Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Kiffin Gish wrote:
I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a 
number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to 
one another using Samba. 
What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just 
want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive.


Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just


dump is OK for all of them. works fine.

it's sometimes good to look at simplest tools, as they are usually the 
best.



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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-13 Thread Andrea Venturoli

Kiffin Gish wrote:
I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. 


What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want 
to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive.

Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious 
is all.


Well, I'm using bacula with the following config:

a) 1 Windows client (only some data to backup);
b) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (I just backup /etc, /usr/local/etc, ... and 
it holds daily backup on a disk);
c) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (main big chunk of data to save and tape 
drive used monthly for full backups).


Initially it was not that easy to setup, but I must admin it's working 
very well now.

I haven't by now even considered the bare metal restore option.

 bye
av.
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-12 Thread Olivier Nicole
>   This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i
> like to know wich one...? All...?
>Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4
> and 1 Linux box.
>   I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple
> tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is
> winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or
> amanda...?

Amanda I use is with FreeBSD since 3 someting and win9x, nt, 2k, xp,
whatever win that Samba knows to talk to.

I have no Linux so I cannot say, but I see no reason it would not
work.

Olivier
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-10 Thread perikillo
On 12/8/05, Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a =
> > number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to o=
> > ne another using Samba.=20
>
> Advantage of Amanda, if I understand well, is that you don't need to
> install anything on your Windows machines.
>
> I have been using Amanda to backup various Unixes and Windows for
> years now and it is very satisfactory.
>
> I even wrote some web interface so that Windows user could add some
> shares to back-up, without any sys admin help. OK that bit has not
> been tested with XP...
>
> Olivier
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  This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i
like to know wich one...? All...?
   Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4
and 1 Linux box.
  I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple
tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is
winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or
amanda...?
  Greetings!!!
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a =
> number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to o=
> ne another using Samba.=20

Advantage of Amanda, if I understand well, is that you don't need to
install anything on your Windows machines.

I have been using Amanda to backup various Unixes and Windows for
years now and it is very satisfactory.

I even wrote some web interface so that Windows user could add some
shares to back-up, without any sys admin help. OK that bit has not
been tested with XP...

Olivier
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-08 Thread Bob Lee
Quoting Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a 
> number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one 
> another using Samba. 
> 
Kiffin,
I think you may run into some snags trying to use Amanda in a disk to
disk backup scheme. I use it everyday and it works great. I have also
used it in a mixed (Win/BSD) environment with no problems. I may
suggest you look at the various rsync-based solutions for disk to disk
archivinga. I've personally used rsync-backup (look on freshmeat.net)
with excellent results.

Bob
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
Well I use amanda. It's DB doesn't need an external one like bacula so
restores can be less troublesome. BUT it can't span tapes if a backup is
larger than a tape

It can use a virtual tape setup so it you have a nice big disk(array) you
can backup to that.

I'd say try amanda, if things aren't working out try bacula - it's nice to
hav a choice...

--
Martin

On 12/29/05, Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a
> number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to
> one another using Samba.
>
> What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just
> want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive.
>
> Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just
> curious is all.
>
> 
> Kiffin Gish
> Gouda, The Netherlands
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Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-08 Thread Luke Dean



On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Kiffin Gish wrote:

I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a 
number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected 
to one another using Samba.


What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I 
just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape 
drive.


Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just 
curious is all.


Amanda is the one that works with Samba.  Bacula has its own client/server 
software.


I have a similar home network.  I used Bacula for over a year.  I used the 
SQLite database for the catalog and backed up to a Raid array.  I chose 
bacula because it allows me to have a single backup solution for both 
Windows and BSD machines, and the only thing I need to set up for 
communication is TCP/IP.


I had some serious deadlocking problems with bacula recently, and was led 
to believe that those problems were corrected in the version that's 
currently in the ports collection.  However I'm now having hardware 
problems (why did I buy a $20 RAID controller?) and am unable to make 
backups of any kind.  I will probably give bacula another try after I fix 
my hardware problems.


I have never tried Amanda.

These are the only two solutions I know of for making automated backups of 
both Windows and BSD machines.


I've read that bacula can make a backup that's complete enough to do a 
bare metal recovery on BSD.  Thankfully I've never had the opportunity to 
test that myself.  I don't believe either bacula or amanda can make a 
complete enough backup to do a bare metal recovery of a Windows machine 
because Windows locks so many critical system files while it's in 
operation.  I wonder if a combination of Microsoft's backup utilities and 
Samba might accomplish this.  There are several simple and good backup 
solutions for FreeBSD.  It's those darn Windows machines that are so hard 
to back up.

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Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ...

2005-12-08 Thread Kiffin Gish
I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number 
of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another 
using Samba. 

What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want 
to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive.

Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious 
is all.


Kiffin Gish
Gouda, The Netherlands
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