Fwd: Re: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx)

2006-01-03 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:25 pm, Gayn Winters wrote:
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Russell J. Wood
> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:54 PM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk#
> > xx)
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:15:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > On my screen, there were messages like the followings
> >
> > comeing up. I have to
> >
> > > reboot mutiple times to get it boot up normally. Does this
> >
> > mean I have to
> >
> > > replace the disk which is a relatively new disk (1-2
> >
> > years)? Any simple way to
> >
> > > fix it and to avoid the time consuming task?
> > >
> > >
> > > ad0: 39205MB  [79656/16/63] at ata0-master
> > > WDMA2 ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 3473535 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 9240703 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17367167 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17760383 status=59 error=40
> >
> > I suspect that you have bad sectors on your hard disk drive
> > (and many of
> > them). A good tool to use is Segate's Seatools
> > (http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html). Just
> > burn the Seatools Desktop edition to CDROM and boot from it.
> >
> > - Russell
>
> After you've checked for loose cables, you might want to take
> the drive out and check it in another system (using the
> Seagate or other such tools).  If indeed the problem is with
> DMA, the drive might be ok but the MB is flakey.  Perhaps the
> PC or MB manufacturer has diagnosics with which you can zero
> into the latter ugly possiblity.  In any case, get yourself a
> backup asap (at least of the user data so that you can recover
> from a fresh installation.)  Unless you are getting other
> types of errors, it is probably still possible to copy the
> drive with dd using bs=512b, and this would be your quickest
> fix of a hard drive problem. Run fsck on your new disk after
> the copy.
>

dd is generally not a good choice for copying disks (although it 
does sort of work). The new disk will appear unclean when copied 
from a live fs and may in fact have an odd instance of a file 
which has not yet been physically updated. 

And it just takes too long since you copy empty space as well as 
real data.

Instead slice, partition the new disk and create newfs on the new 
partitions.

And then pipe dump (using the snapshot option) through to restore 
for each fs on the disks.
I have (successfully) used this approach extensively for cloning 
systems.

Malcolm
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RE: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx)

2006-01-02 Thread Gayn Winters
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Russell J. Wood
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:54 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xx)
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:15:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > On my screen, there were messages like the followings 
> comeing up. I have to 
> > reboot mutiple times to get it boot up normally. Does this 
> mean I have to 
> > replace the disk which is a relatively new disk (1-2 
> years)? Any simple way to 
> > fix it and to avoid the time consuming task?
> > 
> > 
> > ad0: 39205MB  [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 3473535 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 9240703 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17367167 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17760383 status=59 error=40
> 
> I suspect that you have bad sectors on your hard disk drive 
> (and many of
> them). A good tool to use is Segate's Seatools
> (http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html). Just burn the
> Seatools Desktop edition to CDROM and boot from it.
> 
> - Russell

After you've checked for loose cables, you might want to take the drive
out and check it in another system (using the Seagate or other such
tools).  If indeed the problem is with DMA, the drive might be ok but
the MB is flakey.  Perhaps the PC or MB manufacturer has diagnosics with
which you can zero into the latter ugly possiblity.  In any case, get
yourself a backup asap (at least of the user data so that you can
recover from a fresh installation.)  Unless you are getting other types
of errors, it is probably still possible to copy the drive with dd using
bs=512b, and this would be your quickest fix of a hard drive problem.
Run fsck on your new disk after the copy.

Good luck,

-gayn

Bristol Systems Inc.
714/532-6776
www.bristolsystems.com 


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Re: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx)

2006-01-02 Thread Russell J. Wood
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:15:08PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On my screen, there were messages like the followings comeing up. I have to 
> reboot mutiple times to get it boot up normally. Does this mean I have to 
> replace the disk which is a relatively new disk (1-2 years)? Any simple way 
> to 
> fix it and to avoid the time consuming task?
> 
> 
> ad0: 39205MB  [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 3473535 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 9240703 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17367167 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17760383 status=59 error=40

I suspect that you have bad sectors on your hard disk drive (and many of
them). A good tool to use is Segate's Seatools
(http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html). Just burn the
Seatools Desktop edition to CDROM and boot from it.

- Russell
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Re: Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx)

2006-01-02 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Monday 02 January 2006 02:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On my screen, there were messages like the followings comeing up. I have to
> reboot mutiple times to get it boot up normally. Does this mean I have to
> replace the disk which is a relatively new disk (1-2 years)? Any simple way
> to fix it and to avoid the time consuming task?
>
>
> ad0: 39205MB  [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 3473535 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 9240703 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17367167 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17760383 status=59 error=40

Check that your cables are tight. You might even try swapping your drive 
cable. Other than that it looks like your drive is failing. You do have 
backups don't you?

Beech
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Disk error messages (ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx)

2006-01-02 Thread mtang
Hi there,

On my screen, there were messages like the followings comeing up. I have to 
reboot mutiple times to get it boot up normally. Does this mean I have to 
replace the disk which is a relatively new disk (1-2 years)? Any simple way to 
fix it and to avoid the time consuming task?


ad0: 39205MB  [79656/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 11272319 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 131199 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 3473535 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 9240703 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17367167 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 17760383 status=59 error=40


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