where is 1GB of RAM
new dell server: Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2: Sat Feb 2 22:54:21 CET 2013 r...@s1.3miasto.net.pl:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/s1 amd64 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 V2 @ 3.40GHz (3392.37-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x306a9 Family = 0x6 Model = 0x3a Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x7fbae3ffSSE3,PCLMULQDQ,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Standard Extended Features=0x281GSFSBASE,SMEP,ENHMOVSB TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 34359738368 (32768 MB) avail memory = 33167446016 (31630 MB) where did 1GB of memory go? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best file system for a busy webserver
Does anyone have any opinions on which file system is best for a busy webserver (7 million hits/month)? Is anyone one system noticeably better than any other? Use stock UFS, just configure it properly. most importantly noatime. Amount of cached data is more important than hit count. Unless your webpage is incredibly bad design or constantly load different set of large amount of small file - filesystem shouldn't be a limit. Repetitive file fetches would go from cache. Just curious. I'm getting ready to setup a new box running FreeBSD 9, and since I'm starting from scratch, I'm questioning all my previous assumptions. Small files will be cached, if you push data from large set of big files that will not fit cache, make sure transfers will be fine. use 32kB block size, 4kB fragment size for UFS add options MAXPHYS=2097152 (or even twice of that) to your kernel config so there will be large transfers from disk. This tuning will not make any harm to small files. My recommendation is for serving files by WWW (or actually - by any means). If you ask for SQL database subsystem then answer is completely different: make sure all database fits memory cache, or is on SSD or it WILL BE SLOW no matter what you use. Do everything you can to limit amount of sync writes. if you use SSD and your database software allow dedicating raw partition - do it. If not - it is not crucial but useful, avoid double buffering of unix cache and database cache. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can a jail have link to outside of the jail?
I have an ssh user who needs only to search some log files not in his jail. The jail required because I don't want the user seeing the rest the machine. If the dirs were linked to his jail, would that work? man mount_nullfs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best file system for a busy webserver
OK I would say there's no pressing reason to consider ZFS for this another ZFS fanatics. it is about performance. direction for a filesystem, at 15GB if performance ever becomes a problem a RAID1 of SSDs with UFS would make it fly probably into the hundreds of hits per second range. classic for ZFS and modern things fanatics. lots of talk about high end hardware nothing about a thread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best file system for a busy webserver
the OCZ Vertex IIIs (About $1/G these days) wired into a *hardware* RAID controller setup to mirror them. This gives you blazing speed just like i would read some popular street PC newspaper. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail + clamav + spamassasin config help
the above). At least, that's how I do it. or, you could consider using Postfix. It's much easier to configure and implement content filters. depends of who is talking and how easiness is defined. Postfix is different. That's all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flashplayer expiration mini-mainframes
The Adobe website states that Flashplayer 11.2 will be the last ported to Linux [although it will forever received security updates.] Flashplayer 11.3 I believe is the first to offer 64-bit support. It is rumored here that Opera 12.5 is to be 64-bit - and could be ready now except that Opera is writing their own Flashplayer like plugin. Are we that lucky? no. we are not. We would be really lucky if there would be no way to run flashplayer at all, so nobody would do it, and persuade usage of standard instead of running binary only packages doing unknown things. For movies from youtube use youtube-dl I have been thinking about nearly commodity mini-mainframes for some months what is mini-mainframe? and it appears that FreeBSD is the most well positioned. I have heard that 1 in 6 'PC' server buyers asks their vendor for mainframe functions such as are provided by ia64. Surely ASUS and Supermicro would know that. I do not know how long it takes to write a kernel but I here the Linux camp is whispering that they need an ia64 kernel. FreeBSD must have been optimizing it ia64 kernel for at least 6 years. Is FreeBSD that lucky? And of course I suppose No idea. Nobody serious would buy new ia64 hardware now, assuming it still is possible. No idea how much ia64 kernel is optimized - ask ia64 users if you find one ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS within a Jail?!
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=29968highlight=nfsd Found this which I think says it all at the conclusion. you are truly funny. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS within a Jail?!
Now here is the KEY. No where does it say it has the server side function, only the client side. /usr/ports/net/unfs3 Even if someone proved that it doesn't do NFS server work, i will continue to use it as NFS server, because it works very well ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any one running unfs3
But there is no documentation on how to enable it to start at boot time. The man unfsd doc is useless. if you cannot read - yes. manual is very precise and nothing more is needed. Hoping some one is using this userland version of nfs. yes i am. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS within a Jail?!
Since your the expert on unfs3 because you have it working, would you share some technical configuration information with us? Such as What statements do you have in the host:server and remote:client /etc/rc.conf to auto start them at boot time? in client - as with any NFS, use kernel klient. on server - just run unfsd anywhere, like /etc/rc.local Do you really cannot use any program without rc.d script? ;) How do you disable the kernel nfs version so it don't interfere with unfs3? Just don't enable it in /etc/rc.conf You may have it in kernel. i did, now i don't. both works. What does your export file look like on both the host:server and remote:client sides. as described in manual of unfsd. basics are same, details are not. Then about unfs3 performance; how many concurrent remote:clients do you service? Doe's access elapse time get longer as more concurrent over 60 but not high load clients so performance doesn't matter. That's X terminals booting over NFS. Sometimes i do more - example is net-booting windoze PC to be able to do some recovery OR backup large amount of data to server. There is no practical performance difference in that settings. BUT - do make configure, then search where fsync is called and comment it out. Right - not conformant, but the performance difference on writes are enormous. Unless you do such a stupid things like running database servers over NFS, you don't need this conformance. Just do it. Do you run unfs3 in a jail on both the host:server and remote:client sides? Not now. but tried. unfs doesn't need ANY special kernel calls. It runs just like any program using UDP/TCP communication. jail/no jail doesn't make a difference. As with most programs. In kernel point of view it is just a program that use TCP/IP stack and open/read/write/readdir/etc. Nothing else. Are there any sysctl nob settings needed to make unfs3 run in a jail? as above. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any one running unfs3
Hoping some one is using this userland version of nfs. yes i am. What manual are you referring to? The man unfsd does not contain any information about what statements to put in /etc/rc.conf to get unfs3 started at boot time. because manual doesn't contain info about rc.d scripts. this is normal. unfsd port doesn't give you rc.d script. add your own if you need it so much, otherwise just run it with options as described in manual. put it in /etc/rc.local to start at every boot. no real need to perform special shutdown of it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS within a Jail?!
Many thanks in advance. Quick answer is No, NFS only runs on the host system. but user space nfsd works. in ports - unfsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
Of course ZFS doesn't need fsck. Until it fails. Did you personally try ZFS ? of course. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
I think it's likely that it is a 64-bit installation. Not sure about that. How could the amd64 OS be installed and run on a i386 machine? it cannot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
Needing fsck because the drive is failing and not able to store and retrieve data reliably any more is a whole different thing. or bad data stored because of non-disk errors. least will discover that this is happening due to the built-in checksumming and avoid many instances of silent corruption. What it can't do is take a filesystem containing random errors and reconstruct a pristine version from it. But then what filesystem can? the question is how much can. Anyway ok i will not try anymore to stop you from your ZFS religion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's an i686 CPU. By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working. So I tried both: you've got into wrong directory /usr/src/sys/i386/conf is right /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf is wrong, unless you have 64-bit CPU which you don't cpu I586_CPU and: cpu I686_CPU this is right setting. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC Jason: It looks like you may have installed the 64-bit distribution on your nonsense. 64-bit distribution doesn't run on 32-bit computer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
English is not my native language, so i can make mistakes. ZFS is the way to go if you need consistency + speed on a NFS server/service. Of course ZFS doesn't need fsck. Until it fails. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting raw disk backup file.
I had a drive fail recently, it was working fine until I rebooted. After that the partition map was corrupt and I can't mount either partition on the disk. So I made a copy of the whole disk using dd to an old USB drive. There were several IO errors while dd was copying the disk, so I think the disk is starting to go. did you use conv=sync,noerror. if not your backup is quite corrupted if errors were uncorrectable. So, any suggestions? repair partition table, use mdconfig and then you will get /dev/md0 /dev/md0s1... as with real drive ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing details
I am absolutely new to FreeBSD and would like a simple 'by the hand' explanation of how to install and use FreeBSD on a Pc. I tried to follow the info from its website but explanations seem too cryptic for me to understand properly. I'd like to try it on a empty partition of my hard drive, alternatively a memory stick/CD/DVD will also do. Appreciating any help. PS - I am a regular Windows user. so stick with it if you didn't read handbook and instalation manual which is NOT cryptic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
Hi Ashkan, I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. true. it is consistently slow. REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements. Look at L2ARC and ZIL to improve ZFS speed. it's far better to just put manually heavily used things to SSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
i have 16tb storage. 8x2tb sata raided. i want to share it on network via nfs. which file system is better for it? thank you badly imprecise question. you may share any filesystem. Not sure what you want to achieve. No explanation of raided - this means nothing without precise description. If you ask what i do commonly then i would do 8 gmirror-based RAID1 volumes, and standard UFS filesystem on each with softupdates (or softupdates+journal). And move as much as possible software directly to machine. Never create another level of indirection (like NFS) when not needed. if you really HAVE to use NFS heavily i strongly recommend using unfsd from ports and patch if to AVOID constant fsync, and make sure UPS is installed. NFS protocol is terrible by design (not by implementation) resulting in all writes being done synchronously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
are showing me. Read performance OTOH is strange, zpool and systat both reporting consistently an aggregated read speed of around 120MB/s during the block read tests (which seems a bit slow for the drives - and indeed systat reports the drives at less than 50% utilisation) but bonnie is only reporting 35MB/s, I see similar discrepancies with simple dd block reads to /dev/null, in which case my stopwatch agrees with dd. no it is not wrong. Do more tests (possibly your own doing heavy mixed workload) to understand well why you should not use this last word in filesystems. Discover it alone. I told already enough about it but it results in attacks from ZFS (and general new technology) fanatics. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
be well within patent law to apply for a patent. The patent office has never been very good at examining software patents, and I have made a lot of money helping companies document the prior art not cited in patents that are being asserted against them. good there are people that helps. Bad that there are patents at all. Not just in software. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
First surprise, with only 4GB I had set primarycache=metadata, you mean 4 GIGABYTES of memory is ONLY? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me. Do is ZFS supposed to be faster at all? really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
If the rest of the world thought like you we would still be trying to invent the wheel. ??? what wheel. UFS is already invented. For LONG time. And UFS+softupdates works great. much better than new trash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best. Yes UFS is very good, but very hight IO ZFS is fastest if you use L2ARC/ZIL on SSD. if... better just move heavy used things on SSD and rest on HDD. really it's fastest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. true. it is consistently slow. REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements. There is no tale, only a feature set: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Features And everything everyone writes is always true. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
Let's also hope that most patents that could harm us (should there be some lurking out there) will have expired by then. True. As most technology that ever microsoft invented is a quickly reengineered or just stoled things that was already done many years before in many other systems, very often BSD, then it is not a problem Unless Congress pulls a Mickey Mouse Protection Act-lookalike on patents by extending them just as they did with Copyright. then it will still hit USA users only. FreeBSD master site can simply be moved. But as usual with Congress, I wouldn't hold my breath: they aren't exactly known for enacting reasonable and sensible laws. No government is known for that. but that's off topic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
Do lawyers not use the law to their clients' advatage -- often abusing it -- just because they're wrong in the final analysis? seems you never worked long with lawyers, or you are lucky and have really fair one. If the word fair can be used for lawyers at all. Most often they just want court cases to have work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cant boot 9-RELEASE on Intel L440GX+ based system
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS drive A: is disk0 all suggestions before seems like not reading your problem description. third stage boot loader fails. at that stage it still uses BIOS calls to access disks. Your controller's firmware do something wrong, or FreeBSD bootloader do something wrong. I suggest you to prepare bootable media with just /boot directory that can boot, and put vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:yourrootpartition in loader.conf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
It is possible that Microsoft is going the way of SCO -- into its grave, true. Microsoft know it is falling. People got fed up with microsoft. They now want even worse and more dumb software and hardware. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
dumb software and hardware. You do realize that, that statement can be construed as a condemnation of non-Microsoft software, AKA open-source? don't generalize everything. There are good software, bad software, closed source software, open source software. There are great open source software and complete trash open source software. now market is completely filled with personal computers and laptops, now people want to get smartphones, tablets, whatever where microsoft already lost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
this should not be ignored; sooner or later things will get nasty ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/25/microsoft_patent_deal_amdocs/ The sooner FreeBSD gets rid of Linux-based software (apps, tools) in its ports, the better. The FB Foundation and Core Team should enact a plan. ports are not software itself. ports are set of tools to build/install someone else software. FreeBSD doesn't force you to install any ports, and core system doesn't consist of linux software at all. It is not the FreeBSD and core team responsibility of what ports you are using. Appropriate licence files are put in ports tree. This should actually happen regardless of MS in the shadows and validity of their claims. Why? Core system and ports are two clearly separate things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
This is a scan of ports with linux keyword: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linuxstype=all It looks somewhat silly to have to rely on those Linux-whatever things to be a functional FreeBSD OS ... still you are talking on ports. In what base system rely on linux? It made a first imporant step with clang/clang++ and associated libc/c++ to counter GPL trickery; there could be done much more to eliminate Linux-based software. #cd /usr/src/gnu/ #ls usr.bin lib lib: Makefilecsu libgcc libgomp libreadline libssp libsupc++ Makefile.inclibdialog libgcov libodialog libregex libstdc++ usr.bin: Makefilecc diffgdb groff sdiff texinfo Makefile.inccvs diff3 gperf patch send-pr binutilsdialog dtc greprcs sort on my clang-free FreeBSD 9 system. do not exaggerate. clang move is already too early and IMHO wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
even if not it's just matter to add proper licence to right ports in port tree and require user to accept it. Probably won't even have to do that. People can download, compile and run whatever they want on a base operating system, but as long as the base operating system (FreeBSD in our case) remains legally un-encumbered with patented code, nobody really cares. If individual users decide they want to compile and run copyrighted software on FreeBSD (or linux) it will be a matter between M$ and the particular user in question, not the community providing the base OS and user space tools. this is exactly what i meant. FreeBSD users should be happy about that situation as linux is far more media-popular and screens other free unices from attacks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PCI BAR mmap
Hi, How to mmap PCI BARs from userland in freebsd? In Linux the PCI BAR appears as a file in the sysfs file system. How can I access PCI BAR as a file in freebsd to mmap it? if you know the adress (pciconf tool, or by system call i think) then map portion of /dev/mem /dev/mem equals to physical addresses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD
HDD Memory : 750 GB SSD Memory : 8 GB I wish to install FreeBSD on it, but I wanted to ask this beforehand : Would it would be possible to install it on the 8 GB SSD sector ? no idea how seagate momentus XT work. AFAIK it tries to automatically move often used things to flash. so install normally. Would it work, and how would FreeBSD generally handle the SSD share of the memory ? Thank you, V. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On-access AV scanning
His problem is that there's a corporate reglementation of what he has to do, which he needs to obey in order to the only cure for such case is changing a job. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD
by the disk unit's firmware itself. (I'm not even sure it works without software drivers, judging by the funny little pictures...) yes it works without any drivers other than standard SATA driver. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On-access AV scanning
the only cure for such case is changing a job. A little drastic perhaps? Company policies can be changed[*]. depends on the company. But i assumed attempt to point out nonsense of such policy were already done. [*] It's important that the workers believe this. It helps keep them in line. true and proven. but my point was that if policy is just nonsense (requirement of virus protection in spite of using virus-incapable OS) and still enforced in spite of this then No matter if it is 5 users of 80 users (largest i have to control in one place) then the policy should be think what you are doing, and do your work at work, not your toys. Believe me that having 2-3 virus problems per year, with no spreading, WITH WINDOWS USERS, and windows workstations running few years without touching is possible. It's simple, but off topic to explain in details. PS make in every shared (used by many people) samba share a directory Autorun.inf, owned by root with access rights of 700. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD
You're going to install FreeBSD as on any other hard disk. You will then (hopefully) see a speed gain when in use. :-) make sure noatime option is used in /etc/fstab i use it everywhere, but with SSD cached disks it may be even more important. No idea what is that drive caching strategy, but if cache on read then it will continuously evict cached inodes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on SSD
The read-cache idea is very sound, mainly because by using it this way Seagate would not have to create a special set of instructions for installing and using the HDD. I don't think that this drive cache is smart enough to really cache needed things and not flush that cache with useless data too often. i personally would prefer that drive to show up as 8GB disk and 750 GB disk. It would be easy to fit most of /usr in 8GB with even large set of software installed. when out of space then use softlinks and move not very used things (eg. documentation, non-yours locales, examples, some linarly accessed big files etc.) to disk. My final question would be : Seeing as the HDD only has a SATA connector, this would mean that the SSD part already has a memory control device that regulates access to that sector, whether it is a plain read-cache or not. This would imply that FreeBSD could communicate with the HDD normally, through the SATA connector, just like any regular HDD. indeed. Such a drive is a good idea, but complete lack of documentation (how it operate) is not. You have to guess how this SSD-cache works because it is not documented. the other thing is erasing data. You want to sell that drive and clear your data by dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m but does it clear SSD cache? i don't think so. Someone sophisticated enough would perform raw read of cache chips and get cached data, which can actually be the most important part (things you work on often). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: acroread9 makes CPU spin (busy loop?)
I'm wondering if it's just here or if other people also observe that acroread9 makes the CPU spin at 100% (one load point), as if in a busy loop. This happens for me on 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT alike (amd64), with not me - i use xpdf. Free, open source, much faster. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
A few things you could try adding to make.conf: FORCE_MAKE_JOBS=yes MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=4 I'm not sure this is supported on a _single_ core Pentium 4 CPU (or will gain speed if it was emulated). MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=2 make sense - one process I/O may overlap with other compute ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On-access AV scanning
Are there any current options available to support on-access antivirus scanning on FreeBSD? FreeBSD doesn't need this as there are no viruses on that system. And yes, I know that neither FreeBSD nor Solaris are renowned for their sickly vulnerability to viruses, but we operate in a mixed environment, with a lot of Windows machines and ZFS file systems exported by SMB/CIFS, so we need the AV to ensure any viruses are stopped before they infect a susceptible machine. It seems a small price to pay to finally get a decent workstation! No idea - YOU will not spread wiruses, and viruses from other winstations will not affect you. so just install antivirus software on winstations. Or finally educate users as it is really simple to avoid viruses even with windows ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: On-access AV scanning
I did some testing several years ago with ClamAV, Sophos and McAfee (scanning incoming mail), and ClamAV was comparable to McAfee in detection rates - over 98%. i use clamav for mail virus checking and IMHO it is the only place where realtime virus checking make sense. some windows users have NOD32 antivirus and i never got a case that NOD32 detected email virus after clamav filter. Of course this is all windows only problem, unix doesn't have viruses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
Saying that geli's CBC implementation is good enough for someone seems to imply that it's somehow worse than XTS in general. Could you true. i still don't really understand the difference. I don't need actually anything other that inability to read data from my disk for a potential thief. The rationale of the change isn't clear to me either. Until recently I wasn't aware of the performance impact, though. It is huge 5-8 times depending if you have hardware acceleration or not. AES-CBC is fast enough so encrypting SSD drives make sense. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
2. Try switching to clang, it has lower memory requirements and compilation this is simply not true. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
'CBC' -- [C]ypher [B]lock [C]hainig -- is well-suited for strictly -sequential- data access. Try reading the blocks of a large (say 10gB) file in *reverse* order and see what kind of performance you get. how about randomio test on geli encrypted ramdisk? AES-CBC still 3 times faster ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geli - selecting cipher
If you don't need to detect modifications/insertions/deletions that yes i don't. i just want data to be unreadable for thieves in case of robbery. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to speed up port make??
is it possible to speed up port make ?? i want to install openbox and xorg on a Pentium 4 and 2gb ram, compiling xorg takes about 2 hours Humorous answer: Yes - get a more powerful computer. Robert Huff real answer - get binary packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Stable production version.
I finally decided to take off my FreeBSD 7.2 server which is onlin esince 2009. I will go for a new FreeBSD version and will move out all data. you mean just new freebsd or new server? if first there is no need to move data at all Which version do you recommend? Shall I go for 9 ? or 8.3 is still more fit for a production and bsns server ? i use 8.3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
geli - selecting cipher
i need high speed disk encryption (many disks running in parallel, lots of data movement). i have processor with AES-NI. geli give 150MB/s performance (tested from/to md ramdisk) using default and recommended AES-XTS and ca 400MB/s read and 700MB/s write using AES-CBC. I'm not cryptography expert, is CBC somehow less secure, and if so is it really a problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb identity issue
what problems? Attach kernel output messages please. Woj... The thumb/flash drive is showing in the dmesg as ad1 but it is not available to use. da1 or ad1? what exactly not available to use means? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Disk Errors
Just curious, I am sure the likely issue is a bad disk, but I thought there actually not that likely. i had such problems, occuring randomly on many drives, and all problems disappeared after changing computer, with the same disk. BTW i would recommend you to turn on AHCI driver ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=817755328 ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=837397120 ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=879786112 ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=882931200 ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=890542016 ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=902767296 ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=904071296 dmesg info about the drive at connection time: ad4: 953869MB Seagate ST31000528AS CC46 at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s dmesg info about one of the western digital drives: ad4: 953869MB WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1 80.00A80 at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s Before I scrap the drive I just wanted to see if anyone could either say for sure its hardware, or if something else could possibly cause this. I don't suspect the controller, cable or dock as the problems would likely occur with the western Digital drives as well if one of them were involved. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?
And USB 2.0 hard limit is 60MB/s. i have never seen USB 2.0 exceeding 35MB/s write and 40MB/s read. even when connecting SATA disk over USB-SATA bridge. 60MB/s is wire speed. USB have enormous protocol overhead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?
However, after formatting it in Windows why duplicate it again in FreeBSD? It serves no purpose that I am aware of. By the way, it is too bad that FreeBSD is not able to take advantage of the exFat format fusefs-exfat in ports still i don't really care, i would reformat in as FAT32 anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?
Format without partition table? yes. Windows recognizes it properly except Win98/95 (which doesn't work with large USB drives anyway). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?
What I previously meant is that I had such pendrive, that without former formatting in Windows, didn't even show up as device in FreeBSD- was completely useless. the result of XXI century way of programming - flash translator firmware in that case. They don't even read specs about USB storage, just it is fine if it works (seems to work) in windoze. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
I could have provided specifics 25 years ago :) when I was involved with this stuff on a daily basis. I have no idea whether it was same as me. still it is off topic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb identity issue
I am having problem getting usb plug in /flash drive to come up on FreeBSD * several boxes with different versions of FreeBSB os I have 3 boxes for testing here at my shop. maybe it's late but i cannot really understand what you mean. what problems? Attach kernel output messages please. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare
Good luck with your nightmare. if i would be in his case i would first not touch it and then slowly analyze EVERYTHING that is used on that system, and ask users how exactly they use it (i mean shared folders etc). Then i will step by step fix things to proper state, waiting for complaints after each step. if former admin did such things with permissions certainly he did many more stupid things. Certainly few things MUST be just done completely differently, not just different permissions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
system. I'm not sure if such a tool could operate on devices (instead of filesystem-based representations as drive letters), but it actually _was_ a DOS-based copy convert utility for the PC. :-) MSDOS/PCDOS had -no- O/S functions to directly access actual disk devices. The ONLY fuctionality provided to the user, by the O/S can we finally stop this off topic thread? it was about fsck on FAT32 filesystem UNDER FREEBSD (because it is in freebsd-questions). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?
which actually works with FreeBSD just ripped from package! (normal _empty_ FAT filesystem, no garbageware added, no need to format). zero difference. newfs_msdos take a moment. It actually bounces from 40MB/s limit when reading from it. Writing is about 18MB/s. Device is supposed to be 467x which should be about 70MB/s. don't treat all advertised data seriously And USB 2.0 hard limit is 60MB/s. Wouldn't be nice to squeeze few additional MB/s? how did you measured it. dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null bs=64k ? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k via msdosfs via mtools ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AES NI
ignore its GNU/Linux orientation and go for the numbers: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_aesni_intel seems just like popular sites are providing strange untrue data. site says 2-3 times improvement at most, exactly what i found. -- Mihai Don?u ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
It seems like all you know how to do is engage in ignorant, uninformed, personal attacks/insults. if you would read more carefully then you will see clearly that i am personally attacked most often. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
Seriously though, I wish people would stop feeding this TROLL. There is absolutely no upside to it. As has been stated so eloquently many times before, Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. so why you are continuing that thread? People like you tend to classify others as a troll because you just don't agree. sad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update
I've done fsck -F in single user mode but there are warnings about not being able to fix this. without the messages from fsck i cannot help you. there are rare cases when mess gets written to inodes that fsck will not corrent it and you have to do it yourself. most often - using clri(8). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update
how about fsck_ffs -y / in single user mode? seems like no clri is needed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Power failure during portsnap fetch update
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org It fixed the problem :-) you may risk putting fsck_y_enable=YES in your rc.conf i put background_fsck=NO in /etc/rc.conf too ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X server already running on display :0
At the prompt I give the command startx I get a message that /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 does not exist. Copy the file from another system and I get copying files instead of installing packages isn't bright idea, unless you copy complete /usr/local tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X server already running on display :0
Copy the file from another system and I get X server already running on display :0 /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: Can't open /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: File or catalog does not exist this is an answer i think ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
xdm and gdm
i run xdm normally. after logging it runs my $HOME/.xsession that starts things like fvwm2 i wanted to run gnome-session once, changed fvwm2 to /usr/local/bin/gnome-sessions after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea where to seek error messages at all. with gdm loading gnome works. any ideas? (except: just use gdm please) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xdm and gdm
Is this a typo? According to the Handbook, /usr/local/bin/gnome-session (without trailing 's') should be executed. indeed a typo. thank you. after loggin in it just exits. no .xsession-errors is created. no idea where to seek error messages at all. Maybe errors are reported to the 1st virtual terminal where the XDM process outputs its messages to (currently not running xdm, so I can't check). there are imho nowhere. Do you have gdm_enable=YES gnome_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, and /proc mounted, as suggested in the Handbook? Maybe gdm has some preparations that aren't found by gnome-session when started autonomously. But the Handbook says it works without gdm is fine and works. the problem is that i wasn't able to my non-gnome .xsession work properly with gdm at all. at the same time i like xdm and want to use, RARELY use it to run gnome. Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gvirstor - any production users here?
from manual page it seems good. But is it actually stable? How one can free unused space from gvirstor device? (eg. i made a partition and don't need it any more). thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED: xdm and gdm
adding DisplayManager*authName:MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 solves the problem. Do you have any data about preparations that gdm do? The Handbook mentions /proc to be mounted, but that's not related. The settings gdm_enable=YES gnome_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf would (if I understand the mechanism correctly) correspond to scripts /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gnome respectively. So any possibly relevant preparations should be done by those scripts. I can't check those as I haven't got Gnome installed here. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: find USB v2.0 physical ports on the computer
During the boot process I get these messages. I want to find the physical USB v2.0 ports on the computer box. How can I do this? usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 but trying only. plug any USB device and look at kernel output to what usbus it was attached. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb plugin msg class
In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some messages on the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show up on my i run 9.0 and after i plug any USB device kernel output messages as usual. It always get displayed on first console (ttyv0), the rest depends on your syslog config. Did the message class of those usb plug-in message change between 8.x and 9.x? IE as defined in /etc/syslog.conf If their in a new class what is it? what you mean console. what kernel displays on first console does not depend on syslog. turn off syslog and it will be displayed too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. which may be a proof that governments know backdoors alloving recovery from encrypted drives using builtin hardware encryption (FDE). Not that easy with geli ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
AES NI
am i doing something wrong? i have processor with AES-NI support. I've seen a lot of tests showing AES encryption performance to be in order of 1GB/s or more. actual #mdconfig -a malloc -s2g #geli init -s 4096 /dev/md0 #geli attach /dev/md0 #dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/md0.eli dd: /dev/md0.eli: short write on character device dd: /dev/md0.eli: end of device 32768+0 records in 32767+1 records out 2147479552 bytes transferred in 14.199564 secs (151235598 bytes/sec) #dd if=/dev/md0.eli of=/dev/zero bs=64k 32767+1 records in 32767+1 records out 2147479552 bytes transferred in 13.201660 secs (162667389 bytes/sec) so 150-160MB/s still faster than encryption without AES-NI but quite a slow. data from kernel CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz (3100.03-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x206a7 Family = 6 Model = 2a Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x17bae3ffSSE3,PCLMULQDQ,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XSAVE,AVX AMD Features=0x28100800SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant aesni0: AES-CBC,AES-XTS on motherboard GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
Indeed. But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without no idea what are you talking about. For your own use you don't need anyones certification. You need safe solution. geli just do this. As for any government agencies and corporations why you care about their problems? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help solving the sysadm's nightmare
administrators had no idea what they were doing, so problems with a permission denied would be solved by chown -R 777 /whatever! Needless to say, great. rm -rf /whatever would be even better! it's a mess, and ofcourse everything is critical there is no room for interruption of service. Now, I have no idea which processes actually require access to those files, what privileges these processes run with and which files are actually executable or just plain files. i can only help you with base system and ports permissions, and /var and /etc just look how it should be What I know is that lots of files are on samba shares and lots of files are used by uniface9 application, but I don't know much about uniface or if this is actually executed on the client or on the server. look at samba config to check as what user directories are accessed. set it as such user and chmod 700 is enough. At this moment my project is to migrate servers with these permissions to new servers, but those who prepared the OS have maintained the permissions from the older version because it's easier than actually investigating or understanding what's going on and find a solution. *sigh* So, how can I - determine if files are actually unix executables or just plain files (or windows executables)? man file - determine which users actually need read or write access to these files? depends on software lsof will not help you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
developed countries. Not really sure what you wanted to imply, as SMB looks like americanism to me. as well as SOHO. As not the first time, some people here when lacking arguments say i work for larger company. We have more servers in one place. Esp. second is nopt something to be proud about. more and more such people, and complete newbies or IT specialists dominate this forum. sad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. no. for modern hard drives it was already proved that dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1m is enough to make data unreadable. for very old drives it may not ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
entitled to have opinions, *BUT* the Gospel According to Wojciech is -not- 'the answer' for everybody, in every situation. *IF* you ever learn that, Seems like you have 45 years of experience in words. nothing more. Aggression is normal today from such people, that have good position in some companies and fear anyone could read any other than established opinions. That's all. Still I already see FreeBSD future is to get fd up completely, as such people tend to dominate such a forum. The question is how long. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
Otherwise, you may run the danger of building a wall around yourself. everyone should judge by his/her own brain which opinions are right. Actually in every moment i try to encourage EVERYONE to turn on his/her brain that we all have but rarely use. To be ever able to use ones brain properly all widely known truth, standard practices etc.. should be forgotten at least for a moment. Mantras are always against clear thinking and understanding. The most important repeated mantra i am righting is that FreeBSD (or any Free unix) should be easier to newbies. This already killed linux long time ago, NetBSD too, and going to kill FreeBSD. Most of newbies are not the ones that are likely to learn anything. They want click-click interface to install and run something so they can add FreeBSD knowledge to their CV. They can do ONLY harm to FreeBSD. Some get hired and results in problems described in thread Help solving the sysadm's nightmare for the man hired after them.. While it is not a case here, I have seen few people on other lists to do the same just because they were not able to comprehend a topic discussed, and in frustration they killfiled the person involved. it's still nothing wrong to add a rule to redirect someones (mine) mail to /dev/null, but the way they do this: - showing whole world they do this - showing whole world their .procmailrc (so happy they finally learnt procmail?) - performing personal attacks every time they disagree. Doesn't look like serious people's behavior. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
for very old drives it may not Would you be so kind as to point out the proof of that statement? sorry but i didn't save that article on hard drive. So no proof if you don't believe me i've actually read it. The main point is that you have - track - intra-track gap - finite precision of writing head positioning. When you write on track second time, head isn't positioned exactly as before so very thin stripe of previous recording remain. With sophisticated enough tools you may recover it, requiring like 10 times smaller head than normal. With modern drives size of magnetic domains are larger than this imperfection. If drive record properly this stripes of leftover recording are just too small to be stable. Even if it would, no hardware exist to do this, except maybe scanning electron microscope which would take years to scan whole surface of disk IMHO. Not sure if it can see surface magnetization as i don't precisely know how such microscope works. But i know it needs some time to scan even tiny thing. Please provide an address or location where the documentation supporting that statement can be found. By the way, NOT READABLE is not equal to UNRECOVERABLE. yes i know the difference. Finally i am not sure if bulk erases can actually erase drives, for sure they can destroy disk electronics so disk appears cleared. The field needed to clear modern magnetic media are just enormous. They are enormous under normal operation of disk, but power is small as track width is defined in nanometers. If it would be my data to be erased i would just do dd if=/dev/zero of=disk bs=.. or if really paranoid then after this dd if=/dev/urandom of=disk bs=.. or if very paranoid then will just put that drives into fireplace, which would heat them over curie point which would definitely demagnetize whole media. more sure than bulk eraser, and definitely secure, for free. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD
ports lately and not everyone can or wants follow all the patches flying around, I'd like to share that the Linux binary build runs fine for me. I downloaded Linux' x86 tar package, did tar xf to get RPMs and finally: for i in *rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -ivd; done That created opt/libreoffice3.5. You can move where you like and start it using libreoffice3.5/program/soffice. (I'm tracking 9-STABLE with Linux compatibility enabled it this matters.) May this help someone lazy or impatient like me... what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD
what's wrong in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3 Oracle oracle donated everything to apache foundation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
can add FreeBSD knowledge to their CV. That statement goes beyond stupid. At some point, everyone is a You proved well enough about what stupid means. esp your mail carmel...@hotmail.com that's truly a mail address that System Admin should be proud of ;) At least you don't worry about backups. Hotmail (or gmail or else) do archive everything you ever sent or received so you don't fear data loss. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
How about data stored in remapped sectors, or any flash cache? how about being able to restore random 0.1% of former user data. Not really useful. Flash cache is quite recent idea, nobody serious would like to scrap such a drive instead of reuse. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
agencies recover overwritten data? at http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html at first - it should be asked can agencies recover your data without being overwritten first. just use geli(8) then second problem is even less problem. Finally use geli (or similar method) ALWAYS, no matter if you have highly important data, naked girls photos or just games. Just to say NO to any government agencies that terrorize you using your own money. At least in Poland you are not required by law to provide any passwords. Encryption is legal. At second - the basic claim that overwriting 1 with 1 differs from overwriting 0 with 1 at magnetization level is quite a proof of lack of understanding physics. Hint: magnetic hysteresis. What hard drive manufacturers want is to use magnetic material with largest hysteresis so difference between one and zero is highest. Can all paranoid here finally put their hard drives to fire so they will heat over curie point, and then - end that offtopic? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
lpd+samba question
is there any simple way to get data about workstation that prints using lpd from samba? what i need is to get IP/name of workstation that queued a print job to lpd subsystem through samba. or is the only way to change everything to print to lpd directly using lpd protocol? quite a bit of work but possible. I want to do accounting, not just how many pages are printed on each printer (done), but WHO printed it. No problem for local user, but not with samba. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD
The only good thing they seem *not* to have screwed with is VirtualBox. not really. The backend part of virtualbox is great. The frontend with is UUIDS for everything, XML and other trash is plain terrible. But still - nothing better exist for the need now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: lpd+samba question
I didn't try by myself, but what about something like print command = /usr/bin/lpr -P%p -J%J -U%I -r %f in smb.conf? I'm sorry to say that you additionally probably have to change /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c near line 87 to #define OTHER_USERID_CHARS -_. /* special chars valid in a userid */ and to recompile lpd: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr make clean make install This is exactly what i asked for. Thank you very much for help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache vs. nginx
I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. it depends of your needs. with lot traffic website (your classify as that) it doesn't matter really. apache do some things that nginx doesn't, like .htaccess, no idea if you need them or not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
It appears I was mistaken. Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. first - it is off topic. second - because all commercial software like that are designed for uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a danger not help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
