Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Sounds like the usual bad hardware story..check RAM, power supply, CPU cooling, cabling, etc. kris pgpKNP0L6zNAb.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting to reinstall with 5.3, and I continue to get a kernel: priviledged instruction fault followed by a reboot...RAM is brand new Patriot 2-2-2-5...mem timings? -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:23 AM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Sounds like the usual bad hardware story..check RAM, power supply, CPU cooling, cabling, etc. kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
Its using the default bios settings and nothing is overclocked at all.. -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting to reinstall with 5.3, and I continue to get a kernel: priviledged instruction fault followed by a reboot...RAM is brand new Patriot 2-2-2-5...mem timings? -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:23 AM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Sounds like the usual bad hardware story..check RAM, power supply, CPU cooling, cabling, etc. kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this computer overclocked at all? I would highly recommend running it at the speeds it was meant to...you can avoid a lot of errors that way. -Trevor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
New error before death Panic: page fault -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting to reinstall with 5.3, and I continue to get a kernel: priviledged instruction fault followed by a reboot...RAM is brand new Patriot 2-2-2-5...mem timings? -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:23 AM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Sounds like the usual bad hardware story..check RAM, power supply, CPU cooling, cabling, etc. kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this computer overclocked at all? I would highly recommend running it at the speeds it was meant to...you can avoid a lot of errors that way. -Trevor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
Yep, Tried 5.3 mini, two different 5.3 Disc 1, 5.4RC2 Disc 1 Strangely enough, I disabled in the bios the CPU Cache and although the system is sluggish and slow, it has not freaked out yet.. -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: New error before death Panic: page fault -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting to reinstall with 5.3, and I continue to get a kernel: priviledged instruction fault followed by a reboot...RAM is brand new Patriot 2-2-2-5...mem timings? -Original Message- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:23 AM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Sounds like the usual bad hardware story..check RAM, power supply, CPU cooling, cabling, etc. kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this computer overclocked at all? I would highly recommend running it at the speeds it was meant to...you can avoid a lot of errors that way. -Trevor Is there perhaps a problem with the burned CD? Did you check the hash after downloading it, and verify the cd's contents after burning it? Sorry it's a stab in the dark, but maybe it'll give you a push in the direction of making it work =D -Trevor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
I appreciate your help! There is NO stupid question or answer...as far as I am concerned ANY help is always WELCOME help...THANKS So, yeah being from the i386 world, I am also aware of the timing quirks in the intel world. The CPU is a 754 pin...specs below..hope this sheds some light on the situation...if anyone wants me to throw up some debug info let me know!! AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor for DTR Notebooks - OEM Model# AMA3000BEX5AP Item # N82E16819103444 Specifications: Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Core: ClawHammer Operating Frequency: 1.8 GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB Voltage: 1.5V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 754 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Packaging: OEM(Processor Only) PATRIOT Extreme Performance 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 w/ XBL Technology, Model PEP5123200+XBL - Retail Model# PEP5123200+XBL Item # N82E16820220036 Specifications: Manufacturer: PDP Systems Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: Non-ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: 2-2-2-5 T1 Support Voltage: 2.8V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit Warranty: Lifetime -Original Message- From: Alex Zbyslaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting to reinstall with 5.3, and I continue to get a kernel: priviledged instruction fault followed by a reboot...RAM is brand new Patriot 2-2-2-5...mem timings? I don't know this brand of RAM, and I may be completely wrong but... When looking at 939 pin AMD CPUs, and what memory to get, I noticed that for one major quality RAM maker, the timings they recommended for Intel CPUs were faster than those they recommended for AMD CPUs and your figures look eerily familiar. It was something like 2-2-2-5 for Intel and 2-2.5-2-5 for AMD. I'm no expert on RAM, but your error does sound very hardware related. Can you check the RAM manufacturer's web site to see if they say anything? Also, some motherboards can be very picky about RAM. Is it worth trying with just one RAM chip? Does the machine POST ok with full memory tests on? (It doesn't prove anything, but if a chip is really duff it should find it). A little heretical, I realise, but is there the possibility of trying another OS (Windows, Linux) just to see if you have the same kinds of problems? I'm not copying to the list because I'm no real expert on this kind of thing; just stuff picked up from background reading. If you try any of this and it works can you post back to the list what finally worked? Best, --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
--- Edgar Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Unless someone else can vouch for that MB, it can be a suspect as well. While AMD is good, not all MB's for them are. Also ACPI can cause weird stuff like that too. Perhaps try turning that off or try other settings in the BIOS. I had that problem once. It actually did then when ACPI was turned off in the bios. Best of luck. NMH MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB Thanks! ## SNIP ## The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
Yep first thing I assumed...ACPI was disabled...both in BIOS and via MENU...no joy...UDMA disabled...in fact.. PATA DISABLED (after install via CD) USB DISABLED FDD DIABLED APM DIABLED SMART DISABLED LAN DISABLED SOUND DISABLED FIREWIRE DISABLED =) If you cant tell, I have literally installed over a hundred FBSD boxes and have encountered TONS of caveats...however this one has def got me stumped..after the install, the system seems to be holding stable with the BIOS INTERNAL/EXTERNAL cache disabled...its SLLLOOOWWW but stable... -Original Message- From: NMH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; questions Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) --- Edgar Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. Unless someone else can vouch for that MB, it can be a suspect as well. While AMD is good, not all MB's for them are. Also ACPI can cause weird stuff like that too. Perhaps try turning that off or try other settings in the BIOS. I had that problem once. It actually did then when ACPI was turned off in the bios. Best of luck. NMH MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB Thanks! ## SNIP ## The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB I was just reading the archives this week at freebsd.org and it leads me to believe msi make crap boards. They can not handle tough loads or lots of ram. I think it was in the amd64 list under a heading that mentioned 8gig of ram. There were several developers that just trashed there msi boards and all the rest of there hardware worked fine in a new board. You should look it up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:20:23PM -0400, jason henson wrote: snip MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB I was just reading the archives this week at freebsd.org and it leads me to believe msi make crap boards. They can not handle tough loads or lots of ram. I think it was in the amd64 list under a heading that mentioned 8gig of ram. There were several developers that just trashed there msi boards and all the rest of there hardware worked fine in a new board. You should look it up. There was/is an issue with 4GB RAM, but I don't recall it being only with MSI boards. And since 4GB is the limit for 32-bit addressing, I would rather suspect a 32/64-bitness issue. Personally I've used MSI motherboards in my last four desktops, running Linux or FreeBSD, and have never had issues with them. I'm using a MSI K8T NEO FSR (MS-6702) in my current amd64 box without problems. Roland -- R.F. Smith /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ /No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \Respect for open standards pgpVZaj0wBIHI.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
I think I have nailed it...somewhat... So I set it up so I could ssh to it from my office and try to mess with it...ran solid as a rock...I think got home tonight and checked my logs...nothing bad...so I THEN rebooted went into BIOS and enabled the cache...BAM...errors out every time...threw in ubuntu...craptastic...DISABLED the CACHE...everything smooth...sooo the question now is...MB or CPU?? The CPU is listed as DTR...OMFG WTF is DTR?? (acro-cursing intended..) Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ DTR Core: ClawHammer Operating Frequency: 1.8 GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB Voltage: 1.5V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 754 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Packaging: OEM(Processor Only) -Original Message- From: jason henson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the system then spends its time periodically rebooting.this is the first venture into AMD64 turf as I historically stick with i386.so any pointers.gotchas.tweaks or tips.. please let me know..I really don't want to give up, so I want to see what can be done to stabilize this. MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB I was just reading the archives this week at freebsd.org and it leads me to believe msi make crap boards. They can not handle tough loads or lots of ram. I think it was in the amd64 list under a heading that mentioned 8gig of ram. There were several developers that just trashed there msi boards and all the rest of there hardware worked fine in a new board. You should look it up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)
Edgar Martinez wrote: I think I have nailed it...somewhat... So I set it up so I could ssh to it from my office and try to mess with it...ran solid as a rock...I think got home tonight and checked my logs...nothing bad...so I THEN rebooted went into BIOS and enabled the cache...BAM...errors out every time...threw in ubuntu...craptastic...DISABLED the CACHE...everything smooth...sooo the question now is...MB or CPU?? The CPU is listed as DTR...OMFG WTF is DTR?? (acro-cursing intended..) Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ DTR Core: ClawHammer Operating Frequency: 1.8 GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB Voltage: 1.5V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 754 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Packaging: OEM(Processor Only) -Original Message- From: jason henson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez DTR stands for desktop replacement notebook. You have a cpu for a powerful notebook, but I think it would still be a low powered desktop cpu. Maybe you could try a bios update, but I would you need to rma that cpu. Sounds like it has some bad cache on it? http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=642 http://www.voodoopc.com/boards/messages.aspx?topic=32296forum=2 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07/29/amd_cuts_opteron_prices_by/ http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_10220_9486,00.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
