Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers
hmm.. it turned out that the problem was not in the drivers or anywhere relevant. Some stupid network monitoring desktop applet (which counts incoming/outgoing IP packets) i had enabled just for fun was somehow causing this weird behavior. Since it didn't show up in the 'top' program or anywhere else for that matter I was fooled into believing that the problem might be in the drivers or somewhere.. I have no idea how it could manage to do something like that, it's also funny that some apps were unaffected. Anyway, now it all works for me. Thanks for the agp advice! Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 01/11/05 10:29 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, after recompiling the kernel i get: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) Most Excellent Dude. Alas, the problem still remains :( Totally Bogus. What app are you getting the hinky video from? Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. Most Righteous. Just make sure you get all the dependencies when you do. Good luck Lou Louis LeBlanc wrote: Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration at all. Try adding these lines to your card device section: Option RenderAccel True Option NvAGP 1 # Use NVIDIAs agp Then restart X. Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already turned on, so that appears to be a default. Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are using a GENERIC kernel (uname -a will tell you), that's almost certainly what's happening. From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following line removed: device agp Check here for details: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. Lou On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: well, Xorg -version says X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. the device section: Section Device Identifier MyGeForce Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA BoardName GeForce4 MX 440 EndSection the sysctls: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f17:0x hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest versions and see what happens then. Not so sure that it would help though :( One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating to agp. How is it enabled? Louis LeBlanc wrote: Top Posting to try keeping this readable Next set of questions: Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or as a package? Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? What is the card def block in your X config? What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: sysctl hw.nvidia just in case)? Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just not be able to get it working. My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. My kernel
jerky opengl, nvidia drivers
To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules out system performance. Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers
well, yes. the module section looks like this: Section Module Load freetype # Load xtt Load extmod Load glx Load dri Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 Load speedo EndSection Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules out system performance. Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? Lou ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers
well, Xorg -version says X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. the device section: Section Device Identifier MyGeForce Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA BoardName GeForce4 MX 440 EndSection the sysctls: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f17:0x hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest versions and see what happens then. Not so sure that it would help though :( One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating to agp. How is it enabled? Louis LeBlanc wrote: Top Posting to try keeping this readable Next set of questions: Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or as a package? Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? What is the card def block in your X config? What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: sysctl hw.nvidia just in case)? Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just not be able to get it working. My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. NVidia GeForce FX5200. Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it working. Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. Good luck. Lou On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: well, yes. the module section looks like this: Section Module Load freetype # Load xtt Load extmod Load glx Load dri Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 Load speedo EndSection Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 01/11/05 06:01 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: To get accelerated OpenGL, i installed Nvidia's drivers for my Geforce4 MX 440 on a FreeBSD 5.3-release machine. The problem is, most of the games and apps that use OpenGL do not run smoothly - every second or so they would freeze for a little while which makes it impossible to enjoy them. At first I thought my system could be too slow or something, however, this also happens with simple apps, even screensavers. What's more, the game Tuxracer runs smoothly without any problems, and since it's a pretty fancy one, i guess that rules out system performance. Does anybody have a clue as to what could be causing this? Are you loading the glx module in your Xorg config? Lou ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jerky opengl, nvidia drivers
ok.. even though there wasn't anything useful in the Xorg logfile, after recompiling the kernel i get: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled Now this almost doubles the frame rates, which is nice to see :) Alas, the problem still remains :( Will try upgrading everything tomorrow.. Louis LeBlanc wrote: Ok, according to your sysctls, you aren't getting the AGP acceleration at all. Try adding these lines to your card device section: Option RenderAccel True Option NvAGP 1 # Use NVIDIAs agp Then restart X. Check your hw.nvidia.agp sysctls, particularly these: hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) You want status to be enabled, and rate to be 2x or 4x. From the sysctls below, it looks like the NvAGP setting is already turned on, so that appears to be a default. Since it's still not working, I suspect that if you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for warnings (WW) or errors (EE) related to AGP use, you'll find something about the native FreeBSD AGP. If you are using a GENERIC kernel (uname -a will tell you), that's almost certainly what's happening. From what I've read, the native FreeBSD AGP doesn't always work with NVidia cards. You'll have to compile a custom kernel with the following line removed: device agp Check here for details: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Also, I'd recommend updating your ports and upgrading Xorg. You might also want to build and install the x11/nvidia-drivers port. Lou On 01/11/05 08:24 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: well, Xorg -version says X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 I think it was installed by sysinstall as a package. I downloaded the drivers from nvidia. the device section: Section Device Identifier MyGeForce Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA BoardName GeForce4 MX 440 EndSection the sysctls: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: not supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f17:0x hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 MX 440 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.17.00.24.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP kernel is basically the default one, built with agp device. I *am* getting the acceleration, however, something is not quite right. As i said, tuxracer runs just fine, so maybe it's some OpenGL feature which most of the apps use, but tuxracer doesn't? Anyway, i should probably try updating everything to the latest versions and see what happens then. Not so sure that it would help though :( One more thing, I can't find any line in Xorg config relating to agp. How is it enabled? Louis LeBlanc wrote: Top Posting to try keeping this readable Next set of questions: Are you running Xorg? What version? Did you install it from ports or as a package? Did you install the binaries from nvidia or did you install them from ports? If installed from ports, how did you build? What is the card def block in your X config? What are your hw.nvidia sysctls (command: sysctl hw.nvidia just in case)? Caveat: Nvidia driver problems have come up twice already in the last week, and several times in the last month or two. Every time it seems there is a magic sword hiding there that causes some poor guy to just not be able to get it working. My setup: FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE. My kernel is build WITHOUT the agp device. NVidia GeForce FX5200. Drivers built from ports with Linux and ACPI support. Xorg 6.8.1 built from ports Xorg config enables the NVidia AGP. I am getting OpenGL acceleration, 8X AGP, and have two monitors presenting an extended desktop. I still haven't figured out the tiny ingredient that makes it all work for me, but keeps it eluding others. That's kinda bugging me - and, I'm sure, those others that can't get it working. Present the info requested above; if I see anything that looks off, you can try it. Maybe we'll finally find the missing link. Good luck. Lou On 01/11/05 06:59 PM, zork sat at the `puter and typed: well, yes. the module section looks like this: Section Module Load freetype # Load xtt Load extmod
