Re: Virtual Hosting Control Panel

2007-04-06 Thread Jay Gordon

The one I would be a bit afraid of is Plesk...

Why?

Well first the software is a huge pain if you don't have a hefty support 
contract with SWSoft.


Next... they modified their install method recently.  The entire package 
used to contain precompiled binaries of the basic software required such 
as MySQL, Apache, etc... if you are a novice then you will run into some 
issues as they have moved to a ports distributed installation method.


Finally... their ports are broken.  I spent a day trying to figure out 
why Horde failed to install the database properly.  After a lengthy back 
and forth with their support it was finally told that their Makefile for 
two particular ports.  I had to modify manually and finally the software 
installed.


Plesk has it's positives... it's pretty, it gives user end a nice 
interface with options that many other panels might not.  Integration of 
third party software into their install such as Miva Merchant and some 
php applications make it easy for you to provide little bells and 
whistles features for web hosting clients.  Also the ability to 
integrate third party billing systems rather than use their HSPComplete 
is there.  At one point when I was with a itty bitty hosting company we 
had modernbill integrated with the creation utils of Plesk and it made 
for better client management. 

But the negatives are sometimes overwhelming.  Their gui-fied updating 
software fails a lot and can cause serious damage that can require you 
to contact their support which at time is not the quickest to respond.


The other issues mainly have to do with administration faults that have 
to do with tuning specifically with qmail.  Their heavily custom install 
of qmail doesn't allow for much in the way of modification to better tune. 




We actually produce an in house RedHat/FreeBSD based panel called 
easyADMIN which allows a lot of flexibility in administration.  Where it 
may not have the same pretty look as Plesk or the other big boys (ensim, 
cpanel) it makes up for in ease of administration from the web panel and 
the ability to further tune and expand upon it.  If you need to upgrade 
this or upgrade that, you typically can get away with it.  The only 
requirement under FreeBSD right now is running it using 4.11.  We've 
found 4.11 to be quite stable and reliable.  While plans for 6/7 
versions are in the works we've had very few issues with 4.11's EOL 
status.  Our other requirement is perl 5.8.0 as the software is 
dependent on it.  With this we've seen very little client complaints...


Other things to keep in mind when choosing a control panel are...

MTA - is it going to use postfix, qmail, sendmail... which are you the 
most comfortable when it comes to troubleshooting.  If you choose a 
panel which absolutely requires Exim and you know nothing about it, 
troubleshooting larger issues which may be costly from the support of  
the vendor.  Most of these companies that are dedicated to virtual 
hosting control panels rely on the support costs... you are looking at 
times from 75 - 150 per hour.  If you are a person simply running 1 or 2 
boxes this may be less than cost efficient. 

Is it scalable?  Some control panels can allow multiple server 
management from a centralized point.  This can be extremely beneficial 
if your solution grows beyond just one server.


There are a ton of other factors, these are just some of my opinions.



Apatewna wrote:

O/H Apatewna έγραψε:

O/H Marc G. Fournier έγραψε:



Theres always raqdevil (www/raqdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/) 
although

i'm afraid its BSD not GPL Licenced ;)


First thing in favor of it, the BSD license ... second, developed 
under FreeBSD :)




...third it is abandoned http://www.freshports.org/www/raqdevil



*correction* it appears there's a lot of underground work going on for 
raqdevil, I just googled for it 
http://www.raqdevil.com/pipermail/raqdevil-commit/2007-March/37.html




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RE: mail server blues

2007-04-06 Thread Jay Gordon
go with qmail... it rocks

http://www.qmailrocks.org/

it's a damn good mta.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Hartley
Sent: Fri 4/6/2007 5:36 PM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: mail server blues
 
Hello, 

 

I have been going nuts trying to get a remote POP/SMTP mail server to work
on 6.2-RELEASE.  My mx and cnames are hosted at dyndns. I have tried exim,
postfix and sendmail along with courier imap as the pop.  Is there any good
docs that can get me going? 

 

I appreciate any help 

 

Thank You!

 

Brian

 

 

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RE: mail server blues

2007-04-06 Thread Jay Gordon
Agreed... in a worst case situation if you incapable of configuring it due to 
inexperience or just plain out not getting it, there are some pre-built freebsd 
mail software solutions that provide mta, pop/imap and gui interfaces like 
plesk, cpanel, ensim or even atmail.

if you are brave and wanna DIY it... first decide what your needs are.

do you need a system with ease of administration... are you going to have a 
large amount of users?  do users need to be able to have access to webmail?  an 
administration web based panel for adding autoresponders and the like?

with the different mta's you have tried... what exactly went wrong?

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-Original Message-
From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 4/6/2007 8:53 PM
To: Jay Gordon
Cc: Brian Hartley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: mail server blues
 
On 2007-04-06 20:31, Jay Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Hartley wrote:
 Hello,
 I have been going nuts trying to get a remote POP/SMTP mail server to
 work on 6.2-RELEASE.  My mx and cnames are hosted at dyndns. I have
 tried exim, postfix and sendmail along with courier imap as the pop.
 Is there any good docs that can get me going?

 I appreciate any help

 go with qmail... it rocks
 http://www.qmailrocks.org/

 it's a damn good mta.

I don't think qmail is a silver bullet that can solve anyone's
problems, even it it rocked.  What the original poster needs is someone
with enough ``MTA-foo'' to design a mail system which can satisfy his
needs of an email  pop server.

Brian,

are you the one who should install the POP/SMTP mail server?  FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASE along with any one of the MTAs mentioned above (Sendmail,
Postfix, Exim or qmail, coupled with an IMAP/POP) can work pretty well
as an SMTP gateway and IMAP or POP server.

There's no single, One True Reference(TM) which can help you along the
steps of installing an arbitrary combination of the software you are
planning to install, mostly because there are so many combinations it's
literally impossible to describe all of them in one document.

But if you have already tried *some* combination, as you said, and you
have problems making it work, you can always start by describing to the
list what you are trying to do, what steps you took to make it happen,
and what went wrong.  Then we can work through the details of your
particular setup, until what is broken is fixed.

- Giorgos


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Re: Page Faulting Box?

2007-01-23 Thread Jay Gordon
My guess would be bad ram.  I would do a memory test or swap the ram 
out, see if the error happens again.


Jay Chandler wrote:
One of our servers is restarting at random.  Not entirely sure what 
causes it-- hopefully someone here can help me track it down (I 
suspect hardware at some point, potentially the Broadcom NIC).


This is what's in the messages log-- what else can I provide y'all with?

Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel:
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel:
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in 
kernel mode

Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: cpuid = 2; apic id = 06
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault virtual address  = 0x104
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault code = supervisor 
read, page not present

Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: instruction pointer= 0x20:0xc066c731
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: stack pointer  = 0x28:0xe4f99c90
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: frame pointer  = 0x28:0xe4
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: f99c9c
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel:
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: code segment   = base 0x0, 
limit 0xf, type 0x1b

Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel:
Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: processor eflags   = resume, IOPL 
= 0

Jan 22 10:20:58 montreal syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel




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RE: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11 to 6.0

2006-11-14 Thread Jay Gordon
That's the way I would go about it.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Schappell
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:14 AM
To: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: It's time to bite the bullet and do a major upgrade from 4.11
to 6.0

The writing is on the wall and all that stuff. I've put this off long
enough.

What needs to be done to upgrade from 4.11 to 6.x?  I have an extensive
amount of ports installed and in googling and searching the list, it
seems I
need to make a jump to 5.2 then from there to 6.

My thinking is the best way to do this would be to cvsup, do the
rebuilding
of the world thing boot it to the 5 version then cvsup to 6.

The server is continuously backed up so rolling back won't be a problem
if I
need to.

Am I on the right track by doing source upgrades? If so, what
intermediate
jump(s) do I need to make to get from 4.11 to 6?
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