Re: 6.2 not compatible with new sata drives ?!

2007-08-08 Thread Steve Franks
On 8/5/07, Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I got 2 new 160GB drives last month, and my system has been
  unstable ever since.  I have swapped cables, purchased a
  brand-new sata150 controller (as opposed to the year old
  sataII), and the results are always the same.
 
  What make  model controllers?  What make  model drives?
  Some combinations of controller and drive do not play well
  together.

 I just found your other posting ad8: FAILURE - device detached.

 I assume that the new failing disks are

  ad4: 157066MB HDT722516DLA380 V43OA9BA at ata2-master SATA150
  ad8: 157066MB HDT722516DLA380 V43OA9BA at ata4-master SATA150

 and that they are Hitachi?

 I still don't know what controller you are using, but I read
 that nforce4 plus Maxtor or Hitachi disks gives data corruption:

 http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t8171.html

 I have been using nforce4-ultra with Seagate disks with no
 data corruption problems.

 It is not immediately obvious how data corruption would cause
 your device detached problem, but there could be more than
 one bug.

 If your controller works well with your Samsung drives, you
 could return the Hitachis and get more Samsungs.
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Actually, the problem started when I added the Samsungs.

Here's the facts: I'm having the most mysterious drive issue I've ever seen.

1. I have a promise sata300 controller with 4 drives.  I replaced 2
with new drives.
2. It appearred to work for a week or so.  To my knowledge, I did no
maintanence or installs that week.
3. Over the next couple weeks, things devolved until all 4 disks
device failed detatched in dmesg as soon as you hit them, you also
get plenty of set features settransfermode taskqueue timeout's in
dmesg.
4. I was sure this was a hardware problem.  Bought new cables, new
drives, new controller board (that apparently has a driver but is
flaky (si chipset?)).  Very carefully swapped pieces to isolate the
problem.  Every possible configuration failed, with new old disks,
cables, etc.
5. I decided that since I had pretty much cycled all the hardware, it
must be software, so I put in the 7.0 iso I was going to try on my
laptop.  Dropped into fixit, looked at the drives, no problems!
6. Decided to try my origonal 6.2amd64 iso again, on a whim.  Perhaps
not suprisingly, the disks looked fine on it too.
7. Did an 'upgrade' from the 6.2 iso, which reported sucess, which did
not fix the issue, so I suspect it's not a kernel or driver issue.  It
appears to me the 'upgrade' process replaces everything but /etc, no?
8. I'm a total novice, so I've only messed with inetd, rc.conf,
loader.conf, and crontab (so far as I know).  What in there that could
fubar the disks?
9. When I say the disks are 'good' from fixit on the iso, what I mean
is this: you can fsck_ffs each disk with zero errors.  zero errors
appear in dmesg.  Then (since the disks were mirrored, then the mirror
was broken while diagnosing, and some files were added), you can diff
-r the drives (which takes about 4 hours, they are 95% full 160GB's),
and everything goes as expected, again, no errors, no debug info in
dmesg, etc.

So, the obvious: what is different about my running system which I
have installed, vs. the 'fixit' shell in my same iso that I installed
from that could cause my sata hardware to appear bad on the running
system, but not on the iso?

UPDATE: At the moment, I think things are running ok (past 24 hrs)
with smartd disabled, so maybe the samsungs have some smart issue?

My newest issue is that the df command reports identically for the two
hitatchi drives, even though I've added several tens of megabytes to
one, but not the other.  Maybe it's time to donate this system to my
local charity for parts ;)

Steve
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Re: 6.2 not compatible with new sata drives ?!

2007-08-05 Thread Dieter
 I got 2 new 160GB drives last month, and my system has been
 unstable ever since.  I have swapped cables, purchased a
 brand-new sata150 controller (as opposed to the year old
 sataII), and the results are always the same.

What make  model controllers?  What make  model drives?
Some combinations of controller and drive do not play well
together.
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Re: 6.2 not compatible with new sata drives ?!

2007-08-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar

bought month ago

ad4: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAK at ata2-master SATA150

on amd64 server - no problems


On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Dieter wrote:


I got 2 new 160GB drives last month, and my system has been
unstable ever since.  I have swapped cables, purchased a
brand-new sata150 controller (as opposed to the year old
sataII), and the results are always the same.


What make  model controllers?  What make  model drives?
Some combinations of controller and drive do not play well
together.
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Re: 6.2 not compatible with new sata drives ?!

2007-08-05 Thread Dieter
 I got 2 new 160GB drives last month, and my system has been
 unstable ever since.  I have swapped cables, purchased a
 brand-new sata150 controller (as opposed to the year old
 sataII), and the results are always the same.

 What make  model controllers?  What make  model drives?
 Some combinations of controller and drive do not play well
 together.

I just found your other posting ad8: FAILURE - device detached.

I assume that the new failing disks are

 ad4: 157066MB HDT722516DLA380 V43OA9BA at ata2-master SATA150
 ad8: 157066MB HDT722516DLA380 V43OA9BA at ata4-master SATA150

and that they are Hitachi?

I still don't know what controller you are using, but I read
that nforce4 plus Maxtor or Hitachi disks gives data corruption:

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t8171.html

I have been using nforce4-ultra with Seagate disks with no
data corruption problems.

It is not immediately obvious how data corruption would cause
your device detached problem, but there could be more than
one bug.

If your controller works well with your Samsung drives, you
could return the Hitachis and get more Samsungs.
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6.2 not compatible with new sata drives ?!

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Franks
I know it strains credibility, but I can't see what else the problem
could be.  I got 2 new 160GB drives last month, and my system has been
unstable ever since.  I have swapped cables, purchased a brand-new
sata150 controller (as opposed to the year old sataII), and the
results are always the same.  I thought the drives might be DOA so I
RMA'd one of the 160's, and got a new 400GB yesterday, and it's
differenent, but similar.  Get lots of setfeatures settransfermode
taskqueue timeout errors in dmesg, can't read sectors, sometimes the
system reboots, etc.  The only fix is to remove the new drives.
Anyone else had this issue?  My 2 old sata 160GB drives from last year
are rock solid, but they get disconnected if you touch one of the
new drives.  Unplug the new drives, and no problems whatsoever with
the old ones.  I put both the sata150 and the sataII card in my
system, and put the old 160's on one, and the new 160's on the other,
and the old ones work fine, but the new ones still die (they just
don't take the old ones with them when they are on their own card).
So I'm pretty convinced it's the drives, but why?  This is like the
old Win95 days.  I haven't had a legitimate hardware issue since I
don't know when

Steve
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