Re: Audio Production
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Timm Wimmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: m cassar schrieb: Does anyone here use freebsd for serious audio/video production work? or know if there is some kind of community? Didn't try it, but http://ardour.org/ looks like what you are looking for. See http://www.freshports.org/audio/ardour/ -- Timm thanks but this wasn't exactly what i was asking about in the original post. ardour *is* in ports, as with most other good open-source audio applications ( and propbably the best program out there - though i'm new) but what i was looking for is related to custom/optimizted kernels either known as low-latency or real-time kernels in linux; to help reduce recording latencies, audio dropouts, etc. like studio 64 rt-kernel on ubuntu, planet ccrma on fedora. what i was trying to find out is whether there is such projects on freebsd, or more importantly, if freebsd kernel had the potential to be similarly optimized. (not that i myself have any expertise, [hence my question]) on the other hand, if you are interested in audio programs, ardour is good, hydrogen is good and fun. not to mention easy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio Production
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Oliver Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:23:16PM +0200, m cassar wrote: Does anyone here use freebsd for serious audio/video production work? or know if there is some kind of community? i have seen ubuntu studio for a general idea outside windows/osx, but prefer fbsd over linux. and found most programs in ports, but i would like to find out more about kernel optimization in that respect and what goes into that type of dedicated setup. i am running 7-stable with a custom kernel, where i only added vesa, and removed some scsi and network drivers i don't have from the generic kernel, but i figure there must be more settings to tweak than what i saw there in the generic file. would there be more settings somewhere else or would you add them to the kernconf file? I think it does not depend on your kernel configuration - checkout the portstree for the software you need: % cd /usr/ports % make search key=$MY_MULTIMEDIA_SOFTWARE Furthermore you should checkout the hardware/release notes for 7.0 and/or 7.1: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html my setup works fairly decent for desktop use, but seems kinda sluggish with even basic multimedia. IMO FreeBSD is not made for that kind of multimedia machine - it's not about the software, it's more about the drivers. FreeBSD has a focus on network and stability, not to support your brandnew 7:1 soundhardware or the latest ATI SLI graphics card for $500... I prefer FreeBSD over Linux as well, but I think you should go for a dual-boot installation. :) I've heard very good things about Ubuntu Studio and believe that the hardware support for your needs is better. ok, I see what you mean with freebsd's main focus (stability,etc), i just thought it was just 'younger' than linux(es) for desktop and that type of use, but had the potential and would get there eventually; also considering that the user community could gradually grow from here, meaning more feature demands for end users and also more potential developers, i.e. new users with the expertise. And from my end, since i don't have a crucial need for a production system at the moment, and just a hobby, i could stick to it instead of linux and see it deveope in that way, and learn more about what goes under the hood. I got this impression since i had a pcbsd install on another disk and it had slightly better performance than my fbsd 7, which i only wanted to get up and running asap and kinda sloppy. (pcbsd 1.5.1, with base 6.3, which i think doesn't fully support dual cores). coincidently, i installed ubuntu studio this morning, but i still feel 15mins there is 15mins away from fbsd, especially if it is a matter of tweaking and such. BTW, and related to fbsd kind of being younger than linux, i had an amd64 version at some point, of freebsd, and couldn't install wine because it is based on 32bit windows or what have you. it works on ubuntu studio (64) fine and i am also under the impression that anything linux can do, freebsd can do; and it's just a matter of time. I'm just glad i didn't have to wipe fbsd to install ubuntu. anyhoo, thanks for your info, and i take it there is no known projects at the moment similar to ubuntu studio, suse/jad, fedora/planet ccrma, etc. I am not sure if you mean there is surely no hope or whether it is just early, assuming that it would basically need a real-time or low-latency kernel bidonkey donk modifications. p.s. on a different note while i'm here, how do you go from 7.1 prerelease to 7.1 release when it is out? when/how do you tell when you stop using stable-supfile and start using standard-supfile? Your're following -STABLE, aka RELENG_7. After 7.1-RELEASE is out you will have to follow RELENG_7_1 is what you want (if you don't want to follow -STABLE anymore). ok, so when 7.1 is released, there will still be a relative stable branch, right? i think i will sit on 7,1, release for a while when out. thank you -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 If it feels good, you're doing something wrong. -- Coach McTavish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Audio Production
Does anyone here use freebsd for serious audio/video production work? or know if there is some kind of community? i have seen ubuntu studio for a general idea outside windows/osx, but prefer fbsd over linux. and found most programs in ports, but i would like to find out more about kernel optimization in that respect and what goes into that type of dedicated setup. i am running 7-stable with a custom kernel, where i only added vesa, and removed some scsi and network drivers i don't have from the generic kernel, but i figure there must be more settings to tweak than what i saw there in the generic file. would there be more settings somewhere else or would you add them to the kernconf file? my setup works fairly decent for desktop use, but seems kinda sluggish with even basic multimedia. p.s. on a different note while i'm here, how do you go from 7.1 prerelease to 7.1 release when it is out? when/how do you tell when you stop using stable-supfile and start using standard-supfile? thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: switching discs during install
Hey, James Strother, if i'm on the same wavelength with you on this, god knows how many times my pc almost made it out the window with this swapping thingy. don't know if this helps a bit at this point to at least save some energy. Well _last _ thing first --- i finally downloaded the dvd, which is well worth it in the long run ( from mini if i recall, plus someone here gave a link ), but if you have a slow connection or download limits, it is a bit hard to suggest that at the moment since 7.1 is around the corner and i'm not sure if that means new discs with latest packages will be available anyway. Apart from that, i am very much new to fbsd, but did quite a few fresh installs before i found my best setup, so here are a few points that made life easier for me. Firstly, which shouldn't be new - cd1 has the base system, source and ports tree, and Xorg. After that kde for instance, can be entirely installed from cd2 ( which i am most familiar with); and i always just do one package or *chunk* at a time. But i just used to install cd1 (base, src/ports, and xorg), reboot without installing packages, copy the packages directory off cd2 to my hard disc under /home and then still use sysinstall to add them from there - by selecting from an existing filesystem' instead of from CD/DVD. But this never gave my trouble since kde is entirely on cd2. To add cd3 might need fixing the index file for sysinstall to work - not sure; but using pkg_add should work from the hard disk. This is just in case you need to reinstall, but i know it does not solve what you hoped for; which i think is still not so straightforward. Here is a basic idea of what i can make of the swapping discs thing. eg. Gnome as the basic meta-port is mainly on cd2 - (i think!). However, i remember coming across a part in the porter's handbook that recommends dependencies, for any given port, be listed alphabetically. So say apache (e.g.) was added as a gnome dependency, (maybe not directly - say depend of a depend) but it is not actually a part of the meta-port, and most probably on cd3-- then it still gets added/installed alphabetically or just before the package that needs it. ( I had noticed some roughly alphabetical order once that made me think that - unless i was hallucinating). I hope this makes sense - even if it not the case - because i am in a rush and i had to comment as this had bugged me alot. Still, even the dvd packages (which are the same version as on the cds with 7-release) are pretty much all outdated now, besides the fact that you will have to build them all from ports, since packages are only available for Stable. I actually built kde4.1 twice from scratch before realising it was easier to upgrade to 7Stable, then add packages using portupgrade -NP -- which saves a local copy of all downloaded packages under /usr/ports/packages/All, and saved my lots of time later. It works better than pkg_add -rK; which only saves the package you ask for and none of the downloaded dependencies. Sorry if i made a mess of this right now. i'm finally up to date right now with all my packages and running 7.1 prerelease, so will see what happens with 7.1 release before i bother making my own dvd with latest packages. phew. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question -updating package + ignore depend
actually I only installed ff2 cuz it was easier at the time - since i only ran into this while trying to update other parts of my system (thru pkg_add) and had other things to worry about. since ff3 runs flash ok, that's enough for me, and seems everything else is improving from what mike mentionsl so i still would like to figure out what you are trying to explain. I mean i only limit myself to *make install clean* when it comes to ports and hope for the best. i brushed thru the porter's handbook when i got stuck with ff2 to see how to ignore it (which didn't work anyway) and have a basic idea of what you are saying, but it is still a bit chinese to me. long story short, i had to scrap that system and start from scratch since then, so i will still have to go thru this and figure it out shortly, not just for the sake of ff right now but any future issues with ports; so i don't know if you want to follow up, try this out, or see what happens my end. while i'm at it, and for the record, after ff i ran into something else much more annoying and a bit comical to some extent. i was trying to install azureus, which needs jdk and the java files manually downloaded, which is not a small package. i went out and let it run, only to come back a few hours later and find it still building - and had to wait another long time for it to finish. meanwhile i noticed the word mozilla rushing by and was wondering *what the heck* since both firefox2+3 were up to date. when it finished i realized it was plain old mozilla, which isn't small, ran it, only to find this has known vulnerabilities and security issues, please install firefox and thunder $#$^$#$% ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question -updating package + ignore depend
hey Greg, just wanted to mention that firefox3 does not handle addons/plugins correctly yet according to ports/UPDATING, so this is still probably right for now and i will probably end up installing ff2 anyway. i got around it using make deinstall/reinstall to upgrade for now, but will try to figure out how to do this proper since i got one port that was going to install the whole of kde3 ( i have a clean install of kde4 and gnome only). thanks for now ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
