Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-11-01 Thread Nicholas Wieland
 - Lonnie Cumberland :
 Greetings All,
 
 Actually I did read over that information in the handbook but it only 
 seems to go into detail on mounting a CDROM and then installing the sources.
 
 It does not tell me how, or where to download the sources over the net 
 or if there is some pkg way to get the sources. That is why I have sent 
 these messages to the forum for additional help.

You need to investigate CVSup for updating core and ports as well.

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Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
the migration should not be too difficult.


The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog 
down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just 
been to misconfiguration on my part.


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
compile the kernel to support quotas?


The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to 
download them.


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly 
appreciate it.


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Robert Slade
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 21:35, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 Greetings All,
 
 I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
 the migration should not be too difficult.
 
 The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
 performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
 without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog 
 down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just 
 been to misconfiguration on my part.
 
 Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
 particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.
 
 My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
 compile the kernel to support quotas?
 
 The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
 sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to 
 download them.
 
 If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly 
 appreciate it.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Lonnie
Lonnie,

It's is the handbook see

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

It tell you how to install the source at the beginning.

Rob

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Subhro

Lonnie Cumberland sat at his 'puter and typed on 11/1/2005 3:05:

Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
the migration should not be too difficult.


The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to 
bog down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could 
have just been to misconfiguration on my part.


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
compile the kernel to support quotas?


The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need 
to download them.


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would 
greatly appreciate it.


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
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Did you have a look at the handbook? Read through the chapter which 
describes about building your own kernel and world.


http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/

Thanks
S.

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greetings All,

Actually I did read over that information in the handbook but it only 
seems to go into detail on mounting a CDROM and then installing the sources.


It does not tell me how, or where to download the sources over the net 
or if there is some pkg way to get the sources. That is why I have sent 
these messages to the forum for additional help.


Thanks,
Lonnie

Robert Slade wrote:


On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 21:35, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 


Greetings All,

I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that 
the migration should not be too difficult.


The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog 
down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just 
been to misconfiguration on my part.


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a 
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can 
compile the kernel to support quotas?


The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to 
download them.


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly 
appreciate it.


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
   


Lonnie,

It's is the handbook see

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

It tell you how to install the source at the beginning.

Rob

 


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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Grigory O. Ptashko
Lonnie,

run /stand/sysinstall as root

choose Configure-Distributions-src- choose what sources to install

and sysinstall will ask you what media would you like to use for installation.
You can choose the installation over the net from various servers.

And generally, you have to read chapters number 20 and number 14.14 in the 
handbook to
keep your sources up to date.


 Greetings All,

 I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that
 the migration should not be too difficult.

 The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
 performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
 without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog
 down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just
 been to misconfiguration on my part.

 Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a
 particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.

 My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can
 compile the kernel to support quotas?

 The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
 sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to
 download them.

 If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly
 appreciate it.

 Thanks in advance,
 Lonnie
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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Thanks Grigory,

That did the trick

I am starting to get a feel for the layout of the FreeBSD system and it 
looks to ber really clean.


Thanks again,
Lonnie


Grigory O. Ptashko wrote:


Lonnie,

run /stand/sysinstall as root

choose Configure-Distributions-src- choose what sources to install

and sysinstall will ask you what media would you like to use for installation.
You can choose the installation over the net from various servers.

And generally, you have to read chapters number 20 and number 14.14 in the 
handbook to
keep your sources up to date.


 


Greetings All,
   



 


I am new to FreeBSD but have a lot of Linux experience so I think that
the migration should not be too difficult.
   



 

The reason that I am investigating FreeBSD is because I hear that it 
performs GREAT under heavy loads and many larger ISP are using it 
without fail. In my experience, Linux, although a great OS, seems to bog

down under heavy loading. I could be wrong though and it could have just
been to misconfiguration on my part.
   



 


Well, I have a base installation of FreeBSD 4.11 which is needed for a
particular project but now need to compile the kernel to support QUOTA's.
   



 


My question is how do I install the sources over the web so that I can
compile the kernel to support quotas?
   



 

The FreeBSD docs tell a little, but mostly assume that you have the 
sources already on the system to compile which I do not have and need to

download them.
   



 


If some one could please give me a little guidance then I would greatly
appreciate it.
   



 


Thanks in advance,
Lonnie
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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-10-31 18:25, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Grigory,
 
 That did the trick
 
 I am starting to get a feel for the layout of the FreeBSD system and it 
 looks to ber really clean.

Cool!  What version of FreeBSD did you install, if I may ask?

Once you get the hang of rebuilding everything from the sources,
it may be a worthwhile things to pursue updating to the latest
security fix version of your release or even to the STABLE
version.  By then you'll know how to build everything, so all it
takes is to learn about CVSup and updating the sources over a
network connection :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland
For a particular project as small web hosting company called 
PeoplesQuest Web Hosting Services we are going to be using a control 
panel  H-Sphere that  needs FreeBSD 4.11 because of  some particular 
Java dependency so I have had that version loaded onto the server so 
that we can migrate over from Linux.


If all goes well, then in the future we will update to the latest stable 
versions of FreeBSD but I am going to be carefully watching how it 
performs in comparison to various Linux versions although I am told that 
FreeBSD is very stable and performs extremely well, and better in many 
cases that Linux, under heavy loads. I would like to know more about the 
benchmarks on this so we will be trying to see what happens.


Cheers,
Lonnie


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


On 2005-10-31 18:25, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Thanks Grigory,

That did the trick

I am starting to get a feel for the layout of the FreeBSD system and it 
looks to ber really clean.
   



Cool!  What version of FreeBSD did you install, if I may ask?

Once you get the hang of rebuilding everything from the sources,
it may be a worthwhile things to pursue updating to the latest
security fix version of your release or even to the STABLE
version.  By then you'll know how to build everything, so all it
takes is to learn about CVSup and updating the sources over a
network connection :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-10-31 19:57, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For a particular project as small web hosting company called
 PeoplesQuest Web Hosting Services we are going to be using a
 control panel H-Sphere that needs FreeBSD 4.11 because of some
 particular Java dependency so I have had that version loaded onto
 the server so that we can migrate over from Linux.

That definitely makes sense.  If 4.11 is what you need and it works
fine for your project, then it's absolutely fine to keep using that
version.

 If all goes well, then in the future we will update to the latest
 stable versions of FreeBSD but I am going to be carefully watching
 how it performs in comparison to various Linux versions although I
 am told that FreeBSD is very stable and performs extremely well, and
 better in many cases that Linux, under heavy loads.

To be realistic, FreeBSD doesn't *always* axceed the performance of a
Linux system.  You can certainly find particular workloads for which
Linux outperforms FreeBSD.  The reverse is also true, of course ;-)

Speaking for myself, after almost 7 years of working with FreeBSD,
it's not just the raw performance that keeps me away from Linux
if I can help it.  Other factors count too.

Not to turn this into a huge advocacy thread, let me just say that
the reasons why someone might prefer FreeBSD over Linux have been
discussed about a billion times on this and other mailing lists
of FreeBSD.  You will most certainly find pointers very easily by
Googling around the *.freebsd.* hierarchy of discussion groups[1]
and searching the mailing list archives[2]:

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
[2] http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3A*.freebsd.*

Welcome to the FreeBSD side of the world :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Compile Kernel Question

2005-10-31 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Thanks again,

I look forward to great success with FreeBSD for my projects.

Cheers,
Lonnie


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


On 2005-10-31 19:57, Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


For a particular project as small web hosting company called
PeoplesQuest Web Hosting Services we are going to be using a
control panel H-Sphere that needs FreeBSD 4.11 because of some
particular Java dependency so I have had that version loaded onto
the server so that we can migrate over from Linux.
   



That definitely makes sense.  If 4.11 is what you need and it works
fine for your project, then it's absolutely fine to keep using that
version.

 


If all goes well, then in the future we will update to the latest
stable versions of FreeBSD but I am going to be carefully watching
how it performs in comparison to various Linux versions although I
am told that FreeBSD is very stable and performs extremely well, and
better in many cases that Linux, under heavy loads.
   



To be realistic, FreeBSD doesn't *always* axceed the performance of a
Linux system.  You can certainly find particular workloads for which
Linux outperforms FreeBSD.  The reverse is also true, of course ;-)

Speaking for myself, after almost 7 years of working with FreeBSD,
it's not just the raw performance that keeps me away from Linux
if I can help it.  Other factors count too.

Not to turn this into a huge advocacy thread, let me just say that
the reasons why someone might prefer FreeBSD over Linux have been
discussed about a billion times on this and other mailing lists
of FreeBSD.  You will most certainly find pointers very easily by
Googling around the *.freebsd.* hierarchy of discussion groups[1]
and searching the mailing list archives[2]:

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
[2] http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3A*.freebsd.*

Welcome to the FreeBSD side of the world :)

- Giorgos

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