Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
Jorn Argelo wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:12:54 -0500 (PET), Richard Cotrina wrote Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. I personally don't feel that any OS is safer then the other. It's just what the administrator does. A Linux guru can't secure a Windows machine as good as a Windows guru can, and vica versa. One can say that a particular OS attracks more experienced administrators. Perhaps. But again it's the administrator which is the crucial fact of an OS being secure or not. It's rather easy to say that Windows is less secure then Linux or BSD because there are more viruses/exploits for Window. Well, I think that services like Sendmail and Apache can contain more exploits then Windows, to be honest. Of course, I can't prove anything, but that's just my personal feeling about it. Cheers, Jorn Actually, I read somewhere that UNIX systems are more vulnerable to buffer overflows than Windows systems. Can't confirm the validity of this, though. -- Henrik W Lund ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:45:38 +0100, Henrik W Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I read somewhere that UNIX systems are more vulnerable to buffer overflows than Windows systems. Can't confirm the validity of this, though. Buffer overflows are already being addressed. http://www.openbsd.org/papers/auug04/ http://kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=573 http://news.com.com/2100-1002-996584.html -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*BSD is considered the safest OS
Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
Richard Cotrina wrote: Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php heise.de questioned the credibility of the study. On the other hand they did a security survey around december 2003/january 2004, and IIRC, their results were *pretty* similar to what this study shows. I do believe, the heise-study also mentioned that BSD-systems were not only rarely attacked because of being so rare, but that the rate of successful attacks against BSD-based system was lower than with, say Linux and Windows. speculation I for one do believe that Linux gets aways so badly not because Linux inherently insecure or bad, but because many Linux-machines do not - that's my impression at least - receive the degree of administrative attention they would need. BSD - in my impression - attracts more experienced users/administrators than Linux, having become rather mainstream. If you looked at the attacked Linux systems in more detail, I also assume you'd find the same to be true for Red Hat/Suse vs. Debian systems. I do believe that the same goes for windows - since it's so easy to handle, superficially, it will tend to be operated by less experienced admins in general. Just remember that all the NT-worms only got so successful because there uncounted unpatched systems out there... /speculation Kind regards, Benjamin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:12:54 -0500 (PET), Richard Cotrina wrote Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. I personally don't feel that any OS is safer then the other. It's just what the administrator does. A Linux guru can't secure a Windows machine as good as a Windows guru can, and vica versa. One can say that a particular OS attracks more experienced administrators. Perhaps. But again it's the administrator which is the crucial fact of an OS being secure or not. It's rather easy to say that Windows is less secure then Linux or BSD because there are more viruses/exploits for Window. Well, I think that services like Sendmail and Apache can contain more exploits then Windows, to be honest. Of course, I can't prove anything, but that's just my personal feeling about it. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
Richard Cotrina wrote: Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone write-up a slashdot story and submit it... It's always fun to prod are linux comrades. :-) http://slashdot.org/submit.pl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
--- Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Cotrina wrote: Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php Someone write-up a slashdot story and submit it... It's always fun to prod are linux comrades. :-) http://slashdot.org/submit.pl Hm. I've always been curious to know how long it took for a message to be accepted, and the background check undergone. Clearly not long, nor extensive, considering the following. http://slashdot.org/articles/04/02/21/142239.shtml __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *BSD is considered the safest OS
Nikolas Britton wrote: Richard Cotrina wrote: Perhaps this is an old news, but it's interesting to post it to the list. A recent study made by MI2G, an UK company focused in data risk security, shows that *BSD and MacOS X were the less breached OS in a sample of more that 200K computers permanently connected to the internet. http://mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//mi2g.net/cgi/mi2g/press/021104.php Someone write-up a slashdot story and submit it... It's always fun to prod are linux comrades. :-) http://slashdot.org/submit.pl Done if !defined ${tact} echo [snip] The study also reveals that Linux has become the most breached 24/7 online computing environment .endif However, looks like someone more objective than I am beat me to it :-( Kevin Kinsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]