evil idea
-- Forwarded message -- From: Astrodog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 26, 2007 11:34 PM Subject: Re: evil idea To: Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/26/07, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running amd64 8-CURRENT and there are a few i386 only ports that I absolutely must have installed and at the same time since I have 4 GB of RAM all kinds of bizarreness is created if I downgrade to i386. So here is the idea: use qemu to create a virtual version of my machine (with less then 2GB or RAM) and install i386 8-CURRENT on it (I want to use -CURRENT for all my installs) Any thing I should watch out for here (I know I need to use NFS or something like it to share files between the host and guest OS's) There's actually a known system that will work for this. You can use your existing swap partition, as an extra root partition, installing there, then booting to that, then rebuild/install to your original partition. Its the same basic idea as the method for updating from 4.x-7.x, and should be on the lists. (Note to docs, might be worth putting it somewhere.) --- Harrison ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:40:51 +0100, Davide Lemma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in a situation similar to you... I've just purchased a Medion SIM2000, it boots up but I've also some troubles with sound modem. Here the strange problem is that the sound card is a AC97 ALS (SiS7012) and it just outputs from headphone and the modem is a SiS7013 (Intel Winmodem) that isn't in the ports tree (while there is the LT winmodem). For the Video Card with some trick I was able to get a full 16:9 resolution like in windows but without DRI (this is an Xorg problem). Above all I'm almost surprised because I know the difficulty to work with a laptop unix. I've tried Fedora Core 3 Debian III but it gives me an error during boot (acpi error). So like a BSD users I feel above all lucky enough. The only suggestion I feel to give you is to wait the awake of 6.0 because it will have many changes in ACPI calls. I'm waiting too to have some tricks about my sound card :) bye Davide - Original Message - From: bsdnooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: All your laptops are belong to Windows. I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Under Windows, it appears Hyper-Threading is turned on, and I have not found a way to turn it off inside the CMOS. The machine runs Windows XP Pro fine, but I am trying to switch to FreeBSD on all my boxen. I was really surprised to find this one abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install. It turns off before the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve this problem. The HD is never touched. I'm blue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have an HP or Compaq laptop, and you see this problem TRY the R3000Z patches. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Business Information.
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:35:55 +0100, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Astrodog writes: Assuming its not being done already, I'd like to start putting together the business information regarding FreeBSD for either the FreeBSD.com, or somesuch website with the assistance, and (I hope) blessing, as it were, with people on the list. I determined that if I'm unwilling to do this myself, it is unreasonable to expect others to do the footwork. Please let me know if someone else already does this, and if not, who would be interested in contributing to such a project. I can contribute DTP work. I have a full suite of professional electronic publishing tools and can prepare things like books, brochures, leaflets, etc., that might be useful for promotional use. Not being a marketroid, I'm not necessarily qualified to write the content (although I can certainly help with that if needed), but I can massage it all into page layouts that can be converted to PDFs and professionally printed. (I can't cover the physical printing myself, though, as actually printing the documents costs more than I can afford). If you're going to pitch FreeBSD to corporations and other serious organizations, you need some sort of promotional literature. Preparing PDFs for printing or display is delicate work; and Microsoft Word or StarOffice are not the tools for doing it, sorry. -- Anthony I'm definitly(sp) with you on the tools for creating PDFs and printed materials. Making a StarOffice/Word document look right for publication is a pain. Thanks for the rapid response, interest, and volunteering. --- Harrison Grundy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel EMT64 Xeon vs AMD Opteron
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:37:08 +0100 (CET), Claus Guttesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cost wise, AMD Opteron 246 is roughly the same cost as a 3.0Ghz Xeon ... But how do they compare performance wise; specifically related to FreeBSD? We have a dual xeon (nocona) @ 3.2 GHz and a dual opteron @ 2 GHz, both with 4 GB RAM and running the amd64-port. My impression is that the opteron performs *slightly* better than it's Intel-cousin. regards Claus ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what I understand, EM64T is essentally an extention to x86, so it will understand the AMD64 instructions, much the same way an Athlon64 does. Opteron, once again, from what I've read on the topic is Actual 64-bit, not an emulated version. Generally, I find Opteron to be the best Bang for your Buck, though what motherboard, and what features you need there may also play a role there. AMD, so far, has implied that the dual core opterons will be Socket 940, If that pans out, the 940-based solution will be significantly more expandable, since there's little to no chance of Intel continuing to use their current Xeon socket when their Dual Core offerings come out, and I suspect it would be technically impossible, given the Memory Controller issues that its bound to create. Since AMD put the memory controller on-die, they can resolve this issue in the core, and not involve the chipsets of the motherboard itself. Remember, Hyperthreading isn't dual core, its kinda like adding another Lane to the processing pipeline of a single processor, so that when something stalls, other things can still happen. Hypertransport, on the other hand is AMD's method of connecting SMP CPUs to eachother, memory, and devices on the motherboard. Sorry about the Hypertransport/Hyperthreading thing, but there seems to be a great deal of confusion about what each are, and what's good/bad about them, and they relate to the AMD/Intel decsion you're making pretty explicitly. Personally, I say go with the Opteron. Worst case, performance and reliability are the same, and you're supporting the underdog. Best case, it blows your socks off, and in a year, you can go dual core. Either way, you can't loose. Harrison Grundy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel EMT64 Xeon vs AMD Opteron
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:38:43 -0800, Astrodog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:37:08 +0100 (CET), Claus Guttesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cost wise, AMD Opteron 246 is roughly the same cost as a 3.0Ghz Xeon ... But how do they compare performance wise; specifically related to FreeBSD? We have a dual xeon (nocona) @ 3.2 GHz and a dual opteron @ 2 GHz, both with 4 GB RAM and running the amd64-port. My impression is that the opteron performs *slightly* better than it's Intel-cousin. regards Claus ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what I understand, EM64T is essentally an extention to x86, so it will understand the AMD64 instructions, much the same way an Athlon64 does. Opteron, once again, from what I've read on the topic is Actual 64-bit, not an emulated version. Generally, I find Opteron to be the best Bang for your Buck, though what motherboard, and what features you need there may also play a role there. AMD, so far, has implied that the dual core opterons will be Socket 940, If that pans out, the 940-based solution will be significantly more expandable, since there's little to no chance of Intel continuing to use their current Xeon socket when their Dual Core offerings come out, and I suspect it would be technically impossible, given the Memory Controller issues that its bound to create. Since AMD put the memory controller on-die, they can resolve this issue in the core, and not involve the chipsets of the motherboard itself. Remember, Hyperthreading isn't dual core, its kinda like adding another Lane to the processing pipeline of a single processor, so that when something stalls, other things can still happen. Hypertransport, on the other hand is AMD's method of connecting SMP CPUs to eachother, memory, and devices on the motherboard. Sorry about the Hypertransport/Hyperthreading thing, but there seems to be a great deal of confusion about what each are, and what's good/bad about them, and they relate to the AMD/Intel decsion you're making pretty explicitly. Personally, I say go with the Opteron. Worst case, performance and reliability are the same, and you're supporting the underdog. Best case, it blows your socks off, and in a year, you can go dual core. Either way, you can't loose. Harrison Grundy D'oh. One other thing. In the benchmarks I've seen, Opterons Play Nicer with SMP because of the Hypertransport setup in some applications. (IE, they don't fight over memory the way Xeons do). Look for a motherboard that uses a 4+4 or 4+2 memory configuration to take full advantage of this. (Differnt memory for each processor, kinda) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: touchpad not recognized and USB mouse doesn't work ...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 05:35:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear FreeBSD users, Once more I am asking your advice with a old Laptop I have. Pressario 1230. Nothing worked as fast as FreeBSD in that thing! It was amazing how quickly it booted when compared with SuSE or Windows. Help me to fix 2 things though so it becomes useful! 1) In FreeBSD 4.10 there are no problems with the time; the clock works fine. Unfortunately in 5.3 Release you see the clock running instead one-by-one second 5-by-5 seconds. I do not know why! Any ideas? 2) Both 4.9, 4.10, 5.0, 5.2.1, 5.3 Releases cannot use the touchpad. The touchpad is invisible to them. Even from the time when installation is perfomed! You remember that you asked to test the mouse daemon if there any non-usb mices during installation don't you? In Linux the touchpad is recognized and works fine and that is with all Fedora and SuSE versions. 3) As an alternative to touchpad I am using a USB mouse. But this only works under 5.3 Release. It can't work with 4.10 or any of the 4.X series. I did: #ls /dev/ and I saw the devices therein! Nowhere isnide /dev/ I could find /dev/psm0. Everything existed except /dev/psm0. Is it possible that for some reason it is assigned a wrong IRQ number and it conflicts with some other device? Undr Linux /dev/psm0 is /dev/psaux and it is assigned an IRQ number 12. I've attached my dmesg and my /etc/rc.conf. # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Dec 12 15:06:12 2004 # Created: Sun Dec 12 15:06:12 2004 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. #defaultrouter=195.130.113.200 hostname=nevrologia fconfig_ed1=inet 192.168.0.1 keyrate=fast moused_enable=YES sshd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES font8x16=grfixed-8x16 keymap=keramida.el-iso Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Cyrix GXm (26.23-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = CyrixInstead Id = 0x540 DIR=0x3544 Stepping=3 Revision=5 real memory = 100663296 (96 MB) avail memory = 88834048 (84 MB) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum npx0: [FAST] npx0: math processor on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: Host to PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 5 Entries on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 cbb0: TI1221 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 17.0 on pci0 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 cbb1: TI1221 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 17.1 on pci0 cardbus1: CardBus bus on cbb1 pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge port 0x5000-0x500f,0x4000-0x401f,0x3000-0x307f mem 0x4001-0x40010fff at device 18.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfedfe000-0xfedfefff irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x0e11) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: Atmel product 0x3311, class 9/0, rev 1.00/3.00, addr 2 uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pci0: display, VGA at device 20.0 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc9fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter TSC frequency 26233012 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 3100MB FUJITSU MHA2032AT/8211 [6300/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4 acd0: CDROM TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-1702BC/1261 at ata1-master PIO4 ed1: PCMCIA Ethernet Card at port 0x300-0x31f irq 9 function 0 config 32 on pccard0 ed1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ed1: Ethernet address: 00:a0:0c:12:74:2e ed1: if_start running deferred for Giant type NE2000 (16 bit)
