Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-10 Thread chip . wiegand
Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/07/2003 06:17:57 AM:

 On Nov 6, 2003, at 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tried that, it just sits on
 
  simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
  Trying 216.136.129.5...
 
  and never connects.
 
 OK, so you can be reasonably sure your ISP is blocking port 25.  You 
 will probably need to configure your mail server to relay via your ISPs 
 SMTP server instead-- change the SMART_HOST definition in 
 /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and do a make restart in /etc/mail, and see 
 whether that helps...
 
 -- 
 -Chuck

Thanks Chuck, and the others with the same suggestion. I've set that 
parameter in the freebsd.mc file and still have the same problem. I ssh'd 
into my current web server box, running RedHat, and sent a message from 
the cli mail and watched the messages, and did the same on the FreeBSD box 
(which will replace the Linux box soon as mail works). Look at the two 
sections below, notice the lines 250 in each section - they are the 
reverse of each other. The message sent from the Linux box went through to 
its destination, but not the message from the FreeBSD box. The Linux box 
had no configuring done to make it send mail out. I have set up previous 
versions of FreeBSD, all the way back to 3.0, and have never had to do any 
configuring to get any to send mail out. It has always just worked, 
including a previous setup here in this office connected to the same 
network. So I'm wondering what has changed in 5.1 to cause this problem, 
if anything. Or is it just a bad install?

On the Linux box -

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mail -v -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
just a test from linux.
.
Cc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 
09:23:56 -0800
 EHLO localhost.localdomain
250-localhost.localdomain Hello simradusa [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

Now for the FreeBSD box -

simradusa# mail -v -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
just a test from a new 5.1 box.
.
EOT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
220 simradusa.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:02:32 
-0800 (PST)
 EHLO simradusa.com
250-simradusa.com Hello localhost.simrad.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet 
you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-10 Thread Charles Swiger
On Nov 10, 2003, at 3:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Chuck, and the others with the same suggestion. I've set that
parameter in the freebsd.mc file and still have the same problem. I 
ssh'd
into my current web server box, running RedHat, and sent a message from
the cli mail and watched the messages, and did the same on the FreeBSD 
box
(which will replace the Linux box soon as mail works). Look at the two
sections below, notice the lines 250 in each section - they are the
reverse of each other. The message sent from the Linux box went 
through to
its destination, but not the message from the FreeBSD box.
Your examples are showing the handoff between untrusted local mail 
client using SMTP to localhost:25 to deliver the mail to the local 
spool, and not the communication from your machine to the next SMTP 
server.

[ Prior versions of sendmail were setuid-root, and mail -v output was 
more useful; 8.12 is not installed setuid-root anymore... ]

The Linux box had no configuring done to make it send mail out. I have 
set up previous versions of FreeBSD, all the way back to 3.0, and have 
never had to do any configuring to get any to send mail out. It has 
always just worked,
including a previous setup here in this office connected to the same
network. So I'm wondering what has changed in 5.1 to cause this 
problem,
if anything. Or is it just a bad install?
It's unlikely to be a bad install.  Try running:

   echo 3,0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sendmail -bt

...on the Linux machine, and see whether the last line relays through 
your ISP's smarthost, or directly to smtp-mx.mac.com.  Compare that to 
what the FreeBSD machine is doing.

--
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-07 Thread Charles Swiger
On Nov 6, 2003, at 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2003 03:23:43 PM:
The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
would be to:
telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
upstream or the receivers).
Tried that, it just sits on

simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
Trying 216.136.129.5...
and never connects.
OK, so you can be reasonably sure your ISP is blocking port 25.  You 
will probably need to configure your mail server to relay via your ISPs 
SMTP server instead-- change the SMART_HOST definition in 
/etc/mail/freebsd.mc and do a make restart in /etc/mail, and see 
whether that helps...

--
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Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread chip . wiegand
I've got to get this working. The suggestion that DNS is not working right 
can't be correct, I can browse the web and do traceroutes to named sites 
without a problem. The emails sent from the command line mail never arrive 
at the destination. I don't know what to check/fix to make it work. At the 
bottom is all the screen messages of a mail and traceroute.
TIA,
--
Chip

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 10:29:18 AM:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but if DNS is not working, I would not be able 
to 
 do a traceroute to a domain name, right? But rather only to an ip 
address? 
 But I can do traceroute to a domain name, and browse the web, by name. 
Is 
 this right or not?
 Thanks,
 --
 Chip W
 
 Steve Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 09:04:26 AM:
 
  Looks to me like you dont have DNS workin right - everything resolves 
to
  your local host instead of gettin the correct MX records.
  
  
  On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I just set up a new box with fbsd-5.1 and it appears that the email 
 never 
   leaves the box, or at least it never arrives at its intended 
 destination. 
   I have set up previous versions of freebsd and never had a problem 
 sending 
   mail with out any configuration of sendmail. The machine does 
connect 
 and 
   browse the internet. My rc.conf has sendmail_enable=NO. So it should 

 be 
   able to send, but not receive, which is what I want.I have included 
 the 
   mail -v messages below. I have tried to send to 4 different 
addresses, 
 
   including the freebsd-test list, no messages show up at any 
addresses.
   Any idea why mail is not being sent?
   
   Thanks
   Chip W
   Simrad, Inc
   --
-bash-2.05b$ mail -v -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
test
.
EOT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
220 simradusa.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:20:53 
-0800 (PST)
 EHLO simradusa.com
250-simradusa.com Hello localhost.simrad.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet 
you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
 MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=48
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
 RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DATA
250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
 .
250 2.0.0 hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for delivery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for 
delivery)
Closing connection to [127.0.0.1]
 QUIT
221 2.0.0 simradusa.com closing connection
-bash-2.05b$ traceroute www.yahoo.com
traceroute: Warning: www.yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using 
216.109.118.77
traceroute to www.yahoo.akadns.net (216.109.118.77), 64 hops max, 40 byte 
packets
 1  157.237.65.200 (157.237.65.200)  0.585 ms  0.442 ms  0.396 ms
 2  * * *
 3  Loopback0.GW7.SEA1.ALTER.NET (137.39.2.41)  6.646 ms  4.957 ms  7.705 
ms
 4  146.ATM3-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.170)  5.021 ms  5.372 ms 
5.032 ms
 5  0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.225)  5.117 ms  5.354 ms 
5.442 ms
 6  POS6-0.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.17)  9.381 ms  5.093 ms  6.418 
ms
 7  pos6-3.hsa2.Seattle1.Level3.net (209.0.227.153)  5.413 ms  5.258 ms 
6.232 ms
 8  ge-6-1-1.mp2.Seattle1.level3.net (209.247.9.85)  5.777 ms  5.528 ms 
6.340 ms
 9  so-2-0-0.bbr2.Washington1.level3.net (209.247.10.130)  70.657 ms 
70.971 ms  74.569 ms
10  gige9-2.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.163)  70.584 ms 
70.999 ms  70.339 ms
11  unknown.Level3.net (63.210.59.254)  71.428 ms  71.252 ms  71.040 ms
12  vl30.bas1-m.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.120.142)  71.191 ms  72.190 ms 
71.138 ms
13  p14.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.118.77)  71.915 ms  71.698 ms  71.491 
ms
-bash-2.05b$
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
What does 'mailq' tell you?
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread Lucas Holt
Just out of curiosity have you used nslookup to check if MX records are 
resolving ok?

Have you checked the logs?   Does your host have forward and reverse 
dns working correctly and they match?  Mail servers often reject mail 
coming from machines without proper dns entries.  DNS not working right 
means much more than just can i resolve a site on the box.

On Nov 6, 2003, at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got to get this working. The suggestion that DNS is not working 
right
can't be correct, I can browse the web and do traceroutes to named 
sites
without a problem. The emails sent from the command line mail never 
arrive
at the destination. I don't know what to check/fix to make it work. At 
the
bottom is all the screen messages of a mail and traceroute.
TIA,
--
Chip

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 10:29:18 AM:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if DNS is not working, I would not be 
able
to
do a traceroute to a domain name, right? But rather only to an ip
address?
But I can do traceroute to a domain name, and browse the web, by name.
Is
this right or not?
Thanks,
--
Chip W
Steve Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 09:04:26 AM:

Looks to me like you dont have DNS workin right - everything resolves
to
your local host instead of gettin the correct MX records.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just set up a new box with fbsd-5.1 and it appears that the email
never
leaves the box, or at least it never arrives at its intended
destination.
I have set up previous versions of freebsd and never had a problem
sending
mail with out any configuration of sendmail. The machine does
connect
and
browse the internet. My rc.conf has sendmail_enable=NO. So it should

be
able to send, but not receive, which is what I want.I have included
the
mail -v messages below. I have tried to send to 4 different
addresses,

including the freebsd-test list, no messages show up at any
addresses.
Any idea why mail is not being sent?

Thanks
Chip W
Simrad, Inc
--
-bash-2.05b$ mail -v -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
test
.
EOT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
220 simradusa.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 
12:20:53
-0800 (PST)
EHLO simradusa.com
250-simradusa.com Hello localhost.simrad.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to 
meet
you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=48
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
.
250 2.0.0 hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for delivery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for
delivery)
Closing connection to [127.0.0.1]
QUIT
221 2.0.0 simradusa.com closing connection
-bash-2.05b$ traceroute www.yahoo.com
traceroute: Warning: www.yahoo.com has multiple addresses; using
216.109.118.77
traceroute to www.yahoo.akadns.net (216.109.118.77), 64 hops max, 40 
byte
packets
 1  157.237.65.200 (157.237.65.200)  0.585 ms  0.442 ms  0.396 ms
 2  * * *
 3  Loopback0.GW7.SEA1.ALTER.NET (137.39.2.41)  6.646 ms  4.957 ms  
7.705
ms
 4  146.ATM3-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.170)  5.021 ms  5.372 ms
5.032 ms
 5  0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.225)  5.117 ms  5.354 ms
5.442 ms
 6  POS6-0.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.17)  9.381 ms  5.093 ms  
6.418
ms
 7  pos6-3.hsa2.Seattle1.Level3.net (209.0.227.153)  5.413 ms  5.258 ms
6.232 ms
 8  ge-6-1-1.mp2.Seattle1.level3.net (209.247.9.85)  5.777 ms  5.528 ms
6.340 ms
 9  so-2-0-0.bbr2.Washington1.level3.net (209.247.10.130)  70.657 ms
70.971 ms  74.569 ms
10  gige9-2.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.163)  70.584 ms
70.999 ms  70.339 ms
11  unknown.Level3.net (63.210.59.254)  71.428 ms  71.252 ms  71.040 ms
12  vl30.bas1-m.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.120.142)  71.191 ms  72.190 ms
71.138 ms
13  p14.www.dcn.yahoo.com (216.109.118.77)  71.915 ms  71.698 ms  
71.491
ms
-bash-2.05b$
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread chip . wiegand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2003 01:23:22 PM:

 What does 'mailq' tell you?
 ___

Here is the results of mailq -

simradusa# mailq | less
/var/spool/mqueue (8 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---
hA6KKrBZ0040865 Thu Nov  6 12:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6K6bBZ0040575 Thu Nov  6 12:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mail.pioneernet.net.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6IAdBZ003813   38 Thu Nov  6 10:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6HF9BZ0036805 Thu Nov  6 09:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4Gc7wG000649   30 Tue Nov  4 08:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4GXHwG000641   15 Tue Nov  4 08:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4FCFdC099301   21 Tue Nov  4 07:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4F8udC099278   13 Tue Nov  4 07:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total requests: 8
(END)
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread chip . wiegand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2003 01:40:52 PM:

 Just out of curiosity have you used nslookup to check if MX records are 
 resolving ok?

Here are some nslookup results -

simradusa# nslookup www.simrad.com
Server:  ussea01.simrad.net.int
Address:  157.237.65.101

Name:simrad.com
Address:  193.69.73.8
Aliases:  www.simrad.com

simradusa# nslookup www.yahoo.com
Server:  ussea01.simrad.net.int
Address:  157.237.65.101

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:www.yahoo.akadns.net
Addresses:  66.218.71.89, 66.218.71.92, 66.218.71.94, 66.218.71.80
  66.218.70.49, 66.218.71.87, 66.218.71.91, 66.218.71.84
Aliases:  www.yahoo.com

simradusa# nslookup www.wiegand.org
Server:  ussea01.simrad.net.int
Address:  157.237.65.101

Name:www.wiegand.org
Address:  66.114.131.10

 Have you checked the logs? 

Here is a small part of the maillog -

Nov  6 14:35:25 simradusa sm-mta[4328]: hA4Gc7wG000649: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=2+05:57:15, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=97503
50, relay=mx4.mail.yahoo.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed 
out with mx4.mail.yahoo
.com.
Nov  6 14:35:25 simradusa sm-mta[4328]: hA4GXHwG000641: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=2+06:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=97503
50, relay=mx3.eunet.no., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed out 
with mx3.eunet.no.
Nov  6 14:35:25 simradusa sm-mta[4328]: hA4FCFdC099301: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=2+07:23:09, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=10110338,
 relay=mx4.mail.yahoo.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed out 
with mx4.mail.yahoo.co
m.
Nov  6 14:35:25 simradusa sm-mta[4328]: hA4F8udC099278: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=2+07:26:29, xdelay=00:00:00, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=10200338,
 relay=mx3.eunet.no., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with 
mx3.eunet.no.
(END)

 Does your host have forward and reverse dns working correctly and they 
match? 

I don't know how to verify this.

 Mail servers often reject mail coming from machines without proper dns 
entries.  DNS   not working right means much more than just can i resolve 
a site on the box.

--
Chip

 On Nov 6, 2003, at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've got to get this working. The suggestion that DNS is not working 
  right
  can't be correct, I can browse the web and do traceroutes to named 
  sites
  without a problem. The emails sent from the command line mail never 
  arrive
  at the destination. I don't know what to check/fix to make it work. At 

  the
  bottom is all the screen messages of a mail and traceroute.
  TIA,
  --
  Chip
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 10:29:18 AM:
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but if DNS is not working, I would not be 
  able
  to
  do a traceroute to a domain name, right? But rather only to an ip
  address?
  But I can do traceroute to a domain name, and browse the web, by 
name.
  Is
  this right or not?
  Thanks,
  --
  Chip W
 
  Steve Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2003 09:04:26 AM:
 
  Looks to me like you dont have DNS workin right - everything 
resolves
  to
  your local host instead of gettin the correct MX records.
 
 
  On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just set up a new box with fbsd-5.1 and it appears that the email
  never
  leaves the box, or at least it never arrives at its intended
  destination.
  I have set up previous versions of freebsd and never had a problem
  sending
  mail with out any configuration of sendmail. The machine does
  connect
  and
  browse the internet. My rc.conf has sendmail_enable=NO. So it 
should
 
  be
  able to send, but not receive, which is what I want.I have included
  the
  mail -v messages below. I have tried to send to 4 different
  addresses,
 
  including the freebsd-test list, no messages show up at any
  addresses.
  Any idea why mail is not being sent?
 
  Thanks
  Chip W
  Simrad, Inc
  --
  -bash-2.05b$ mail -v -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  test
  .
  EOT
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
  220 simradusa.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.9; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 
  12:20:53
  -0800 (PST)
  EHLO simradusa.com
  250-simradusa.com Hello localhost.simrad.com [127.0.0.1], pleased to 
  meet
  you
  250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
  250-PIPELINING
  250-8BITMIME
  250-SIZE
  250-DSN
  250-ETRN
  250-DELIVERBY
  250 HELP
  MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=48
  250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
  RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DATA
  250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok
  354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
  .
  250 2.0.0 hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for delivery
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (hA6KKrBZ004086 Message accepted for
  delivery)
  Closing connection to [127.0.0.1]
  QUIT
  221 2.0.0 simradusa.com closing connection
  -bash-2.05b$ traceroute www.yahoo.com
  traceroute: Warning: 

Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:37:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 simradusa# mailq | less
 /var/spool/mqueue (8 requests)
 -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
 Sender/Recipient---
 hA6KKrBZ0040865 Thu Nov  6 12:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA6K6bBZ0040575 Thu Nov  6 12:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mail.pioneernet.net.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA6IAdBZ003813   38 Thu Nov  6 10:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA6HF9BZ0036805 Thu Nov  6 09:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA4Gc7wG000649   30 Tue Nov  4 08:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA4GXHwG000641   15 Tue Nov  4 08:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA4FCFdC099301   21 Tue Nov  4 07:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hA4F8udC099278   13 Tue Nov  4 07:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Total requests: 8

The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
would be to:

 telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp

No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
upstream or the receivers).

Cheers.
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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread chip . wiegand
Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2003 03:23:43 PM:

 On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:37:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  simradusa# mailq | less
  hA4F8udC099278   13 Tue Nov  4 07:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Total requests: 8
 
 The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
 connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
 would be to:
 
 telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
 
 No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
 upstream or the receivers).
 
 Cheers.
 -- 
 Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tried that, it just sits on 

simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
Trying 216.136.129.5...

and never connects.
--
Chip


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Anymore help out there

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Huff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
   connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
   would be to:
   
   telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
   
   No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
   upstream or the receivers).
  
  Tried that, it just sits on 
  
  simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
  Trying 216.136.129.5...
  
  and never connects.

Bingo.  Same response here, and I know I'm being blocked.
Time to talk to the ISP 


Robert Huff





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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread slave-mike
You need to configure sendmail to route via your ISP's SMTP gateway.
Many IP's are listed in a 'dial up user blacklist', and yahoo, aol, etc
will reject your mail otherwise.
REF: SmartHost in you sendmail config. webmin is your friend.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2003 01:23:22 PM:


What does 'mailq' tell you?
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Here is the results of mailq -

simradusa# mailq | less
/var/spool/mqueue (8 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---
hA6KKrBZ0040865 Thu Nov  6 12:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6K6bBZ0040575 Thu Nov  6 12:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mail.pioneernet.net.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6IAdBZ003813   38 Thu Nov  6 10:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA6HF9BZ0036805 Thu Nov  6 09:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4Gc7wG000649   30 Tue Nov  4 08:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4GXHwG000641   15 Tue Nov  4 08:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4FCFdC099301   21 Tue Nov  4 07:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx4.mail.yahoo.com.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hA4F8udC099278   13 Tue Nov  4 07:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Operation timed out with mx3.eunet.no.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total requests: 8
(END)
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Re: Anymore help out there

2003-11-06 Thread slave-mike
Set your SmartHost in your sendmail config to relay through your ISP's 
SMTP relay will fix the problem.

Robert Huff wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
 connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
 would be to:
 
 telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
 
 No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
 upstream or the receivers).

Tried that, it just sits on 

simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
Trying 216.136.129.5...
and never connects.


Bingo.  Same response here, and I know I'm being blocked.
Time to talk to the ISP 
			Robert Huff





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Re: Anymore help out there? Re: mail never gets sent

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 03:32:31PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
  The timeouts look suspicious. Is your upstream blocking outgoing SMTP
  connections (perhaps in an attempt to stop spam)? A quick way to check
  would be to:
  
  telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
  
  No response would mean that someone is blocking you out (either
  upstream or the receivers).
  
  Cheers.
  -- 
  Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Tried that, it just sits on 
 
 simradusa# telnet mx4.mail.yahoo.com smtp
 Trying 216.136.129.5...

I'd talk to your ISP and see if they're doing anything strange with
outgoing SMTP connections. If you've got a firewall set up, I'd check
the rules on that as well.

I don't think you're on a blacklist, 'cos if that were the case, you'd
usually get a:

550 You're on a blacklist, yadda, yadda.

response instead.
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