Files in /tmp directory - Is there any timelimit ?

2013-09-25 Thread Sreeram BS
Hi,
   I am using FreeBSD 9. I would like to know as to what is the lifetime of
the files in /tmp directory. The general description says that these files
*may* not be preserved across a reboot. By this I interpret that if the
system is not rebooted, then these files will be there forever. But, just
wanted a confirmation to see if there is any lifespan (expiry-time)
attached with these files (ie the system would flush these files after some
days/months etc automatically).

Please inform.

Regards,
Sreeram
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Re: Files in /tmp directory - Is there any timelimit ?

2013-09-25 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi Sreeram,

I am using FreeBSD 9. I would like to know as to what is the lifetime of
 the files in /tmp directory. The general description says that these files
 *may* not be preserved across a reboot. By this I interpret that if the
 system is not rebooted, then these files will be there forever. But, just
 wanted a confirmation to see if there is any lifespan (expiry-time)
 attached with these files (ie the system would flush these files after some
 days/months etc automatically).

No. Applications should be responsible for cleaning their temporary files.

Bests,

Olivier


 Please inform.

 Regards,
 Sreeram
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Re: FreeBSD 8.4 Boot failure

2013-09-25 Thread Tyler Sweet
Luckily, in this case, I had set a cron job long, long ago to do daily
snapshots. So I have a snapshot from before the upgrade - There are
indeed two different loaders. The newer one matches zfs when
grepped, the older one does not... But, since it was working before, I
restored the older loader and tried to boot again. No dice - it still
sticks at that screen where all I see is / in the upper left.

I also tried putting the older zfsboot and zfsloader back in place
(with the old loader) to try and get a different error - still no
dice. I'm still stuck wondering if that screen is from FreeBSD
attempting to boot, or from the BIOS - but nothing changed for
booting, as far as I know. I'll poke through the BIOS more tomorrow as
well to see if some option got reset during a power-off.

I'll get a more thorough look at what all changed in /boot tomorrow
too, and get a list of all the files. It's almost 4am here and I have
to work tomorrow :) (well, today I suppose). I'll also check to see if
I can find anything about if zfs boot works differently in 8.4 vs 8.3
and older, as I may not have rebooted after the final freebsd-update
install command (I *think* I did, but my memory gets fuzzy).

Thanks for the input! I hope you have a good morning, and I'll let you
know tomorrow/later today with anything new and interesting I find :)

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Terje Elde te...@elde.net wrote:
 On 25. sep. 2013, at 06:59, Tyler Sweet ty...@tsweet.net wrote:
 I tried reinstalling the boot blocks from both
 the fixit live filesystem and also mounting zroot and using the files
 there in case they were different.

 Disclaimer: I haven't gotten (enough) morning-coffee yet, but...

 Disclaimer 2: at times tracking how zfs-booting is done in the different 
 versions can be a bit tricky. This is a moving target, and I've lost track of 
 the 8-branch.

 That said, assuming you have the correct bootcode (gptzfsboot), here's what 
 might have happened:

 You installed 8.2, with a loader supporting zfs. Then you upgraded your 
 /boot-stuffs, and bootcode on disk (correctly), but got left with a loader 
 without zfs support. Then tried to upgrade the bootcode, but you're still 
 left with a loader not supporting zfs.

 If I recall correctly, then the zfs-bootcode for 9+ will use zfsloader 
 (supporting zfs and built by default), while earlier versions depend on 
 loader with zfs support (built without by default).

 If that's the case, you could dump LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT into /etc/make.conf and 
 rebuild/reinstall it, or install /boot/loader from the fixit (if it has zfs 
 support in 8.4).

 That's my first thought at least... If that  doesn't fix it (remember backups 
 of any files you replace or upgrade), it'd be interesting to see the output 
 of:
 ls -l /boot/*loader /boot/*boot
 On the /boot you're using. Anything that didn't get built or installed?

 Also, did you snapshot your zfs before upgrading? Could be a working 
 /boot/loader there, which might be the easiest way to get the system up, 
 before rebuilding with ZFS-capable loader... if I'm right, which isn't a 
 given (ref disclaimers).

 Terje

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Re: Files in /tmp directory - Is there any timelimit ?

2013-09-25 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

25.09.2013 11:34, Sreeram BS wrote:

Hi,
I am using FreeBSD 9. I would like to know as to what is the lifetime of
the files in /tmp directory. The general description says that these files
*may* not be preserved across a reboot. By this I interpret that if the
system is not rebooted, then these files will be there forever. But, just
wanted a confirmation to see if there is any lifespan (expiry-time)
attached with these files (ie the system would flush these files after some
days/months etc automatically).


Not by default. There's a clean-tmps periodic task which can be enabled 
@/etc/periodic.conf. It defaults to three days.


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Re: Files in /tmp directory - Is there any timelimit ?

2013-09-25 Thread Sreeram BS
Does this auto-cleanup apply to files in /var/tmp directory also.
The generic description says that the files in this directory can stay
across reboots. So, does this survive auto-cleanup too?

regards,
Sreeram


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:

 25.09.2013 11:34, Sreeram BS wrote:

 Hi,
 I am using FreeBSD 9. I would like to know as to what is the lifetime
 of
 the files in /tmp directory. The general description says that these files
 *may* not be preserved across a reboot. By this I interpret that if the
 system is not rebooted, then these files will be there forever. But, just
 wanted a confirmation to see if there is any lifespan (expiry-time)
 attached with these files (ie the system would flush these files after
 some
 days/months etc automatically).


 Not by default. There's a clean-tmps periodic task which can be enabled
 @/etc/periodic.conf. It defaults to three days.

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Re: Files in /tmp directory - Is there any timelimit ?

2013-09-25 Thread Frank Leonhardt


On 25/09/2013 10:05, Sreeram BS wrote:

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.comwrote:


25.09.2013 11:34, Sreeram BS wrote:


Hi,
 I am using FreeBSD 9. I would like to know as to what is the lifetime
of
the files in /tmp directory. The general description says that these files
*may* not be preserved across a reboot. By this I interpret that if the
system is not rebooted, then these files will be there forever. But, just
wanted a confirmation to see if there is any lifespan (expiry-time)
attached with these files (ie the system would flush these files after
some
days/months etc automatically).


Not by default. There's a clean-tmps periodic task which can be enabled
@/etc/periodic.conf. It defaults to three days.

--
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.


Does this auto-cleanup apply to files in /var/tmp directory also.
The generic description says that the files in this directory can stay
across reboots. So, does this survive auto-cleanup too?

regards,
Sreeram
The default is to clean up /tmp only, but this can be changed in 
periodic.conf


If you're struggling with this, note that a default periodic.conf is in 
/etc/defaults and it's individual values can be over-ridden by 
/etc/periodic.conf IF IT EXISTS.


Regards, Frank.

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Re: New system - go for 9.1+upgrade - or go for 9.2-RC4?

2013-09-25 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 09:16:01AM +0200, Terje Elde wrote:
 
 Two options:
 ...

Thanks - helps alot.

-ewald
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fusefs-libs compile error

2013-09-25 Thread Doug Sampson

While trying to upgrade from 2.9.3 of fusefs-libs:


root@squid:/usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-libs# make install clean

===  Building package for fusefs-libs-2.9.3_1
Creating package /usr/ports/packages/All/fusefs-libs-2.9.3_1.tbz
Registering depends: libiconv-1.14_1.
Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/usr/ports/packages/All/fusefs-libs-2.9.3_1.tbz'
tar:  share/doc/fusefs/libs/how-fuse-works: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar:  share/doc/fusefs/libs/kernel.txt: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256
*** [do-package] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-libs.
*** [install] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-libs.
root@squid:/usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-libs#



What's up with this?

~Doug
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minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

folks,

am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
you typed something like:

% vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]

to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  

TIA, y'all,

gary



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Problems with 9.2-RC3

2013-09-25 Thread Walter Hurry
Running 9.2-RC4 in a VirtualBox VM, I am having a few problems.

FreeBSD freebsd.vm 9.2-RC3 FreeBSD 9.2-RC3 #1 r254965: Wed Aug 28 
04:17:40 BST 2013 r...@freebsd.vm:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VM4  amd64

At this stage I am reluctant to file PRs, as doubtless some of these are 
of my own making.

The first is that I cannot get port devel/xdg-utils to install. The error 
is:

===  Installing for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919
===   Registering installation for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
desktop-icon.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
desktop-menu.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
email.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
icon-resource.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
mime.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
open.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
screensaver.1): No such file or directory
pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
settings.1): No such file or directory
*** [fake-pkg] Error code 74

What have I done wrong? It seems fine on 9.1 and 10.0.

Other issues will follow as separate threads.

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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
   you typed something like:
 
   % vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]
   
   to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
   shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  

To repeat the last command, . can be used.

The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
according to man vi:

   [Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
  Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.

Is this what you're searching for?

Or do you refer to command lines where @: would repeat the
last command (started with :)?

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Re: Problems with 9.2-RC3

2013-09-25 Thread Joseph Mingrone
Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com writes:

 Running 9.2-RC4 in a VirtualBox VM, I am having a few problems.

 FreeBSD freebsd.vm 9.2-RC3 FreeBSD 9.2-RC3 #1 r254965: Wed Aug 28 
 04:17:40 BST 2013 r...@freebsd.vm:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VM4  amd64

 At this stage I am reluctant to file PRs, as doubtless some of these are 
 of my own making.

 The first is that I cannot get port devel/xdg-utils to install. The error 
 is:

 ===  Installing for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919
 ===   Registering installation for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 desktop-icon.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 desktop-menu.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 email.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 icon-resource.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 mime.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 open.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 screensaver.1): No such file or directory
 pkg-static: lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 settings.1): No such file or directory
 *** [fake-pkg] Error code 74

 What have I done wrong? It seems fine on 9.1 and 10.0.


There were some staging problems with ports.  Update your ports tree
then upgrade ports-mgmt/pkg and the problem should resolve itself.

Joseph


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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:23:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
  you typed something like:
  
  % vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]
  
  to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
  shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  
 
 To repeat the last command, . can be used.
 
 The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
 according to man vi:
 
[Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
   Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.
 
 Is this what you're searching for?


I THOGoHT it was !, but lookit:


pts/14 17:11 tao [5010] vi sent
pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
zsh: command not found: vi!
pts/14 17:12 tao [5012]

...  this is vi == vim.  

AHA:: found it.  it's [bang]commant


pts/14 17:17 tao [5016] vi sent
pts/14 17:17 tao [5017] !v


I'll tell ya, if vi disappeared , I'd end it all!

tx.

gary






 Or do you refer to command lines where @: would repeat the

-N T- 34/41: P last command (started with :)?
 
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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:21:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
 Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.
 
 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:23:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax where
 you typed something like:
   
 % vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]
 
 to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
 shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  
  
  To repeat the last command, . can be used.
  
  The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
  according to man vi:
  
 [Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.
  
  Is this what you're searching for?
 
 
   I THOGoHT it was !, but lookit:
 
 
 pts/14 17:11 tao [5010] vi sent
 pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
 zsh: command not found: vi!
 pts/14 17:12 tao [5012]
 
 ...  this is vi == vim.  
 
   AHA:: found it.  it's [bang]commant
 
 
 pts/14 17:17 tao [5016] vi sent
 pts/14 17:17 tao [5017] !v
 
 
   I'll tell ya, if vi disappeared , I'd end it all!

Ah, I see - you've been refering to repeating a _shell_
command (so the question was regarding the shell, which
in your case is Z shell).

You can probably use (like in the C shell) the arrow keys
to browse the command history. Similarly, you can use the
!number command refering to the command number obtained
by the history command. There's a handy alias defined
globally for the C shell: h which means history 25
(lists the last 25 commands), handy in regards of saving
keystrokes. :-)

I assume the zsh is also capable of filtered history:
For example, you enter vi s and use the up and down
arrow keys to browse all commands that have been entered
starting with vi s (for example vi sent, vi stuff
and so on). If the system's csh can do this, zsh should
also provide this useful feature.

And as your prompt pts/14 17:12 tao [5012] suggests,
the command number is being shown. If this information
is the same as the command number in the history, entering
!5010 would execute the 2nd from last command.

To repeat the last command, whatever it has been, !!
can be used. Again, this works in csh, so I can't predict
if it will work in zsh too, but I _assume_ it does.




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Re: minor vi/vim qstn

2013-09-25 Thread Gary Kline
Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:06:00AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:21:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
  Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.
  
  On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:23:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:27:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
am I misremembering this feature, or didnt vi have a syntax 
where
you typed something like:

% vi[#] or % vi [-2]  [or vi [-N]

to repeat the last or the second from last  command?  with my
shoulder sore bloody sore I need to save every key stroke.  
   
   To repeat the last command, . can be used.
   
   The vi editor (and probably vim and gvim) supports
   according to man vi:
   
  [Vi]i[sual][!] [+cmd] [file]
 Vi mode only.  Edit a new file.
   
   Is this what you're searching for?
  
  
  I THOGoHT it was !, but lookit:
  
  
  pts/14 17:11 tao [5010] vi sent
  pts/14 17:11 tao [5011] vi!
  zsh: command not found: vi!
  pts/14 17:12 tao [5012]
  
  ...  this is vi == vim.  
  
  AHA:: found it.  it's [bang]commant
  
  
  pts/14 17:17 tao [5016] vi sent
  pts/14 17:17 tao [5017] !v
  
  
  I'll tell ya, if vi disappeared , I'd end it all!
 
 Ah, I see - you've been refering to repeating a _shell_
 command (so the question was regarding the shell, which
 in your case is Z shell).
 
 You can probably use (like in the C shell) the arrow keys
 to browse the command history. Similarly, you can use the
 !number command refering to the command number obtained
 by the history command. There's a handy alias defined
 globally for the C shell: h which means history 25
 (lists the last 25 commands), handy in regards of saving
 keystrokes. :-)
 
 I assume the zsh is also capable of filtered history:
 For example, you enter vi s and use the up and down
 arrow keys to browse all commands that have been entered
 starting with vi s (for example vi sent, vi stuff
 and so on). If the system's csh can do this, zsh should
 also provide this useful feature.
 
 And as your prompt pts/14 17:12 tao [5012] suggests,
 the command number is being shown. If this information
 is the same as the command number in the history, entering
 !5010 would execute the 2nd from last command.
 
 To repeat the last command, whatever it has been, !!
 can be used. Again, this works in csh, so I can't predict
 if it will work in zsh too, but I _assume_ it does.
 
dunno how you know im using the zsh, but yup.  with the bang stuff
if you do a 

% !-3

you go back three vi cmds.  !-N, N cmds. 

thankfully there are shortcuts!

gary

ps: zsh is sort of a ksh clone; I remember porting the zsh onto
my 286 in 1989.  got a lot of csh-isms :)


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Re: Problems with 9.2-RC3

2013-09-25 Thread Walter Hurry
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:46:39 -0300, Joseph Mingrone wrote:

 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Running 9.2-RC4 in a VirtualBox VM, I am having a few problems.

 FreeBSD freebsd.vm 9.2-RC3 FreeBSD 9.2-RC3 #1 r254965: Wed Aug 28
 04:17:40 BST 2013 r...@freebsd.vm:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VM4  amd64

 At this stage I am reluctant to file PRs, as doubtless some of these
 are of my own making.

 The first is that I cannot get port devel/xdg-utils to install. The
 error is:

 ===  Installing for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919 ===   Registering
 installation for xdg-utils-1.0.2.20130919 pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 desktop-icon.1): No such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 desktop-menu.1): No such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg- email.1): No
 such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 icon-resource.1): No such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg- mime.1): No
 such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg- open.1): No
 such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg-
 screensaver.1): No such file or directory pkg-static:
 lstat(/usr/ports/devel/xdg-utils/work/stage/usr/local/xdg- settings.1):
 No such file or directory *** [fake-pkg] Error code 74

 What have I done wrong? It seems fine on 9.1 and 10.0.


 There were some staging problems with ports.  Update your ports tree
 then upgrade ports-mgmt/pkg and the problem should resolve itself.

Thanks!

I cleared down the ports tree, did a fresh 'portsnap fetch extract', and 
all is now well in this regard.

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Convincing print/auctex to depend on editors/emacs-nox11

2013-09-24 Thread Trond Endrestøl
Hi,

Is there a way of convincing print/auctex to depend on 
editors/emacs-nox11 rather than editors/emacs24?

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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-24 Thread Graham Todd
Thank you very much about your efforts to explain me in detailed the  
'dangerous dedicated' term.

Regards,

atar.

And as a complete newb trying to wrestle with some of the concepts
here, may I add my thanks here for clarifying yet another
well-understood matter which leaves us floundering.

Thanks again to all who have diffused some of the mystique which
surrounds BSD from time to time.

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Re: Fwd: e2fsprogs fails to build/compile in FreeBSD 9.1

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Matthias Andree
matthias.and...@tu-dortmund.de wrote:


 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com schrieb:

 Dear Sir,

 I forwarded the message to list about failing to build e2fsprogs.

 Hope you can advice!

 Best Regards,


 Antonio

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM
 Subject: e2fsprogs fails to build/compile in FreeBSD 9.1
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


 gmake[2]: Entering directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/resize'
 CC extent.c
 CC resize2fs.c
 CC main.c
 CC online.c
 CC resource_track.c
 CC sim_progress.c
 CC test_extent.c
 SUBST resize2fs.8
 LD test_extent
 LD resize2fs
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/resize'
 making all in tests/progs
 gmake[2]: Entering directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/tests/progs'
 CC test_icount.c
 MK_CMDS test_icount_cmds.c
 CC crcsum.c
 CC test_icount_cmds.c
 LD crcsum
 LD test_icount
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/tests/progs'
 making all in po
 gmake[2]: Entering directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/po'
 gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/po'
 gmake[1]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
 gmake docs
 gmake[1]: Entering directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
 gmake[2]: Entering directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/doc'
 MAKEINFO libext2fs.info
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/doc'
 gmake[1]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
 cd /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/e2fsck 
 /bin/rm -f e2fsck   gmake e2fsck  STATIC_LIBS=../lib/libext2fs.a
 ../lib/libcom_err.a  ../lib/libblkid.a  ../lib/libuuid.a
 LIBINTL=/usr/local/lib/libintl.a
 LD e2fsck
 /usr/local/lib/libintl.a(dcigettext.o): In function `_nl_find_msg':
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0x94b): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0x9fa): undefined reference to `libiconv'
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0xbaf): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
 /usr/local/lib/libintl.a(relocatable.o): In function
 `libintl_set_relocation_prefix':
 relocatable.c:(.text+0x14b): undefined reference to
 `libiconv_set_relocation_prefix'
 gmake: *** [e2fsck] Error 1
 *** [post-build] Error code 2

 Stop in
 /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs.
 *** [build] Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs.

 === make failed for sysutils/e2fsprogs
 === Aborting update

 === Update for sysutils/e2fsprogs failed
 === Aborting update

 === Killing background jobs
 Terminated





 Ideas, advice, suggestions, will be greatly appreciated.

 Best Regards,


 Antonio


 Antonio,

 sorry it is giving you troubles. Try make config and deselect NLS, I will
 investigate the trouble 8 days from today.

 Best regards,
 Matthias

Dear Matthias  Eduardo  all,

I unchecked NLS from config. and it worked.  Thanks very much for your help!

===
Note: this is a modified version of the e2fsprogs package, not the official
package. Report all building and run-time trouble that originates in the
package to the port maintainer, mand...@freebsd.org.
===

===   Compressing manual pages for e2fsprogs-1.42.8
===   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
===   Registering installation for e2fsprogs-1.42.8

=== Upgrade of e2fsprogs-1.42.7 to e2fsprogs-1.42.8 succeeded

=== Deleting stale distfile: e2fsprogs-1.42.7.tar.gz
=== Returning to update check of installed ports

=== Update check of installed ports complete

=== pkg-message for fusefs-libs-2.9.3_1
Install the fuse kernel module to use this port.

=== pkg-message for e2fsprogs-1.42.8
===
Note: this is a modified version of the e2fsprogs package, not the official
package. Report all building and run-time trouble that originates in the
package to the port maintainer, mand...@freebsd.org.
===


Best Regards,


Antonio
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HP Workstation install

2013-09-24 Thread Bernt Hansson

Hello list!

I've bought an HP Workstation xw8200 and trying to install fsb 8.3, 8.4 
and 9.1. The machine boots with all of the 8.x but never install, trying 
to install from usb stick.


Installing 9.1 works, sort of, installation works fine but it never boot.

Gives;

Non-system disk or disk error
replace and strike any key when ready.

It is a dual xeon system with 6 Gb ram and 4 HDDs
2 73Gb scsi one 120Gb PATA and one 160Gb SATA

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Re: HP Workstation install

2013-09-24 Thread Pascal Schmid
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On 09/24/2013 05:14 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 Hello list!
 
 I've bought an HP Workstation xw8200 and trying to install fsb 8.3, 8.4 and 
 9.1. The machine
 boots with all of the 8.x but never install, trying to install from usb stick.
 
 Installing 9.1 works, sort of, installation works fine but it never boot.
 
 Gives;
 
 Non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready.
 
 It is a dual xeon system with 6 Gb ram and 4 HDDs 2 73Gb scsi one 120Gb PATA 
 and one 160Gb
 SATA
 
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Hello,

according to my search results this error is related to a broken hard drive 
cable or due to a
wrong boot sequence (BIOS can't find your boot disk). Have you tried to set the 
boot disk on first
position for booting? If that doesn't help, please check the cables.

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Re: Shared object libaprutil-1.so.4 not found, required by libserf-1.so.0

2013-09-24 Thread Nicolas Hainaux
Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at gmail.com writes:

 
 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Matthew Seaman
 m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
  On 11/09/2013 21:03, Antonio Olivares wrote:
  [Info  19:57:22] Updating 'freebsd_texlive' source ports tree with
method 'svn'.
  Shared object libaprutil-1.so.4 not found, required by libserf-1.so.0
  [Error 19:57:22] Subversion update failed.
  [Error 19:57:22] Failed to update the 'freebsd_texlive' ports tree.
 
  Yeah -- you need to update or install the package that provides
  libaprutil-1.so.  If you're using pkg(8) against a package repository
  rather than compiling your own, you could use:
 
  pkg check -d subversion-1.8.3
 
  For portmaster dependencies should be auto-updated when you run
 
  portmaster devel/subversion
 
  It might be useful to run
 
  portmaster --force-config -f devel/subversion
 
  so you can recheck all the options settings of dependencies, but this
  will rebuild portmaster and everything it depends on.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Matthew
 
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  JID: matthew at infracaninophile.co.uk
 
 
 Dear Dr. Matthew,
 
 Thank you very much for your excellent advice.  Worked like a champ!
 Now if I can get iced-teaweb/openjdk to open *.jnlp files to use java,
 it appears that itweb-javaws is not working correctly.  Firefox
 reports that the file *.jnlp downloaded, but it is not opened by java.
  Thank you very much sir for your help.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Antonio
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Hello,

I've had the same problem, also using portshaker and freebsd-texlive ports.

I think the solution was in /usr/ports/UPDATING :

20130706:
  AFFECTS: users of devel/apr1
  AUTHOR: oha...@freebsd.org

  APR was updated to 1.4.8 and APR-util was updated to 1.5.2.

  Please rebuild all ports which are using functions from
  APR/APR-util such as apache, subversion ...

  # portmaster -r apr
  or
  # portupgrade -r devel/apr1
  or
  # pkg install -fR devel/apr1



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calculating vfs.zfs.l2arc_write_max and vfs.zfs.l2arc_write_boost

2013-09-24 Thread aurfalien
Hi all,

Curious, since I have 3xSSDs capable of 550MB/s each as my L2ARC, should I add 
them up to roughly determine max and boost values?

I couldn't find anything conclusive regarding this.

Thanks in advance,

- aurf

 

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FreeBSD 8.4 Boot failure

2013-09-24 Thread Tyler Sweet
Hello all,

Not sure if this is the correct list. I've run into a problem with one
of my servers where it no longer boots. It uses GPT and ZFS for root.
Recently, I did an upgrade from 8.2 up to 8.4. That went fine, and I
rebooted a few times after that to finish installing updates. During
those reboots, I also updated ZFS to the most recent version to take
advantage of dedupe and the new compression algorithm. The server has
two zpools, zroot which has the system on it, and data, which has
everything else (except /usr/home, which is on zroot). I followed this
guide a long, long time ago:
https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/RAIDZ1

While deleting several large files, the system stopped responding to
SSH/HTTP/everything except ping. Thinking it was just taking a long
time to finish, I let it sit for about a day. When it didn't recover,
I had to do a hard power-off, as it wasn't accepting key strokes at
the console.

When it boots back up, it gets past POST and then goes to a black
screen with just a spinner in the upper left-hand corner. No text, no
logo, nothing else. The spinner used to spin around a few times, now
it does nothing.

I've managed to get boot zpools loaded up in the fixit console, they
don't show any errors. I tried reinstalling the boot blocks from both
the fixit live filesystem and also mounting zroot and using the files
there in case they were different. Neither one seems to change
anything. I've let it sit at the (mostly) blank screen for two hours
with no change.

I'm at the end of my wits, and haven't been able to find any
information as to what could be causing this. There are no error
messages at the console, and the only output is that frozen spinner.
From what I remember, I didn't change anything on the zroot zpool
during the upgrade, only the data zpool to enable the new compression
and dedupe on a couple file systems where they would be useful.

I've checked /boot/loader.conf and /etc/fstab, and neither one has
changed since it was last working. My only though is if the zroot
zpool was borked somehow, but it still loads up without any issue in
the fixit console (Though I had to use the -f flag on both zpools when
I first loaded them, as they were still in use from when the server
crashed). All the disks appear to be fine. The server still boots from
USB and CD without throwing any errors.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could be, or how I
could troubleshoot this Further?
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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-23 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:25:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote:
 It's dangerous because that partitioning format is rare outside of 
 BSD-based systems.  Disk utilities may not recognize it, and could
 damage it.

I think this is a good characterization of the term currently
used. In historical context this layout would deserve the name
traditional, as non-PC BSD installations did not _require_ a
MBR enclosing to be present - this is a concept introduced by
the PC world. Most PCs still work with dedicated perfectly
well if desired (even though there is no real reason to use
that layout approach).

I try to avoid the part dangerously because the danger is
only significant in non-BSD land, like some obscure systems
that could try to repair something and cause data loss,
which is well known and feared... :-)



 Most of the rest of the world used MBR partitioning, which allowed up to 
 four MBR partitions (called slices by FreeBSD) per disk.

Those are, precisely called DOS primary partitions (in difference
to DOS extended partitions which somehow behave like slices in
BSD terminology). :-)



 Yes, one partition format inside another.  It only seems complicated 
 because it is.

Which makes it useful and flexible. :-)



 With GPT, there is no reason to use BSD disklabels at all.

And most modern computers do not have any problem booting it.
The old MBR approach (as well as dedicated) will probably only
be needed in niche applications and exceptions. You can have
all the advantages of being easy stuff known from dedicated
layout by using the GPT tools, plus you gain more compatibility
if this matters.



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What is Negative permissions

2013-09-23 Thread Leslie Jensen


In the daily security run I see the following:



Checking setuid files and devices:

Checking negative group permissions:
3791965 -rwxr--r-x  1 admin  wheel  172 Mar  9 10:59:55 2011
 /usr/home/admin/bin/noip_update.sh


Is it just a reminder that the group has no x permissions or should I 
give those permissions?


Thanks

/Leslie
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Re: What is Negative permissions

2013-09-23 Thread Frank Leonhardt

On 23/09/2013 11:54, Leslie Jensen wrote:


In the daily security run I see the following:



Checking setuid files and devices:

Checking negative group permissions:
3791965 -rwxr--r-x  1 admin  wheel  172 Mar  9 10:59:55 2011
 /usr/home/admin/bin/noip_update.sh


Is it just a reminder that the group has no x permissions or should I 
give those permissions?


Yes, basically. It's obviously very odd to give everyone OTHER than 
:wheel members permission to run it. What about user root in group wheel 
- is root allowed to run it? Actually, yes, even though you might think 
you've forbidden members of wheel.


Regards, Frank.

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vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Miller, Vincent (Rick)
Hi all,

There are only 30 more days left to register for Verisign's vBSDcon.  Online 
registrations will become unavailable October 23, 2013.  For those planning to 
attend, we encourage you to register soon at http://www.vbsdcon.com/.  You will 
not want to miss this event.  There will presentations by several well seasoned 
technologists such as Baptiste Darroussin on the subject of PkgNG, a new 
packaging system for FreeBSD based system such as FreeBSD, PC-BSD, and 
Dragonfly BSD.

Baptiste has a background in UNIX Systems Engineering and is involved in 
multiple facets of the FreeBSD project including being a Ports committer for 3 
years and a src committer for 2 years. His involvement also includes being a 
member of the Port management team. PkgNG, a new package management framework 
for FreeBSD, is one of Baptiste's primary roles where he is a lead developer.

In addition to plenary speakers, vBSDcon will also feature after conference 
hours Hacker Lounges and Doc Sprints.  These sessions will be available for the 
entire BSD communities to include NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and other BSD based 
distributions to have a collaborative space to work and communicate with one 
another.  Complimentary wireless internet access will also be available.

We look forward to seeing you all there for this opportunity to come together 
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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-23 Thread Robert Simmons
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 With GPT, there is no reason to use BSD disklabels at all.

 And most modern computers do not have any problem booting it.
 The old MBR approach (as well as dedicated) will probably only
 be needed in niche applications and exceptions. You can have
 all the advantages of being easy stuff known from dedicated
 layout by using the GPT tools, plus you gain more compatibility
 if this matters.

Not entirely. Due to GEOM specs, if you create a GELI encrypted
container, you cannot use GPT partitioning inside that container. You
must use BSD. This is an edge case, and I've submitted a bug about it
a while ago, but like I just said, this is apparently a feature not a
bug.
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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Brett Glass

All:

It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I 
have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among 
them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the 
development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign, 
based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home 
of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency. The NSA, in 
turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden 
-- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of 
cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating 
systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the 
mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code 
that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses.


--Brett Glass

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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Michael Powell
Brett Glass wrote:

 All:
 
 It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I
 have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among
 them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the
 development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign,
 based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home
 of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency.

No. I used to work right down the street from Network Solutions (now known 
as Verisign) in Herndon. Indeed, I had job offerings from them but felt I was 
better off to stay where I was. The NSA is headquartered at Ft Meade, near 
Columbia in Maryland. I worked there for 8 years? The CIA headquarters is in 
Mclean, Virgina, which is right next door to Vienna. Reston/Herndon is a few 
miles down the Dulles Toll Rd to the west. I've been to all these places, so 
this is not some MapQuest google for me.

 The NSA, in
 turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden
 -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of
 cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating
 systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the
 mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code
 that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses.

On some level I agree with this - to a point. Examine how the NSA maneuvered 
the NIST to approve and mandate the FIPS-140 protocols, where deeply 
concealed was a known weak prng. To some of us this is not news - we've 
known it for a long time. Arguments of pro vs con, good vs evil, ad 
infinitum ad nauseum, etc, are better served in a different venue.

It is so much easier to get away with concealing such things inside the 
closed-source paradigm. What I like and admire with open source is the code 
is out there in public for all to examine. These truly arcane crypto stuffs 
operate at such a high level of mathematical complexity that even very 
highly skilled cryptographer/mathematicians argue amongst themselves.

I am just not that smart, or that highly educated. There are some in the 
open source community who do have very large propellers on their beanie 
caps. I defer to them simply because they are smarter then me. I would trust 
them long before I would trust closed source. 

I agree about the 'looking the gift horse in the mouth' concept. Bear in 
mind, however, some of the guys at NIST are pretty smart too. And yet this 
FIPS-140/prng stuff went right by them. My suggestion is for FreeBSD (indeed 
open source in general) to try and engage, include, and attract to the 
community the kinds of elite mathematician who may have the facilities to 
examine the code at a higher level than can dummies like me.  

Whenever The Citadel wants the public to fixate on any one particular 
brouhaha I know they are trying to get everyone looking in a particular 
direction whilst they are pulling something else. Verisign may very well 
have some other obfuscated agenda. Take a step backwards and try to obtain 
some view of the bigger picture (hint). Will not elaborate here, even though 
I do have some crackpot ideas. 

I find it highly ironic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_%28character%29#Snowden

I got no end of amusement from this.  Just my $ 0.02. 

-Mike



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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Robert Simmons
Any contribution from a company like Verisign needs to be carefully
scrutinized. I also don't think it wise to allow them to take a
leadership role of any type.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Brett Glass wrote:

 All:

 It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I
 have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among
 them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the
 development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign,
 based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home
 of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency.

 No. I used to work right down the street from Network Solutions (now known
 as Verisign) in Herndon. Indeed, I had job offerings from them but felt I was
 better off to stay where I was. The NSA is headquartered at Ft Meade, near
 Columbia in Maryland. I worked there for 8 years? The CIA headquarters is in
 Mclean, Virgina, which is right next door to Vienna. Reston/Herndon is a few
 miles down the Dulles Toll Rd to the west. I've been to all these places, so
 this is not some MapQuest google for me.

 The NSA, in
 turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden
 -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of
 cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating
 systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the
 mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code
 that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses.

 On some level I agree with this - to a point. Examine how the NSA maneuvered
 the NIST to approve and mandate the FIPS-140 protocols, where deeply
 concealed was a known weak prng. To some of us this is not news - we've
 known it for a long time. Arguments of pro vs con, good vs evil, ad
 infinitum ad nauseum, etc, are better served in a different venue.

 It is so much easier to get away with concealing such things inside the
 closed-source paradigm. What I like and admire with open source is the code
 is out there in public for all to examine. These truly arcane crypto stuffs
 operate at such a high level of mathematical complexity that even very
 highly skilled cryptographer/mathematicians argue amongst themselves.

 I am just not that smart, or that highly educated. There are some in the
 open source community who do have very large propellers on their beanie
 caps. I defer to them simply because they are smarter then me. I would trust
 them long before I would trust closed source.

 I agree about the 'looking the gift horse in the mouth' concept. Bear in
 mind, however, some of the guys at NIST are pretty smart too. And yet this
 FIPS-140/prng stuff went right by them. My suggestion is for FreeBSD (indeed
 open source in general) to try and engage, include, and attract to the
 community the kinds of elite mathematician who may have the facilities to
 examine the code at a higher level than can dummies like me.

 Whenever The Citadel wants the public to fixate on any one particular
 brouhaha I know they are trying to get everyone looking in a particular
 direction whilst they are pulling something else. Verisign may very well
 have some other obfuscated agenda. Take a step backwards and try to obtain
 some view of the bigger picture (hint). Will not elaborate here, even though
 I do have some crackpot ideas.

 I find it highly ironic:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_%28character%29#Snowden

 I got no end of amusement from this.  Just my $ 0.02.

 -Mike



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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, 
Good points in Brett  Michael's posts, but for brevity not copied.

Best avoid having code written  reviewed just in USA as it would get less
trust globaly, NSA is a known alien mega spy,  USA even coerces non USA 
citizens outside USA, eg
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/01/gary-mckinnon-extradition-nightmare
 
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard

Best encourage FreeBSD sources to be used  suspiciously reviewed by a
variety of programmers  mathematicians/ cryptologists from different
backgrounds  countries;  
  Max chance of loophole reporting with more people from a spectrum
  of countries with rival mutualy distrusting governments from such
  as eg { Britain, China, France, Germany, Israel, North Korea,
  Russia, Syria, USA } etc.

Presumably nearly all of us are cluless on crypto. math. so meantime
encourage involvement of citizens of at least a few different
dis-trusting countries.

Kernels perhaps have less reviewers than cross-OS S/W eg GPG 
Open-SSH etc, so kernels might be target of choice of suborners ?

Maybe FreeBSD Foundation could set up a cheap bonus scheme for security
bugs exposed/ fixed - Special edition coffee mugs, non purchasable,
sent only as a reward, posted globaly free.

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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 20:00 -0400, Robert Simmons wrote:
 Any contribution from a company like Verisign needs to be carefully
 scrutinized.

No it has to be turned down flat.

Huge companies from the USA at all events are untrustworthy. The only
trustworthy companies are such companies: I have been forced to make a
difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American
people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down
Lavabit. - http://lavabit.com/

Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of
releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal
prosecutor's office had sent Levinson's lawyer an e-mail to that
effect. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

There can't be any doubts about it, Verisign will do what they can do to
make FreeBSD insecure. Nothing good will contributed by them. Not a
single big company from the USA does not cooperate with the NSA, they
all cooperate with the NSA.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-23 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, Robert Simmons wrote:


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

With GPT, there is no reason to use BSD disklabels at all.


And most modern computers do not have any problem booting it.
The old MBR approach (as well as dedicated) will probably only
be needed in niche applications and exceptions. You can have
all the advantages of being easy stuff known from dedicated
layout by using the GPT tools, plus you gain more compatibility
if this matters.


Not entirely. Due to GEOM specs, if you create a GELI encrypted
container, you cannot use GPT partitioning inside that container. You
must use BSD. This is an edge case, and I've submitted a bug about it
a while ago, but like I just said, this is apparently a feature not a
bug.


It's not GEOM, it's just GPT.  By specification, the backup partition 
table has to be at the end of the disk.  That interferes with anything 
else that wants to put metadata there, like GELI or gmirror.

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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-22 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:53:36 -0700
Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 .. just as a data point - there was a thread a while ago about numeric
 processing performance on linux vs bsd.
 
 It all boiled down to how jemalloc versus the linux allocator(s) allocate
 blocks. jemalloc will page align things after a certain size. Linux didn't.
 So when doing numeric processing, there was a lot of cache aliasing going
 on leading to inefficient cache usage and redundant memory operations.
 
 When the same workload on Linux was run on FreeBSD but with the Linux
 library/allocators, the performance was identical.
 
 No-one followed through. I think I may have to write a blog post about it.

There's no MALLOC_OPTIONS flag to set/unset this, but adding a new flag to 
disable a feature is easier (or should be) than implementing new one. The only 
problem I see to this is if the cache align happens at sbrk/mmap level.

 
 
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dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-22 Thread atar

Hi there!!

During the reading of the FreeBSD handbook, I've encountered at the term  
'dangerously dedicated' regarding physical disks and the author of this  
chapter in the FreeBSD handbook didn't think this term need more clarity.  
so for newbies like me in the FreeBSD world I want to ask: what's the  
'dangerously dedicated' term meaning by?


Thanks in advance!

atar.
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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-22 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:16:17 -
atar atar.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there!!
 
 During the reading of the FreeBSD handbook, I've encountered at the term  
 'dangerously dedicated' regarding physical disks and the author of this  
 chapter in the FreeBSD handbook didn't think this term need more clarity.  
 so for newbies like me in the FreeBSD world I want to ask: what's the  
 'dangerously dedicated' term meaning by?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 atar.
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Information is at this (very old) link. Not as scary as it sounds.

http://docs.freebsd.org/doc/2.2.6-RELEASE/usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ103.html
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Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted

2013-09-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Greg  questions@ etc

 That's massively out of date.  Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has
 been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years.

OK deleted.

  Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286
 
 That's out of date too.  I left Adelaide over 6 years ago.  Up-to-date
 information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ .

OK Updated.

  Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-)
  I've cc'd them both
 
 Thanks.  Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've
 found somebody for him.

Good :-)

  PS for other consultants:
  If you want to be added to geographic indexed table
  just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty
  See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/
 
 It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this
 list and help you get it up to date.

Updates welcome, preferably in format  diff -c

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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-22 Thread atar

Thanks. it helps a little to clarify this term.
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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-22 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 22 Sep 2013, atar wrote:

During the reading of the FreeBSD handbook, I've encountered at the term 
'dangerously dedicated' regarding physical disks and the author of this 
chapter in the FreeBSD handbook didn't think this term need more clarity. so 
for newbies like me in the FreeBSD world I want to ask: what's the 
'dangerously dedicated' term meaning by?


The term refers to a disk partitioned with only the BSD disklabel 
partition table:


  disk ada0
partition a (ada0a, /)
partition b (ada0b, swap)
partition d (ada0d, /var)
partition e (ada0e, /tmp)
partition f (ada0f, /usr)

It's dangerous because that partitioning format is rare outside of 
BSD-based systems.  Disk utilities may not recognize it, and could

damage it.

Most of the rest of the world used MBR partitioning, which allowed up to 
four MBR partitions (called slices by FreeBSD) per disk.


Since four slices is not enough for the standard FreeBSD disk layout, 
with /, swap, /var, /tmp, and /usr, the standard procedure is to use MBR 
partitioning, with the MBR partitions (slices) being sub-partitioned 
by a BSD disklabel.


  disk ada0
MBR slice 1 (ada0s1)
  partition a (ada0s1a, /)
  partition b (ada0s1b, swap)
  partition d (ada0s1d, /var)
  partition e (ada0s1e, /tmp)
  partition f (ada0s1f, /usr)
   MBR slice 2 (ada0s2)
  ...

Yes, one partition format inside another.  It only seems complicated 
because it is.


GPT is the new partitioning format, which makes things much simpler by 
being capable of up to 128 partitions in the standard configuration. 
With GPT, there is no reason to use BSD disklabels at all.


  disk ada0
GPT partition 1 (ada0p1, bootcode)
GPT partition 2 (ada0p2, /)
GPT partition 3 (ada0p3, swap)
GPT partition 4 (ada0p4, /var)
GPT partition 5 (ada0p5, /tmp)
GPT partition 6 (ada0p6, /usr)

Summary: Dangerously dedicated partitioning has no unique advantages. 
Use GPT when possible, use MBR/disklabel when necessary.

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Re: dangerously dedicated physical disks.

2013-09-22 Thread atar
Thank you very much about your efforts to explain me in detailed the  
'dangerous dedicated' term.


Regards,

atar.

Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:


On Sun, 22 Sep 2013, atar wrote:

During the reading of the FreeBSD handbook, I've encountered at the  
term 'dangerously dedicated' regarding physical disks and the author of  
this chapter in the FreeBSD handbook didn't think this term need more  
clarity. so for newbies like me in the FreeBSD world I want to ask:  
what's the 'dangerously dedicated' term meaning by?


The term refers to a disk partitioned with only the BSD disklabel  
partition table:


   disk ada0
 partition a (ada0a, /)
 partition b (ada0b, swap)
 partition d (ada0d, /var)
 partition e (ada0e, /tmp)
 partition f (ada0f, /usr)

It's dangerous because that partitioning format is rare outside of  
BSD-based systems.  Disk utilities may not recognize it, and could

damage it.

Most of the rest of the world used MBR partitioning, which allowed up to  
four MBR partitions (called slices by FreeBSD) per disk.


Since four slices is not enough for the standard FreeBSD disk layout,  
with /, swap, /var, /tmp, and /usr, the standard procedure is to use MBR  
partitioning, with the MBR partitions (slices) being sub-partitioned  
by a BSD disklabel.


   disk ada0
 MBR slice 1 (ada0s1)
   partition a (ada0s1a, /)
   partition b (ada0s1b, swap)
   partition d (ada0s1d, /var)
   partition e (ada0s1e, /tmp)
   partition f (ada0s1f, /usr)
MBR slice 2 (ada0s2)
   ...

Yes, one partition format inside another.  It only seems complicated  
because it is.


GPT is the new partitioning format, which makes things much simpler by  
being capable of up to 128 partitions in the standard configuration.  
With GPT, there is no reason to use BSD disklabels at all.


   disk ada0
 GPT partition 1 (ada0p1, bootcode)
 GPT partition 2 (ada0p2, /)
 GPT partition 3 (ada0p3, swap)
 GPT partition 4 (ada0p4, /var)
 GPT partition 5 (ada0p5, /tmp)
 GPT partition 6 (ada0p6, /usr)

Summary: Dangerously dedicated partitioning has no unique advantages.  
Use GPT when possible, use MBR/disklabel when necessary.

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Unban my second address from the mailing list

2013-09-22 Thread David Demelier
Hi,

A long time ago, my domain malikania.fr has been banned because of lot
bounces, now the server is working and running.

I sometime send some PR directly from my server using this domain, thus
I would like to be unbanned (the mail wasn't sent and postfix was saying
that my domain is forbidden...).

Can you unban my domain please? If I don't post to the good
mailing-list, just le me know.

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Re: rctl within jail

2013-09-22 Thread David Demelier
On 22.09.2013 15:45, Fbsd8 wrote:
 David Demelier wrote:
 Hello there,

 I wanted to use rctl within a jail to add more fine grained setting for
 some users, and default ones to. But it does not seem to work. Is it
 supported? Do we need to add a special flag to the jail creation?

 # rctl -a loginclass:default:maxproc:deny=30
 rctl: rctl_add_rule: Operation not permitted

 Regards,

 David
 
 The rctl command is brand new. It does not have a group of users yet, so
 that is why you have not received any replies to your post.
 
 As far as I know you can not issue the rctl command from within the
 running jail.
 
 The rctl command is issued on the HOST only.
 
 You can apply rules to an entire jail if you want to, for example; to
 limit the amount of memory a jail can use:
 
 # rctl -a jail:jailname:memoryuse:deny=1G
 
 (where jailname is the name of your jail). This would make sure the
 jail can't use more than (approximately) 1 gigabyte of memory.
 
 To enable rctl on the host, you need to compile a custom kernel that
 contains the following 2 parameters;
 options RACCT
 options RCTL
 

Yes, I will also post a PR for this because no manpage is saying that
you requires this on your kernel.

I will provide a new manpage and a bit more documentation.

 I think your rctl command would look like this when issued from the host
 rctl -a jail:jailname:loginclass:default:maxproc:deny=30
 

What I really want, is to avoid users to spawn too much processes (aka
fork bombs). But if I apply to the jail directly, it also apply to the
services jails, which is a bit not wanted.

Regards,
David
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Re: rctl within jail

2013-09-22 Thread Fbsd8

David Demelier wrote:

Hello there,

I wanted to use rctl within a jail to add more fine grained setting for
some users, and default ones to. But it does not seem to work. Is it
supported? Do we need to add a special flag to the jail creation?

# rctl -a loginclass:default:maxproc:deny=30
rctl: rctl_add_rule: Operation not permitted

Regards,

David


The rctl command is brand new. It does not have a group of users yet, so 
that is why you have not received any replies to your post.


As far as I know you can not issue the rctl command from within the 
running jail.


The rctl command is issued on the HOST only.

You can apply rules to an entire jail if you want to, for example; to 
limit the amount of memory a jail can use:


# rctl -a jail:jailname:memoryuse:deny=1G

(where jailname is the name of your jail). This would make sure the 
jail can't use more than (approximately) 1 gigabyte of memory.


To enable rctl on the host, you need to compile a custom kernel that 
contains the following 2 parameters;

options RACCT
options RCTL

I think your rctl command would look like this when issued from the host
rctl -a jail:jailname:loginclass:default:maxproc:deny=30






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Re: Unban my second address from the mailing list

2013-09-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
David Demelier wrote:
 Hi,
 
 A long time ago, my domain malikania.fr has been banned because of lot
 bounces, now the server is working and running.
 
 I sometime send some PR directly from my server using this domain, thus
 I would like to be unbanned (the mail wasn't sent and postfix was saying
 that my domain is forbidden...).
 
 Can you unban my domain please? If I don't post to the good
 mailing-list, just le me know.

No, it's not correct to mail the list for this.
For list specific issues:
Most lists on Internet use conventions of
owner-LISTNAME@
or  LISTNAME-owner@
(often admins alias one to the other so both work), 
so if you get a bounce, mail the other)

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
also lists:
moderators at freebsd.org

But in this case as it's a domain issue, mail
postmas...@freebsd.org

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Re: Unban my second address from the mailing list

2013-09-22 Thread David Demelier
On 22.09.2013 22:02, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 David Demelier wrote:
 Hi,

 A long time ago, my domain malikania.fr has been banned because of lot
 bounces, now the server is working and running.

 I sometime send some PR directly from my server using this domain, thus
 I would like to be unbanned (the mail wasn't sent and postfix was saying
 that my domain is forbidden...).

 Can you unban my domain please? If I don't post to the good
 mailing-list, just le me know.
 
 No, it's not correct to mail the list for this.
 For list specific issues:
   Most lists on Internet use conventions of
   owner-LISTNAME@
   or  LISTNAME-owner@
   (often admins alias one to the other so both work), 
   so if you get a bounce, mail the other)
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
   also lists:
   moderators at freebsd.org
 
 But in this case as it's a domain issue, mail
   postmas...@freebsd.org
 
 Cheers,
 Julian
 

Okay thanks, I'll forward the original message !

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Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted

2013-09-21 Thread Danny Beger
I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build 
/ purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd.

Can you recommend anyone?

Regards

_ _
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p: 8362 6400  |  f: 8362 3555
www.beger.com.au


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Re: sound settings

2013-09-21 Thread Ajtim
On Friday 20 September 2013 20:54:08 Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote:
 On Friday 20 September 2013 14:26:08 Ajtim wrote:
  Hi!
  My system is FreeBSD 10.0-ALPHA1 #0 r255501: Fri Sep 13 01:57:31 UTC 2013
  r...@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 installed on
  iMac
  11,1.
  It works very good but I don't know how to setup sound system.
  After start system:
  cat /dev/sndstat
  Installed devices:
  pcm0: ATI R6xx (HDMI) (play)
  pcm1: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Internal Analog 4.0/2.0) (play/rec) default
  pcm2: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog) (play/rec)
  pcm3: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital) (play/rec)
 
 You have 4 devices where the sound can go
 
 which one has the speakers pluged in, you especify with (as root)
 
 # sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=n
 
 test sending a file to the sound system
 
 % cat filename  /dev/dsp
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I did but it doesn't work. Computer is iMac. And I found somewhere that hints 
should be in device.hints but I fon't know how to setup them.
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Sockstat Output

2013-09-21 Thread Robert Simmons
There are a few lines in the output of sockstat related to sshd and
pflogd that all have ??:
admin1   sshd   942   4  stream - ??
root sshd   939   5  stream - ??
_pflogd  pflogd 552   5  stream - ??
root pflogd 548   4  stream - ??

Are these normal? Why the ??
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Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted

2013-09-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference:
 From: Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au 
 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930 

Danny Beger wrote:
 I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to 
 build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 
 freebsd.
 
 Can you recommend anyone?

Happily,
http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html
shows 
Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493
Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286
Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-)
I've cc'd them both

PS for other consultants: 
If you want to be added to geographic indexed table
just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty
See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/

 
 Regards
 
 _ _
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 p: 8362 6400  |  f: 8362 3555
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Re: e2fsprogs fails to build/compile in FreeBSD 9.1

2013-09-21 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:25:12 -0500
Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:


 /usr/local/lib/libintl.a(dcigettext.o): In function `_nl_find_msg':
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0x94b): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0x9fa): undefined reference to `libiconv'
 dcigettext.c:(.text+0xbaf): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
 /usr/local/lib/libintl.a(relocatable.o): In function
 `libintl_set_relocation_prefix':
 relocatable.c:(.text+0x14b): undefined reference to
 `libiconv_set_relocation_prefix'

 
 Ideas, advice, suggestions, will be greatly appreciated.

Perhaps libiconv.so you have installed is newer or older than e2fsprogs need.

I remember some moths ago that libiconv was updated and had a similar issuse 
with fuse msdosfs. Don't know how I fixed it sorry.

You can try a portmaster -w libiconv

 
 Best Regards,
 
 
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Wildly different numbers of portsnap updates between i386 and amd64?

2013-09-21 Thread Christian Campbell
Hi. I run 9.1-RELEASE on two boxes: one i386 and the other amd64. I've run
the latter for a bit over a week. When I portsnap update, the 32-bit
machine typically gets several to dozens or hundreds of updates, while the
64-bit machine typically gets none, or maybe a couple. What might be the
explanation for this behaviour?

Thank you,
Christian

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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
.. just as a data point - there was a thread a while ago about numeric
processing performance on linux vs bsd.

It all boiled down to how jemalloc versus the linux allocator(s) allocate
blocks. jemalloc will page align things after a certain size. Linux didn't.
So when doing numeric processing, there was a lot of cache aliasing going
on leading to inefficient cache usage and redundant memory operations.

When the same workload on Linux was run on FreeBSD but with the Linux
library/allocators, the performance was identical.

No-one followed through. I think I may have to write a blog post about it.


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Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted

2013-09-21 Thread Al Plant

Danny Beger wrote:

I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build 
/ purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd.

Can you recommend anyone?

Regards

_ _
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Aloha,

I believe Greg Lehey is in Australia.

g...@freebsd.org

I have seen several others on the list at different times too.

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Re: Wildly different numbers of portsnap updates between i386 and amd64?

2013-09-21 Thread Robert Simmons
The update is a delta from what is already on your system. When you
updated the older box, you pulled in lots of changes to get it
current. The newer box needed fewer updates to get current.

Or something is wrong. You can always delete the contents of /ports
and the database in /var/db/portsnap. Then just portsnap fetch 
portsnap extract. You will get a fresh ports tree.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Christian Campbell
dc...@alumni.ufl.edu wrote:
 Hi. I run 9.1-RELEASE on two boxes: one i386 and the other amd64. I've run
 the latter for a bit over a week. When I portsnap update, the 32-bit
 machine typically gets several to dozens or hundreds of updates, while the
 64-bit machine typically gets none, or maybe a couple. What might be the
 explanation for this behaviour?

 Thank you,
 Christian

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Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted

2013-09-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I considered dropping FreeBSD-questions from this reply, but since it
contains out-of-date contact details, I'm leaving them in.

On Saturday, 21 September 2013 at 17:17:07 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 Hi, Reference:
 From:Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au
 Date:Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930

 Danny Beger wrote:

 I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage
 someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current
 server which runs v6 freebsd.

 Can you recommend anyone?

 Happily,
 http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html
 shows
 Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493

That's massively out of date.  Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has
been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years.

 Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286

That's out of date too.  I left Adelaide over 6 years ago.  Up-to-date
information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ .

 Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-)
 I've cc'd them both

Thanks.  Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've
found somebody for him.

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 If you want to be added to geographic indexed table
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It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this
list and help you get it up to date.

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geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-09-20 Thread yudi v
Hi,

I managed to install with geli+root on ZFS setup but have a few
questions.  Most of the instructions just list commands but offer very
little explanation.
I adapted the instructions in
https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE  to suit my needs.

Here's the process I used for the test on a VM:

2 GB RAM
two HDDs 8 GB each mirrored - three partitions

for boot code 128 KB
for /boot 2 GB
for the rest of the system and encrypted

no key file for encrypted partitions, only passphrase
using 9.1-RELEASE
there will be no swap or handling of 4k drives, just to keep it as simple
as possible.

*Create the basic three partitions:*


gpart destroy -F da0
gpart destroy -F da1
gpart create -s gpt da0
gpart create -s gpt da1
gpart add -s 128 -t freebsd-boot da0
gpart add -s 128 -t freebsd-boot da1
gpart add -s 2G -t freebsd-zfs da0
gpart add -s 2G -t freebsd-zfs da1
gpart add -t freebsd-zfs da0
gpart add -t freebsd-zfs da1

*Write boot code to both disks:*

gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 da0
gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 da1

*Load necessary modules:*

kldload zfs
kldload geom_eli
*
Encrypt the disks with only a passphrase:*

geli init -b -s 4096 /dev/da0p3
geli init -b -s 4096 /dev/da1p3

geli attach /dev/da0p3
geli attach /dev/da1p3

*Creating ZFS datasets:*

zpool create bootdir mirror /dev/da0p2 /dev/da1p2
zpool set bootfs=bootdir bootdir

zpool create -R /mnt -O canmount=off tank mirror /dev/da0p3.eli
/dev/da1p3.eli
zfs create -o mountpoint=/tank/ROOT
zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/bootdirbootdir
zfs mount bootdir

*Then exit out of the shell and go back to bsdinstall. Install as normal
and then get back to the shell after bsdinstall finishes ( do not reboot
yet).*

Once in the newly installed system:

mount -t devfs devfs /dev   ( to use ZFS commands in the new environment)

*Add the necessary variables/settings:*

echo ‘zfs_enable=”YES”‘  /etc/rc.conf
echo ‘vfs.root.mountfrom=”zfs:tank/ROOT”‘   /boot/loader.conf
echo ‘zfs_load=”YES”‘  /boot/loader.conf
echo ‘geom_eli_load=”YES”‘  /boot/loader.conf

*Then create a zpool cache file:*

 zpool set cachefile=/boot/zfs/zpool.cache tank.

*Then move the boot folder to the second partition under the bootdir
dataset:*

mv boot bootdir/
*
Then set the final mount points:*

zfs set mountpoint=legacy tank
zfs set mountpoint=/bootdir bootdir

*then reboot.*
It should boot fine into the new system.

-  My questions:  -

*1.*   Almost all the guides  I came across, do not install to the root
dataset, they only seem to use it to derive/mount other
datasets/filesystems.
One of the reasons is to user boot environments, what are the other
possible reasons for doing this?



*2*.   Is it necessary to create a symbolic link to the /boot dir? Again
one of the howtos on the web had this step (
https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/05/06/full-disk-encryption-with-zfs-root-for-freebsd-9-x/
).

ln -fs bootdir/boot

*3*.   This below option is where I had most trouble. This definitely needs
to be present when using geli+ZFS, if it's only ZFS, then I think the
bootfs flag suffices. Can someone with more knowledge of this please shed
some light on when this entry is needed.

vfs.root.mountfrom=”zfs:tank/ROOT”

*4.* In the wiki link above, what is the purpose of:

# zfs set mountpoint=/  zroot/ROOT
# zfs set mountpoint=/zroot zroot

I cannot understand the logic behind the second command.
Does that mean zroot  will display under / (root of the filesystem)?  and
Why?

looking at the rest of the commands:

# zfs set mountpoint=/tmp zroot/tmp
 # zfs set mountpoint=/usr zroot/usr
 # zfs set mountpoint=/var zroot/var

so if ROOT is set to /
then tmp, usr and var all appear under ROOT, is that right?


*5.* There seems to be lot of variation on how the system directories are
mounted under ZFS. In the above wiki link, there seems to be separate
filesystems created under the root dataset for usr, var, tmp, usr/home 
  What's the logic? Are there any general guidelines/best practice
instructions?



Thank you.
Yudi
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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-20 Thread Vincent Schut
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:05:14 -0700 (PDT)
Dennis Glatting d...@pki2.com wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Vincent Schut wrote:
 
  On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:08:43 -0500
  Michael Chen mich...@foxbatcapital.com wrote:
 
  I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:
 
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc
 
  Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?
 
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  I recently bought one like that (48 cores but 'only' 96 Gb ram). It
  was meant to play a double role as both zfs file server and data
  processing server (we do lots of satellite image processing),
  running FreeBSD 9.1. It connects with a SAN and we'll use it to
  process about 36TB of satellite data in the next months. (In a
  couple of weeks we will probably have budget to split those roles,
  and buy a dedicated file server.) After several weeks of tweaking
  and testing, I can say that:
  - the zfs/file server part runs without problems
  - the satellite data processing had problems scaling to all 48
  cores, I got max performance when running about 18 processes in
  parallel, scaling up more would lower the overall performance.
  However, this (sorry guys) appeared to be a FreeBSD problem, and
  not a hardware problem. As a test I switched to linux with ZoL (ZFS
  on Linux), and, though zfs performance is less compared to freebsd,
  data processing is much much better, like a factor 12 or so.
 
 
 I've noticed this same scaling problem on 32+ core servers but
 haven't had a chance to look into the detail. From the performance
 graphs I am confused whether my problems are processing problems or a
 data I/O problem.

I have done some (light) investigation as I did need the processing
power. In my case the bottleneck was definitely not data I/O. Bonnie+
rates from and to the dataset were as expected, top and atop and other
utils did not show any stress on the I/O system, and the algorithm which
did not scale should not be IO bound, rather cpu or memory (or
both). I've heard/read rumors (when I was investigating the extreme
long compile time of openblas on freebsd compared to linux) about bsd
being less well optimized in e.g. using the processor's L2 cache.
Things like this can play an important role in the processing we do
(many numerical calculations on lots of data in memory). Most of the
calculations were done by quite optimized software for numerical
processing (numpy/scipy using openblas (yes I did make sure openblas
used only 1 thread when scaling up)). The fact that the problems
disappeared when running the same under linux also point in the
cpu/memory direction rather that I/O, as the ZFS on Linux performance
is still behind that of ZFS on BSD.

 
 
  Conclusion: the hardware is alright, however when needed to do lots
  of heavy calculations on terabytes of data, the combination with
  FreeBSD appears not ideal.
 
  Of course it is you get what you pay for. Decent, OK working
  hardware, but none of the special handy-dandy features expensive
  brands will give you. If you don't need them, in my experience it
  is decent hardware for a good price.
 
  regards,
  Vincent.
 
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Re: PKGNG

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 09/20/13 05:05, Ethan W. House wrote:
 What is the status of pkgng. The handbook says to use it but else were it
 says that the repos are empty due to a security incident last November.
 
 Are there beta repos hidden somewhere that can be used? The reason I ask is
 I want to install packages like Gimp and LibreOffice which will take a
 fortnight on my laptop to compile. I tried pkg_add but that broke
 everything when I updated to 9.2.

pkgng is in rude health.  It's certainly usable -- you can enable it on
your systems and use it with the ports (portmaster, portupgrade style)
or you can try various repos which are available online.

The systems that will be the official FreeBSD pkg repo are on-line and
available for testing with:

% cat /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/pkg-test.conf
---
pkg-test:
  URL: http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest
  ENABLED: YES
  MIRROR_TYPE: SRV


This doesn't have package signatures yet, but otherwise it's pretty much
what will be the official pkg repository for 10.0-RELEASE.

There are other publicly available pkg repos, such as the one provided
by Exonetric which is at

http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest

Cheers,

Matthew
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Re: PKGNG

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 09/20/13 10:59, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
 The following links are not accessible ( at least from Turkey ) :
 
 http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/
 http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-amd64/
 http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-i386/
 

pkg-test.freebsd.org is a SRV record, not an A record[*].  pkg(8) will
be able to find the repo given the information I showed.

Also ${ABI} in pkg.conf expands to a string like freebsd:9:x86:64 which
includes more than just the CPU architecture.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] This usage is not in compliance with RFC 2616 so the URL will need
to be changed at some point.  See https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/550


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e2fsprogs fails to build/compile in FreeBSD 9.1

2013-09-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/resize'
CC extent.c
CC resize2fs.c
CC main.c
CC online.c
CC resource_track.c
CC sim_progress.c
CC test_extent.c
SUBST resize2fs.8
LD test_extent
LD resize2fs
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/resize'
making all in tests/progs
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/tests/progs'
CC test_icount.c
MK_CMDS test_icount_cmds.c
CC crcsum.c
CC test_icount_cmds.c
LD crcsum
LD test_icount
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/tests/progs'
making all in po
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/po'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/po'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
gmake docs
gmake[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/doc'
MAKEINFO libext2fs.info
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/doc'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8'
cd /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs/work/e2fsprogs-1.42.8/e2fsck 
/bin/rm -f e2fsck   gmake e2fsck  STATIC_LIBS=../lib/libext2fs.a
../lib/libcom_err.a  ../lib/libblkid.a  ../lib/libuuid.a
LIBINTL=/usr/local/lib/libintl.a
LD e2fsck
/usr/local/lib/libintl.a(dcigettext.o): In function `_nl_find_msg':
dcigettext.c:(.text+0x94b): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
dcigettext.c:(.text+0x9fa): undefined reference to `libiconv'
dcigettext.c:(.text+0xbaf): undefined reference to `libiconv_open'
/usr/local/lib/libintl.a(relocatable.o): In function
`libintl_set_relocation_prefix':
relocatable.c:(.text+0x14b): undefined reference to
`libiconv_set_relocation_prefix'
gmake: *** [e2fsck] Error 1
*** [post-build] Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs.
*** [build] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs.

=== make failed for sysutils/e2fsprogs
=== Aborting update

=== Update for sysutils/e2fsprogs failed
=== Aborting update

=== Killing background jobs
Terminated





Ideas, advice, suggestions, will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,


Antonio
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SES tools and RRD perhaps?

2013-09-20 Thread aurfalien
Hi all,

1) Any one have a way to monitor fan speeds/temp of a JBOD connected via a SAS 
cable?

2) Any one integrate SES into something like Cacti or Zabbix?

I know the later is sort of not FreeBSD specific but this list has many a guru 
lurking.

Thanks in advance,

- aurf
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Re: SES tools and RRD perhaps?

2013-09-20 Thread aurfalien

On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Juan Bernhard wrote:

 El 20/09/2013 03:48 p.m., aurfalien escribió:
 Hi all,
 
 1) Any one have a way to monitor fan speeds/temp of a JBOD connected via a 
 SAS cable?
 You can get disk temperature by sysutils/smartmontools, and motherboard fans 
 sysutils/mbmon (assuming that your fans are connected to the motherboard)
 
 2) Any one integrate SES into something like Cacti or Zabbix?
 I don't know what SES means

Its SCSI Enclosure Services and commands like getencstat can see my JBODs, just 
unsure how I can get more granular info.

I'll try to see if the tools you listed detect the JBODs.

Thanks for that.

- aurf
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Re: PKGNG

2013-09-20 Thread Ethan W. House
Thanks, that was exactly the information I was looking for.

Ethan House


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Matthew Seaman 
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 On 09/20/13 05:05, Ethan W. House wrote:
  What is the status of pkgng. The handbook says to use it but else were it
  says that the repos are empty due to a security incident last November.
 
  Are there beta repos hidden somewhere that can be used? The reason I ask
 is
  I want to install packages like Gimp and LibreOffice which will take a
  fortnight on my laptop to compile. I tried pkg_add but that broke
  everything when I updated to 9.2.

 pkgng is in rude health.  It's certainly usable -- you can enable it on
 your systems and use it with the ports (portmaster, portupgrade style)
 or you can try various repos which are available online.

 The systems that will be the official FreeBSD pkg repo are on-line and
 available for testing with:

 % cat /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/pkg-test.conf
 ---
 pkg-test:
   URL: http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest
   ENABLED: YES
   MIRROR_TYPE: SRV


 This doesn't have package signatures yet, but otherwise it's pretty much
 what will be the official pkg repository for 10.0-RELEASE.

 There are other publicly available pkg repos, such as the one provided
 by Exonetric which is at

 http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest

 Cheers,

 Matthew
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Re: SES tools and RRD perhaps?

2013-09-20 Thread Juan Bernhard

El 20/09/2013 03:48 p.m., aurfalien escribió:

Hi all,

1) Any one have a way to monitor fan speeds/temp of a JBOD connected via a SAS 
cable?
You can get disk temperature by sysutils/smartmontools, and motherboard 
fans sysutils/mbmon (assuming that your fans are connected to the 
motherboard)


2) Any one integrate SES into something like Cacti or Zabbix?

I don't know what SES means


I know the later is sort of not FreeBSD specific but this list has many a guru 
lurking.

Thanks in advance,

- aurf
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sound settings

2013-09-20 Thread Ajtim
Hi!
My system is FreeBSD 10.0-ALPHA1 #0 r255501: Fri Sep 13 01:57:31 UTC 2013 
r...@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 installed on iMac 
11,1.
It works very good but I don't know how to setup sound system.
After start system:
cat /dev/sndstat
Installed devices:
pcm0: ATI R6xx (HDMI) (play)
pcm1: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Internal Analog 4.0/2.0) (play/rec) default
pcm2: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog) (play/rec)
pcm3: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital) (play/rec)

Than I run sysctl dev.hdaa:

dev.hdaa.0.%desc: ATI R6xx Audio Function Group
dev.hdaa.0.%driver: hdaa
dev.hdaa.0.%location: nid=1
dev.hdaa.0.%pnpinfo: type=0x01 subsystem=0x00aa0100
dev.hdaa.0.%parent: hdacc0
dev.hdaa.0.nid2: audio output
Widget cap: 0x0201 DIGITAL STEREO
Association: 0 (0x0001)
OSS: pcm (pcm)
Stream cap: 0x0001 PCM
PCM cap: 0x00020070 16 bits, 32 44 48 KHz

dev.hdaa.0.nid3: pin: Digital-out (Jack)
Widget cap: 0x00400381 DIGITAL UNSOL STEREO
Association: 0 (0x0001)
Pin cap: 0x0094 PDC OUT HDMI
Pin config: 0x18560010 as=1 seq=0 device=Digital-out conn=Jack ctype=Digital 
loc=0x18 color=Unknown misc=0
Pin control: 0x0040 OUT
Connections: 1
+ - nid=2 [audio output]

dev.hdaa.0.nid3_config: 0x18560010 as=1 seq=0 device=Digital-out conn=Jack 
ctype=Digital loc=0x18 color=Unknown misc=0
dev.hdaa.0.nid3_original: 0x18560010 as=1 seq=0 device=Digital-out conn=Jack 
ctype=Digital loc=0x18 color=Unknown misc=0
dev.hdaa.0.config: forcestereo,ivref50,ivref80,ivref100,ivref,vref
dev.hdaa.0.gpi_state: 
dev.hdaa.0.gpio_state: 
dev.hdaa.0.gpio_config: 
dev.hdaa.0.gpo_state: 
dev.hdaa.0.gpo_config: 
dev.hdaa.0.reconfig: 0 
dev.hdaa.1.%desc: Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group 
dev.hdaa.1.%driver: hdaa 
dev.hdaa.1.%location: nid=1 
dev.hdaa.1.%pnpinfo: type=0x01 subsystem=0x106b5100 
dev.hdaa.1.%parent: hdacc1 
dev.hdaa.1.nid2: audio output 
Widget cap: 0x000d041d PWR STEREO 
Association: 4 (0x0001) 
OSS: pcm (pcm)
Stream cap: 0x0003 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e07f0 16 20 24 32 bits, 32 44 48 88 96 176 192 KHz
Output amp: 0x80017f73 mute=1 step=127 size=1 offset=115 (-57/6dB)

dev.hdaa.1.nid3: audio output
Widget cap: 0x000d041d PWR STEREO
Association: 3 (0x0001)
OSS: pcm (pcm)
Stream cap: 0x0003 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e07f0 16 20 24 32 bits, 32 44 48 88 96 176 192 KHz
Output amp: 0x80017f73 mute=1 step=127 size=1 offset=115 (-57/6dB)

dev.hdaa.1.nid4: audio output
Widget cap: 0x000d041d PWR STEREO
Association: 3 (0x0004)
OSS: pcm (pcm)
Stream cap: 0x0003 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e07f0 16 20 24 32 bits, 32 44 48 88 96 176 192 KHz
Output amp: 0x80017f73 mute=1 step=127 size=1 offset=115 (-57/6dB)

dev.hdaa.1.nid5: audio input
Widget cap: 0x0018051b PWR STEREO
Association: 1 (0x0001)
Stream cap: 0x0003 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e01f5 16 20 24 32 bits, 8 16 32 44 48 88 96 KHz
Input amp: 0x80033f33 mute=1 step=63 size=3 offset=51 (-51/12dB)
Connections: 2
+ - nid=12 [pin: Line-in (Blue Jack)] (selected)
+ [DISABLED] - nid=18 [pin: Line-out (None)] [DISABLED]

dev.hdaa.1.nid6: audio input
Widget cap: 0x0018051b PWR STEREO
Association: 0 (0x0001)
Stream cap: 0x0003 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e01f5 16 20 24 32 bits, 8 16 32 44 48 88 96 KHz
Input amp: 0x80033f33 mute=1 step=63 size=3 offset=51 (-51/12dB)
Connections: 2
+ - nid=13 [pin: Mic (Fixed)] (selected)
+ [DISABLED] - nid=14 [pin: Line-out (None)] [DISABLED]

dev.hdaa.1.nid7: audio input
Widget cap: 0x00180791 PWR DIGITAL UNSOL STEREO
Association: 2 (0x0001)
Stream cap: 0x0007 AC3 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e0570 16 20 24 32 bits, 32 44 48 96 192 KHz
Connections: 1
+ - nid=15 [pin: SPDIF-in (White Jack)]

dev.hdaa.1.nid8: audio output
Widget cap: 0x00040611 PWR DIGITAL STEREO
Association: 5 (0x0001)
OSS: pcm (pcm)
Stream cap: 0x0007 AC3 FLOAT32 PCM
PCM cap: 0x001e07f0 16 20 24 32 bits, 32 44 48 88 96 176 192 KHz

dev.hdaa.1.nid9: pin: Headphones (Green Jack)
Widget cap: 0x00410581 PWR UNSOL STEREO
Association: 4 (0x0001)
Pin cap: 0x001c PDC HP OUT
Pin config: 0x012b4050 as=5 seq=0 device=Headphones conn=Jack ctype=Combo 
loc=Rear color=Green misc=0
Pin control: 0x00c0 HP OUT
Connections: 1
+ - nid=2 [audio output]

dev.hdaa.1.nid9_config: 0x012b4050 as=5 seq=0 device=Headphones conn=Jack 
ctype=Combo loc=Rear color=Green misc=0
dev.hdaa.1.nid9_original: 0x012b4050 as=5 seq=0 device=Headphones conn=Jack 
ctype=Combo loc=Rear color=Green misc=0
dev.hdaa.1.nid10: pin: Speaker (Fixed)
Widget cap: 0x00410581 PWR UNSOL STEREO
Association: 3 (0x0001)
Pin cap: 0x0054 PDC OUT BAL
Pin config: 0x90100140 as=4 seq=0 device=Speaker conn=Fixed ctype=Unknown 
loc=Internal color=Unknown misc=1
Pin control: 0x0040 OUT
Connections: 1
+ - nid=3 [audio output]

dev.hdaa.1.nid10_config: 0x90100140 as=4 seq=0 device=Speaker conn=Fixed 
ctype=Unknown loc=Internal color=Unknown misc=1
dev.hdaa.1.nid10_original: 0x90100140 as=4 seq=0 device=Speaker conn=Fixed 
ctype=Unknown loc=Internal color=Unknown misc=1
dev.hdaa.1.nid11: pin: Speaker 

Re: sound settings

2013-09-20 Thread Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez
On Friday 20 September 2013 14:26:08 Ajtim wrote:
 Hi!
 My system is FreeBSD 10.0-ALPHA1 #0 r255501: Fri Sep 13 01:57:31 UTC 2013
 r...@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 installed on iMac
 11,1.
 It works very good but I don't know how to setup sound system.
 After start system:
 cat /dev/sndstat
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: ATI R6xx (HDMI) (play)
 pcm1: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Internal Analog 4.0/2.0) (play/rec) default
 pcm2: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog) (play/rec)
 pcm3: Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital) (play/rec)


You have 4 devices where the sound can go

which one has the speakers pluged in, you especify with (as root)

# sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=n

test sending a file to the sound system

% cat filename  /dev/dsp
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vBSDcon Registrations Remain Open!

2013-09-19 Thread Rick Miller
Hi all,

As many of you are aware, the social aspect of BSD-related conferences is
very important and offers opportunities to meet and socialize with one
another.  Maintaining that tradition, Verisign's vBSDcon will feature a
mid-conference social, brought to you exclusively by Juniper, and will be
celebrating 20 years of FreeBSD.  We encourage all attendees to join
Verisign and Juniper to celebrate this milestone for the FreeBSD project.

Conference activities start on October 25, 2013 at 6:00PM Eastern with a
reception dinner hosted by Verisign at the Dulles Hyatt.  General
conference activities start the following morning with a presentation by
David Chisnall, FreeBSD Core Team member, on the migration from GCC to
LLVM/Clang within FreeBSD.  David Chisnall is a Research Associate at the
University of Cambridge, where he works on the interface between languages,
operating systems, and hardware. He is also a member of the FreeBSD Core
Team and an LLVM/Clang committer. He is the author of several books,
including the Definitive Guide to the Xen Hypervisor. He created the
current GNUstep implementation of Objective-C and has maintained it for
some years, and is now mostly responsible for the C++ stack in FreeBSD,
having implemented the ABI library and ported the STL implementation.

We are in high gear planning for vBSDcon 2013 hosted by Verisign at the
Dulles Hyatt in Herndon, VA and we are drawing closer by the week with 5
weeks left to register.  Registrations are being accepted on the conference
web site at http://www.vbsdcon.com/ through October 23, 2013 after which
registrations will only be taken in person at the event.

-- 
Take care
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syslog program data to remote loghost

2013-09-19 Thread Jeff DiNisco
I'm trying to send program specific logs to a remote host.

I get that logging to a remote server can be done with:
*.warn;*.notice;kern.* @loghost

And I get that logging a program can be done with:
!lwiod
audit.* /var/log/audit/smb.log

What I want to do is:
!lwiod
audit.*  @loghost

But for some reason this doesn't work.  Any advice would be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks.

Jeff
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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-19 Thread Vincent Schut
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:08:43 -0500
Michael Chen mich...@foxbatcapital.com wrote:

 I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc
 
 Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?
 
 Thanks!
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I recently bought one like that (48 cores but 'only' 96 Gb ram). It was
meant to play a double role as both zfs file server and data processing
server (we do lots of satellite image processing), running FreeBSD 9.1.
It connects with a SAN and we'll use it to process about 36TB of
satellite data in the next months. (In a couple of weeks we will
probably have budget to split those roles, and buy a dedicated file
server.) After several weeks of tweaking and testing, I can say that:
- the zfs/file server part runs without problems
- the satellite data processing had problems scaling to all 48 cores, I
  got max performance when running about 18 processes in parallel,
  scaling up more would lower the overall performance. However, this
  (sorry guys) appeared to be a FreeBSD problem, and not a hardware
  problem. As a test I switched to linux with ZoL (ZFS on Linux), and,
  though zfs performance is less compared to freebsd, data processing
  is much much better, like a factor 12 or so.

Conclusion: the hardware is alright, however when needed to do lots of
heavy calculations on terabytes of data, the combination with FreeBSD
appears not ideal.

Of course it is you get what you pay for. Decent, OK working hardware,
but none of the special handy-dandy features expensive brands will give
you. If you don't need them, in my experience it is decent hardware for
a good price.

regards,
Vincent.

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history

2013-09-19 Thread william benton
when I log into free bsd I am in the sh shell. i type history at the command 
line and the machine says history not found. If I type h at the command line it 
works like i expect the history command to work. In the csh or tcsh shells 
history works as well as h. why does entering history at the command line work 
in the csh and tcsh  shells  but not in the sh shell. Considering that all 
three shells seem to have the same .cshrc file? 

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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-19 Thread Dennis Glatting



On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Vincent Schut wrote:


On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:08:43 -0500
Michael Chen mich...@foxbatcapital.com wrote:


I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc

Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?

Thanks!
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I recently bought one like that (48 cores but 'only' 96 Gb ram). It was
meant to play a double role as both zfs file server and data processing
server (we do lots of satellite image processing), running FreeBSD 9.1.
It connects with a SAN and we'll use it to process about 36TB of
satellite data in the next months. (In a couple of weeks we will
probably have budget to split those roles, and buy a dedicated file
server.) After several weeks of tweaking and testing, I can say that:
- the zfs/file server part runs without problems
- the satellite data processing had problems scaling to all 48 cores, I
 got max performance when running about 18 processes in parallel,
 scaling up more would lower the overall performance. However, this
 (sorry guys) appeared to be a FreeBSD problem, and not a hardware
 problem. As a test I switched to linux with ZoL (ZFS on Linux), and,
 though zfs performance is less compared to freebsd, data processing
 is much much better, like a factor 12 or so.



I've noticed this same scaling problem on 32+ core servers but haven't had 
a chance to look into the detail. From the performance graphs I am 
confused whether my problems are processing problems or a data I/O 
problem.




Conclusion: the hardware is alright, however when needed to do lots of
heavy calculations on terabytes of data, the combination with FreeBSD
appears not ideal.

Of course it is you get what you pay for. Decent, OK working hardware,
but none of the special handy-dandy features expensive brands will give
you. If you don't need them, in my experience it is decent hardware for
a good price.

regards,
Vincent.

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how to tell which process call sendmail

2013-09-19 Thread Glenn McCalley
So, some idiot is using a cgi or php or something to send mail out of his 
website that he shouldn't be sending.  With a bunch of sites on the server, 
can't tell who.


System accounting can tell me that sendmail was executed 32,976 times, but 
is there a way to tell what process /file name called it each time?  Since 
it's always called by the www user that doesn't help -- I need to 
distinguish between legit processes that call 5 or 10 in a day and the idiot 
who calls the other 31,000 times.


Thanks!
Glenn.

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Re: how to tell which process call sendmail

2013-09-19 Thread Eugene

Hi Glenn,

I once wrote some (quick-and-dirty) perl script that monitors network 
traffic and logs (for matching outgoing connections) the process command 
line and (if apache) the respective vhost and request.


But this would not help if they are calling the sendmail program directly to 
inject the message into mail queue.
(Unverified guess: if you temporarily remove execute permissions on it, the 
execution error should probably be logged somewhere?).


BTW most probably that is not your user as such, but rather some abused 
comment form or forum script or something like that.


Best wishes
Eugene

-Original Message- 
From: Glenn McCalley

Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: how to tell which process call sendmail

So, some idiot is using a cgi or php or something to send mail out of his
website that he shouldn't be sending.  With a bunch of sites on the server,
can't tell who.

System accounting can tell me that sendmail was executed 32,976 times, but
is there a way to tell what process /file name called it each time?  Since
it's always called by the www user that doesn't help -- I need to
distinguish between legit processes that call 5 or 10 in a day and the idiot
who calls the other 31,000 times.

Thanks!
Glenn.

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Re: history

2013-09-19 Thread Glenn Sieb
On 9/19/13 3:36 PM, william benton wrote:
 when I log into free bsd I am in the sh shell. i type history at the
 command line and the machine says history not found. If I type h at
 the command line it works like i expect the history command to work.
 In the csh or tcsh shells history works as well as h. why does
 entering history at the command line work in the csh and tcsh  shells
 but not in the sh shell. Considering that all three shells seem to
 have the same .cshrc file?


Bourne shell (sh) has no history component.

Bourne Again shell (bash) does, as well as C-shell and Turbo C-shell
(csh/tcsh).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_shell#Criticism

Best,
--Glenn


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Re: how to tell which process call sendmail

2013-09-19 Thread Frank Leonhardt

On 19/09/2013 19:30, Glenn McCalley wrote:
So, some idiot is using a cgi or php or something to send mail out of 
his website that he shouldn't be sending.  With a bunch of sites on 
the server, can't tell who.




I had a similar problem, but some time back and I can't remember 
*exactly* what I did. It was something like pointing mailer.conf to my 
own program which did some logging and then called the real sendmail. 
Actually, I might just have hacked mailwrapper directly. I think there 
was some way I managed to cross-reference to the httpd logs, or that 
might be what I tried to do and failed. Sorry - this may not be helping 
much.


Another approach might be to find some likely text in the outgoing 
message and do a recursive grep on /home.



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Re: history

2013-09-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:36:43 +, william benton wrote:
 when I log into free bsd I am in the sh shell. i type history
 at the command line and the machine says history not found.
 If I type h at the command line it works like i expect the
 history command to work.

That is strange. The sh shell (system scripting shell and
emergency dialog shell in SUM) does not have a history function.

% sh
$ h
h: not found
$ history
history: not found
$ _



 In the csh or tcsh shells history works as well as h.

This is correct. A system-wide alias is defined for those shells:

alias   h   'history 25'

It can be found in /etc/csh.cshrc.



 why does entering history at the command line work in the csh and
 tcsh  shells  but not in the sh shell.

The sh shell (Bourne-like shell, actually a derivate of ash) does
not have this functionality. Bash, the Bourne-again shell, supports
the history function internally, and a h alias can be defined
for this shell.

% bash
$ history
[...]
  501  history
$ _



 Considering that all three shells seem to have the same .cshrc file?

They don't. The csh and tcsh (system default dialog shell) use the
cshrc mechanism (/etc/csh.cshrc for global settings, .cshrc for user
settings, and .login and .logout for interactive shells), while sh
uses /etc/profile and .profile and .shrc similarly. Bash uses .profile
as well as .bash_profile and .bash_login in a comparable manner.



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PKGNG

2013-09-19 Thread Ethan W. House
What is the status of pkgng. The handbook says to use it but else were it
says that the repos are empty due to a security incident last November.

Are there beta repos hidden somewhere that can be used? The reason I ask is
I want to install packages like Gimp and LibreOffice which will take a
fortnight on my laptop to compile. I tried pkg_add but that broke
everything when I updated to 9.2.

Thanks,
Ethan House
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Re: persistence in freeBSD

2013-09-18 Thread Thomas Mueller
 On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:29:26 -0400
 Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com wrote:

  mount -o rw /

 That would need to be

 mount -u -o rw /

 Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org

I think you could shorten that to

mount -uw /

Is that correct?

Tom

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Re: persistence in freeBSD

2013-09-18 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 06:30-, Thomas Mueller wrote:

  On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:29:26 -0400
  Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   mount -o rw /
 
  That would need to be
 
  mount -u -o rw /
 
  Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org
 
 I think you could shorten that to
 
 mount -uw /
 
 Is that correct?
 
 Tom

I tend to short it to: mount -u /

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Re: Old GPT/GELI disk issue

2013-09-18 Thread RW
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:22:30 -0400
Andre Goree wrote:

 Hey list,
 
 I have a disk that was at one time part of a GPT/GELI configuration
 and thus, had a passphrase attached to it.
 
 I've since reformatted that disk and am using it for another purpose, 
 but the system still appears to think the disk should be unlocked via 
 passphrase.  I always have to enter some arbitrary passphrase to get 
 past the prompt, after which the system continues to boot as normal.
 I thought all I would need to do is comment the corresponding parts
 in /boot/loader.conf, but that doesn't appear to be the case.  Anyone
 have any insight?


geli metadata is stored in the last sector of the provider which wont
get overwritten by newfs or similar.

I guess you need to run geli clear on it.
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Re: Old GPT/GELI disk issue

2013-09-18 Thread Andre Goree

On 09/18/2013 7:44 am, RW wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:22:30 -0400
Andre Goree wrote:


Hey list,

I have a disk that was at one time part of a GPT/GELI configuration
and thus, had a passphrase attached to it.

I've since reformatted that disk and am using it for another purpose,
but the system still appears to think the disk should be unlocked via
passphrase.  I always have to enter some arbitrary passphrase to get
past the prompt, after which the system continues to boot as normal.
I thought all I would need to do is comment the corresponding parts
in /boot/loader.conf, but that doesn't appear to be the case.  Anyone
have any insight?



geli metadata is stored in the last sector of the provider which wont
get overwritten by newfs or similar.

I guess you need to run geli clear on it.
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Thanks, I knew this was probably some simple command I was missing to 
erase the metadata...Googling didn't turn up much but I probably wasn't 
searching for the write thing.


I'll give this a shot, I'm sure this will resolve it.  Thanks again.

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Re: NFS file modes consistency among different operating systems

2013-09-17 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:28 AM, aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  When a file is modified by a user ,

 Whats that users umask?

 - aurf



755

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: NFS file modes consistency among different operating systems

2013-09-17 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:32 AM, aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:

  When a file is modified by a user

 Also curious whats that users group?

 - aurf




Linux
   user a: 1000 in group :1000
  group n  id : 1001 ( member : a )

FreeBSD :
   user b : 1001 in group 1001

NFS Server : group id : 1000


User a is not able to use files created or  modified by user b , and vice
versa .
Users a and b are not able to use or modify files created or modified by
Windows XP user . There is no any restriction for the Windows XP user .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: syslog-ng33 fails to build

2013-09-17 Thread C. L. Martinez
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:40 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana
cyber...@cyberleo.net wrote:
 On 09/13/2013 01:53 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote:
 Hi all,

  I am trying to build syslog-ng33 (release 3.3.9) using a poudriere
 server, but build process fails:

 snip
 configure: error: in
 `/wrkdirs/usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng33/work/syslog-ng-3.3.9':
 configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too
 old.  Make sure it
 is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full
 path to pkg-config.

 Alternatively, you may set the environment variables EVTLOG_CFLAGS
 and EVTLOG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
 See the pkg-config man page for more details.

 It is strange, because previous build (on August 27) works without problems 
 ...

 Any idea??

 Probably because syslog-ng relies upon pkgconfig, but assumes it will be
 installed by one of the dependent ports so doesn't explicitly declare
 the dependency. Poudriere has a habit of only installing the immediate
 dependencies of the package it is currently compiling, so exposes such
 issues when a port is updated, but none of its dependencies are. Bug
 ports/181098 is another I found like this.

 Add this to the port's Makefile after the include of bsd.port.options.mk:

 USES+= pkgconfig

 If that corrects the issue you're seeing, submit a pr.

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Many thanks CyberLeo ... It works. I have opened pr last week about
this (but instead against syslog-ng33, it is about syslog-ng 3.4.3,
but the problem is the same)

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=182061
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FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.

2013-09-17 Thread Atar
Hi there!!

When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the boot process. 
But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot. How can I figure out what's 
wrong with the standard boot process? I can't even log the boot messages since 
the computer stuck and not respond.

Thanks in advance!!

Atar.
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Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.

2013-09-17 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote:
 When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the
 boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot.
 How can I figure out what's wrong with the standard boot process?
 I can't even log the boot messages since the computer stuck and
 not respond.

You could try a verbose boot (equivalent: boot -v) and see _when_
the system stops resonding. It would help to post the error message
(last lines of console output) to the list to get a better impression
about what's happening.

If I remember correctly, safe mode refers to the mode with ACPI
disabled, right? In this case, it _could_ be an ACPI problem (a really
wild guess, as you have provided no information about the system you
are trying to boot FreeBSD on).



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Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:47 AM, atar atar.yo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote:

 When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the
 boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot.

 Yes, you remember correctly, safe mode disable the ACPI support
 automatically.

The problem may also be that USB devices take a long time to settle.
I suggest these in your /boot/loader.conf

hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
kern.cam.boot_delay=1
kern.cam.scsi_delay=2000

The CAM boot delay is needed for USB booting on some of my machines,
esp. Soekris boxes.  10 seconds is safe.

- M
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Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.

2013-09-17 Thread atar

Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:


On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote:

When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the
boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot.
How can I figure out what's wrong with the standard boot process?
I can't even log the boot messages since the computer stuck and
not respond.


You could try a verbose boot (equivalent: boot -v) and see _when_
the system stops resonding. It would help to post the error message
(last lines of console output) to the list to get a better impression
about what's happening.

If I remember correctly, safe mode refers to the mode with ACPI
disabled, right? In this case, it _could_ be an ACPI problem (a really
wild guess, as you have provided no information about the system you
are trying to boot FreeBSD on).


Thanks for replying!!

Yes, you remember correctly, safe mode disable the ACPI support  
automatically.


I think it's a problem in the ACPI system because when I disable ACPI, it  
boot successfully even without choosing safe mode.


But what that is strange here, is that Microsoft Windows and Linux  
(Debian) are able to boot with ACPI enabled. furthermore, some days ago  
FreeBSD itself succeeded to boot also with ACPI support enabled.


As for the error messages, there's not a particular error message. it  
simply stuck during the initialization of the PCI bus.


Here are the last eight lines:


pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pcib2: domain   0
pcib2: secondary bus2
pcib2: subordinate bus  2
pcib2: no prefetched decode
pcib2 Subtractively decoded bridge.
pcib2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib2: domain=0, physical bus=2


Regards,

atar.
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Re: NFS file modes consistency among different operating systems

2013-09-17 Thread aurfalien

On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:

 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:28 AM, aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  When a file is modified by a user ,
 
 Whats that users umask?
 
 - aurf
 
 
 755

Ok, well thats your answer.

Only that user can mod the file, every one else has rx privs.

I'd highly recommend this book;

http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596003432.do

And book mark this;

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/permissions.html

- aurf
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this 48-core box...

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Chen

I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc

Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?

Thanks!
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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-17 Thread iamatt
Hi.   Not sure if you can use all cores.   It has been and still is my
experience that SM is crap.   We have several SM gpu and SM/Calxeda  Arm
clusters and they really lack in may ways from ipmi to chassis management
to the corners they cut with the processor to memory mappings.

I would consider looking at SGI UV,  ultraviolet system for a fat node type
system but they are not cheap.   We have plenty of those and they can build
it the way you want.   Lead time is a couple of months due to build  to
order.   Support from SM sucks too. :)
On Sep 17, 2013 12:17 PM, Michael Chen mich...@foxbatcapital.com wrote:

 I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:

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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-17 Thread Dennis Glatting



On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Michael Chen wrote:


I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc

Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?




I have one of those boards running 32 cores. You MUST run FreeBSD 9+ if 
you want access to more than 32 cores.


Currently there is a bug in the stable/9 mfs drivers that do not allow you 
to boot from a RAID array. I believe a patch has been submitted. I have a 
copy of the patch and it works fine.


I have had significant problems with ZFS under stable/9 however I haven't 
tried recent updates, rather I had to punt back to stable/8 (production 
machine).


I have 22 3TB disks, 4 256GB SSDs, 256GB RAM, and 4x16 cores on my 
machine. I also have a 10GbE cardin my machine that runs fine.


I DO NOT use the CD.

Other than the issues I mentioned, runs fine.



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Re: this 48-core box...

2013-09-17 Thread Dennis Glatting


Forgot to mention:

1) My board is mounted in a SC848 Chassis and I use active cooling.

2) DO NOT run a chassis like the SC848 with the top off or the disks will 
overheat. :)




On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Michael Chen wrote:


I'm considering bidding on this 48-core box:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A-Server-1042G-TF-1U-H8QG6-4-CPUS-48-cores-2-2Ghz-128GB-RAM-/151119828428?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item232f7195cc

Does anyone have experience with it and can I use all the cores?

Thanks!
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