manually from a shell before running the installer, and then manually 
 entered in the installer.

With the precaution of _not_ to vary existing partitions.
However, I don't know how the installer will handle the
non-MBR partitions (probably comparable to dedicated
partitions?), I've never tried that. (Even for dedicated
layout, I personally tend to use CLI only, without using
sysinstall or sade).



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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 05:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:
  On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:10:32 +0430, s m wrote:
  hello all
 
   i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
   partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
   from a to h, not any more.
 
  That's correct and expected for the MBR partitioning approach
  (which is considered mostly outdated today).
 
 
 
   i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
   more partitions.
 
  Because you _cannot_ define more partitions than up to 'h'.
  This is a hard-defined limit of MBR-style partitions (as
  they are initialized with bsdlabel).
 
 
 
   my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
   example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).
 
  You cannot. You need to use the GPT partitioning approach
  and repartition your disk. With gpart, you can create more
  than 'h' partitions, but the partitions will have different
  names, such as ad3s1p1, ad3s1p2, ..., ad3s1p10, ad3s1p11, ...
  and so on.
 
 
  Polytropon
  Magdeburg, Germany
  Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
  Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
 
 
 Are you sure of this?  Can you GPT-partition an MBR slice as
 opposed to the whole disk?

Probably not. GPT obsoletes both slices and partitions.



 You should get ad3p1, ad3p2, ...,ad3p10, ad3p11, ...

That is what I should have written. :-)



 Then you would have to migrate an MBR partition table to GPT,
 if you have non-FreeBSD slices.  I don't know if gpart can do
 that, but Rod Smith's gdisk (included in FreeBSD ports) or
 gpt (still used in NetBSD but not FreeBSD) can.

The simplest approach would probably be to backup the
data from the existing partitions, re-inialize the whole
disk with a GPT scheme, format the (GPT) partitions and
then restore the dump previously taken. I'm not sure if
such kind of harsh re-partitioning can be done _safely_
on the fly...


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cannot ftp using proxy

2013-06-01 Thread vadims

Hello!
Still can't resolve problem with ftp utility.

root@ona:/root # ftp ftp2.freebsd.org
ftp: Can't connect to `128.205.32.24:21': Operation timed out
ftp: Can't connect to `ftp2.freebsd.org:ftp'
ftp

socksta -4 tells me that it is not even trying to connect to proxy 
server, connecting directly instead:


root@ona:/root # sockstat -4
USER COMMANDPID   FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS
root ftp54160 3  tcp4   10.10.15.26:50457 128.205.32.24:21


root@ona:/root # uname -a
FreeBSD ona.iem.gov.lv 9.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Mon 
Apr 29 18:27:25 UTC 2013 
r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64



root@ona:/root # env
TERM=screen
ftp_proxy=http://myproxy:8080
http_proxy=http://myproxy:8080
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin
SHELL=/bin/csh
HOME=/root
USER=root
HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD
VENDOR=amd
OSTYPE=FreeBSD
MACHTYPE=x86_64
SHLVL=1
PWD=/root
LOGNAME=root
GROUP=wheel
HOST=ona
EDITOR=vi
PAGER=more
BLOCKSIZE=K

Tried to google with no luck - no solution works for me. By the way, 
fetch works as expected, I can fetch and install ports.

I would appreciate any help and/or any hints!

Best regards!
VS.
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Re: define more partitions in freebsd

2013-06-01 Thread Carl Johnson
s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com writes:

 hello all

 i want to install freebsd8.2 on my system. for some reasons, i need
 partitions more than 6. my freebsd just allow me to define partitions
 from a to h, not any more.

 i checked FreeBSD handbook, but it doesn't say anything about defining
 more partitions.

 my question is: how can i define more partitions on my freebsd? (for
 example, ad3s1a, ..., ad3s1h, ad3s1i, ad3s1j, ...).

 any comments or hints are appreciated.
 SAM

Others have already commented that GPT labels are better, but I think
that you can have more than 8 partitions.  I remember a posting a while
back that the maximum had been increased.  You will have to experiment
if you want to do this, but gpart shows an example that uses 20
partitions:  '/sbin/gpart create -s BSD -n 20 ada0s1'.  I also don't
know that bsdlabel will handle these, so you definitely should
experiment first.
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Re: FreeBSD10: lock order reversal with portsnap extract

2013-06-01 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference:
 From: Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com 
 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:43:47 + (UTC) 

Walter Hurry wrote:
 I'm installing FreeBSD10 (head; snapshot from 30 May 2013) into a VM.
 
 One of the first things I do is a 'portsnap fetch extract'. As soon as 
 the extract starts it produces a 'lock order reversal' message with a KDB 
 stack backtrace, but then proceeds successfully to verify the integrity 
 and install the ports tree.
 
 Should I worry?

Yes, you should worry ;-)

Worry you didn't realise:
a) questions@ list was created originally for beginners
b) the so called 10 is actually current
for that you should subscribe @ ask on curr...@freebsd.org
Best go review the descriptions of the 50 odd lists we have on @freebsd.org

Cheers,
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Re: FreeBSD10: lock order reversal with portsnap extract

2013-06-01 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 20:22:29 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

 Hi, Reference:
 From:Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com
 Date:Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:43:47 + (UTC)
 
 Walter Hurry wrote:
 I'm installing FreeBSD10 (head; snapshot from 30 May 2013) into a VM.
 
 One of the first things I do is a 'portsnap fetch extract'. As soon as
 the extract starts it produces a 'lock order reversal' message with a
 KDB stack backtrace, but then proceeds successfully to verify the
 integrity and install the ports tree.
 
 Should I worry?
 
 Yes, you should worry ;-)
 
 Worry you didn't realise:
   a) questions@ list was created originally for beginners b) the so
   called 10 is actually current
   for that you should subscribe @ ask on curr...@freebsd.org
 Best go review the descriptions of the 50 odd lists we have on
 @freebsd.org
 
Oh, OK. Sorry. Will do.

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quota advice

2013-06-01 Thread Pol Hallen
Hello all :-)

I using quota and I've a doubt: many howto advice to put to cron
something like:

quotacheck -vguma

but the problem is:

quotacheck: Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint /data so quotacheck
might damage the file.
Please turn quotas off or use -f to force checking.

So... can be a good idea, put:

quotaoff -a
quotacheck -vguma
quotaon -a

to script to do this check or there is another way?

thanks for help!

Pol
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Re: openvpn and tap device

2013-06-01 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

On 29.05.2013 17:52, Pol Hallen wrote:

It's a while since I looked at OpenVPN, so this is from unreliable
memory, but IIRC it uses tap devices under Windows and tun devices under
Unix(ish) OSes. Do you see tun0 appear?

sorry for the mistake: tun device

I don't have any tun devices but I can use openvpn to connect to other vpn
client

Do you start openvpn from console or have you a log- file for openvpn?
There stand, what openvpn is doing and how it connect.

Pol
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Re: openvpn and tap device

2013-06-01 Thread Teske, Devin

On May 29, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Pol Hallen wrote:

 It's a while since I looked at OpenVPN, so this is from unreliable
 memory, but IIRC it uses tap devices under Windows and tun devices under
 Unix(ish) OSes. Do you see tun0 appear?
 
 sorry for the mistake: tun device
 
 I don't have any tun devices but I can use openvpn to connect to other vpn 
 client
 

tun devices are used with software like vpnc in my experience.
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Test

2013-06-01 Thread Al Plant


Ping . Pong

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Re: Test

2013-06-01 Thread Chris Hill

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013, Al Plant wrote:


Ping . Pong


http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test

Mahalo.



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