Re: Automatic `nodump' flag?

2008-01-30 Thread Kirk McKusick
 From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:54:02 +0100
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Automatic `nodump' flag?
 
 Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'd like the entire contents of each user's .mozilla/firefox/*/Cache
  directory to be excluded from the regular filesystem dumps.
 
  Running ``chflags -R nodump /home/*/.mozilla/firefox/*/Cache'' does
  the trick, but this needs to be redone daily -- prior to running the
  backup -- because new entries appear in the caches, obviously... The
  new entries don't have the nodump flag set.
 
  Is there a way, the flag can be set automatically? For example,
  inherited from the directory? Thanks!
 
 Hmm, shoudn't whichever backup tool you're using stop when it encounters
 a nodump directory?  You shouldn't need to set nodump on the files
 themselves.
 
 DES
 -- 
 Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The dump program runs on the raw disk partition dumping sequentially
by inode number. So, it has no idea of the file-tree hierarchy. Thus
any propagation of the nodump flag would have to be done by the
filesystem (or by using a different archiving program). It seems to
me that possible changes that could be made would be to update the
semantics of the existing nodump flag to say that if it is set
on a directory, then any new files or directories created within 
that directory would also have the nodump flag set. Or a new
nodumpall flag could be added that when set on a directory would
propagate to any new files or directories created within that
directory. Both of these would be easy to implement.

Kirk McKusick
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Re: Automatic `nodump' flag?

2008-01-30 Thread Kirk McKusick
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:13:54 -0600
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 Kirk McKusick wrote:
 
  The dump program runs on the raw disk partition dumping sequentially
  by inode number. So, it has no idea of the file-tree hierarchy. 
 
 I was just looking at the source to dump, specifically traverse.c and 
 from what I can see, doesn't dump pass #2 scan through all directories 
 and then in the searchdir() function remove a directory's children from 
 the list of inodes to backup if the directory has the nodump flag?
 
 -
 414 if (nodump) {
 415 ip = getino(dp-d_ino, mode);
 416 if (TSTINO(dp-d_ino, dumpinomap)) {
 417 CLRINO(dp-d_ino, dumpinomap);
 418 *tapesize -= blockest(ip);
 -
 
   Barry

You are completely correct. This does prune out everything below a
directory marked `nodump' even if those files are not also marked
`nodump'. Note that by default, level 0 dumps will ignore the
`nodump' flag. You have to use `-h 0' if you want a level 0 dump
to honor the `nodump' flag.

You would think I would remember code that I wrote (though in my
defense it was written over 20 years ago :-)

Kirk McKusick
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