Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:08:13PM -0800, Zach Leslie wrote: http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. This misses one of of the main points raised in the original post. The proliferation of git as a revision control system. Also, this particular tool bails out on the unix philosophy, with its web gui, ticket tracker etc. Do one thing. Do it well. Look at the internal of fossil and how things are done in fossil and you would understand that the last sentence is totally wrong. Fossil has really nice features that could nicely fits with FreeBSD workflows and greatly improves it. It has most of the new shiny feature everyone can expect from a dvcs, but it also has it drawbacks: The converted repositories (I did convert docs, src and ports) with full history kept: branches, tags, etc. is huge and the first clone would be painful to do. On the other side you have multiple working copies open on the same clone which is really nice. Some of the operations can be slow, Jörg Sonnenberger wrote an analysis about this one the fossil wiki, but don't remember the link sorry. From my testing, apart from the do we really need a new scm question? I am a big fan of fossil and find it easier and cleaner than all the other scm I know, I use git for pkgng and other projects, I use a lot mercurial on some other area, and fossil remains my favorite :). But I really don't think it could fit FreeBSD's requirements as it is now. but there are lots of room of improvements. The learning curve to fossil is probably really easy. On of the last thing is that fossil lacks keyword expansion. That said I'm happy with svn on FreeBSD, I still from time to time do conversion of out different tree to fossil for fun, but no more and I won't advocate for any vcs change. Bapt pgppBxhkxmBDd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Scalable Opengroupware (SOGo) in FreeBSD ports tree
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:55:22PM +0200, Matthias Petermann wrote: Hello, I am thinking about creating a port for SOGo[1]. Is there already someone working on it? Kind regards, Matthias [1] http://www.sogo.nu/english.html -- Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net ___ freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I have done: http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/sogo.tar.gz and http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/sope.tar.gz One year ago. I have given up working on it :) Feel free to use it, or start from scratch. Regards, Bapt pgpAWxQRpyWPx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: having a real sat solver for the dependency tree. Currently we have a really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to go to an even finer package management we would need a real solver. Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the impression that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible to the partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for example one routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more sophisticated in mind? I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in the right order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :) I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some conflicts by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to depends on provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on feature. An even more. What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary world (and it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can help us go forward and imagine an even better package tool. regards, Bapt pgpNNE48ZGyDu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fwd: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out]
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:18:59AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.ukwrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:06:33AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52:05AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: having a real sat solver for the dependency tree. Currently we have a really simple and minimalistic solver which works well but if we can to go to an even finer package management we would need a real solver. Please may you expand on what you really mean here? I was under the impression that the only problem was to provide a total order on ports compatible to the partial order fixed by dependency, and this is very easy. There is for example one routine to do that in portupgrade. Or do you have something more sophisticated in mind? I mean something more sophisticated, the simple thing having things in the right order is hopefuly already done in pkgng :) I mean more something that is able to go further like resolving some conflicts by changing the ordering automatically, like offerting the ability to depends on provides e.g. depends on http_server instead of depending on apache/lighttpd/nginx/thehttpyouprefer or begin able to depends on feature. An even more. What we have now is really enough to be able to go into a full binary world (and it does really work nicely) but having a real complex sat solver, can help us go forward and imagine an even better package tool. regards, Bapt sat solver : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZYpp#SAT_solver_integration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_complexity_theory wow.. that's hardcore computer science. You mean something like this: http://minisat.se/ http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/sat/march_dl.php but BSD licensed? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 Yes . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Thanks To more examples which are BSD LIcense: https://github.com/openSUSE/sat-solver https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv regards, Bapt pgpldbKfQqndA.pgp Description: PGP signature
