Re: ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-17 Thread John DeStefano
Robert Storey said:
 Sorry John, I apologize for not reading all the to the bottom of your
 post.
 
No problem; I appreciate your reply as well as any help I can get. 
Just mentioned that the information was already in the post so I
didn't have to type it out again. ;)  But please don't forget to
include the poster as a CC: when you reply, if at all possible.

 The only other thing I'd suggest is playing with xvidtune. I had to do
 this to get my screen to center properly. The frustrating thing with
 xvidtune is that it doesn't automatically save the adjustments you make
 - you have to manually edit xorg.conf - but at least it makes it
 relatively easy to find the right settings.
 
In my experience thus far, it seems you always need to tweak xorg.conf
after its creation anyway, regardless of what tool is used to create
it.  Unfortunately, I've not once yet run an X-config tool and been
able to use that config file as-is on any system.

BTW, perhaps this is a dumb question, but in skimming the xvidtune man
pages, I saw it mentioned that it's a client interface to XFree86...
is this because the man page was written pre-Xorg and hasn't been
updated, or will it work only with XFree86?

 I will say that FreeBSD really could use a better configuration utility
 for X, though I realize that the developers have their hands full just
 trying to get 5.3 out the door.
 
Amen.  IMHO, this would be a huge step toward the perception of
usability for people like me who aren't afraid to get their hands a
bit dirty yet aren't quite gurus.

 regards,
 Robert
 
 On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:48 -0400
 John DeStefano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks Robert... but I did try 'vesa' before posting (2nd  3rd paras
  from bottom of my post below).  I'm sure either 'raden' or 'ati' are
  the way to go, I just can't seem to get either one to work.  I also
  read through the entire README.ati, and found it a bit of a
  frustrating read when trying to look for answers on 'radeon' drivers
  for my card... not much relevent info there for the end-user.

Thanks,
~John
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Re: ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-17 Thread jason
John DeStefano wrote:
Trying to take my mind off my server exploit issue...
I'm trying to configure an ATI Radeon 9000 64mb AGP video card with
Xorg on a FreeBSD5.3beta2 workstation. No matter which config option I
choose ('Xorg -configure', 'xorgcfg -textmode', xorgconfig), when I
test the generated .conf file, the screen locks up with a bunch of
colors and horizontal lines (green on top, blue everywhere else). The
mouse cursor moves, but none of the Ctrl+Alt key combos work, and I
can't escape the X session or access another virtual console. The
Device section generated from 'Xorg -configure' is:
Section Device
Identifier Card0
Driver ati
VendorName ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
BusID PCI:3:0:0
Here's any related output I can think of from 'pciconf -lv':
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x01e010de rev=0xa2 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
device = 'nForce2 AGP Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
.
.
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x20021002 chip=0x49661002 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro'
class = display
subclass = VGA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x20031002 chip=0x496e1002 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro - Secondary'
class = display

I thought it might be an AGP/kernel issue, but when I try 'kldload
agp' I get back File exists, and when I do 'kldstat -n agp' or
'kldunload' I get No such file.
I tried someone else's bare-bones radeon conf file, and I got the
same problem as always on test: blue/green garbled screen, mouse
moves, can't escape out of locked-up X. I then replaced the radeon
Driver entry with vesa in the config. When I tested this, it showed
a different garbled screen (grey this time) for a few seconds, then
clicked to a normal X-Windows screen, but with a black hourglass
outline on the sides. I was able to Ctl+Alt+Backspace out of this as
normal, and the console didn't report any warnings or errors.
I then moved this config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ran 'startx'.
It started fine and looked as described above, with an hourglass
outline. When I exited X, there were some errors on the console that
were probably just from exiting out of X, and this one:
xauth: (argv):1: bad display name my.hostname.com:0 in remove command
Any ideas on how to get this card working properly?  BTW: I began
using FreeBSD5.3beta2 on this machine for its NDIS support for my
onboard NIC.
Thanks,
~John
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I know your pain so well!  I have a r200 on a nforce2 board.  I have the 
same problems as you.

1.It looks as if your pci id is wrong.  I might be wrong, but I see  
3:0:1 and 3:0:0.  You should not use the BusID option if you can avoid 
it.  There is a free pci scan with every startx!  The point of the scan 
is not having to set the id.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:  class=0x03 card=0x7149174b chip=0x514c1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
   vendor   = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
   device   = 'R200 Radeon 8500 / 8500LE'
   class= display
   subclass = VGA

You see here on mine I am getting a driver attached to my card.  The 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1 means there is no driver attacked, or at least drm is 
not working. 

2.You must preload agp.  The handbook clearly states you have to have 
agp in the kernel or preloaded.  You should not kldload or kldunload agp.

hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
agp.ko_load=YES
snd_ich.ko_load=YES
radeon.ko_load=YES
This is just a sample of my /boot/loader.conf file.  You see I have the 
radeon and agp drivers preloaded.

3.The current version of dri in the kernel is outdated and does not have 
accellerated drivers that work.  I think they will be updated after the 
release of 5.3 when the new xorg sever is put into ports.  You can use 
dri without x, but no one does.  Dri is its own project and a part of x, 
but in FreeBSD dri is part of the base system since it has drivers(I 
think this is why).  So this means no loading dri modules in the 
xorg.conf file, and no hardware accellerated 3d for you until the 
update.  Before you mention it, I do know you have the RV280 and not the 
R200 like me.  The RV280 is a modifed R200 and does use the same driver.

I also noticed you have 2 radeons in the pciscan.  I have a tripple head 
8500(svideo, vga, dvi) and I only have 1 radeon show up.  Do you have 2 
cards(it looks like 1 card, could this be a dual head side effect? could 
I get a dmesg on this)?  What settings have you changed to get this to 
happen or is it deafult?

Finally, if you do all I said you should have a working x and system.  
Right now I can get 25-30 fps in glxgears fullscreen.  When the new 
drivers are here that number should be more like 2500-3000(or was there 
another zero?).  If you need any 

ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-16 Thread John DeStefano
Trying to take my mind off my server exploit issue...

I'm trying to configure an ATI Radeon 9000 64mb AGP video card with
Xorg on a FreeBSD5.3beta2 workstation. No matter which config option I
choose ('Xorg -configure', 'xorgcfg -textmode', xorgconfig), when I
test the generated .conf file, the screen locks up with a bunch of
colors and horizontal lines (green on top, blue everywhere else). The
mouse cursor moves, but none of the Ctrl+Alt key combos work, and I
can't escape the X session or access another virtual console. The
Device section generated from 'Xorg -configure' is:
Section Device
Identifier Card0
Driver ati
VendorName ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
BusID PCI:3:0:0

Here's any related output I can think of from 'pciconf -lv':
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x01e010de rev=0xa2 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
device = 'nForce2 AGP Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
.
.
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x20021002 chip=0x49661002 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro'
class = display
subclass = VGA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x20031002 chip=0x496e1002 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro - Secondary'
class = display

I thought it might be an AGP/kernel issue, but when I try 'kldload
agp' I get back File exists, and when I do 'kldstat -n agp' or
'kldunload' I get No such file.

I tried someone else's bare-bones radeon conf file, and I got the
same problem as always on test: blue/green garbled screen, mouse
moves, can't escape out of locked-up X. I then replaced the radeon
Driver entry with vesa in the config. When I tested this, it showed
a different garbled screen (grey this time) for a few seconds, then
clicked to a normal X-Windows screen, but with a black hourglass
outline on the sides. I was able to Ctl+Alt+Backspace out of this as
normal, and the console didn't report any warnings or errors.

I then moved this config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ran 'startx'.
It started fine and looked as described above, with an hourglass
outline. When I exited X, there were some errors on the console that
were probably just from exiting out of X, and this one:
xauth: (argv):1: bad display name my.hostname.com:0 in remove command

Any ideas on how to get this card working properly?  BTW: I began
using FreeBSD5.3beta2 on this machine for its NDIS support for my
onboard NIC.

Thanks,
~John
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Re: ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-16 Thread Robert Storey
One thing you could try is editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and substituting
vesa for ati. It's not an ideal solution, but the vesa driver often
works when nothing else will. You might want to take a look at
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.ati, and list all video drivers in
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/.

regards,
Robert

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:10:44 -0400
John DeStefano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Trying to take my mind off my server exploit issue...
 
 I'm trying to configure an ATI Radeon 9000 64mb AGP video card with
 Xorg on a FreeBSD5.3beta2 workstation. No matter which config option I
 choose ('Xorg -configure', 'xorgcfg -textmode', xorgconfig), when I
 test the generated .conf file, the screen locks up with a bunch of
 colors and horizontal lines (green on top, blue everywhere else). The
 mouse cursor moves, but none of the Ctrl+Alt key combos work, and I
 can't escape the X session or access another virtual console. The
 Device section generated from 'Xorg -configure' is:
 Section Device
 Identifier Card0
 Driver ati
 VendorName ATI Technologies Inc
 BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
 BusID PCI:3:0:0
 
 Here's any related output I can think of from 'pciconf -lv':
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x01e010de rev=0xa2
 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
 device = 'nForce2 AGP Controller'
 class = bridge
 subclass = HOST-PCI
 .
 .
 .
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x20021002 chip=0x49661002
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
 device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro'
 class = display
 subclass = VGA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x20031002 chip=0x496e1002 
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
 device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro - Secondary'
 class = display
 
 I thought it might be an AGP/kernel issue, but when I try 'kldload
 agp' I get back File exists, and when I do 'kldstat -n agp' or
 'kldunload' I get No such file.
 
 I tried someone else's bare-bones radeon conf file, and I got the
 same problem as always on test: blue/green garbled screen, mouse
 moves, can't escape out of locked-up X. I then replaced the radeon
 Driver entry with vesa in the config. When I tested this, it showed
 a different garbled screen (grey this time) for a few seconds, then
 clicked to a normal X-Windows screen, but with a black hourglass
 outline on the sides. I was able to Ctl+Alt+Backspace out of this as
 normal, and the console didn't report any warnings or errors.
 
 I then moved this config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ran 'startx'.
 It started fine and looked as described above, with an hourglass
 outline. When I exited X, there were some errors on the console that
 were probably just from exiting out of X, and this one:
 xauth: (argv):1: bad display name my.hostname.com:0 in remove
 command
 
 Any ideas on how to get this card working properly?  BTW: I began
 using FreeBSD5.3beta2 on this machine for its NDIS support for my
 onboard NIC.
 
 Thanks,
 ~John
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Re: ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-16 Thread John DeStefano
Robert Storey wrote:
 One thing you could try is editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and substituting
 vesa for ati. It's not an ideal solution, but the vesa driver often
 works when nothing else will. You might want to take a look at
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.ati, and list all video drivers in
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/.
 
 regards,
 Robert
 
Thanks Robert... but I did try 'vesa' before posting (2nd  3rd paras
from bottom of my post below).  I'm sure either 'raden' or 'ati' are
the way to go, I just can't seem to get either one to work.  I also
read through the entire README.ati, and found it a bit of a
frustrating read when trying to look for answers on 'radeon' drivers
for my card... not much relevent info there for the end-user.

 On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:10:44 -0400
 John DeStefano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Trying to take my mind off my server exploit issue...
 
  I'm trying to configure an ATI Radeon 9000 64mb AGP video card with
  Xorg on a FreeBSD5.3beta2 workstation. No matter which config option I
  choose ('Xorg -configure', 'xorgcfg -textmode', xorgconfig), when I
  test the generated .conf file, the screen locks up with a bunch of
  colors and horizontal lines (green on top, blue everywhere else). The
  mouse cursor moves, but none of the Ctrl+Alt key combos work, and I
  can't escape the X session or access another virtual console. The
  Device section generated from 'Xorg -configure' is:
  Section Device
  Identifier Card0
  Driver ati
  VendorName ATI Technologies Inc
  BoardName Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
  BusID PCI:3:0:0
 
  Here's any related output I can think of from 'pciconf -lv':
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x01e010de rev=0xa2
 
  hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
  device = 'nForce2 AGP Controller'
  class = bridge
  subclass = HOST-PCI
  .
  .
  .
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x20021002 chip=0x49661002
  rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
  device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro'
  class = display
  subclass = VGA
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x20031002 chip=0x496e1002
  rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc.'
  device = 'RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 Pro - Secondary'
  class = display
 
  I thought it might be an AGP/kernel issue, but when I try 'kldload
  agp' I get back File exists, and when I do 'kldstat -n agp' or
  'kldunload' I get No such file.
 
  I tried someone else's bare-bones radeon conf file, and I got the
  same problem as always on test: blue/green garbled screen, mouse
  moves, can't escape out of locked-up X. I then replaced the radeon
  Driver entry with vesa in the config. When I tested this, it showed
  a different garbled screen (grey this time) for a few seconds, then
  clicked to a normal X-Windows screen, but with a black hourglass
  outline on the sides. I was able to Ctl+Alt+Backspace out of this as
  normal, and the console didn't report any warnings or errors.
 
  I then moved this config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ran 'startx'.
  It started fine and looked as described above, with an hourglass
  outline. When I exited X, there were some errors on the console that
  were probably just from exiting out of X, and this one:
  xauth: (argv):1: bad display name my.hostname.com:0 in remove
  command
 
  Any ideas on how to get this card working properly?  BTW: I began
  using FreeBSD5.3beta2 on this machine for its NDIS support for my
  onboard NIC.
 
  Thanks,
  ~John

Please carbon copy the OP when replying to the list.

Thanks,
~John
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Re: ATI AGP card and Xorg

2004-09-16 Thread Robert Storey
Sorry John, I apologize for not reading all the to the bottom of your
post.

The only other thing I'd suggest is playing with xvidtune. I had to do
this to get my screen to center properly. The frustrating thing with
xvidtune is that it doesn't automatically save the adjustments you make
- you have to manually edit xorg.conf - but at least it makes it
relatively easy to find the right settings.

I will say that FreeBSD really could use a better configuration utility
for X, though I realize that the developers have their hands full just
trying to get 5.3 out the door.

regards,
Robert

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:48 -0400
John DeStefano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Robert... but I did try 'vesa' before posting (2nd  3rd paras
 from bottom of my post below).  I'm sure either 'raden' or 'ati' are
 the way to go, I just can't seem to get either one to work.  I also
 read through the entire README.ati, and found it a bit of a
 frustrating read when trying to look for answers on 'radeon' drivers
 for my card... not much relevent info there for the end-user.
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