Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
In a message dated 10/28/04 6:42:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Definition of a Moron: Someone with no sense of humor. :) No, it is more like someone who wastes everyone's time with useless junk just to irritate people. Try doing some real work. Coming from a guy who didn't know what sendmail was a few days ago, thats pretty darn scary. What real work are you engaged in Jerry? You must have me confused just like the rest of your stuff. I didn't post any questions about sendmail. Though I did tell someone that sendmail is available on FreeBSD. Since you are more interested in insulting people than knowing what you are talking about I suggest you grab some sort of holy book - possibly an early MS-DOS manual and stand out on the street corner and do your chants. jerry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:39:49 -0400 (EDT), Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you are more interested in insulting people than knowing what you are talking about I suggest you grab some sort of holy book - possibly an early MS-DOS manual and stand out on the street corner and do your chants. Well said Jerry, Well said ROFLMAO Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development Resources
In a message dated 10/16/04 5:27:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, After looking at the FreeBSD website and looking at docs all over the place, I havent found what I'm looking for, so I decided to mail this list. I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Things like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to develop for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around gcc/make, but I don't know about system and 'net API calls that are specific to FreeBSD, and *NIX in general. If you can point me to a good website, that would help If you can point me to a (recent) book, that would be even better. Much thanks! Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! :D ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development Resources
On 2004-10-28 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! Dear troll, This is not an acceptable manner of replying to users who ask for help on this list. If you don't have anything constructive to say, then by all means don't. See the charter of this list, as posted by Greg Lehey, for details. The freebsd-questions mailing list is a place where anyone is allowed to ask for help of any sort, as long as it pertains to FreeBSD. If we as a group answer legitimate and well-written questions like the original in the same way that you did, the people asking them might be offended. Not by you, as a person, not by me or anyone else. By the ``FreeBSD people''. So do us, and all the FreeBSD users, a favor and spare us the irony. - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development Resources
In a message dated 10/28/04 2:49:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! Dear troll, I notice that you conveniently omitted the smiley, you uptight loser. Relax a bit and get off the sauce. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Development Resources In a message dated 10/28/04 2:49:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! Dear troll, I notice that you conveniently omitted the smiley, you uptight loser. Relax a bit and get off the sauce. Dear troll, The definition of a troll: A purposely stupid, inflammatory, or downright wrong article (closely related to flamebait). Its purpose is to get people mad and make them look stupid and gullible Source (your beloved AOL): http://www.aol.com/netfind/newsgroup/glossary.html Let's break down your response to see how you define as one. Listen pal.. Original message from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess that's just plain stupid. there's are reason.. No comment. this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! The original question was: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Which you didn't seem to answer. Finally, the original message was posted October 17th, your answer however was posted October 28th, after 5 positive posts and 11 days. So I believe when Mr. Keramidas saluted you with Dear troll he wasn't wrong at all. Look at the bright side, he said Dear, and your trolling actually works!! Have a nice day. Eihab E. Ibrahim ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
The definition of a troll: A purposely stupid, inflammatory, or downright wrong article (closely related to flamebait). Its purpose is to get people mad and make them look stupid and gullible Definition of a Moron: Someone with no sense of humor. :) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
The definition of a troll: A purposely stupid, inflammatory, or downright wrong article (closely related to flamebait). Its purpose is to get people mad and make them look stupid and gullible Definition of a Moron: Someone with no sense of humor. :) No, it is more like someone who wastes everyone's time with useless junk just to irritate people. Try doing some real work. jerry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
In a message dated 10/28/04 6:42:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Definition of a Moron: Someone with no sense of humor. :) No, it is more like someone who wastes everyone's time with useless junk just to irritate people. Try doing some real work. Coming from a guy who didn't know what sendmail was a few days ago, thats pretty darn scary. What real work are you engaged in Jerry? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troll (was: Development Resources)
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 07:09:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/28/04 6:42:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Definition of a Moron: Someone with no sense of humor. :) No, it is more like someone who wastes everyone's time with useless junk just to irritate people. Try doing some real work. Coming from a guy who didn't know what sendmail was a few days ago, thats pretty darn scary. What real work are you engaged in Jerry? Take it off-list. Violating the mailing list charter is grounds for being banned. Kris pgpUg7AnV3Z2A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Development Resources
On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 10:02, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2004-10-16 14:25, Spiral Eyed Girl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After looking at the FreeBSD website and looking at docs all over the place, I havent found what I'm looking for, so I decided to mail this list. I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Things like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to develop for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around gcc/make, but I don't know about system and 'net API calls that are specific to FreeBSD, and *NIX in general. Look at the bibliography section of the FreeBSD Handbook for interesting books. Out of the top of my head, you should try to get yourself a copy of at least the following: a.``The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. b.``The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. c.``UNIX Network Programming'' by Richard W. Stevens. d.``TCP/IP Illustrated'' by Richard W. Stevens, Volumes I II. These might amount to a large sum of money, so you might want to explore the manpages and online docs at www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html first experiment a bit with an installed FreeBSD system to see if you can find something interesting. Finally, a great source of knowledge about the way FreeBSD works is the source itself. I still can't believe all the stuff I've learned by reading parts of the source tree during the past 4-5 years, and I have *so* *much* more to learn... - Giorgos A good into to network stuff is Beej's Guide to Network programming http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~beej/guide/net/ and interprocess stuff by Beej http://analyser.oli.tudelft.nl/beej/mirror/ipc/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer - Bytecraft Systems Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development Resources
it was said: I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Things like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to develop for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around gcc/make, but I don't know about system and 'net API calls that are specific to FreeBSD, and *NIX in general. Hello, Welcome to FreeBSD! Probably you'll want to read _The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System_ by McKusick, et al. ISBN 0-201-70245-2. It came out two months ago. Another good book is _Porting Unix Software_ by Lehey ISBN 1-56592-126-7. It's from 1995 and out of print, but you can get it used from amazon.com for US$2.00 and well worth the read. For additional references, you may want to ask on the hackers@ list. HTH, Stheg ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Development Resources
On 2004-10-16 14:25, Spiral Eyed Girl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After looking at the FreeBSD website and looking at docs all over the place, I havent found what I'm looking for, so I decided to mail this list. I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Things like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to develop for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around gcc/make, but I don't know about system and 'net API calls that are specific to FreeBSD, and *NIX in general. Look at the bibliography section of the FreeBSD Handbook for interesting books. Out of the top of my head, you should try to get yourself a copy of at least the following: a. ``The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. b. ``The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. c. ``UNIX Network Programming'' by Richard W. Stevens. d. ``TCP/IP Illustrated'' by Richard W. Stevens, Volumes I II. These might amount to a large sum of money, so you might want to explore the manpages and online docs at www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html first experiment a bit with an installed FreeBSD system to see if you can find something interesting. Finally, a great source of knowledge about the way FreeBSD works is the source itself. I still can't believe all the stuff I've learned by reading parts of the source tree during the past 4-5 years, and I have *so* *much* more to learn... - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
