Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
Kiffin Gish wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious is all. Well, I'm using bacula with the following config: a) 1 Windows client (only some data to backup); b) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (I just backup /etc, /usr/local/etc, ... and it holds daily backup on a disk); c) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (main big chunk of data to save and tape drive used monthly for full backups). Initially it was not that easy to setup, but I must admin it's working very well now. I haven't by now even considered the bare metal restore option. bye av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
Kiffin Gish wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just dump is OK for all of them. works fine. it's sometimes good to look at simplest tools, as they are usually the best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i like to know wich one...? All...? Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4 and 1 Linux box. I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or amanda...? Amanda I use is with FreeBSD since 3 someting and win9x, nt, 2k, xp, whatever win that Samba knows to talk to. I have no Linux so I cannot say, but I see no reason it would not work. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
On 12/8/05, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a = number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to o= ne another using Samba.=20 Advantage of Amanda, if I understand well, is that you don't need to install anything on your Windows machines. I have been using Amanda to backup various Unixes and Windows for years now and it is very satisfactory. I even wrote some web interface so that Windows user could add some shares to back-up, without any sys admin help. OK that bit has not been tested with XP... Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i like to know wich one...? All...? Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4 and 1 Linux box. I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or amanda...? Greetings!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious is all. Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Kiffin Gish wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious is all. Amanda is the one that works with Samba. Bacula has its own client/server software. I have a similar home network. I used Bacula for over a year. I used the SQLite database for the catalog and backed up to a Raid array. I chose bacula because it allows me to have a single backup solution for both Windows and BSD machines, and the only thing I need to set up for communication is TCP/IP. I had some serious deadlocking problems with bacula recently, and was led to believe that those problems were corrected in the version that's currently in the ports collection. However I'm now having hardware problems (why did I buy a $20 RAID controller?) and am unable to make backups of any kind. I will probably give bacula another try after I fix my hardware problems. I have never tried Amanda. These are the only two solutions I know of for making automated backups of both Windows and BSD machines. I've read that bacula can make a backup that's complete enough to do a bare metal recovery on BSD. Thankfully I've never had the opportunity to test that myself. I don't believe either bacula or amanda can make a complete enough backup to do a bare metal recovery of a Windows machine because Windows locks so many critical system files while it's in operation. I wonder if a combination of Microsoft's backup utilities and Samba might accomplish this. There are several simple and good backup solutions for FreeBSD. It's those darn Windows machines that are so hard to back up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
Well I use amanda. It's DB doesn't need an external one like bacula so restores can be less troublesome. BUT it can't span tapes if a backup is larger than a tape It can use a virtual tape setup so it you have a nice big disk(array) you can backup to that. I'd say try amanda, if things aren't working out try bacula - it's nice to hav a choice... -- Martin On 12/29/05, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious is all. Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
Quoting Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. Kiffin, I think you may run into some snags trying to use Amanda in a disk to disk backup scheme. I use it everyday and it works great. I have also used it in a mixed (Win/BSD) environment with no problems. I may suggest you look at the various rsync-based solutions for disk to disk archivinga. I've personally used rsync-backup (look on freshmeat.net) with excellent results. Bob -- Robert Lee PGP: D3EE2268 pgp.mit.edu I prefer email in plain text pgpBAT788zTvo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...
I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a = number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to o= ne another using Samba.=20 Advantage of Amanda, if I understand well, is that you don't need to install anything on your Windows machines. I have been using Amanda to backup various Unixes and Windows for years now and it is very satisfactory. I even wrote some web interface so that Windows user could add some shares to back-up, without any sys admin help. OK that bit has not been tested with XP... Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
