Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug A short update ;-) I have uninstalled Xorg an installed XF86 from the FreeBSD ports (was quite tricky because the XF86 ports are not on the official freebsd server's) But, All in all the same situation at the first start with XF86, 1024x480, 8 bit colour. Then I configured XF86 with the GUI version of xf86cfg (easier to choose the drivers as in the CLI version ;-) After this I shutdown and restart X and the I had 800x600 with 16 Bit. So this is enough for me, I am quite happy with my FreeBSD 5.3 WindowMaker locks a little bit strange but is is fast and stable. If I find the time, I will try to tune XF86 to 1024x480. If I have News about it, I drop ya a Mail. and btw : If you have slow computers, try windowmaker. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/pkg-descr Fast, needs not a lot of resources and easy to customize. I love it ;-) Thanx a lot, HAVE FUN and with my best regardz Ronny < /EndOfTransmission > Am 12.01.2005 um 00:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As to good ideas Ronnie, I do not think so, but here are some things you may not have tried: Since you found me you probably have already gone the Google route but if you have not try your exact configuration. Try the FreeBSD mobile and hardware lists. Freshports may help with Xorg as well as XFree86 XFree86 has the advantage of better documentation about bugs, at least currently. Try their resource page. The development snapshots list pretty specifically what was fixed in each snapshot. You can download binaries for FreeBSD and these are pretty quick to install (10-15 mins after the first one). The XFree86 newbie list is pretty helpful; subscribe and post your question there. If any of the above works, I would then drop back to 4.11 unless you do not mind using ports (rather than packages). My Unix workstations and laptops are far too slow to consider building X or KDE. BTW if the above is wrong I would sure like to be clued in. Aside from the fact that the packages are built with Xorg, some of the low level dependencies have mutually exclusive version dependencies. Portupgrade may allow the use of packages by rewriting the dependencies. I would think Xorg and XFree are still compatible at the BPI level. Because of processor speed I can start from scratch and build my laptop 4-5 times before Qt would finish building. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote: > Hi there > > I have updatet to > xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD > Ports.. > > ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony > c1ve. > the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it > with 1024x480 on this machine... > > any other ideas ? > could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? > > thanx a lot, > HAVE FUN and > with my best regardz > ronny > > > > Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that > the > problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. > > The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font > rendering. > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > >> Doug, Ronny... >> >> I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, >> 2004 >> using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a >> default >> depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati >> driver. >> >> Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my >> experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the >> most >> recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on >> December >> 28th. >> >> Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in >> September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what >> is >> above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source >> for >> xorg and the chip in question. >> >> HTH, best regards, >> >> Joe >> > > _ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 301-469-8766 >Fax: 301-469-0601 > > Beschtae Dank, > HAFE FUN und > mit aemae Gruaess > Ronny > --- > http://the.fischerman.ch > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > < /EndOfTransmission > > > > ### > # > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and > cleared > by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution > ### > # > Output from pgp > Signature by unknown keyid: 0x5E41EEFB > > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQe6x3cAf475eQe77EQ
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
As to good ideas Ronnie, I do not think so, but here are some things you may not have tried: Since you found me you probably have already gone the Google route but if you have not try your exact configuration. Try the FreeBSD mobile and hardware lists. Freshports may help with Xorg as well as XFree86 XFree86 has the advantage of better documentation about bugs, at least currently. Try their resource page. The development snapshots list pretty specifically what was fixed in each snapshot. You can download binaries for FreeBSD and these are pretty quick to install (10-15 mins after the first one). The XFree86 newbie list is pretty helpful; subscribe and post your question there. If any of the above works, I would then drop back to 4.11 unless you do not mind using ports (rather than packages). My Unix workstations and laptops are far too slow to consider building X or KDE. BTW if the above is wrong I would sure like to be clued in. Aside from the fact that the packages are built with Xorg, some of the low level dependencies have mutually exclusive version dependencies. Portupgrade may allow the use of packages by rewriting the dependencies. I would think Xorg and XFree are still compatible at the BPI level. Because of processor speed I can start from scratch and build my laptop 4-5 times before Qt would finish building. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote: > Hi there > > I have updatet to > xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD > Ports.. > > ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony > c1ve. > the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it > with 1024x480 on this machine... > > any other ideas ? > could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? > > thanx a lot, > HAVE FUN and > with my best regardz > ronny > > > > Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the > problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. > > The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font > rendering. > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > > > Doug, Ronny... > > > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, 2004 > > using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a default > > depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati driver. > > > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the most > > recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on December > > 28th. > > > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what is > > above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source for > > xorg and the chip in question. > > > > HTH, best regards, > > > > Joe > > > > _ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 301-469-8766 >Fax: 301-469-0601 > > Beschtae Dank, > HAFE FUN und > mit aemae Gruaess > Ronny > --- > http://the.fischerman.ch > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > < /EndOfTransmission > > > > > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared > by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution > > Output from pgp > Signature by unknown keyid: 0x5E41EEFB > > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there I have updatet to xorg-server-6.8.1_1 X.Org X server and related programs via FreeBSD Ports.. ..but it is still not possible to get more the 8 bit color on the sony c1ve. the vesa driver is fine in 640x480 but it is not possible to have it with 1024x480 on this machine... any other ideas ? could it work with xfree86 instead of xorg ? thanx a lot, HAVE FUN and with my best regardz ronny Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font rendering. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > Doug, Ronny... > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, > 2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have > a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using > the ati driver. > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the > most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on > December 28th. > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what > is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest > source for xorg and the chip in question. > > HTH, best regards, > > Joe > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 Beschtae Dank, HAFE FUN und mit aemae Gruaess Ronny - --- http://the.fischerman.ch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- < /EndOfTransmission > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQeGLHMAf475eQe77EQLuEwCeN8ctUcGauhDrvwhSBBvPaEj5dDoAn0M3 U3WzgtvNIWAcIVVchYfeWC5z =CJzL -END PGP SIGNATURE- This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug, hi Joe Thanx a lot for your answer's ;.-) The problem on my Laptop is that strange resolution of 1024x480 which is not proper working with the vesa driver. I will also try to upgarde my Xorg and report to you if it is working or not. Thanx again, have a nice weekend, HAVE FUN and with my best regards Ronny Am 08.01.2005 um 18:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font rendering. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > Doug, Ronny... > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, > 2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have > a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using > the ati driver. > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the > most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on > December 28th. > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what > is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest > source for xorg and the chip in question. > > HTH, best regards, > > Joe > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQeArk8Af475eQe77EQI9OwCg0NTvIgno9uS14wIt68+h6j8923MAoMfT EWWT7AQqSdCr8M/x78NkozOR =sLMj -END PGP SIGNATURE- This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
Thanks Joe I will try to upgrade. My experience was the same, in that the problem tracked X (both projects) across several levels of 4.x and 5.x. The vesa drive works okay, but I miss the larger screen and better font rendering. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Joe Altman wrote: > Doug, Ronny... > > I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, > 2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have > a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using > the ati driver. > > Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my > experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the > most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on > December 28th. > > Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in > September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what > is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest > source for xorg and the chip in question. > > HTH, best regards, > > Joe > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
Doug, Ronny... I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28, 2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using the ati driver. Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on December 28th. Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest source for xorg and the chip in question. HTH, best regards, Joe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3
No magic and little more than the first sentence said: FYI - there is a work around for this. The vesa driver works okay. I just ran xorgconfig and added Mode and DefaultDepth statements. The driver seems kind of funky in that the screen is scrambled for a second or so and then seems to work okay. My memory was that I just ran 'Xorg -configure' and changed the driver and added the screen section. I included the file because a 'diff -u' with a left over xorg.conf does not seem to bear that out. Still, that's all I did. I am running xorg 6.7 using the vesa driver. At some point I intend to try 6.8 of xorg. It appears the ati driver has been updated but information is a bit difficult (at least for me) to come by from the Xorg site. On my hardware, the vesa driver works pretty well, the only problems being the default X fonts are not rendered as well, I can not use 1400x1050 resolution, and the screen memory does not seem be handled as well as with the ati driver. This later is not really a problem (for me) as it results in the screen from a previous session appearing when xorg start after a reboot and some funky patterns starting xdm. Hope this helps. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Ronny Fischer wrote: > Hi Doug > > I saw your answer at > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065330.html > > and would like to ask, where can I found this workaround ? > > I have a Sony PCG-C1VE with an ATi 3D Rage Mobility and a screen resolution > of 1024x480 > (specs here : > http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/notebooks/0,39023984,1247,00.htm) > > Xorg is working with 8 bit colour. If I switch to 16 or 24 I see only a grey > monitor. > I have also tryed the vesa driver. This is only working with 640x480 > > Please, please, please, do you have any hint for me where I can found a > solution ? > I search the web since three day´s and have not found any solution that is > working. > > Thanx a lot in avance, > HAVE FUN and > with my best regards > Ronny > http://the.fischerman.ch > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared > by NetIQ MailMarshal, the e-mail content security solution > > _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601# File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 2004, by the X.Org # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of X.Org shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # X.Org. # # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** # ** # Module section -- this section is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. # ** # Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load"dbe" # Double buffer extension # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection "extmod" Option"omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"speedo" Load"freetype" #Load"xtt" # This loads the GLX module #Load "glx" # This loads the DRI module #Load "dri" EndSection # ** # Files section. This
