devfs rule: ioctl DEVFSIO_SAPPLY: No such process (???)

2006-02-17 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Hi!

I am trying to get the OSS soundsystem working for my nforce2 mainboard since 
yesterday, but with mixed success. The OSS driver is generally setup 
correctly and working, which means osstest outputs the demosound.

My problem now seems to be the devfs, because I am trying to apply the ruleset 
to the audio devices in /dev, so that a normal user can access the sound in 
KDE.

I used the following code for /etc/devfs.rules (which are given in this forum 
thread: http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=710):

[oss_rules=200] 
add path 'dsp*' mode 666 
add path 'mixer*' mode 666 
add path 'audio*' mode 666 
add path 'midi*' mode 666 
add path sequencer mode 666 
add path music mode 666 
add path dmfm0 mode 666

The ruleset should be processed by the oss.sh startscript by calling:

/sbin/devfs rule -s 200 applyset 

but this command only outputs:

devfs rule: ioctl DEVFSIO_SAPPLY: No such process

and nothing happens to the device nodes in /dev. I already tried to play 
around with devfs  devfs.rules, but whatever I tried, either it only gives 
the above error message, or simply gives no feedback and does nothing.

If I run /etc/rc.d/devfs restart, nothing happens.
If I run devfs ruleset 200  devfs rule applyset no feedback, and no change 
in /dev.

I tried a similar approach for changing ownership and perms for /dev/acd* with 
another ruleset, I found on this mailinglist, but exactly the same result.

For some reason unknown to me, devfs seems not be working on my system. I did 
nothing special on this installation. Installed from the 6.0-RELEASE 
install-cd, updated world to 6.1-PRERELEASE, installed the latest OSS driver 
package, configured it for nforce2, osstest OK, installed KDE by ports, and 
now I am stuck to get sound working in KDE...

Any comments?

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How to check status of IBM ServRaid 6i remotely?

2006-02-11 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
I have an IBM eServer 226 with ServRaid 6i U320 SCSI-raid-controller running 
in raid-5 mode.

The appropriate FreeBSD driver is ips.
 
Is there a way of checking the status of that hardware-raid5 remotely?

I could not find any info concerning this matter, but there surely has to be a 
way (how else would you know about a disc gone down, if you are not in the 
vicinity of the server?).

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Re: nforce2 digital audio output support? (or spdif support at all?)

2006-02-09 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Am Montag, 6. Februar 2006 21:54 schrieb FreeBSD Prospect:

 I was searching for more info about support for DOLBY DIGITAL pass-through
 to a digital audio output, but nothing recent came up.
 This matter seems to be a serious shortage in FreeBSD, because the only
 useable info which came up on www.google.com/bsd was concerning NetBSD
 (http://bsd-crew.de/index.php/5.1-Surround-Sound_mit_NetBSD, which is in
 German language). There something of an audio-layer is mentioned.
 Is it really possible, that NetBSD is ahead of FreeBSD in that particular
 matter?
 I have a workstation with Asus A7N8X-deluxe motherboard, which features the
 nforce2 chipset, and has an electrial digital audio output.
 On my first few tests with FreeBSD 6.0 (-RELEASE), after loading the
 snd_ich driver, I got analog sound working, but the digital output was not
 recognized and did not show up in sysctl.
 Any idea, if spdif support is already in -CURRENT, and if not, if somebody
 is working on that issue?

Now that's strange, I really thought, I am not the only one interested in 
being able to use a DOLBY DIGITAL signal output in FreeBSD.

Does really nobody here have a clue?

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FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept)

2006-02-07 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Hi,

Reading a lot about FreeBSD recently made me really curious. I know, that the 
founder of Gentoo (the well known GNU/Linux meta-distribution, which is also 
based on compiling everything from source) was using FreeBSD for some time, 
before continuing creating Gentoo, what's why portage (the Gentoo software 
management system) is generally based on FreeBSD's ports. 
 
FreeBSD is generally seen as being more secure, more stable, has a lot more 
software in ports, and used to be the better choice especially for production 
servers. Now I am wondering, how this is even possible considering the 
following: 
 
 - Portage divides all software into three states: hardmasked, masked 
unstable/testing (~arch) and stable (arch). 
 
 - In ports there is no such difference, which means the lastest software is 
just available using the usual port management features, without the need to 
fiddle around with unmasking something, to be able to install it. In most 
cases (even the usual desktop stuff, like Gnome  KDE) software in ports is 
more up-to-date than in portage. 
 
That means, to be able to compare Gentoo Linux with FreeBSD, you would have to 
run a pure unstable (~arch) Gentoo system, which is generally not 
recommended, and especially not for a production system. 
 
So how is it possible, that FreeBSD is considered to be more suited as a 
production environment, if it runs the latest software-versions, which are 
considered unstable/testing in Gentoo? 
 
How comes, that a FreeBSD system is considered to cause less work do 
administer this way (thinking of regular updates of installed ports, and if 
it's only for security fixes - compare that to the frequent changes in ~arch 
portage)? 
 
And shouldn't a FreeBSD system break more often, if kept up to date on a 
regular basis (this is meant concerning the software installed from ports, 
not the base-system)? 
 
Maybe I am missing something here, or maybe the procedure to get something 
into ports is different (more test in advance by the contributors/devs?), but 
I could not find more info about that matter until now. 
 
Don't get me wrong, I think the portage way with the three different states is 
useful, and the more I read about the ports system in FreeBSD, the less I 
think, ports are superior to portage (at least if you are used to portage and 
USE flags). But hands down, using Gentoo, even a stable (arch) system can 
break from time to time, and a mixture of stable (arch) and unstable/testing 
(~arch) packages may also not be the best approach (try to hold an unstable 
package by using something like =sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre13-r1 and 
see that particular ebuild disappear in favor of newer unstable versions with 
portage complaining about no suitable versions being available for your 
setup). 
 
The FreeBSD way, to split the base system (the OS itself) from addon software, 
is a really good idea, so that the base system can be kept stable and profen 
to be well tested, but I just don't understand, how this is fitting under one 
hat, with having a stable OS  all the lastest add-on software installed. How 
does this work out in the FreeBSD world?

P.S. If interested in upcoming reactions from the Gentoo world, have a look at 
the following forum posting: 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3091579.html

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Re: FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept)

2006-02-07 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 12:10 schrieb a non y mouse:

 FreeBSD Prospect wrote:
  with having a stable OS  all the lastest add-on software installed. How
  does this work out in the FreeBSD world?

 do you install every single piece of third party software onto your
 machine? no... of course not
 3rd party software is just that--it has no relevance to the quality of
 the operating system on which it runs, so i fail to see how it could be
 taken into consideration when evaluating said operating system.
 you are given free will to install or not install any software you wish,
 and in any manner. if you want to compare the level of stability and
 security of an operating system vs. another, fine. but leave it at that.
 whether the ports tree existed or not, you would install certain pieces
 of software if you needed them. this, imo, makes any concept of
 security or stability in the ports tree completely immaterial

In general I am unsure, how a stable production environment is handled in 
FreeBSD due to the lack of dividing new ports in different states.

The approach with different qualification of a software state (stable / 
unstable at least) is a common way to go, as it is handled with the FreeBSD 
OS (release / stable / current). That's why I wanted to know, how everybody 
else is comming along with such a system missing for the ports collection.

What you write about 3rd party software is not exactly meeting the point, 
because you can't run a production environment with just the base system. 
Everybody relies on the additional software, and the whole system can only be 
considered that secure and stable, as it is as a whole. Therefor the add-on 
software has to be taken into consideration about the quality of an OS as 
well, especially because all that software is available using a central 
repository. Doesn't it make sense, to ensure the quality of add-on software, 
if the ports-tree is controlled by the FreeBSD project? Wether if it is in a 
way, like the Gentoo project is handling it, or the OpenBSD project, is a 
different question.

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nforce2 digital audio output support? (or spdif support at all?)

2006-02-06 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Hi!

I was searching for more info about support for DOLBY DIGITAL pass-through to 
a digital audio output, but nothing recent came up.

This matter seems to be a serious shortage in FreeBSD, because the only 
useable info which came up on www.google.com/bsd was concerning NetBSD 
(http://bsd-crew.de/index.php/5.1-Surround-Sound_mit_NetBSD, which is in 
German language). There something of an audio-layer is mentioned.

Is it really possible, that NetBSD is ahead of FreeBSD in that particular 
matter?

I have a workstation with Asus A7N8X-deluxe motherboard, which features the 
nforce2 chipset, and has an electrial digital audio output.

On my first few tests with FreeBSD 6.0 (-RELEASE), after loading the snd_ich 
driver, I got analog sound working, but the digital output was not recognized 
and did not show up in sysctl.

Any idea, if spdif support is already in -CURRENT, and if not, if somebody is 
working on that issue?

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Possibility to submit requests for new ports?

2006-02-06 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Hi!

I was wondering, if there is any communication channel to request new ports.

I mean, isn't it likely, that a FreeBSD user (not a codergeek able to create 
ports himself) is looking for some software, which is available open-source 
for Linux, but hasn't been ported yet?

Wouldn't it be useful, to have an own mailing list for that?

Or is freebsd-ports thought to be suiteable for that matter (I am subscribed 
to that mailing-list, but didn't see much traffic until now, and no port 
requests at all)?

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0: Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop - mouse not working???

2006-01-30 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 18:57 schrieb FreeBSD Prospect:

 Using the GENERIC kernel, USB is enabled (ohci  ehci on an Asus A7N8X
 deluxe motherboard), the mouse is found during boot as follows:

 - cut -
 # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep ums
 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop\M-. 1.00, rev
 2.00/17.17, addr 3, iclass 3/1
 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
 - cut -

Some more digging led me to this bug: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=90162

It is about a similar mouse, but the identification is different (0x0063), and 
keyboard + mouse show up only as one entry due to the wireless receiver).

I applied the first set of patches mentioned in that bugreport, and recompiled 
the kernel, but it did not work (I assume those patches apply especially for 
the MS Wireless Optical Mouse, although I changed the necessary 
identification parts in those patches). The only difference I could observe 
was, that the mouse LED was flickering when moved (instead of beeing steady 
before applying the patch).

In the meantime I found another idea, to try to use the wireless receiver with 
a USB-PS/2 mouse adapter, and that approach indeed worked! So using the PS/2 
connectors for keyboard + mouse for that MS Wireless Optical Desktop seems to 
be the solution.

Nevertheless there is no doubt, that there is a bug in /usr/src/sys/dev/ums.c, 
so I will send a message to the freebsd-usb mailinglist (or should I submit a 
bug-report by myself?).

Sincerely,
Michael

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FreeBSD 6.0: Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop - mouse not working???

2006-01-29 Thread FreeBSD Prospect
Hi!

I just finished my first FreeBSD 6.0 installation using the two CD image 
files, and my first problem is, that I can't get this optical wireless mouse 
to work.

The Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop consists of the receiver, connected to 
the PC by USB (also has a PS/2 connector, but it is not supposed to have both 
connected at the same time, and that connector is only to be connected to the 
keyboard jack), a wireless keyboard and a wireless optical mouse.

The keyboard is working, but the mouse does not do anything (except the LED 
always on).

Using the GENERIC kernel, USB is enabled (ohci  ehci on an Asus A7N8X deluxe 
motherboard), the mouse is found during boot as follows:

- cut -
# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep ums
ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop\M-. 1.00, rev 2.00/17.17, 
addr 3, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
- cut -

usbd + moused get started, /dev/ums0 and /dev/sysmouse are present, but no 
mousepointer and no mouse-reaction.

cat /dev/sysmouse or killing moused  cat /dev/ums0 does not do anything 
while moving the mouse.

It is definitely no hardware-problem, because everything is working just fine 
in WinXP  Gentoo Linux.

I already searched with google, in the bugreports, the mailinglists, 
bsdforums.org  bsdforen.de, and I could find quite some reports about 
similar problems with Microsoft / Logitech and other mice, but no solution 
(some patches were mentioned, but I could not find any success confirmation).

So is there any hope at all, to get that mouse to work properly?

If this is a commonly known issue, I wonder why nobody found a solution yet, 
some reports date back to the year 2003 with some older versions of FreeBSD. 
As I have read, USB support should have been improved in 6.0, and such a 
problem really should not be present any more.

P.S. I was not quite sure, if this is the correct mailinglist to post that 
message in. I am subscribed to 6 FreeBSD-mailinglists ATM, but 
freebsd-questions seems to be the most popular one.

Sincerely,
Michael

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