Re: Automatic bounce problems

2003-07-16 Thread vizion communication
Brian

I hate to say this Brian but it is your conclusion that is
silly.

Seeing as the mails that have bounced did not originate from
me but from some other person posting to the list and were
forwarded by freebsd-questions to an ISP's server from which
they were bounced there can be no way in which the simple
cure could be for me to change my headers..(seing as
neither I nor my systems neither originated nor had any
contact with the message) if that was the case why does this
mail not produce the same result? Also the mails I am
sending to freebsd-questions (such as this one and the last
one towhich you replied - are not beeing bounced.

Sounds to me like you do not (with many good reasons)like
MS$ but have jumped to the erroneous conclusion that Outlook
must be to blame when on this occasion when it could not
possible have any connection with the incident.

Does anyone have any useful theories?

David


 Of course!  As I said.  You must be using Outlook or
somethng equally
 silly.  Look at the superfluous header under  Original
Message.

 The cure is simple.  When replying, delete that header.






  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: vizion communication [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Automatic bounce problems
 
   On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:58 am, vizion communication
wrote:
For the second time I have had mails to me stopped
due
 
  to
 
automati claissification of mails which have
temproarily
 
  not
 
been accepted by a mail server to mailserver
malfunction
 
  at
 
an ISP. This is the only freebsd list for which this
has
occured.
  
   FWIW, one characteristic of spam is the inclusion of
the
 
  recipent's
 
   email address in the body of the message.  Hence some
 
  filters will
 
   bounce such messages.
   Unfortunately, M$ Outlook automatically and completely
 
  stupidly,
 
   includes a header showing the sender's email address
in
 
  it's reply - so
 
   the message gets classified as spam.
  
   What does your mailer do when you Reply?
  
   --
   Regards,
   Brian
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Automatic bounce problems

2003-07-15 Thread vizion communication
Hi

For the second time I have had mails to me stopped due to
automati claissification of mails which have temproarily not
been accepted by a mail server to mailserver malfunction at
an ISP. This is the only freebsd list for which this has
occured.

Could someone please look into this problem. Perhaps the
number of undeleiverable mails which trigger the auto cutoff
of an address are set too low ??

Anyway it does seem weird  -- I have received over 500 mails
today without any problem.

David

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Re: Automatic bounce problems

2003-07-15 Thread Brian Astill
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:58 am, vizion communication wrote:

 For the second time I have had mails to me stopped due to
 automati claissification of mails which have temproarily not
 been accepted by a mail server to mailserver malfunction at
 an ISP. This is the only freebsd list for which this has
 occured.

FWIW, one characteristic of spam is the inclusion of the recipent's 
email address in the body of the message.  Hence some filters will 
bounce such messages.
Unfortunately, M$ Outlook automatically and completely stupidly, 
includes a header showing the sender's email address in it's reply - so 
the message gets classified as spam.

What does your mailer do when you Reply?

-- 
Regards,
Brian
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Fw: Automatic bounce problems

2003-07-15 Thread vizion communication

- Original Message -
From: vizion communication [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brian Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic bounce problems


 I had not posted anything to the list - so if there was a
 bounce it must have been in consequence of an email
 emanating from another list partcipant and distribted by
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 As to what happens to my reply -- please see this email!!!

 David
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: vizion communication [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Automatic bounce problems


  On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:58 am, vizion communication
wrote:
 
   For the second time I have had mails to me stopped due
 to
   automati claissification of mails which have
temproarily
 not
   been accepted by a mail server to mailserver
malfunction
 at
   an ISP. This is the only freebsd list for which this
has
   occured.
 
  FWIW, one characteristic of spam is the inclusion of the
 recipent's
  email address in the body of the message.  Hence some
 filters will
  bounce such messages.
  Unfortunately, M$ Outlook automatically and completely
 stupidly,
  includes a header showing the sender's email address in
 it's reply - so
  the message gets classified as spam.
 
  What does your mailer do when you Reply?
 
  --
  Regards,
  Brian
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