Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Paul Mather
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:26:54 -0500 (EST), "Ean Kingston"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote:
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> >>
> >> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these
> >>
> >> curious markings:
> >> > security note:
> >> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
> >> > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even
> >> > better, try a knocking daemon.
> >>
> >> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The
> >> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Christopher Nehren
> >
> > To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a
> > SSH application on the Windows computer.  PuTTY is a free example, and
> > is available at:
> >
> > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
> 
> AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his WinXP
> Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I think there is
> an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for Win32 that runs on
> XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but the original poster may
> not want that much added to the XP system).
> 
> http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/

I have successfully used the Win32 OpenSSH installer available via
http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ to provide a SSH server on a remote
Windows 2000 Professional system.  That OpenSSH package can be installed
via an installer to provide OpenSSH using a minimal requisite cygwin
environment.  The OpenSSH server can be run as a Windows service.

Like the original poster, I wanted a way of using a Windows system
remotely from FreeBSD.  In my case, it was so I could remotely admin and
troubleshoot a friend's Windows 2000 PC.  As well as using the OpenSSH
for Windows mentioned above, I used TightVNC (http://www.tightvnc.com/)
for the VNC server on Windows and for the client on FreeBSD (installed
via the net/tightvnc port).  I restrict the VNC server to accept
connections only from localhost, and use an SSH tunnel to encrypt all
the VNC traffic between the two systems.  (I can even start and stop the
VNC server service remotely by issuing a "net start winvnc" and "net
stop winvnc" via SSH to start and stop it, respectively.)

I've found the setup to work well in practice.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
Since you mention mail etiquette,

1.  If you have an issue with mail format, reply privately.  Yes, I'm
violating this rule here, but only as a followup.

2.  Please don't "bottom post".  It's just as irritating as "top
posting".  Please trim messages to the minimum length that
maintains the context.  If you're referring to the message as a
whole rather than its content, it's appropriate to put the
comments at the top.

3. Please also don't mangle messages.  Your quoting algorithm makes
   spurious short lines with incorrect quotation levels:

   >>> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find
   >> it's
   >>> faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you need is X
   >> running
   >>> and:

You can read more about these and other topics at
http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html.  They will also explain
why you have made a poor choice of MUA.

Greg

On Tuesday, 22 March 2005 at 21:47:37 +0530, Subhro wrote:
> 
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Pavlica
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:39
>> To: daniel
>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely
>> 
>> VNC works very well for me, good suggestion!
>> 
>> --Nick
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>>>> I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
>>>> home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
>>>> I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
>>>> enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like
>> krdesktop,
>>>> from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
>>>> access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
>>> 
>>> i'd suggest vnc:
>>>   http://www.realvnc.com/
>>>   http://www.tightvnc.com/
>>> 
>>> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find
>> it's
>>> faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you need is X
>> running
>>> and:
>>> 
>>>   $ vncviewer 
>>> 
>>> security note:
>>> vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
>> ports you
>>> open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even better, try a
>> knocking
>>> daemon.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
>>> corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial
>> of
>>> strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
>>>   - thomas Jefferson, 1816
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> Please do not Top Post. Its kinda irritating. :-(
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 03:26 pm, Ean Kingston wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote:
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these
> >>
> >> curious markings:
> >> > security note:
> >> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. 
> >> > any ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. 
> >> > even better, try a knocking daemon.
> >>
> >> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The
> >> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Christopher Nehren
> >
> > To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install
> > a SSH application on the Windows computer.  PuTTY is a free
> > example, and is available at:
> >
> > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
>
> AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his
> WinXP Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I
> think there is an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for
> Win32 that runs on XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but
> the original poster may not want that much added to the XP system).
>
> http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/

You're right -- good catch.

Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Ean Kingston

> On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these
>>
>> curious markings:
>> > security note:
>> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
>> > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even
>> > better, try a knocking daemon.
>>
>> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The
>> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Christopher Nehren
>
> To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a
> SSH application on the Windows computer.  PuTTY is a free example, and
> is available at:
>
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his WinXP
Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I think there is
an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for Win32 that runs on
XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but the original poster may
not want that much added to the XP system).

http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/

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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these
>
> curious markings:
> > security note:
> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
> > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even
> > better, try a knocking daemon.
>
> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The
> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples.
>
> Best Regards,
> Christopher Nehren

To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a 
SSH application on the Windows computer.  PuTTY is a free example, and 
is available at:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

Andrew Gould
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Nehren
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On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these
curious markings:
> security note:
> vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any ports you 
> open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even better, try a knocking 
> daemon.

This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The
Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples.

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Ean Kingston

>> XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running
>> the former.
>>
>>
>> -Wash
>>
> oops.  missed the "home" part in the original post.  sorry.  Go with
> VNC.  I'm not sure how it works cross-platform, but ultravnc has a
> file transfer option where it can send files over the vnc ports.

Works like a charm. I use RealVNC all the time. Both ways. I've even used
it through SSH port forwarding.

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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Gary Smithe
> XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running
> the former.
> 
> 
> -Wash
> 
oops.  missed the "home" part in the original post.  sorry.  Go with
VNC.  I'm not sure how it works cross-platform, but ultravnc has a
file transfer option where it can send files over the vnc ports.

GS
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* Gary Smithe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20050322 19:08]: wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300, Odhiambo Washington
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello dudes,
> > 
> > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
> > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
> > 
> > I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!!
> > 
> > All pointers will be appreciated.
> > 
> > -Wash
> > 
> 
> I assume you have allowed (on the XP box) remote desktop connections
> (system properties) and the XP firewall is turned off.

XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running
the former.


-Wash

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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 10:02 am, daniel wrote:
> On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer
> > from home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that
> > will enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like
> > krdesktop, from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and
> > provide me access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
>
> i'd suggest vnc:
>   http://www.realvnc.com/
>   http://www.tightvnc.com/
>
> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i
> find it's faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you
> need is X running and:
>
>   $ vncviewer 
>
> security note:
> vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
> ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even
> better, try a knocking daemon.

One of the advantages of running the tightvnc server is that it also 
runs a java web server so that you can access the tightvnc server from 
an internet browser without the use of a tightvnc client.  The port 
number equals 5800 plus the windown number.  For example, to access 
window 1 at 192.168.0.2, to go:

http://192.168.0.2:5801

Caveat:  I've only tested this from Win2K to FreeBSD, not the other way 
around.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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RE: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Subhro


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Pavlica
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:39
> To: daniel
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely
> 
> VNC works very well for me, good suggestion!
> 
> --Nick
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> > > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> > > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> > > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like
> krdesktop,
> > > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> > > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
> >
> > i'd suggest vnc:
> >   http://www.realvnc.com/
> >   http://www.tightvnc.com/
> >
> > you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find
> it's
> > faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you need is X
> running
> > and:
> >
> >   $ vncviewer 
> >
> > security note:
> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any
> ports you
> > open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even better, try a
> knocking
> > daemon.
> >
> > --
> > i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
> > corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial
> of
> > strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
> >   - thomas Jefferson, 1816
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RE: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Subhro


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:25
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely
> 
> Hello dudes,
> 
> I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
> from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
> 
> I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!!
> 
> All pointers will be appreciated.

What you need is called a VNC. Have a look at TightVNC. It's a wonderful
application.

http://www.tightvnc.org

There is also a FreeBSD port. Have a look at the ports collection.

Regards
S.

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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Nick Pavlica
VNC works very well for me, good suggestion!

--Nick


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
> > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
> 
> i'd suggest vnc:
>   http://www.realvnc.com/
>   http://www.tightvnc.com/
> 
> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find it's
> faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you need is X running
> and:
> 
>   $ vncviewer 
> 
> security note:
> vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any ports you
> open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even better, try a knocking
> daemon.
> 
> --
> i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
> corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of
> strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
>   - thomas Jefferson, 1816
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Gary Smithe
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300, Odhiambo Washington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello dudes,
> 
> I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
> from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.
> 
> I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!!
> 
> All pointers will be appreciated.
> 
> -Wash
> 

I assume you have allowed (on the XP box) remote desktop connections
(system properties) and the XP firewall is turned off.

I've used rdesktop with win2000 systems just fine, so I'm guessing
it's a setting on the XP box.

If you can't get that to work, you can always try VNC.

GS
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Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread daniel
On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
> home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
> I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
> enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
> from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
> access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.

i'd suggest vnc:
  http://www.realvnc.com/
  http://www.tightvnc.com/

you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find it's 
faster than the normal vnc client.  then to connect all you need is X running 
and:

  $ vncviewer 

security note:
vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure.  any ports you 
open/forward should be directed to your ip only.  even better, try a knocking 
daemon.

-- 
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corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of 
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Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely

2005-03-22 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello dudes,

I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from
home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional.
I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will
enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop,
from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me
access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE.

I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!!

All pointers will be appreciated.


-Wash

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