Re: ACPI causing trouble for X in 5.2
David Cramblett wrote: Robert Watson wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, David Cramblett wrote: I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx' (with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on XFree startup messages and hard reset is required. The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same hardware and configuration). Does anyone have similar problem ? Yes, see my post from earlier today called Can't shutdown, logout, or restart cleanly. I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT. I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why! Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned off. This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled). Once I did this, it worked like a champ. I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected by this or if it only affects certain hardware. Let me know if this worked for you. I have the same problem on two builds of 5.2, one is a Sony Vaio PCG-F360 Laptop (PII 400MHz) and the other is a newer P4 system with Asus mother board. Both worked fine with 5.1 and both broke with 5.2. I was able to work around this problem by booting up with ACPI disabled. Is there a known issue with ACPI that is being worked on for 5.2 or did someone already submit a bug report? Thanks, David I was seeing this on my Dell Latitude notebook from a couple of years ago (C600). I found that the problem went away when I switched off either ACPI or device apic, so it looks like it's basically an interrupt problem of some sort. I'm running with the r128 kernel module for DRI, and John Baldwin suggested that it might be part of the problem. I've also been experiencing continuing ATA problems, so it may well be that a combination of ACPI and apic changes has resulted in improper handling/routing/... of interrupts on the box. You might want to check and see if there are any BIOS upgrades available for your system -- as ACPI support evolves, older systems with more questionable ACPI sometimes work less well. A number of vendors have released BIOS updates to address this. Seems kinda strange that it would work fine in 5.1 and then break in 5.2, if it were hardware/bios related. Keep in mind, one of my systems is less than a year old P4 system (you seem to just be referencing my older laptop), so were not just talking about old pre-ACPI hardware/bios either. I may be wrong, but it seems something has changed for ACPI between 5.1 and 5.2, either in the FreeBSD implementation or in the specification that would require a BIOS update on my newer hardware and make the older hardware need it disabled. In November John Baldwin changed how interrupts are handled and this shook up ACPI support for a lot of people. I've created the following in an effort to help people sort through the difficulties: http://bis.midco.net/pmes/acpi.html Pete... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACPI causing trouble for X in 5.2
Trey Sizemore wrote: Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote: OS: FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 (MAC - biba,mls) Hi, I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx' (with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on XFree startup messages and hard reset is required. The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same hardware and configuration). Does anyone have similar problem ? Regards, Jarek Yes, see my post from earlier today called Can't shutdown, logout, or restart cleanly. I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT. I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why! Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned off. This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled). Once I did this, it worked like a champ. I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected by this or if it only affects certain hardware. Let me know if this worked for you. I have the same problem on two builds of 5.2, one is a Sony Vaio PCG-F360 Laptop (PII 400MHz) and the other is a newer P4 system with Asus mother board. Both worked fine with 5.1 and both broke with 5.2. I was able to work around this problem by booting up with ACPI disabled. Is there a known issue with ACPI that is being worked on for 5.2 or did someone already submit a bug report? Thanks, David ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACPI causing trouble for X in 5.2
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, David Cramblett wrote: I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx' (with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on XFree startup messages and hard reset is required. The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same hardware and configuration). Does anyone have similar problem ? Yes, see my post from earlier today called Can't shutdown, logout, or restart cleanly. I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT. I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why! Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned off. This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled). Once I did this, it worked like a champ. I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected by this or if it only affects certain hardware. Let me know if this worked for you. I have the same problem on two builds of 5.2, one is a Sony Vaio PCG-F360 Laptop (PII 400MHz) and the other is a newer P4 system with Asus mother board. Both worked fine with 5.1 and both broke with 5.2. I was able to work around this problem by booting up with ACPI disabled. Is there a known issue with ACPI that is being worked on for 5.2 or did someone already submit a bug report? Thanks, David I was seeing this on my Dell Latitude notebook from a couple of years ago (C600). I found that the problem went away when I switched off either ACPI or device apic, so it looks like it's basically an interrupt problem of some sort. I'm running with the r128 kernel module for DRI, and John Baldwin suggested that it might be part of the problem. I've also been experiencing continuing ATA problems, so it may well be that a combination of ACPI and apic changes has resulted in improper handling/routing/... of interrupts on the box. You might want to check and see if there are any BIOS upgrades available for your system -- as ACPI support evolves, older systems with more questionable ACPI sometimes work less well. A number of vendors have released BIOS updates to address this. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACPI causing trouble for X in 5.2
Robert Watson wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, David Cramblett wrote: I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx' (with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on XFree startup messages and hard reset is required. The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same hardware and configuration). Does anyone have similar problem ? Yes, see my post from earlier today called Can't shutdown, logout, or restart cleanly. I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT. I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why! Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned off. This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled). Once I did this, it worked like a champ. I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected by this or if it only affects certain hardware. Let me know if this worked for you. I have the same problem on two builds of 5.2, one is a Sony Vaio PCG-F360 Laptop (PII 400MHz) and the other is a newer P4 system with Asus mother board. Both worked fine with 5.1 and both broke with 5.2. I was able to work around this problem by booting up with ACPI disabled. Is there a known issue with ACPI that is being worked on for 5.2 or did someone already submit a bug report? Thanks, David I was seeing this on my Dell Latitude notebook from a couple of years ago (C600). I found that the problem went away when I switched off either ACPI or device apic, so it looks like it's basically an interrupt problem of some sort. I'm running with the r128 kernel module for DRI, and John Baldwin suggested that it might be part of the problem. I've also been experiencing continuing ATA problems, so it may well be that a combination of ACPI and apic changes has resulted in improper handling/routing/... of interrupts on the box. You might want to check and see if there are any BIOS upgrades available for your system -- as ACPI support evolves, older systems with more questionable ACPI sometimes work less well. A number of vendors have released BIOS updates to address this. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research Seems kinda strange that it would work fine in 5.1 and then break in 5.2, if it were hardware/bios related. Keep in mind, one of my systems is less than a year old P4 system (you seem to just be referencing my older laptop), so were not just talking about old pre-ACPI hardware/bios either. I may be wrong, but it seems something has changed for ACPI between 5.1 and 5.2, either in the FreeBSD implementation or in the specification that would require a BIOS update on my newer hardware and make the older hardware need it disabled. -- David Cramblett Multnomah Education Service District phn 503-257-1535 fax 503-257-1538 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
