Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:43:16AM -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > > > i know that it isn't officially released, but the ISOs are availible > > > on FTPs already. but these ISOs should change it's consistance and > > > will be regenerated by the time. but anyway. i consider 5.3 to be > > > better choice then 5.2.1... > > > > > > > Are the isos already there? Oh, yes, they are. BUT it isnt released yet. > > But again, I truly see your point. > > > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but wouldn't the official > terminology (arguing semantics) be that it's released and not > announced? It seems that this is the way that I've heard it. It's both released and announced. People only know when the release has happened because they see the announcement from the RE team. Mostly that's because making a release is a process that takes several months, and even the last stages of distributing the release .iso images around all of the various servers worldwide takes a day or so. It's generally possible to find the release versions of the software on some of the servers quite a while before it's available on all of them. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgpdD7dB6usMl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
> > i know that it isn't officially released, but the ISOs are availible > > on FTPs already. but these ISOs should change it's consistance and > > will be regenerated by the time. but anyway. i consider 5.3 to be > > better choice then 5.2.1... > > > > Are the isos already there? Oh, yes, they are. BUT it isnt released yet. > But again, I truly see your point. > Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but wouldn't the official terminology (arguing semantics) be that it's released and not announced? It seems that this is the way that I've heard it. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re[2]: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
Co si robil vcera Steven, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 11:52:38 PM, you wrote: > This is a live server. I cant format it or take it down for over 5-6hours... > In theory you should be able to update to 5.3 from 5.2.1 correct>? correct. just carefully read /usr/src/UPDATING and /usr/ports/UPDATING -- Uz ma nic nenapada... +--==/\/\==--+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |\\\'',) The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_)To +--==\/\/==--+ Serve [ Lacklandove zakony 1. Nikdy nebud prvy ! 2. Nikdy nebud posledny ! 3. Dobrovolne nerob nic ! ] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
This is a live server. I cant format it or take it down for over 5-6hours... In theory you should be able to update to 5.3 from 5.2.1 correct>? Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] DriftNet Web Services http://www.drifthost.com Home: +61 2 94274857 Fax: +61 2 94274857 Mobile +61 (0) 404 085644 -Original Message- From: DanGer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2004 9:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steven Adams Subject: Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High Saturday, November 6, 2004, 6:41:50 AM, you wrote: > Hi, hello > I run FreeBSD 5.2.1 with the following hardware you can upgrade to 5.3, it's now -release > I am really confussed what else I can do to find out what is causing this > problem as the server completely locks up when it goes to 50+ load. > It seems that its copying a lot of information to the swap drive and is > running out of ram, which I don't know why it seems apache is taking up all > of the ram for some weird reason? don't you use apache 2.x ? if so, there is a new DDoS "feature" :) info: http://www.securiteam.com/unixfocus/6A0010KBPE.html > Here is my demsg, I hope you guys can help! -- Good luck +--==/\/\==--+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |\\\'',) The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_)To +--==\/\/==--+ Serve [ Uz sa zase tvaris prilis vazne. ] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
DanGer wrote: i know that it isn't officially released, but the ISOs are availible on FTPs already. but these ISOs should change it's consistance and will be regenerated by the time. but anyway. i consider 5.3 to be better choice then 5.2.1... Are the isos already there? Oh, yes, they are. BUT it isnt released yet. But again, I truly see your point. -- cso ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re[2]: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
Musim ti nieco napisat Christer, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote: > DanGer wrote: >> you can upgrade to 5.3, it's now -release >> > Not quite. > According to www.freebsd.org, the latest NT(!) release is 5.2.1. > On the other hand, Scott almost announced it some hours ago :) > As in, 5.3 will be out this weekend. i know that it isn't officially released, but the ISOs are availible on FTPs already. but these ISOs should change it's consistance and will be regenerated by the time. but anyway. i consider 5.3 to be better choice then 5.2.1... -- Best regards, +--==/\/\==--+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |\\\'',) The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_)To +--==\/\/==--+ Serve [ Smutne je, ze hlupaci su tak sebaisti a ludia mudri tak plni pochybnosti. ] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
DanGer wrote: you can upgrade to 5.3, it's now -release Not quite. According to www.freebsd.org, the latest NT(!) release is 5.2.1. On the other hand, Scott almost announced it some hours ago :) As in, 5.3 will be out this weekend. -- cso ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
Saturday, November 6, 2004, 6:41:50 AM, you wrote: > Hi, hello > I run FreeBSD 5.2.1 with the following hardware you can upgrade to 5.3, it's now -release > I am really confussed what else I can do to find out what is causing this > problem as the server completely locks up when it goes to 50+ load. > It seems that its copying a lot of information to the swap drive and is > running out of ram, which I don't know why it seems apache is taking up all > of the ram for some weird reason? don't you use apache 2.x ? if so, there is a new DDoS "feature" :) info: http://www.securiteam.com/unixfocus/6A0010KBPE.html > Here is my demsg, I hope you guys can help! -- Good luck +--==/\/\==--+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |\\\'',) The | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^Power | http://danger.homeunix.org | .\._/_)To +--==\/\/==--+ Serve [ Uz sa zase tvaris prilis vazne. ] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
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Re: Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
In the last episode (Nov 06), Steven Adams said: > We host a couple or sites on this server (not very big sites). My > server load is always around 0.90 - 3.40. Sometimes it will jump up > to 10-15. > > At random it will jump up to 30-40 load and I wont even be able to > get to the server, typing commands on the remote ip based kvm is VERY > slow sometimes missing letters. As soon as im able to get top running > it shows > > > > last pid: 52614; load averages: 6.82, 15.75, 15.18 up 1+03:07:12 16:32:22 > > 462 processes: 1 running, 460 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.6% interrupt, 98.7% idle > > Mem: 615M Active, 68M Inact, 288M Wired, 29M Cache, 112M Buf, 1844K Free > Swap: 1536M Total, 555M Used, 981M Free, 36% Inuse, 12K In 500MB of swap used? You might have a process that's allocating too much memory and causing the rest of the processes to swap to disk. Try keeping a top session running all the time so you can monitor swap usage and see if you notice any processes taking more memory than they should. > I did notice once when running systat -vmstat the amr0(scsi raid) jumps up > to 99% busy copying 2-3MB/s for a few moments then goes back down.. That could be either regular disk activity or swap thrashing. "vmstat 1" will tell you (watch the fre, pi and po columns). > After one of the times it went to 50load it got this on the console > screen. FYI: amrd0s1h is /home partition > > Swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: amrd0s1h, blkno: 103776, size: 32768 > Swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: amrd0s1h, blkno: 130801, size: 4096 Most likely you're thrashing. I've seen a couple other people mention this error with 5.2.1, but not lately, so chances are 5.3 has fixed this particular problem. > It seems that its copying a lot of information to the swap drive and > is running out of ram, which I don't know why it seems apache is > taking up all of the ram for some weird reason? Not weird at all. If you are using perl or php modules, they can really suck up ram if you get a lot of page hits at once. You might want to look at using fastcgi to separate perl/php from the apache process itself. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Big Problem, Load Avg Very High
Hi, I run FreeBSD 5.2.1 with the following hardware Acer Server: Altos LSI Megaraid with 5x 36 gig scsi on raid 5. Dual xeon cpu's 1GIG ECC Ram 2x 250GIG IDE Drives We host a couple or sites on this server (not very big sites). My server load is always around 0.90 - 3.40. Sometimes it will jump up to 10-15. At random it will jump up to 30-40 load and I wont even be able to get to the server, typing commands on the remote ip based kvm is VERY slow sometimes missing letters. As soon as im able to get top running it shows last pid: 52614; load averages: 6.82, 15.75, 15.18 up 1+03:07:12 16:32:22 462 processes: 1 running, 460 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.6% system, 0.6% interrupt, 98.7% idle Mem: 615M Active, 68M Inact, 288M Wired, 29M Cache, 112M Buf, 1844K Free Swap: 1536M Total, 555M Used, 981M Free, 36% Inuse, 12K In === I am trying to figure out why the load is so high for a server that should be able to handle it easily.. I did notice once when running systat -vmstat the amr0(scsi raid) jumps up to 99% busy copying 2-3MB/s for a few moments then goes back down.. After one of the times it went to 50load it got this on the console screen. FYI: amrd0s1h is /home partition == Swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: amrd0s1h, blkno: 103776, size: 32768 Swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: amrd0s1h, blkno: 130801, size: 4096 == I wanted to check the logs but for some weird reason syslogd is not logging to /var/log/security and /var/log/blah I tried to do a killall -HUP syslog and killall -9 syslogd ; syslogd It logs to the other log files but wont log to the /var/log/blah and /var/log/security so I cant see if there Is a problem with the server. My config is below. *.*/var/log/blah *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages security.* /var/log/security auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log local0.notice;local0.debug;mail.*;mail.none;mail.info;local0.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info/var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.=debug/var/log/debug.log *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log # touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.*/var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.*@loghost # uncomment these if you're running inn # news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit # news.err /var/log/news/news.err # news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice !startslip *.* /var/log/slip.log !ppp *.* /var/log/ppp.log I am really confussed what else I can do to find out what is causing this problem as the server completely locks up when it goes to 50+ load. It seems that its copying a lot of information to the swap drive and is running out of ram, which I don't know why it seems apache is taking up all of the ram for some weird reason? Here is my demsg, I hope you guys can help! == Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #3: Wed Sep 29 20:50:16 EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/DRIFTHOST Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc070a000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc070a2bc. ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2392.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037717504 (989 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP):
