Re: minimum memory [was: A simple question about FreeBSD]

2003-03-16 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 07:17:51AM +1100, Sue Blake
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 This memory question comes up a lot, and I'm not sure how up to date
 that part of the documentation is. Has anyone _definitely_ run an
 install on a machine with only 8MB in the last couple of years?
 
 Twice I have failed to install (boot floppy with CD) to machines with
 only 8MB RAM. It could have been FreeBSD 4.4, but I think it was
 FreeBSD 3.3. I'd love to discover that I'm wrong here.
 
 Of course the alternative is to put the disk in another machine to do
 the install, then it should run OK back in the 8MB machine. As for X,
 forget trying it. If it was installed it would run but not usably,
 no matter how much swap. Without X and with plenty of swap you can do
 a lot with your 8MB in text mode if you can get an installation going.
 I had a 386 with 8MB running FreeBSD 2.x (without X) that ran much
 faster than the NT4 pentium beside it. The 486 CPU should be fine.

Even 4.4 didn't install using standard release floppies and 8MB of
memory. I had to build custom stripped down kernel. Otherwise 8MB
and 80Mhz 486 has plenty of power to run home DSL gateway with IP
firewall, ssh, ftpd and whatnot. Of course the bandwidth of your DSL
connection matters, if you have 8Mbit/s connection you must use
netgraph/mpd.
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Re: minimum memory [was: A simple question about FreeBSD]

2003-03-16 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:17:51 +1100, Sue Blake wrote:

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:28:14PM -0500, taxman wrote:
 On Friday 14 March 2003 08:23 pm, Wizard of Wor wrote:
  I was unable to find the minimum requirements on x86 platform. Can I
  run FreeBSD on mz 486dx2 8Mb laptop smoothly?
 
 The install documentation or the FAQ does have this answer, but yes you should 
 be able to run fine on this machine.  Just don't try to install X windows, 
 unless you set up a *lot* of swap.  It also depends a little bit on if there 
 is any noncooperative hardware on the machine.  Laptops tend to have some of 
 that.  Best bet is to try it.  4.x will probably work the best for you.


This memory question comes up a lot, and I'm not sure how up to date
that part of the documentation is. Has anyone _definitely_ run an
install on a machine with only 8MB in the last couple of years?

Twice I have failed to install (boot floppy with CD) to machines with
only 8MB RAM. It could have been FreeBSD 4.4, but I think it was
FreeBSD 3.3. I'd love to discover that I'm wrong here.

Of course the alternative is to put the disk in another machine to do
the install, then it should run OK back in the 8MB machine. As for X,
forget trying it. If it was installed it would run but not usably,
no matter how much swap. Without X and with plenty of swap you can do
a lot with your 8MB in text mode if you can get an installation going.
I had a 386 with 8MB running FreeBSD 2.x (without X) that ran much
faster than the NT4 pentium beside it. The 486 CPU should be fine.

AFAIK, you need 12meg to install, but only 8 to run.

I wouldnt run it will less than 16 or 24.  I had 28 megs in a old
486-133, and 4.3-release ran great.

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minimum memory [was: A simple question about FreeBSD]

2003-03-15 Thread Sue Blake
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:28:14PM -0500, taxman wrote:
 On Friday 14 March 2003 08:23 pm, Wizard of Wor wrote:
  I was unable to find the minimum requirements on x86 platform. Can I
  run FreeBSD on mz 486dx2 8Mb laptop smoothly?
 
 The install documentation or the FAQ does have this answer, but yes you should 
 be able to run fine on this machine.  Just don't try to install X windows, 
 unless you set up a *lot* of swap.  It also depends a little bit on if there 
 is any noncooperative hardware on the machine.  Laptops tend to have some of 
 that.  Best bet is to try it.  4.x will probably work the best for you.


This memory question comes up a lot, and I'm not sure how up to date
that part of the documentation is. Has anyone _definitely_ run an
install on a machine with only 8MB in the last couple of years?

Twice I have failed to install (boot floppy with CD) to machines with
only 8MB RAM. It could have been FreeBSD 4.4, but I think it was
FreeBSD 3.3. I'd love to discover that I'm wrong here.

Of course the alternative is to put the disk in another machine to do
the install, then it should run OK back in the 8MB machine. As for X,
forget trying it. If it was installed it would run but not usably,
no matter how much swap. Without X and with plenty of swap you can do
a lot with your 8MB in text mode if you can get an installation going.
I had a 386 with 8MB running FreeBSD 2.x (without X) that ran much
faster than the NT4 pentium beside it. The 486 CPU should be fine.


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-*Sue*-

 
 

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A simple question about FreeBSD

2003-03-14 Thread Wizard of Wor
I was unable to find the minimum requirements on x86 platform. Can I 
run FreeBSD on mz 486dx2 8Mb laptop smoothly?

Please help me by answering this simple question.

regards,
wauf

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Re: A simple question about FreeBSD

2003-03-14 Thread taxman
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:23 pm, Wizard of Wor wrote:
 I was unable to find the minimum requirements on x86 platform. Can I
 run FreeBSD on mz 486dx2 8Mb laptop smoothly?

The install documentation or the FAQ does have this answer, but yes you should 
be able to run fine on this machine.  Just don't try to install X windows, 
unless you set up a *lot* of swap.  It also depends a little bit on if there 
is any noncooperative hardware on the machine.  Laptops tend to have some of 
that.  Best bet is to try it.  4.x will probably work the best for you.

Tim



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