Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-17 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Thursday 14 December 2006 00:17, Bastiaan Welmers wrote:

> - sometimes I still can't unmount the media even if all KDE windows (and
>   other programs) are closed. I think some instance of gamin or KDE
>   keeps running although all windows have been closed. This also
>   indicates sometimes not all processes are terminated well.
>
> Now I'm using fam instead of gamin again. I think it should be nice if
> this would become standard or the gamin issue wil be resolved, because
> it's quite annoying not being able to unmount removable media all the
> time. 

I haven't really seen that sort of trouble, but then I don't use writable 
removable media much at all (cdroms never gave me problems). FWIW, I think I 
already tried everything I could to reverse the fam->gamin switch, but it's 
not going to happen. Your best bet is probably to take your problems up with 
the gamin maintainer (gnome@).


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Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-17 Thread Bastiaan Welmers
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 12:35:05PM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> On 14 Dec Bastiaan Welmers wrote:
>
> > One nasty thing is that when afterwards installing a package
> > requiring
> > gamin, it will fail with errors. To prevent this you could just
> > "fake"
> > the pkg db that gamin is installed however actually fam libraries
> > are
> > installed.
>
> And how exactly is this "faking" done? I'm no fan of gamin too and if

Just replace the gamin libraries by the fam ones, for example by
manually
extracting the libraries from the tarball and place them in
/usr/local/lib without actually updating the package database.
It should work fine with KDE, openoffice, I don't know it works well
with programs like courier...

> possible I compiled my programs for fam. But this sounds nice ;-)

If you want to recompile all stuff just put WITH_FAM_SYSTEM=fam in
/etc/make.conf and rebuild all packages using gamin. You have to rebuild
all ports because fam and gamin can't be installed together.

/Bastiaan

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Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-15 Thread Micah

dick hoogendijk wrote:

On 14 Dec Bastiaan Welmers wrote:


One nasty thing is that when afterwards installing a package requiring
gamin, it will fail with errors. To prevent this you could just "fake"
the pkg db that gamin is installed however actually fam libraries are
installed.


And how exactly is this "faking" done? I'm no fan of gamin too and if
possible I compiled my programs for fam. But this sounds nice ;-)



Not sure what the original poster was refering to, but I just put 
WITH_FAM_SYSTEM=fam in my /etc/make.conf back when they first started 
changing ports over to gamin, and have not had any problems since.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-15 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 14 Dec Bastiaan Welmers wrote:

> One nasty thing is that when afterwards installing a package requiring
> gamin, it will fail with errors. To prevent this you could just "fake"
> the pkg db that gamin is installed however actually fam libraries are
> installed.

And how exactly is this "faking" done? I'm no fan of gamin too and if
possible I compiled my programs for fam. But this sounds nice ;-)

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Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-13 Thread Bastiaan Welmers
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 12:06:43AM +, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote:
> Just a quick "me too". I have been seeing the exact same behavior ever 
> since gamin was shoved down our throats as a better replacement for fam. 
> But since nobody else complained, I figured it was just my system. 

When building from ports it's quite easy to change back to fam, just put

WITH_FAM_SYSTEM=fam

into /etc/make.conf

For existing systems/binary installed systems, you can just pkg_delete
-f gamin* and install fam instead, so gamin libraries wil be replaced by
the fam ones, it works well to me. One nasty thing is that when afterwards 
installing a package requiring gamin, it will fail with errors. To prevent 
this you could just "fake" the pkg db that gamin is installed however 
actually fam libraries are installed.

> Whatever gamin is doing, it is not showing up in lsof, but the file 
> system is still busy. I did try tweaking my ~/.gaminrc to switch to 
> polling for the mount points in question, but this didn't help. Oddly 
> enough, sometimes, maybe one time out of ten, gamin will not exhibit 
> this strange behavior. It will just let me unmount without any problems.

Maybe because you just unmount on exactly the right moment, when gamin
is not occupying the file system? Or just all windows and processes are 
closed cleanly.

/Bastiaan

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Re: [kde-freebsd] gamin/fam issues with KDE

2006-12-13 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
Just a quick "me too". I have been seeing the exact same behavior ever 
since gamin was shoved down our throats as a better replacement for fam. 
But since nobody else complained, I figured it was just my system. 
Whatever gamin is doing, it is not showing up in lsof, but the file 
system is still busy. I did try tweaking my ~/.gaminrc to switch to 
polling for the mount points in question, but this didn't help. Oddly 
enough, sometimes, maybe one time out of ten, gamin will not exhibit 
this strange behavior. It will just let me unmount without any problems.


- Bartosz

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