Re: Cacti -vs- mrtg

2006-11-10 Thread Don Munyak

Also check out CactiEZ . its a distribution package of sorts that will
load a complete system on a spare box. Basically a quick and dirty for
those not wanting to take all the steps of installing an OS first and
then the packages and plug-ins.

http://cactiusers.org/
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Re: Cacti -vs- mrtg

2006-11-07 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 09:48, Jeff Mohler wrote:
 I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do.

 Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA?

 Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check.

 I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of
 cacti to view performance data.

I wasn't keen on cacti just because I have an irrational dislike of PHP.

I installed cricket (written in Perl), which ISTR also takes a bit of 
wrestling to configure, but seems to work well enough.

Jonathan
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Re: Cacti -vs- mrtg

2006-11-07 Thread Howard Jones

Jeff Mohler wrote:

I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do.

Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA?

Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check.


I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of
cacti to view performance data.


If its just a matter of a package that's not ready for Joe Public
(thats me)..Id accept that.  :) 
I think it's more that there's more than one kind of Joe Public. If you 
want to present your graphs to your customers/users, or a subset to 
different users, or apply the same set of graphs to a number of 
different hosts, or make custom rrdtool graphs (stacks, additional graph 
elements), then Cacti will let you do that. If you just want a quick  
dirty tool that's easy to configure for your handful of hosts, then MRTG 
is just the job.


We use both where I work, with Cacti for the bulk-graphing and customer 
facing stuff, and some MRTG where I just knocked up a quick perl script 
to measure something. Cacti has quite a nice plugin system, and 
importable templates from other users that you might be able to use to 
save yourself some time. I find getting my own templates working in 
Cacti to be a PITA too, though.


shamelessplugIt also has some useful plugins, including a couple of my 
own. The main one of those being PHP Network Weathermap 
(http://wotsit.thingy.com/haj/cacti/) which will work with both MRTG and 
Cacti, to produce graphical overviews of your network./shamelessplug


Bear in mind there are also other tools out there in the MRTG/Cacti 
space: DVG, NRG, Hermes, Cricket... rrdtool.org has a list of many. Most 
are geared towards folks running 100s-1000s of graphs, that I have seen, 
and may not be your kind of thing, as a result.


Best Regards,

Howie
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Re: Cacti -vs- mrtg

2006-11-07 Thread Jeff Mohler

Thats cool..I dont mind the plug.

:)

I want to build a flexable performance analyzer for netapp boxes on
some very critical data..that I can customise per customer if I have
to, down to a 10-15sec window.

I'll have to check out the other tools..heck..I cant get a stock cacti
install to make a graph of my localhost interface counts.  I  dont
wanna get into that here however.

Gimme a customer Pb of storage, and a SOW to configure it by...

PS: Betcha never heard of the middle aged blonde singer dude fromthe UK.   :)

On 11/7/06, Howard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jeff Mohler wrote:
 I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do.

 Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA?

 Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check.


 I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of
 cacti to view performance data.


 If its just a matter of a package that's not ready for Joe Public
 (thats me)..Id accept that.  :)
I think it's more that there's more than one kind of Joe Public. If you
want to present your graphs to your customers/users, or a subset to
different users, or apply the same set of graphs to a number of
different hosts, or make custom rrdtool graphs (stacks, additional graph
elements), then Cacti will let you do that. If you just want a quick 
dirty tool that's easy to configure for your handful of hosts, then MRTG
is just the job.

We use both where I work, with Cacti for the bulk-graphing and customer
facing stuff, and some MRTG where I just knocked up a quick perl script
to measure something. Cacti has quite a nice plugin system, and
importable templates from other users that you might be able to use to
save yourself some time. I find getting my own templates working in
Cacti to be a PITA too, though.

shamelessplugIt also has some useful plugins, including a couple of my
own. The main one of those being PHP Network Weathermap
(http://wotsit.thingy.com/haj/cacti/) which will work with both MRTG and
Cacti, to produce graphical overviews of your network./shamelessplug

Bear in mind there are also other tools out there in the MRTG/Cacti
space: DVG, NRG, Hermes, Cricket... rrdtool.org has a list of many. Most
are geared towards folks running 100s-1000s of graphs, that I have seen,
and may not be your kind of thing, as a result.

Best Regards,

Howie


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Cacti -vs- mrtg

2006-11-06 Thread Jeff Mohler

I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do.

Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA?

Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check.


I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of
cacti to view performance data.


If its just a matter of a package that's not ready for Joe Public
(thats me)..Id accept that.  :)
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