Re: cloning freebsd from desktop to laptop computer.

2006-03-02 Thread Dmitri Pisarev

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 2/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Dmitri Pisarev wrote:
   


Nikolas Britton wrote:

 


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   


I've got laptop Toshiba Portege 3480CT(no floppy, no CD-ROM, no booting
from USB flash supported etc. 40G HDD) and a desktop computer running
FreeBSD 6.0(athlon 3200+, WD 80G HDD).
I need to install freebsd on to my laptop computer.
The question is, is it posible to copy the freebsd patition to the
laptop computer somehow, so it would remain bootable? I tried to copy my
ad0s2(my BSD partition) to ad0s3 on laptop, using dd.exe for windows,
and all i get is Boot error. I'm using freebsd bootloader on desktop,
and BootMagic on laptop, could that be a problem?
any help or suggestions are appreciated.
 


I had the same problem (ThinkPad X30) - which I solved in a great way
with VMware (www.vmware.com). Speed of FreeBSD is about 80% compared to
native installation and stability is so far (2-3 months) rock solid.

You can do a minimal install within VMware, then mount the desktop drive
(via the network) and do dump/restore.

   



Better yet... use pqmagic to resize / setup the disk (if not already
done). Then in Windows Install and run VMware Workstation 5:

Click on File  New  Virtual Machine.
Click Next.
Select Custom.
Click Next.
Select Other, Version: FreeBSD
Click Next.
Click Next.
Click Next.
Click Next.
Select Use a physical disk.
Click Ok
 


Select Usage: Use individual partitions
 


Doesn't work. Had to use entire disk instead.


Select Partition you want FreeBSD installed on.
Click Finish.
--
Click on Edit virtual machine settings
Select CD-ROM (IDE 1:0), Change Connection to Use ISO Image
(If CD-ROM (IDE 1:0) is not in the list then click on Add, Next,
DVD/CD-ROM Drive, select Use ISO image)
Click on Browse
Find and Select: 6.1-BETA2-i386-disc2.iso

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.1/6.1-BETA2-i386-disc2.iso

Click on ok.
Click on start this virtual machine.
Install FreeBSD. (select use boot loader when asked)
FreeBSD should now be installed on your disk.
Reboot and Configure BootMagic, pointing it to FreeBSD partition.
Boot into FreeBSD.


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Thank you for the wonderful advice! Had no idea of that feature before!
Now everything works as it's supposed to.
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Re: cloning freebsd from desktop to laptop computer.

2006-02-27 Thread Dmitri Pisarev

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Nikolas Britton wrote:

   


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 


I've got laptop Toshiba Portege 3480CT(no floppy, no CD-ROM, no booting
   


from USB flash supported etc. 40G HDD) and a desktop computer running
 


FreeBSD 6.0(athlon 3200+, WD 80G HDD).
I need to install freebsd on to my laptop computer.
The question is, is it posible to copy the freebsd patition to the
laptop computer somehow, so it would remain bootable? I tried to copy my
ad0s2(my BSD partition) to ad0s3 on laptop, using dd.exe for windows,
and all i get is Boot error. I'm using freebsd bootloader on desktop,
and BootMagic on laptop, could that be a problem?
any help or suggestions are appreciated.


   


The simple way would be to buy a 2.5 to 3.5 IDE adaptor. Pull the
drive out of the laptop and put it in your desktop to Install FreeBSD.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=2.5%203.5%20IDE%20Adapter


 


Thank you for the reply!
I have already been replacing my HDD once, and it's a real problem for
me to disassemble it, takes hell of a lot of time, so I would like to
avoid it.
So, is there a way to clone partition from one system to another and
make it work?
Also, does anyone know, will my laptop netboot(PXE or smth?) from Xircom
100/10 PCMCIA adapter?
   



Will the BIOS let you do this?
 

Do you mean the netcard BIOS or the motherboard BIOS? In system BIOS 
there's an option to boot from network. I have no idea what booting 
capabilities(PXE, netboot) my network card supports, 'll try to figure 
it out somehow.


 


Here's a list of posible ways I'm considering to installing freebsd on
to my laptop:
1)Buy the toshiba floppy drive(difficult to find in russia...).
   



Any USB Floppy Drive should work.
 

Ha! I wish! Portege's only recognise their own booting peripherals as 
boot devices((( As I was told at least...


 


2)Boot over the network.
3)Pull the drive out and install BSD on the desktop.
4)Clone partition somehow??
5)Any other way? I know how to install Linux without booting up, is the
same posible with FreeBSD?
   



How do you do it with Linux?... and re-explane how you tired to do it
with FreeBSD.


 


Tool called loading lets you do it. Somebody already has replied.

and re-explane how you tired to do it
with FreeBSD.
1)downloaded tool dd for windows.
2)on desktop issued the following: dd.exe if=//?/mydrive_bsdparition(don't 
remember the syntaxis) of=g:\image.img
3)copy the image file over wi-fi to my laptop.
4)on laptop, use dd once again: dd.exe if=c:\image.img 
of=//?/mydrive_mydesiredbsdpartition.
5)tried to boot newly copied partition using Bootmagic and got Boot error. 
Could Bootmagic be the problem??





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Re: cloning freebsd from desktop to laptop computer.

2006-02-27 Thread Dmitri Pisarev

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2/26/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


Nikolas Britton wrote:

 


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   


I've got laptop Toshiba Portege 3480CT(no floppy, no CD-ROM, no booting
 


from USB flash supported etc. 40G HDD) and a desktop computer running
   


FreeBSD 6.0(athlon 3200+, WD 80G HDD).
I need to install freebsd on to my laptop computer.
 



snips

 


huh? what's snips?(I'm a novice:-))


5)Any other way? I know how to install Linux without booting up, is the
same posible with FreeBSD?
 


How do you do it with Linux?... and re-explane how you tired to do it
with FreeBSD.
   



Loadlin will boot linux from any dos partition, probably ntfs (I haven't
tried that) and you can then fdisk the old windows partition, etc etc.
Might be very tricky, but with a little ingenuity one should be able
to boot linux, dump some freebsd stuff into the former winders partition
 


Hey! I still want to keep my windows partition!



(I'd bet you'd want to use grub for booting, call me old-fashioned) (I just
realised I have no idea how to newfs for ufs in linux, maybe here dd
or dump might work).

Stream of consciousness:  loadlin to linux, qemu to freebsd,


is that really neccesary? isn't there a version of qemu for windows?


mounting
the raw /dev/hda1 on freebsd and proceed from there?


Didn't grasp this step completly, sorry. what do you mean by

mounting
the raw /dev/hda1 on freebsd

? isn't it the same operation as I have been trying to do already with
dd? Re-explain please, if you can.


 If it works,
you're the bee's knees.  If you fail, though, you may never boot again,
which is why I would suggest keeping a linux partition (slice) and grub
working until you know it works.
In any case it sounds quite dangerous.  Proceed with caution.

Could loadlin be rewritten to work with any kernel?  has it been?

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cloning freebsd from desktop to laptop computer.

2006-02-26 Thread Dmitri Pisarev
I've got laptop Toshiba Portege 3480CT(no floppy, no CD-ROM, no booting 
from USB flash supported etc. 40G HDD) and a desktop computer running 
FreeBSD 6.0(athlon 3200+, WD 80G HDD).

I need to install freebsd on to my laptop computer.
The question is, is it posible to copy the freebsd patition to the 
laptop computer somehow, so it would remain bootable? I tried to copy my 
ad0s2(my BSD partition) to ad0s3 on laptop, using dd.exe for windows, 
and all i get is Boot error. I'm using freebsd bootloader on desktop, 
and BootMagic on laptop, could that be a problem?

any help or suggestions are appreciated.
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Re: cloning freebsd from desktop to laptop computer.

2006-02-26 Thread Dmitri Pisarev

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 2/26/06, Dmitri Pisarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


I've got laptop Toshiba Portege 3480CT(no floppy, no CD-ROM, no booting
from USB flash supported etc. 40G HDD) and a desktop computer running
FreeBSD 6.0(athlon 3200+, WD 80G HDD).
I need to install freebsd on to my laptop computer.
The question is, is it posible to copy the freebsd patition to the
laptop computer somehow, so it would remain bootable? I tried to copy my
ad0s2(my BSD partition) to ad0s3 on laptop, using dd.exe for windows,
and all i get is Boot error. I'm using freebsd bootloader on desktop,
and BootMagic on laptop, could that be a problem?
any help or suggestions are appreciated.
   



The simple way would be to buy a 2.5 to 3.5 IDE adaptor. Pull the
drive out of the laptop and put it in your desktop to Install FreeBSD.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=2.5%203.5%20IDE%20Adapter


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Thank you for the reply!
I have already been replacing my HDD once, and it's a real problem for 
me to disassemble it, takes hell of a lot of time, so I would like to 
avoid it.
So, is there a way to clone partition from one system to another and 
make it work?
Also, does anyone know, will my laptop netboot(PXE or smth?) from Xircom 
100/10 PCMCIA adapter?
Here's a list of posible ways I'm considering to installing freebsd on 
to my laptop:

1)Buy the toshiba floppy drive(difficult to find in russia...).
2)Boot over the network.
3)Pull the drive out and install BSD on the desktop.
4)Clone partition somehow??
5)Any other way? I know how to install Linux without booting up, is the 
same posible with FreeBSD?

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