Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues

2006-08-03 Thread Colin Percival
John Rogers wrote:
 Hi, I was upgrading following Colin's FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 6.1
 binary upgrade
 
 http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-6.0-to-6.1/
 
 but it failed.  I installed freebsd 6.0 release and only used Colin's
 freebsd-update to updae before.  There is plenty of free space on that
 partition.  What do you advise me to do to finish the upgrade?

Based on what you pasted below, I suggest
1. Figure out why /usr/bin/gdbtui can't be read.  In particular, make
sure your hard drive isn't dying.
2. The error which made the script terminate is either due to a dying
hard drive or a network problem which made it impossible to fetch some
files.  Re-run the script; it won't bother fetching files which it
already has.

Note that at this point all the script has done is to examine your
system and download files; it won't start actually upgrading anything
until it makes sure that it has all the files it needs. :-)

 I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade are not legitimized
 in the freebsd core distribution.  An important reason why linux is
 used by more is its easy update solution similar to Microsoft's
 Windows Update.  Sure make world is fun especially to developers.
 But providing easy update and upgrade tools in addition will attract a
 large user base who just need a stable and easy to use operation
 system - and many of them can be companies who can be potential donors
 to the freebsd project.  So the effort to this path will be well
 rewarded.

We're moving in that direction.  Everything starts out by being experimental
before becoming officially supported and endorsed.

Colin Percival
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Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues

2006-08-03 Thread backyard1454-bsd



  I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade
 are not legitimized
  in the freebsd core distribution.  An important
 reason why linux is
  used by more is its easy update solution similar
 to Microsoft's
  Windows Update.  Sure make world is fun
 especially to developers.
  But providing easy update and upgrade tools in
 addition will attract a
  large user base who just need a stable and easy to
 use operation
  system - and many of them can be companies who can
 be potential donors
  to the freebsd project.  So the effort to this
 path will be well
  rewarded.
 
 We're moving in that direction.  Everything starts
 out by being experimental
 before becoming officially supported and endorsed.
 
 Colin Percival

I acutally find it better to do the make world then
to deal with binary updates because if it builds on
your system it will typically run on your system, as
well as there not being silly little incompatabilities
with the system libraries and binaries. I find
updating linux to be the most god awful prospect on
earth which is why I switched to FreeBSD for the most
part. It's probably gotten a lot better since Redhat
7.x which is what I was using. Gentoo is a lot better
but I haven't had a working system since they updated
the kernel to xx.xx.15 and put gcc 4.x into the base
system...

but to each their own, I know a binary update would be
nice when I start deploying things like desktopbsd on
my friends PCs who don't get formatting a harddrive
let alone building software. However this would mean
the builds would have to be generic i586, i686 and on
an old p3 500mhz machine building for a specific
processor with specific optimizations can make a huge
difference in performance. Even more so on p2 166
machines. 

Again to each their own. But I wouldn't tout Microsoft
update as a good thing becuase there are known bugs
where updates can erase previously updated code with
old buggy code... 

sorry been a long day had to end it with blasting
microsloth...

-brian

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