Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Jack Stone wrote: From: Chris Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:59:48 +0100 Update your locate database and see if there are any other instances of the file? Just a shot in the dark Chris Chris: Yes, there are others: The one I can't delete: /tmp2/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm and the others /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/Sys/Hostname.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm What would be the issue if the above exists? I am wondering if you can do something with the other link if there is one, eg delete it. How many links does ls -l /tmp2/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm show. I'm guessing it is linked to the one in perl5/5.6.1. Do you need perl 5.6.1? (sorry lost the earlier threads) Can you delete /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm, then can you delete the one in tmp2? Alternative this thread has instructions which which you might be able to adapt do what you want - see the response from Matthew Seaman involving clri(8) http://groups.google.com/group/fa.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/b031f4a77ccd26a3/0e8f61e4e58fd4a5?lnk=st&q=group%3A*.freebsd.*+%22terminated+with+1+(non-zero)+status%3A+Cross-device+link%22&rnum=3#0e8f61e4e58fd4a5 (sorry rather long line) It relates to Fbsd 4.6 but clri is still around so could still work. It does say it is dangerous and this example relates to a msdos filesystem. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
> I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal. I beleive you tried find -inum. Do you have any lost+found directory at the root top level of the filesystem? I haven't seen any mention of the version of the FreeBSD you are running, nor the type of file system you are having problem with. If you have spare disk/partition, I beleive you could always copy everything (but the problem files) to a new partition and newfs the one making problem. best regards, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
From: Chris Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:59:48 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can move the entire directory package, i.e., local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm but, not just the file. Also, any move must be within the same partition. I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal. THX Jack Update your locate database and see if there are any other instances of the file? Just a shot in the dark Chris Chris: Yes, there are others: The one I can't delete: /tmp2/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm and the others /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/Sys/Hostname.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm What would be the issue if the above exists? THX Jack _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can move the entire directory package, i.e., local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm but, not just the file. Also, any move must be within the same partition. I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal. THX Jack Update your locate database and see if there are any other instances of the file? Just a shot in the dark Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
From: Duane Whitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300 On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote: > >From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 > > > >>From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 > >> > >>"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > >>> > > >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > >>> > > >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > >>> > > >>> >[...] > >>> > > >>> >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not > >>permitted > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > >>> > > >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > >>> > > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > >>> > > >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag > >>would > >>> >be set, but it's something to try. > >>> > > >>> >HTH. > >>> > > >>> >-- > >>> >Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! > >> > >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and > >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the > >>partition. > >> > >>I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the > >>system > >>would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the > >>system, > >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we > >>finally > >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk > >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time > >>before we noticed. > >> > >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files > >>open. > >> > >>HTH. > >> > >>-- > >>Bill Moran > >> > > > >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. > >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! > > > > Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I > tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could > only do that. > > Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr > > mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link > > Does this new hint stike any bells? > > THX > Jack > Hi, Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file? If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files? Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link related? Any files with the same name floating around? Obviously this isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged? Best Regards, Duane Whitty -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can move the entire directory package, i.e., local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm but, not just the file. Also, any move must be within the same partition. I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal. THX Jack _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
From: "Nikolas Britton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:37:52 -0500 On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link Does this new hint stike any bells? http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3A%2A.freebsd.%2A+%22terminated+with+1+%28non-zero%29+status%3A+Cross-device+link%22&qt_s=Search If that doesn't help try using a hammer :-) Nothing new there. I guess it's the hammer. Where is Superman when you need him...?? THX Jack _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
From: Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:37:37 -0700 On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jack Stone wrote: From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > > > >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > > > >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > > > >[...] > > > >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > > > >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > > > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > > > >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag would > >be set, but it's something to try. > > > >HTH. > > > >-- > >Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the partition. I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the system would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the system, but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we finally got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time before we noticed. Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files open. HTH. -- Bill Moran Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could only do that. Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link Does this new hint stike any bells? THX Jack I assume that you tried deleting this as root? Sometimes files have been resistant to my deleting them unless I am root, even when I'm the owner. Have you also tried doing something to the file to write to it, like cat or echo? My theory is that maybe if you did that then tried to delete the file, it will work because you flushed the previous information and closed the file properly. Best of luck, -Garrett Good suggest & I thought you had the answer. I was able to write to the (zero bytes) file with cat and it took the new bytes. But, still can't delete. BTW: Have the permissions set to 777 too. How to find that "crosslink" and break it is the issue I guess. The mystery continues. THX Jack _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote: > >From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 > > > >>From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 > >> > >>"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > >>> > > >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > >>> > > >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > >>> > > >>> >[...] > >>> > > >>> >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not > >>permitted > >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > >>> > > >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > >>> > > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > >>> > > >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag > >>would > >>> >be set, but it's something to try. > >>> > > >>> >HTH. > >>> > > >>> >-- > >>> >Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! > >> > >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and > >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the > >>partition. > >> > >>I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the > >>system > >>would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the > >>system, > >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we > >>finally > >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk > >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time > >>before we noticed. > >> > >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files > >>open. > >> > >>HTH. > >> > >>-- > >>Bill Moran > >> > > > >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. > >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! > > > > Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I > tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could > only do that. > > Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr > > mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link > > Does this new hint stike any bells? > > THX > Jack > Hi, Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file? If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files? Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link related? Any files with the same name floating around? Obviously this isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged? Best Regards, Duane Whitty -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link Does this new hint stike any bells? http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3A%2A.freebsd.%2A+%22terminated+with+1+%28non-zero%29+status%3A+Cross-device+link%22&qt_s=Search If that doesn't help try using a hammer :-) -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jack Stone wrote: From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > > > >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > > > >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > > > >[...] > > > >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > > > >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > > > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > > > >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag would > >be set, but it's something to try. > > > >HTH. > > > >-- > >Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the partition. I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the system would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the system, but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we finally got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time before we noticed. Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files open. HTH. -- Bill Moran Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could only do that. Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link Does this new hint stike any bells? THX Jack I assume that you tried deleting this as root? Sometimes files have been resistant to my deleting them unless I am root, even when I'm the owner. Have you also tried doing something to the file to write to it, like cat or echo? My theory is that maybe if you did that then tried to delete the file, it will work because you flushed the previous information and closed the file properly. Best of luck, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files > >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) > > > >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: > > > >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. > > > >[...] > > > >>Here are the files and the error message: > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted > >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted > > > >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set: > > > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm > ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm > > > >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag would > >be set, but it's something to try. > > > >HTH. > > > >-- > >Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy! If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the partition. I had this happen a number of years ago. We had dirty power and the system would reboot on occasion during brownout. We finally got UPS on the system, but months later we had files that wouldn't delete. The only way we finally got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck. I expect the disk suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time before we noticed. Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files open. HTH. -- Bill Moran Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries. A free cigar to anyone who solves this one! Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could only do that. Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link Does this new hint stike any bells? THX Jack _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
