Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
-Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. My experience with squirrel on PHP 5.x has been that it won't show every message in the webmail users inbox. People complained about lost mails and after checking spam filtering etc. I realised that the mails had arrived into inbox safely. After asking the clients to test another mail client - Thunderbird, Live mail, etc. The lost mails were there. That prompted for pretty fast substitution of squirrel with something else. Roundcube with it's snazzy javascript interface is neat, but many mobile/tablet browsers scale the display instead of doubleclicking. Sadly there is no free mobile theme for Roundcube, but every single one of those cost money. That leaves Imp as the only alternative left, especially if you avoid ToySQL like a plague. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On 31/08/2013 10:32, Reko Turja wrote: -Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. My experience with squirrel on PHP 5.x has been that it won't show every message in the webmail users inbox. People complained about lost mails and after checking spam filtering etc. I realised that the mails had arrived into inbox safely. After asking the clients to test another mail client - Thunderbird, Live mail, etc. The lost mails were there. That prompted for pretty fast substitution of squirrel with something else. Roundcube with it's snazzy javascript interface is neat, but many mobile/tablet browsers scale the display instead of doubleclicking. Sadly there is no free mobile theme for Roundcube, but every single one of those cost money. That leaves Imp as the only alternative left, especially if you avoid ToySQL like a plague. I see. I've got it running on several servers, and have done for many years - and I've never experienced any problems or had them reported to me. I can't be sure, but I think I've only ever run it on PHP5 and nearly always on FreeBSD. One of the reasons I've stuck with it is that it's reliable and friendly to all browsers, and I use it for fixing user's mailbox problems. I've been playing around with Roundcube for a few months as an alternative - users like the way it looks. FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Regards, Frank. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
-Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Running Cyrus here for ages, it might be a bit of pain to set up, but it's been a really bulletproof and zero maintenance solution. The problems cannot be replicated on any other client, only Squirrel has those problems with mail not showing up. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
--On August 31, 2013 8:35:27 AM +0100 Frank Leonhardt freebsd-...@fjl.co.uk wrote: On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. The port has been marked BROKEN for quite a while. The release that resolves problems with PHP 5.4 and above has not yet been released. The fixes have been in nightly snapshots since May 2013, but the final release (which would update the FreeBSD port) has never been available and still isn't. Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
find ports that aren't required anymore
I was using the postfix port, but decided to replace it with ssmtp to reduce ports in use and simplify system updating (deleting postfix with pkg_delete). Is it possible that deleting postfix will leave ports installed that aren't required anymore? Will pkg_delete also delete any dependencies no longer required? If I could have ports still installed that aren't required anymore? How can I find them now? Portmaster? All the information I could find related to finding dependencies for a port, not for finding installed ports that don't have parent dependencies. Is it possible to invoke pkg_info -R on all ports and filter the output? TIA, Dale ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find ports that aren't required anymore
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013, at 14:19, Dale Scott wrote: I was using the postfix port, but decided to replace it with ssmtp to reduce ports in use and simplify system updating (deleting postfix with pkg_delete). Is it possible that deleting postfix will leave ports installed that aren't required anymore? Will pkg_delete also delete any dependencies no longer required? If I could have ports still installed that aren't required anymore? How can I find them now? Portmaster? If you're using the old pkg format you'll want to use something like pkg_cutleaves which is in ports. If you're using the new pkg format you can simply run pkg autoremove. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find ports that aren't required anymore
Cool, thanks Mark. Guess that's also a reason to learn new pkg tools. . On 2013-08-31, at 1:41 PM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2013, at 14:19, Dale Scott wrote: I was using the postfix port, but decided to replace it with ssmtp to reduce ports in use and simplify system updating (deleting postfix with pkg_delete). Is it possible that deleting postfix will leave ports installed that aren't required anymore? Will pkg_delete also delete any dependencies no longer required? If I could have ports still installed that aren't required anymore? How can I find them now? Portmaster? If you're using the old pkg format you'll want to use something like pkg_cutleaves which is in ports. If you're using the new pkg format you can simply run pkg autoremove. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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