Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  Da Rock wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
 
   Da Rock wrote:
   
   This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
   voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
   need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
   little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
   in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
   to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
   shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
   Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
   
  
   I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
   units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
  
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  I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
  their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
  which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
  in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
  actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
  
 
 So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...

I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they
confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of
their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it?

I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another
windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I
wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- I wouldn't corrupt my
network with M$!!!

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-09 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Da Rock wrote:

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:


Da Rock wrote:
  

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
  


Da Rock wrote:

  

This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
shrieks when I unplug the power...
  


Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)

  

I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.

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I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)


  

So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...



I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they
confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of
their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it?

I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another
windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I
wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- I wouldn't corrupt my
network with M$!!!

  
I assure you, apcupsd has this option. Here is a direct paste from my 
freebsd server:


Please select the function you want to perform.

1) Test kill UPS power
2) Perform self-test
3) Read last self-test result
4) Change battery date
5) View battery date
6) View manufacturing date
7) Set alarm behavior
8) Set sensitivity
9) Quit

Select function number: 7

Current alarm setting: DISABLED
Press...
E to Enable alarms
D to Disable alarms
Q to Quit with no changes
Your choice:

You can access this by running apctest as root. It is installed as part 
of sysutils/apcupsd. You should however stop the apcupsd monitoring 
daemon before running apctest.




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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 16:35 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote:

  On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  
  Da Rock wrote:

  On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:

  
  Da Rock wrote:
  

  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while 
  she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't 
  want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...

  
  Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
  

  I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
  units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
 
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  I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
  their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
  which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
  in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
  actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
 

  So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...
  
 
  I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they
  confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of
  their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it?
 
  I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another
  windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I
  wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- I wouldn't corrupt my
  network with M$!!!
 

 I assure you, apcupsd has this option. Here is a direct paste from my 
 freebsd server:
 
 Please select the function you want to perform.
 
 1) Test kill UPS power
 2) Perform self-test
 3) Read last self-test result
 4) Change battery date
 5) View battery date
 6) View manufacturing date
 7) Set alarm behavior
 8) Set sensitivity
 9) Quit
 
 Select function number: 7
 
 Current alarm setting: DISABLED
 Press...
  E to Enable alarms
  D to Disable alarms
  Q to Quit with no changes
 Your choice:
 
 You can access this by running apctest as root. It is installed as part 
 of sysutils/apcupsd. You should however stop the apcupsd monitoring 
 daemon before running apctest.

I figured this was the case of M$ misinformation again.

Cool- I've made the right choice then. I ordered one based on the fact
that at worst I could run either window$ in a VM, or wine, or that
window$ lookalike in a VM. But this is much better...

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A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock
This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
shrieks when I unplug the power...

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
 voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
 need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
 little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
 in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
 to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
 shrieks when I unplug the power...

Last I checked, that was called a laptop.

If for some incomprehensible reason a laptop doesn't work then the answer
is going to be specific to the brand/model of UPS you have.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 17:10 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
 Last I checked, that was called a laptop.
 
 If for some incomprehensible reason a laptop doesn't work then the answer
 is going to be specific to the brand/model of UPS you have.
 

grins I have 2 of those, and both in use... Plus, she can't use a
keyboard yet, so I don't want clutter- the unit will be hidden away, and
only screen will be seen by the child (ATM anyway). And, again, costs
are an issue...

I don't have one yet, but I was hoping someone might have a suggestion
as to which one might be capable of switching off the audio alert.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
 Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)

I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Da Rock wrote:

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
  

Da Rock wrote:


This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
shrieks when I unplug the power...
  

Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)



I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.

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I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:49:27AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

 I don't have one yet, but I was hoping someone might have a suggestion
 as to which one might be capable of switching off the audio alert.

Open up the box. Find the wires to the speaker, and cut them. ;-)

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...

  Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
  
 
  I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
  units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
 
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 I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
 their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
 which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
 in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
 actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
 

So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...

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